[gentoo-dev] New app-eselect category?

2009-05-26 Thread Ulrich Mueller
As of today, app-admin contains 179 packages. We could move the 27 eselect-* packages to a new app-eselect category (eselect itself would stay in app-admin). Opinions? Ulrich

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: better support for binary packages

2009-05-26 Thread Philipp Riegger
Hi Duncan, I don't see the connection between the email Fabio wrote and your answer. Do you want to say, that you agree that he's doing what i described and that it works the way i described it? I doubt it. If you really care, could you answer my first email and state there the problems you see

Re: [gentoo-dev] better support for binary packages

2009-05-26 Thread Kobboi
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 11:54 +0200, Philipp Riegger wrote: The current situation: Binary packages are (usually) stored in /usr/portage/packages/$category/$package-$version.tbz2. The package consists of the real binary package and the metadata (combined using xpak or whatever). No, the

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: sci-geosciences/osm2mp

2009-05-26 Thread Hanno Böck
osm2mp was a tool needed for conversion of openstreetmap maps into an intermediate format, which could be used for further conversion into garmin maps with mkgmap. Latest versions of mkgmap accept osm files as an input, osm2mp is not maintained and imho not of any use nowadays, so I'll remove

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC:sys-apps/portage @overlay atoms postfix support

2009-05-26 Thread lxnay
So, :: vs @ apart, is it something that is worth looking and implementing in future EAPIs? -- Fabio Erculiani signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

[gentoo-dev] Re: better support for binary packages

2009-05-26 Thread Duncan
Philipp Riegger li...@anderedomain.de posted 1243321504.9661.14.ca...@hspc30.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de, excerpted below, on Tue, 26 May 2009 09:05:03 +0200: I don't see the connection between the email Fabio wrote and your answer. Do you want to say, that you agree that he's doing what i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: better support for binary packages

2009-05-26 Thread lxnay
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Philipp Riegger li...@anderedomain.de wrote: Hi Duncan, And all this layer thing Fabio was talking about. I did not try it and I did not read the code, but I think it makes things much more complicated. See also the discussion about mixing package managers

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: better support for binary packages

2009-05-26 Thread Philipp Riegger
On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 11:27 +0200, lx...@sabayonlinux.org wrote: On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Philipp Riegger li...@anderedomain.de wrote: And all this layer thing Fabio was talking about. I did not try it and I did not read the code, but I think it makes things much more

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: better support for binary packages

2009-05-26 Thread Philipp Riegger
On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 08:48 +, Duncan wrote: Philipp Riegger li...@anderedomain.de posted 1243321504.9661.14.ca...@hspc30.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de, excerpted below, on Tue, 26 May 2009 09:05:03 +0200: I don't see the connection between the email Fabio wrote and your answer. Do

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC:sys-apps/portage @overlay atoms postfix support

2009-05-26 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 26 May 2009 10:13:51 +0200 (CEST) lx...@sabayonlinux.org wrote: So, :: vs @ apart, is it something that is worth looking and implementing in future EAPIs? Isn't it just a user issue, not one we want used anywhere where EAPI rules are in effect? -- Ciaran McCreesh signature.asc

[gentoo-dev] Re: better support for binary packages

2009-05-26 Thread Duncan
Philipp Riegger li...@anderedomain.de posted 1243335643.9661.46.ca...@hspc30.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de, excerpted below, on Tue, 26 May 2009 13:00:43 +0200: Bit it seems to be quite an uninteresting topic, since the people most affected by it (Gentoo developers) did not join the

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: net-analyzer/ns and net-analyzer/nam

2009-05-26 Thread Federico Ferri
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 # Federico Ferri mescali...@gentoo.org (26 May 2008) # Deprecated cause depending on unmaintained dev-tcltk/otcl. # Everything being moved to 'abandonware' overlay. # Possible replacement: net-misc/gns3 (sunrise overlay) # Going for removal in ~30

[gentoo-dev] Re: The fallacies of GLEP55

2009-05-26 Thread Steven J Long
Duncan wrote: Tobias Klausmann klaus...@gentoo.org posted I was under the impression that it's illegal to change/set the EAPI after using inherit. The short answer, based on my understanding of posts to this point, would be that it's illegal for Gentoo (in-tree, council decided), but not

[gentoo-dev] Re: The fallacies of GLEP55

2009-05-26 Thread Steven J Long
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sat, 16 May 2009 00:28:36 +0530 Arun Raghavan ford_pref...@gentoo.org wrote: As I've stated a long time ago, I'm for this solution. My understanding is that there are 2 objections to this: 3) It doesn't solve the problem. It doesn't allow things like version

[gentoo-dev] RFC: GLSA-2, a new DTD for GLSAs

2009-05-26 Thread Robert Buchholz
Hello, the Security Team would like to create a new DTD for our GLSAs. GLSAs are distributed via our web site and the tree. Their format is defined by a DTD. When the format was initially defined in 2004, some use cases were considered that never got implemented or used. Other use cases only

Re: [gentoo-dev] New app-eselect category?

