Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Splitting developer-oriented and expert user mailing lists

2017-12-03 Thread Alec Warner
On Sun, Dec 3, 2017 at 4:26 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > W dniu nie, 03.12.2017 o godzinie 13∶52 -0500, użytkownik Alec Warner > napisał: > > On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 6:18 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > > > > Hello, everyone. > > > > > > This is something th

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] [RFC] Splitting developer-oriented and expert user mailing lists

2017-12-04 Thread Alec Warner
On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 1:51 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 13:15:32 + > "M. J. Everitt" wrote: > > > On 04/12/17 00:37, Matt Turner wrote: > > > A user requested I forward this information to the mailing list: > > > > > > http://www.hbs.edu/faculty/Publication%20Files

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] [RFC] Splitting developer-oriented and expert user mailing lists

2017-12-04 Thread Alec Warner
On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 2:37 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 14:17:00 -0500 > Alec Warner wrote: > > > > Clearly if Gentoo could be successful if millions of people were > > killed; we would not choose to kill millions of people. > > Clearly

Re: [gentoo-dev] AMD64 Arch Testers needed urgently

2017-12-14 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 3:34 PM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > On 12/14/2017 01:01 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > In the beginning the system would be opt-in. Then once we have > > confidence that it is working well the flag could potentially be made > > opt-out. > > The only place I imagine this

[gentoo-dev] Deleting old news items

2018-01-02 Thread Alec Warner
Problem: New stages have numerous news items listed that are likely not relevant, but are shown due to limitations in the filtering in NEWS items. E.g. on a recent stage3: nspawntest / # eselect news list News items: [1] N 2013-09-27 Separate /usr on Linux requires initramfs [2] N 2014

Re: [gentoo-dev] Deleting old news items

2018-01-03 Thread Alec Warner
On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 6:07 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > >>>>> On Tue, 2 Jan 2018, Alec Warner wrote: > > > Problem: > > New stages have numerous news items listed that are likely not > > relevant, but are shown due to limitations in the filtering in

Re: [gentoo-dev] Deleting old news items

2018-01-04 Thread Alec Warner
cepted and implemented, we can go back and bump the existing news items to format 2.1 and add the new mandatory header. Old news implementations should ignore the "Expires" header (as they ignore any unspecified header.) On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 10:16 AM, Alec Warner wrote: > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Deleting old news items

2018-01-04 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 8:20 PM, Alec Warner wrote: > The attached patch proposes a new news item format (2.1). > > In format 2.1, the Expires: header is mandatory. > > PMs can detect whether a given news item is "expired" by comparing the > current date in UTC to the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Deleting old news items

2018-01-05 Thread Alec Warner
On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 5:08 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > >>>>> On Thu, 4 Jan 2018, Alec Warner wrote: > > > Brief amendment. In the case where the PM cannot parse the expires > header; it > > should assume the item is not expired and display it (e.g. it should

Re: [gentoo-dev] Deleting old news items

2018-01-05 Thread Alec Warner
On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 5:15 AM, wrote: > January 5, 2018 3:58 AM, "Alec Warner" wrote: > > ... snip ... > > + compatability with GLEP 45 [#glep-45]_. Translations should use the > date of > > + the original news item. An item is expired if the current date

Re: [gentoo-dev] Deleting old news items

2018-01-05 Thread Alec Warner
Latest version. I still want to discuss whether Expires is Mandatory or Optional and how that actually ends up being used. -A On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 9:01 AM, Alec Warner wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 5:15 AM, wrote: > >> January 5, 2018 3:58 AM, "Alec Warner

Re: [gentoo-dev] Deleting old news items

2018-01-05 Thread Alec Warner
On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 4:00 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > W dniu czw, 04.01.2018 o godzinie 20∶20 -0500, użytkownik Alec Warner > napisał: > > The attached patch proposes a new news item format (2.1). > > > > In format 2.1, the Expires: header is mandatory. > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Deleting old news items

2018-01-05 Thread Alec Warner
On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 5:09 PM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > On 01/05/2018 10:28 PM, Aaron W. Swenson wrote: > > On 2018-01-05 15:16, William Hubbs wrote: > >> If we have a default expiration, it should be one year after the date > >> posted to go along with our current policy of not supporting

Re: [gentoo-dev] Deleting old news items

2018-01-05 Thread Alec Warner
On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 6:55 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > W dniu pią, 05.01.2018 o godzinie 23∶09 +0100, użytkownik Kristian > Fiskerstrand napisał: > > On 01/05/2018 10:28 PM, Aaron W. Swenson wrote: > > > On 2018-01-05 15:16, William Hubbs wrote: > > > > If we have a default expiration, it should b

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Deleting old news items

2018-01-06 Thread Alec Warner
On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 11:25 AM, Ciaran McCreesh < ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com> wrote: > On Sat, 6 Jan 2018 08:18:19 -0500 > kuzetsa wrote: > > On 01/06/2018 05:05 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > >> On Sat, 6 Jan 2018, Duncan wrote: > > >> $ equery b news.eselect > > >> app-admin/eselect-1.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Deleting old news items

