Re: [gentoo-dev] Change or revert the "30 days maintainer timeout" stabilization policy

2014-04-02 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mié, 02-04-2014 a las 14:22 -0400, Mike Gilbert escribió: > On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > > The "30 days maintainer time out" stabilization policy isn't working > > when package has multiple SLOTs, because > > the bugs are filed for only latest SLOT, where as some pa

Re: [gentoo-dev] Change or revert the "30 days maintainer timeout" stabilization policy

2014-04-02 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 02/04/14 03:28 PM, hasufell wrote: > I'm just not sure what any of the randomly filed stablereqs are > for. It doesn't help anyone, unless the guy who filed it actually > uses it or if it is a blocker for another stabilization. > > It's annoying

Re: [gentoo-dev] Change or revert the "30 days maintainer timeout" stabilization policy

2014-04-02 Thread Patrick Lauer
On 04/03/2014 12:52 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > The "30 days maintainer time out" stabilization policy isn't working > when package has multiple SLOTs, because > the bugs are filed for only latest SLOT, where as some packages require > stabilization in sync at both SLOTs Question: Why is the main

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in sys-devel/llvm: llvm-3.4.ebuild llvm-9999.ebuild ChangeLog

2014-04-02 Thread hasufell
Maybe it is just me, but I take the chance and responsibility. This commit caused /usr/bin/clang being 32bit on my amd64 system. I compiled it 3 times. I have reverted the commit for the live ebuild, reverted it for 3.4-r1 and hardmasked 3.4 to ensure that people who unmasked 3.4 on stable arch w

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stable masks on multilib packages

2014-04-02 Thread Matt Turner
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:25 AM, Ben de Groot wrote: > I'm strongly considering reverting these changes in the packages I > maintain. I'm tired of having to deal time and again with multilib > breakage. > > Either that, or someone else can take over primary maintainership. I'd be happy for you to

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item draft for >=sys-fs/udev-209 upgrade

2014-04-02 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 02/04/14 23:15, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote: > On 02/24/2014 12:32 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > > If it's okay, I'd want to post this fast, before adding KEYWORDS to > > sys-fs/udev-209's ebuild > > > Should means required now? Man if I only knew that last week... > Sorry?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make udev optional in net-wireless/bluez?

2014-04-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote: > Honestly I'd rather see this split up into libbluetooth and bluez than > make it possible to build a nearly entirely crippled bluez with no udev > support. I think the right approach really depends on usefulness. Splitting package

Re: [gentoo-dev] Change or revert the "30 days maintainer timeout" stabilization policy

2014-04-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Alex Xu wrote: > On 02/04/14 04:02 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: >> Another option might be to have a tag in metadata.xml that flags >> packages as never-stable > > Arguments have been made that such packages do not belong in g-x86. > Why not? In general I think package

Re: [gentoo-dev] New virtuals for libudev and libgudev

2014-04-02 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 02/04/14 23:07, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote: > On 04/02/2014 02:00 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > > > On 02/04/14 05:02, Matt Turner wrote: > >> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Tom Wijsman wrote: > >>> Projects like the Council, ComRel and QA are there to protect Gentoo; > >>> and yes, people

Re: [gentoo-dev] New virtuals for libudev and libgudev

2014-04-02 Thread Rich Freeman
(picking this email to reply to, but it isn't mean to single anybody out) On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 4:07 PM, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote: > Wow, now that I can see it your way I agree, I'm a horrible person. > I'll stick to randomly changing the tree as I see fit with no discussion > since forced

Re: [gentoo-dev] Change or revert the "30 days maintainer timeout" stabilization policy

2014-04-02 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Alex Xu: > On 02/04/14 04:02 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: >> Another option might be to have a tag in metadata.xml that flags >> packages as never-stable > > Arguments have been made that such packages do not belong in > g-x86. > I did understand it t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make udev optional in net-wireless/bluez?