2009-05-26 Thread Tiziano Müller
Am Dienstag, den 26.05.2009, 09:04 +0200 schrieb Ulrich Mueller: As of today, app-admin contains 179 packages. We could move the 27 eselect-* packages to a new app-eselect category (eselect itself would stay in app-admin). Opinions? Yes in general. Maybe think about what happens when the

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: GLSA-2, a new DTD for GLSAs

2009-05-26 Thread Pierre-Yves Rofes
On Tue, May 26, 2009 4:49 pm, Tiziano Müller wrote: Am Dienstag, den 26.05.2009, 16:19 +0200 schrieb Robert Buchholz: [...] (+) SLOT support. An implied attribute 'slot' to the 'vulnerable' and 'unaffected' tag will be introduced. This limits the scope of the range specifiers to

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: GLSA-2, a new DTD for GLSAs

2009-05-26 Thread Robert Buchholz
On Tuesday 26 May 2009, Tiziano Müller wrote: Am Dienstag, den 26.05.2009, 16:19 +0200 schrieb Robert Buchholz: I would like to announce the changes we want to introduce. If you have any feedback, please speak up. This can include feature requests. Maybe add a 'tag' attribute to the

Re: [gentoo-dev] New app-eselect category?

2009-05-26 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 26-05-2009 09:04:46 +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote: As of today, app-admin contains 179 packages. We could move the 27 eselect-* packages to a new app-eselect category (eselect itself would stay in app-admin). Opinions? I hate package moves, so is it really *really* necessary? -- Fabian

Re: [gentoo-dev] New app-eselect category?

2009-05-26 Thread Theo Chatzimichos
On Tuesday 26 May 2009 18:31:17 AllenJB wrote: Fabian Groffen wrote: On 26-05-2009 09:04:46 +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote: As of today, app-admin contains 179 packages. We could move the 27 eselect-* packages to a new app-eselect category (eselect itself would stay in app-admin).

Re: [gentoo-dev] New app-eselect category?

2009-05-26 Thread AllenJB
Fabian Groffen wrote: On 26-05-2009 09:04:46 +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote: As of today, app-admin contains 179 packages. We could move the 27 eselect-* packages to a new app-eselect category (eselect itself would stay in app-admin). Opinions? I hate package moves, so is it really *really*

Re: [gentoo-dev] New app-eselect category?

2009-05-26 Thread Philipp Riegger
Hello world! On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 16:24 +0200, Tiziano Müller wrote: Am Dienstag, den 26.05.2009, 09:04 +0200 schrieb Ulrich Mueller: As of today, app-admin contains 179 packages. We could move the 27 eselect-* packages to a new app-eselect category (eselect itself would stay in

Re: [gentoo-dev] New app-eselect category?

2009-05-26 Thread Federico Ferri
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Philipp Riegger wrote: Hello world! On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 16:24 +0200, Tiziano Müller wrote: Am Dienstag, den 26.05.2009, 09:04 +0200 schrieb Ulrich Mueller: As of today, app-admin contains 179 packages. We could move the 27 eselect-* packages

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: GLSA-2, a new DTD for GLSAs

2009-05-26 Thread Tiziano Müller
Am Dienstag, den 26.05.2009, 16:19 +0200 schrieb Robert Buchholz: Hello, the Security Team would like to create a new DTD for our GLSAs. GLSAs are distributed via our web site and the tree. Their format is defined by a DTD. When the format was initially defined in 2004, some use cases

Re: [gentoo-dev] New app-eselect category?

2009-05-26 Thread Federico Ferri
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 AllenJB wrote: Fabian Groffen wrote: On 26-05-2009 09:04:46 +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote: As of today, app-admin contains 179 packages. We could move the 27 eselect-* packages to a new app-eselect category (eselect itself would stay in app-admin).

Re: [gentoo-dev] New app-eselect category?

2009-05-26 Thread Ulrich Mueller
On Tue, 26 May 2009, Fabian Groffen wrote: We could move the 27 eselect-* packages to a new app-eselect category (eselect itself would stay in app-admin). I hate package moves, so is it really *really* necessary? Of course it is not necessary, only a matter of organisation (as most package

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: better support for binary packages

2009-05-26 Thread Ben de Groot
lx...@sabayonlinux.org wrote: On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Philipp Riegger li...@anderedomain.de wrote: See also the discussion about mixing package managers between Gentoo and Sabayon. I do not want these problems. incorrect. Give it a spin ;) Problems we have were *only* related to

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC:sys-apps/portage @overlay atoms postfix support

2009-05-26 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: On Tue, 26 May 2009 10:13:51 +0200 (CEST) lx...@sabayonlinux.org wrote: So, :: vs @ apart, is it something that is worth looking and implementing in future EAPIs? Isn't it just a user issue, not one we

Re: [gentoo-dev] New app-eselect category?

