Re: [gentoo-dev] 2009 Council Elections

2009-06-28 Thread Tiziano Müller
Am Freitag, den 26.06.2009, 07:15 -0600 schrieb Denis Dupeyron: On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 6:46 AM, Ben de Grootyng...@gentoo.org wrote: To appoint as proxy for a council meeting someone who has been booted from Gentoo is a clear lapse of judgement, and would in my eyes disqualify the involved

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2009 Council Elections

2009-06-28 Thread Zhang Le
On 11:41 Fri 26 Jun , Richard Freeman wrote: However, those who have questioned the wisdom of cirianm as a proxy do have a point. Technical knowledge alone is not the critiera of a council member. One needs to be able to build consensus - not that we need to be strangled by

[gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2009-06-28 Thread Krzysiek Pawlik
Following packages are looking for new maintainers: - app-laptop/omnibook - not much work, I don't have a laptop requiring this - kde-misc/kdmtheme - I hope it will go away with KDE 3.5.x - kde team? - sys-power/hibernate-script - 2 open bugs, rare releases -- Krzysiek Pawlik nelchael at

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2009-06-28 Thread Theo Chatzimichos
On Sunday 28 June 2009 14:50:05 Krzysiek Pawlik wrote: Following packages are looking for new maintainers: - app-laptop/omnibook - not much work, I don't have a laptop requiring this - kde-misc/kdmtheme - I hope it will go away with KDE 3.5.x - kde team? - sys-power/hibernate-script - 2

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Council meeting summary for meeting on June 11, 2009

2009-06-28 Thread Thomas Anderson
On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 11:34:48AM +0100, Steven J Long wrote: Thomas Anderson wrote: Steven J Long wrote: Denis Dupeyron wrote: This list is for technical discussions only. I look forward to the day when that actually happens, and we are not regaled with countless emails about

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2009-06-28 Thread Markos Chandras
Following packages are looking for new maintainers: - app-laptop/omnibook - not much work, I don't have a laptop requiring I am using it for my laptop so I will take it Thanks -- Markos Chandras (hwoarang) Gentoo Linux Developer [KDE/Qt/Sunrise/Sound] Web: http://hwoarang.silverarrow.org

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2009 Council Elections

2009-06-28 Thread Roy Bamford
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2009.06.28 10:00, Tiziano Müller wrote: Am Freitag, den 26.06.2009, 07:15 -0600 schrieb Denis Dupeyron: On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 6:46 AM, Ben de Grootyng...@gentoo.org wrote: To appoint as proxy for a council meeting someone who has been

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2009 Council Elections

2009-06-28 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Roy Bamfordneddyseag...@gentoo.org wrote: Oh. Don't talk about 'common sense' GLEP39 does not mention it, so it doesn't count ... and its much rarer than you may think. I would like to make a stand for more usage of common sense and wisdom in interpretation of

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2009 Council Elections

2009-06-28 Thread Tiziano Müller
Am Sonntag, den 28.06.2009, 16:40 +0100 schrieb Roy Bamford: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2009.06.28 10:00, Tiziano Müller wrote: Am Freitag, den 26.06.2009, 07:15 -0600 schrieb Denis Dupeyron: On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 6:46 AM, Ben de Grootyng...@gentoo.org wrote:

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2009 Council Elections

2009-06-28 Thread Tiziano Müller
Am Sonntag, den 28.06.2009, 21:35 +0530 schrieb Nirbheek Chauhan: On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Roy Bamfordneddyseag...@gentoo.org wrote: Oh. Don't talk about 'common sense' GLEP39 does not mention it, so it doesn't count ... and its much rarer than you may think. I would like to make

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2009 Council Elections

2009-06-28 Thread George Prowse
Wulf C. Krueger wrote: I think it would be in the best interest of both Exherbo and Gentoo to elect gentoofan23, betelgeuse, dev-zero, peper, calchan and dertobi123 to the Gentoo Council. Why is Exherbo's interests anything to do with Gentoo's? Does this happen with Sabayon or SystemRescueCd

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2009 Council Elections

2009-06-28 Thread George Prowse
Alistair Bush wrote: As our closest relative ( of any distro ) You mean apart from all the other Gentoo based distros?

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2009 Council Elections

2009-06-28 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:31:43 +0100 George Prowse george.pro...@gmail.com wrote: This strengthening bridge of understanding can be seen in dev- zero's move to appoint ciaranm as his proxy for today's council meeting. If a doctor loses his right to practice medicine you dont allow him

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2009 Council Elections

2009-06-28 Thread George Prowse
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:31:43 +0100 George Prowse george.pro...@gmail.com wrote: This strengthening bridge of understanding can be seen in dev- zero's move to appoint ciaranm as his proxy for today's council meeting. If a doctor loses his right to practice medicine

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2009 Council Elections

2009-06-28 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:46:27 +0100 George Prowse george.pro...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sure getting personal about subjects on a Gentoo mailing list will endear yourself to everyone. Uh, isn't that exactly what you're doing? Thinking logically for a second, if you really cared about Gentoo you

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2009 Council Elections

2009-06-28 Thread George Prowse
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:46:27 +0100 George Prowse george.pro...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sure getting personal about subjects on a Gentoo mailing list will endear yourself to everyone. Uh, isn't that exactly what you're doing? Nope, I never mentioned anything personal

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2009 Council Elections

2009-06-28 Thread Tiziano Müller
Am Sonntag, den 28.06.2009, 20:46 +0100 schrieb George Prowse: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:31:43 +0100 George Prowse george.pro...@gmail.com wrote: This strengthening bridge of understanding can be seen in dev- zero's move to appoint ciaranm as his proxy for today's