2014-04-02 Thread Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/10/2014 07:29 PM, Gilles Dartiguelongue wrote: > Picking a random mail in the thread. > > Making udev dependency always on is a deliberate choice here, as noted > by Alexandre, the library will be most likely useless without it and we > simply d

Re: [gentoo-dev] Change or revert the "30 days maintainer timeout" stabilization policy

2014-04-02 Thread Alex Xu
On 02/04/14 04:02 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > Another option might be to have a tag in metadata.xml that flags > packages as never-stable Arguments have been made that such packages do not belong in g-x86. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

[gentoo-dev] Protecting config files of webapps

2014-04-02 Thread Thomas Kahle
Hi, www-apps/tt-rss is configured through a file config.php sitting in its install directory. At the moment the file is overwritten when upgrading with webapp-config. Who is responsible for config-protecting this file? a) the ebuild should install an env file (www-apps/otrs does this) b) the us

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item draft for >=sys-fs/udev-209 upgrade

2014-04-02 Thread Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/24/2014 12:32 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > If it's okay, I'd want to post this fast, before adding KEYWORDS to > sys-fs/udev-209's ebuild > > Should means required now? Man if I only knew that last week... - -Zero -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-

Re: [gentoo-dev] Change or revert the "30 days maintainer timeout" stabilization policy

2014-04-02 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Ok, noted that other people like to have those reminders. Rich Freeman: > Another option might be to have a tag in metadata.xml that flags > packages as never-stable or indicating that stabilization requires > coordination, which might help with

Re: [gentoo-dev] New virtuals for libudev and libgudev

2014-04-02 Thread Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/02/2014 02:00 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > > On 02/04/14 05:02, Matt Turner wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Tom Wijsman wrote: >>> Projects like the Council, ComRel and QA are there to protect Gentoo; >>> and yes, people are (or shoul

Re: [gentoo-dev] Change or revert the "30 days maintainer timeout" stabilization policy

2014-04-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On the packages I maintain, I tend to use the latest unstable version > of the software. Stabilizing them rarely crosses my mind. > > I rather like the semi-automated reminders. They come in handy for my > own packages, as well as the large, un

Re: [gentoo-dev] New virtuals for libudev and libgudev

2014-04-02 Thread Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/01/2014 02:41 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > > On 01/04/14 21:33, Tom Wijsman wrote: >> Okay, but this isn't what happened yet; because your plan was to send >> out a mail after stabilization for everyone to adapt the reverse >> dependencies, and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Change or revert the "30 days maintainer timeout" stabilization policy

2014-04-02 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2014-04-02, o godz. 19:28:30 hasufell napisał(a): > I'm just not sure what any of the randomly filed stablereqs are for. > It doesn't help anyone, unless the guy who filed it actually uses it > or if it is a blocker for another stabilization. > > It's annoying me for some time now. I expect

Re: [gentoo-dev] New virtuals for libudev and libgudev

2014-04-02 Thread Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/01/2014 11:55 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > > On 01/04/14 18:28, Tom Wijsman wrote: >> On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 12:23:43 + >> hasufell wrote: >> >>> And this is going to get worse if people don't trust them. Currently >>> it looks more like a loo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Change or revert the "30 days maintainer timeout" stabilization policy

2014-04-02 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 3:28 PM, hasufell wrote: > I'm just not sure what any of the randomly filed stablereqs are for. > It doesn't help anyone, unless the guy who filed it actually uses it > or if it is a blocker for another stabilization. > > It's annoying me for some time now. I expect maintain

Re: [gentoo-dev] Change or revert the "30 days maintainer timeout" stabilization policy

2014-04-02 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 I'm just not sure what any of the randomly filed stablereqs are for. It doesn't help anyone, unless the guy who filed it actually uses it or if it is a blocker for another stabilization. It's annoying me for some time now. I expect maintainers to ke

Re: [gentoo-dev] Change or revert the "30 days maintainer timeout" stabilization policy

2014-04-02 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 02/04/14 21:22, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: >> The "30 days maintainer time out" stabilization policy isn't working >> when package has multiple SLOTs, because >> the bugs are filed for only latest SLOT, where as some packages require >> stabil