2009-05-26 Thread George Shapovalov
Tuesday, 26. May 2009, Federico Ferri Ви написали: seems like here two-level categories are a limitation. if three-level categories were available, I'd say app-admin-xselect. Argh, should we suffer the same issues over again? What about just dropping the two/three/etc tier requirement and just

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: better support for binary packages

2009-05-26 Thread lxnay
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote: lx...@sabayonlinux.org wrote: On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Philipp Riegger li...@anderedomain.de wrote: See also the discussion about mixing package managers between Gentoo and Sabayon. I do not want these problems.

Re: [gentoo-dev] New app-eselect category?

2009-05-26 Thread Philip Webb
090526 Ulrich Mueller wrote: We could move the 27 eselect-* packages to a new app-eselect category; eselect itself would stay in app-admin. I hate package moves, so is it really *really* necessary? Of course it is only a matter of organisation (as most package moves are). Since there's also

[gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for May 28

2009-05-26 Thread Tiziano Müller
This is your friendly reminder! Same bat time (typically the 2nd 4th Thursdays at 2000 UTC / 1600 EST), same bat channel (#gentoo-council @ irc.freenode.net) ! If you have something you'd wish for us to chat about, maybe even vote on, let us know! Simply reply to this e-mail for the whole Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] New app-eselect category?

2009-05-26 Thread Sérgio Almeida
Hello, I am the student doing the Universal Select Tool for this year's Geetoo's SoC. On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 16:35 +0200, Philipp Riegger wrote: How will that tool be called? Maybe uselect? Everything points out to that until now. =) The way it's done, current eselect modules can continue

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: sci-geosciences/osm2mp

2009-05-26 Thread Petteri Räty
Hanno Böck wrote: osm2mp was a tool needed for conversion of openstreetmap maps into an intermediate format, which could be used for further conversion into garmin maps with mkgmap. Latest versions of mkgmap accept osm files as an input, osm2mp is not maintained and imho not of any use

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: net-analyzer/ns and net-analyzer/nam

2009-05-26 Thread Petteri Räty
Federico Ferri wrote: # Federico Ferri mescali...@gentoo.org (26 May 2008) # Deprecated cause depending on unmaintained dev-tcltk/otcl. # Everything being moved to 'abandonware' overlay. # Possible replacement: net-misc/gns3 (sunrise overlay) # Going for removal in ~30 days if no one objects.

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC:sys-apps/portage @overlay atoms postfix support

2009-05-26 Thread Petteri Räty
lx...@sabayonlinux.org wrote: So, :: vs @ apart, is it something that is worth looking and implementing in future EAPIs? I don't see the main tree referring to other repositories any time soon so this is not a pressing issue. But as said earlier this makes sense for /etc/portage stuff so

Re: [gentoo-dev] New app-eselect category?

2009-05-26 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
2009/5/27 Sérgio Almeida meph...@gmail.com: this time (SoC starts in a few hours) the prototype is written in python, does everything eselect does and supports any scripting language for module's actions. Oh, it's extremely faster too. You have a working prototype right now? Awesome! Where's

Re: [gentoo-dev] Google SoC @ Gentoo - Universal Select Tool

2009-05-26 Thread Tiziano Müller
Am Montag, den 04.05.2009, 22:01 +0100 schrieb Sérgio Almeida: Gentoo Dev's, My name is Sérgio Almeida, I am Portuguese and I am a student for this year's Google SoC coding the Universal Select Tool project for Gentoo being Sébastien Fabbro (bicatali) my mentor. Abstract: Universal

Re: [gentoo-dev] New app-eselect category?

2009-05-26 Thread Sérgio Almeida
On Wed, 2009-05-27 at 01:19 +0530, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: 2009/5/27 Sérgio Almeida meph...@gmail.com: this time (SoC starts in a few hours) the prototype is written in python, does everything eselect does and supports any scripting language for module's actions. Oh, it's extremely faster

Re: [gentoo-dev] Google SoC @ Gentoo - Universal Select Tool

2009-05-26 Thread Sérgio Almeida
On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 22:04 +0200, Tiziano Müller wrote: Am Montag, den 04.05.2009, 22:01 +0100 schrieb Sérgio Almeida: Gentoo Dev's, My name is Sérgio Almeida, I am Portuguese and I am a student for this year's Google SoC coding the Universal Select Tool project for Gentoo being

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: better support for binary packages

2009-05-26 Thread Ben de Groot
For the record: Fabio (lxnay) and I had a chat on IRC and cleared some things up. He also reproduced the problem I had encountered with mixed portage/entropy usage, and concluded that it was a bug in entropy. I'm glad we got to a constructive point. So things turn out not to be as bad as I was

Re: [gentoo-dev] New app-eselect category?

2009-05-26 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 26/05/2009 22:43, Sérgio Almeida a écrit : Hello, There isn't yet. The code is still pretty ugly and I'm still refactoring to the new architecture before I can make it public (or even officially git it). I will post it on this mailing list as soon as experimentations are possible. Please

Re: [gentoo-dev] New app-eselect category?

2009-05-26 Thread Josh Saddler
AllenJB wrote: I'd favor tags over increasing the category levels, tho I'm not convinced either is necessary at the current time (tho tags might make searching easier, in some ways). Heck yes! Tags are a good idea. The idea's been raised on -dev a few times. I suppose they're not (yet)