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2009 Council Elections

2009-06-28 Thread Ferris McCormick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:40:00 +0100 Roy Bamford neddyseag...@gentoo.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2009.06.28 10:00, Tiziano Müller wrote: Am Freitag, den 26.06.2009, 07:15 -0600 schrieb Denis Dupeyron: On Fri,

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2009 Council Elections

2009-06-28 Thread Roy Bamford
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2009.06.28 23:14, Ferris McCormick wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:40:00 +0100 Roy Bamford neddyseag...@gentoo.org wrote: [snip] What if an entire meeting and therefore any votes were staffed

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2009 Council Elections

2009-06-28 Thread Dale
Roy Bamford wrote: You agree that common sense can't be used and admit that a corner case exists that would in effect have the trustees pointing out to the council that they had made an error of judgement and need to reverse a decision that the last meeting made. I would prefer never to have

[gentoo-dev] Re: 2009 Council Elections

2009-06-28 Thread Duncan
Ferris McCormick fmc...@gentoo.org posted 20090628221421.1c9f8...@anaconda.krait.us, excerpted below, on Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:14:21 +: Its my opinion that the concept of proxies in council meetings is fatally flawed. 1. The brief (if any) that the proxy is given by the council member

[gentoo-dev] Re: 2009 Council Elections

2009-06-28 Thread Duncan
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com posted 4a47f8e3.8070...@gmail.com, excerpted below, on Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:12:35 -0500: As a long time Gentoo user, I have to ask. Why is that EVERYONE on the council must be there or have someone there to represent them? Would Gentoo come to a end if one person or

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2009-06-28 23h59 UTC

2009-06-28 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2009-06-28 23h59 UTC. Removals: dev-perl/Module-CoreList2009-06-23 08:40:29 tove Additions: dev-perl/B-Hooks-Parser 2009-06-23 07:33:52

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: 2009 Council Elections

2009-06-28 Thread Dale
Duncan wrote: Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com posted 4a47f8e3.8070...@gmail.com, excerpted below, on Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:12:35 -0500: As a long time Gentoo user, I have to ask. Why is that EVERYONE on the council must be there or have someone there to represent them? Would Gentoo come to a

[gentoo-dev] Gentoo stats server/client @ 2009-06-29

2009-06-28 Thread Sebastian Pipping
I more or less took a week off GSoC for LinuxTag. It gave me the chance to further spread the ideas behind Gentoo (and also PackageMap) a bit. I think that was worth not producing any code during the time. There is lots of things to do, I'm back at it. Sebastian

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2009 Council Elections

2009-06-28 Thread Andrew D Kirch
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 12:04:14 +0530 Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org wrote: The spirit and the letter of the rules are clear: the electorate can vote in whoever they want, and council members can appoint whoever they want so long as no-one has multiple votes at any

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2009 Council Elections

2009-06-28 Thread Andrew D Kirch
Benny Pedersen wrote: On Fri, June 26, 2009 03:13, Andrew D Kirch wrote: Please be quiet. why ?, maillists is imho made to be used in non silent mode else one could aswell argue to close it down Mailing lists he's been booted from twice for astroturfing and abuse. Andrew

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2009 Council Elections

2009-06-28 Thread Andrew D Kirch
Petteri Räty wrote: Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 1:27 AM, Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 01:20:09 +0530 Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org wrote: Allowing him to proxy in a council meeting is both disallowed

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2009 Council Elections

2009-06-28 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
ndrew D Kirch wrote: Petteri Räty wrote: Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: I move that we elect George W Bush and Ciaran McCreesh Council Members For Life. Are these people serious? Andrew Andrew, I've chosen to reply to this particular mail, but this applies to your other mails in this

[gentoo-dev] 2009 Council Elections - 44 hours left to vote

2009-06-28 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
Hello. This is a remainder that the voting for this Council's election will end at 23:59:59 UTC June 30rd - which means in less than 44 hours. At the moment, we have 101 casted votes which means ~ 41% of attendance. If you haven't voted yet, please hurry to your booth located at woodpecker. You

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo IRC _is_ better than ML ;)

2009-06-28 Thread Alec Warner
On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 3:26 AM, Steven J Longsl...@rathaus.eclipse.co.uk wrote: Duncan wrote: Wow, joke or not, this is the kind of thing that makes me glad I don't do IRC. Just to answer this quickly, as I think you're querying my earlier assertion that gentoo IRC is a lot of fun? The

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo stats server/client @ 2009-06-29

2009-06-28 Thread Luca Barbato
Sebastian Pipping wrote: I more or less took a week off GSoC for LinuxTag. It gave me the chance to further spread the ideas behind Gentoo (and also PackageMap) a bit. I think that was worth not producing any code during the time. I agree wholeheartedly, you did a lot in the past days even

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Council meeting summary for meeting on June 11, 2009

2009-06-28 Thread Alec Warner
Dear god, if you want argue to death do it in private. -A On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 5:04 AM, Thomas Andersongentoofa...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 11:34:48AM +0100, Steven J Long wrote: Thomas Anderson wrote: Steven J Long wrote: Denis Dupeyron wrote: This list is for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Council meeting summary for meeting on June 11, 2009

2009-06-28 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Alec Warneranta...@gentoo.org wrote: Dear god, if you want argue to death do it in private. But you see, the point is to argue in *public* so that you can show *everyone* who can last the longest in a shouting marathon! -- ~Nirbheek Chauhan

[gentoo-portage-dev] Portage API questions

2009-06-28 Thread Sebastian Pipping
Hello! As part of my Gentoo Google Summer of Code activities I am making use of the Portage Python API. As some of you can tell much quicker than me - if the API can answer question X, and - where to find functionality for task Y I come here to ask for precise pointers related to