Re: [gentoo-dev] Change or revert the "30 days maintainer timeout" stabilization policy

2014-04-02 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > The "30 days maintainer time out" stabilization policy isn't working > when package has multiple SLOTs, because > the bugs are filed for only latest SLOT, where as some packages require > stabilization in sync at both SLOTs > > Option 1: >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stable masks on multilib packages

2014-04-02 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 1 Apr 2014 20:58:30 -0400 Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Patrick Lauer > wrote: > > Now let's just continue to ignore the existing multilib-portage > > work so we can claim it's irrelevant, while shifting the conditions > > for accepting it whenever it is convenient

[gentoo-dev] Change or revert the "30 days maintainer timeout" stabilization policy

2014-04-02 Thread Samuli Suominen
The "30 days maintainer time out" stabilization policy isn't working when package has multiple SLOTs, because the bugs are filed for only latest SLOT, where as some packages require stabilization in sync at both SLOTs Option 1: Either revert the whole policy, and never CC arches on unanswered bug

Re: [gentoo-dev] Solving OpenCL /dev/dri/card* sandbox issues w/ ImageMagick

2014-04-02 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Samuli Suominen schrieb: > You are right > I believe this started after a major mesa version bump, so I'd start > looking for the culprit > in Mesa's OpenCL code, but I have no idea howto go futher with the > debugging... yet The problem is finding a general way for OpenCL to force it to run on th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Solving OpenCL /dev/dri/card* sandbox issues w/ ImageMagick

2014-04-02 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 02/04/14 16:01, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Wed 02 Apr 2014 13:01:25 Samuli Suominen wrote: >> Problem 1: >> >> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=472766#c21 >> >> I'm not sure if wildcards are supported by /etc/sandbox.d/ files > they are not. however, path matching is based on prefixes,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stable masks on multilib packages

2014-04-02 Thread Alexandre Rostovtsev
On Wed, 2014-04-02 at 17:25 +0800, Ben de Groot wrote: > I'm strongly considering reverting these changes in the packages I > maintain. I'm tired of having to deal time and again with multilib > breakage. > > Either that, or someone else can take over primary maintainership. Ben, if you are uncom

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stable masks on multilib packages

2014-04-02 Thread Alexandre Rostovtsev
On Wed, 2014-04-02 at 17:14 +0800, Ben de Groot wrote: > On 1 April 2014 21:58, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: > > On Tue, 2014-04-01 at 13:13 +0800, Ben de Groot wrote: > >> On 1 April 2014 06:16, Michał Górny wrote: > >> > Hello, all. > >> > > >> > The late multilib ppc issues made me re-check our

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stable masks on multilib packages

2014-04-02 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wed 02 Apr 2014 17:14:02 Ben de Groot wrote: > On 1 April 2014 21:58, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: > > On Tue, 2014-04-01 at 13:13 +0800, Ben de Groot wrote: > >> On 1 April 2014 06:16, Michał Górny wrote: > >> > Hello, all. > >> > > >> > The late multilib ppc issues made me re-check our stabl

Re: [gentoo-dev] Solving OpenCL /dev/dri/card* sandbox issues w/ ImageMagick

2014-04-02 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wed 02 Apr 2014 13:01:25 Samuli Suominen wrote: > Problem 1: > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=472766#c21 > > I'm not sure if wildcards are supported by /etc/sandbox.d/ files they are not. however, path matching is based on prefixes, so there's always an implicit glob at the end.

Re: [gentoo-dev] New virtuals for libudev and libgudev

2014-04-02 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 02/04/14 13:45, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 2. April 2014, 10:29:28 schrieb Samuli Suominen: >> On 02/04/14 11:28, Tom Wijsman wrote: >>> On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 09:00:19 +0300 >>> >>> Samuli Suominen wrote: On 02/04/14 05:02, Matt Turner wrote: > You don't seem to understand

Re: [gentoo-dev] New virtuals for libudev and libgudev

2014-04-02 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Mittwoch, 2. April 2014, 10:29:28 schrieb Samuli Suominen: > On 02/04/14 11:28, Tom Wijsman wrote: > > On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 09:00:19 +0300 > > > > Samuli Suominen wrote: > >> On 02/04/14 05:02, Matt Turner wrote: > >>> You don't seem to understand what Samuli is saying. QA is being used > >>> a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: sandbox access violations while running matlab binary installer

2014-04-02 Thread Kfir Lavi
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 5:58 AM, Jonathan Callen wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > On 04/01/2014 10:03 AM, Kfir Lavi wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 11:53 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > > > >> Alexandre Rostovtsev posted on Mon, 31 Mar 2014 14:54:09 -040

Re: [gentoo-dev] New virtuals for libudev and libgudev

2014-04-02 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 11:29:28 +0300 Samuli Suominen wrote: > On 02/04/14 11:28, Tom Wijsman wrote: > > On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 09:00:19 +0300 > > Samuli Suominen wrote: > > > >> On 02/04/14 05:02, Matt Turner wrote: > >>> You don't seem to understand what Samuli is saying. QA is being > >>> used as a

[gentoo-dev] Solving OpenCL /dev/dri/card* sandbox issues w/ ImageMagick

2014-04-02 Thread Samuli Suominen
Problem 1: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=472766#c21 I'm not sure if wildcards are supported by /etc/sandbox.d/ files Problem 2: I don't know if this bug is ImageMagick+OpenCL _or_ OpenCL alone specific since emacs is having similar issues? Assistance required from emacs maintainer to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stable masks on multilib packages

2014-04-02 Thread Ben de Groot
On 2 April 2014 07:38, Patrick Lauer wrote: > On 04/01/2014 01:13 PM, Ben de Groot wrote: >> On 1 April 2014 06:16, Michał Górny wrote: >>> Hello, all. >>> >>> The late multilib ppc issues made me re-check our stable masks on >>> abi_x86_* flags and, honestly, I'm not sure if we're doing things >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stable masks on multilib packages

2014-04-02 Thread Ben de Groot
On 1 April 2014 21:58, Alexandre Rostovtsev wrote: > On Tue, 2014-04-01 at 13:13 +0800, Ben de Groot wrote: >> On 1 April 2014 06:16, Michał Górny wrote: >> > Hello, all. >> > >> > The late multilib ppc issues made me re-check our stable masks on >> > abi_x86_* flags and, honestly, I'm not sure i

Re: [gentoo-dev] New virtuals for libudev and libgudev

2014-04-02 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 02/04/14 11:28, Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 09:00:19 +0300 > Samuli Suominen wrote: > >> On 02/04/14 05:02, Matt Turner wrote: >>> You don't seem to understand what Samuli is saying. QA is being used >>> as an offensive weapon. It's a stick to bludgeon others with. >> Exactly. Any

Re: [gentoo-dev] New virtuals for libudev and libgudev

2014-04-02 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Wed, 02 Apr 2014 09:00:19 +0300 Samuli Suominen wrote: > > On 02/04/14 05:02, Matt Turner wrote: > > You don't seem to understand what Samuli is saying. QA is being used > > as an offensive weapon. It's a stick to bludgeon others with. > > Exactly. Anyone remembers what happened the last tim

Re: [gentoo-dev] New virtuals for libudev and libgudev

2014-04-02 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Tue, 1 Apr 2014 19:02:08 -0700 Matt Turner wrote: > On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Tom Wijsman wrote: > You don't seem to understand what Samuli is saying. QA is being used > as an offensive weapon. It's a stick to bludgeon others with. Yes, I understood; but I don't see how that describes

[OT] Re: [gentoo-dev] New virtuals for libudev and libgudev

2014-04-02 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Tue, 1 Apr 2014 19:47:07 -0700 Matt Turner wrote: > On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 12:18 PM, hasufell wrote: > > Tom... I am not sure if you know that, but your posts are difficult > > to read. You split up posts horribly and I am often unable to > > follow what you mean... at all. > > > > If I am th