2018-01-06 Thread Alec Warner
On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 2:51 PM, Anders Thomson wrote: > > > As a non-dev... > > > >In fact, it is the PM that would do the filtering, before filling the > >list of unread news items in... > > How come news' transport is tied to the pm / package tree at all? It would > seem more natural to fetch n

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] profiles.desc: Explicitly indicate maintainers for each profile

2018-01-09 Thread Alec Warner
On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 9:43 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > Add @MAINTAINER comments before each profile set indicating > the effective maintainer for the following set of profiles. While most > of those entries may seem obvious at first, I expect that some > of the sub-profiles will eventually 'change

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] profiles.desc: Explicitly indicate maintainers for each profile

2018-01-09 Thread Alec Warner
On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 10:11 AM, Alec Warner wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 9:43 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > >> Add @MAINTAINER comments before each profile set indicating >> the effective maintainer for the following set of profiles. While most >> of those entries m

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list

2018-01-09 Thread Alec Warner
On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 5:20 PM, Francesco Riosa wrote: > > 2018-01-09 22:20 GMT+01:00 Andreas K. Huettel : > >> [...] > > > >> * Whitelisting requires that one developer vouches for you. We intend this >> to be as unbureaucratic as possible. >> > > May I ask to some random developer to vouche f

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list

2018-01-10 Thread Alec Warner
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 2:06 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > W dniu śro, 10.01.2018 o godzinie 09∶11 -0800, użytkownik Matt Turner > napisał: > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 1:55 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > > > W dniu wto, 09.01.2018 o godzinie 17∶08 -0800, użytkownik Matt Turner > > > napisał: > > > > On T

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming posting restrictions on the gentoo-dev mailing list

2018-01-10 Thread Alec Warner
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 3:48 PM, M. J. Everitt wrote: > On 10/01/18 19:31, Alec Warner wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 2:06 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > >> W dniu śro, 10.01.2018 o godzinie 09∶11 -0800, użytkownik Matt Turner >> napisał: >> > On Wed, Jan

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: ${PYTHON_COMPAT_ADD} in addition to ${PYTHON_COMPAT_OVERRIDE}

2018-01-15 Thread Alec Warner
On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 7:05 PM, Francesco Riosa wrote: > > > On 15/01/2018 18:07, Mike Gilbert wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 10:27 AM, Francesco Riosa > wrote: > >> In late 2015 ${PYTHON_COMPAT_OVERRIDE} has been standardized and added > >> to all python eclasses, it's useful for developer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Managing updates on many identical Gentoo systems

2018-01-18 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 6:46 AM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm trying to design an update system for many identical Gentoo systems. > Using a binhost is obvious, but there are still problems with this > approach. > > Unless there's some magic I don't know about (and this is why

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Managing updates on many identical Gentoo systems

2018-01-19 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 5:13 PM, Bill Kenworthy wrote: > On 18/01/18 23:36, Duncan wrote: > > Anthony G. Basile posted on Thu, 18 Jan 2018 06:46:53 -0500 as excerpted: > > > >> I'm trying to design an update system for many identical Gentoo systems. > >> Using a binhost is obvious, but there are

Re: [gentoo-dev] Merge 7 Fedora wallpapers packages to single one with slots?

2018-01-27 Thread Alec Warner
On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 11:32 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 01/27/2018 11:09 AM, Sebastian Pipping wrote: > > Hi! > > > > > > I noticed that we have 7 packages on Fedora wallpapers with names that > > only explain themselves to Fedora insiders: > So traditionally we follow upstream package na

Re: [gentoo-dev] [pre-GLEP] Split distfile mirror directory structure (draft v2)

2018-01-29 Thread Alec Warner
On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 3:26 PM, R0b0t1 wrote: > On Monday, January 29, 2018, Michał Górny wrote: > > Here's an updated version. I've tried to incorporate most > > of the feedback so far. > > > > > > --- > > GLEP: 75 > > Title: Split distfile mirror directory structure > > Author: Michał Górny ,

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] bzr.eclass: Add --overwrite-tags option to pull command.

2018-02-06 Thread Alec Warner
On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 6:12 AM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > On 02/06/2018 02:57 PM, Ulrich Müller wrote: > > Fixes: https://bugs.gentoo.org/446422 > > Bug or Closes, Fixes would be referencing a commit-id c.f GLEP 66. > > More generally though, should we start requiring more verbose commit > m

Re: [gentoo-dev] Questions on overlays, repositories and PMS

2018-02-23 Thread Alec Warner
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 12:36 PM, Michael Lienhardt < michael.lienha...@laposte.net> wrote: > I started refactoring my solver to make it more modular, to fix some > details w.r.t. the PMS and to manage different repositories. > I thus have several questions on how multiple repositories work in por

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc 2.16/19 for Gentoo Prefix on antique kernels

2018-02-26 Thread Alec Warner
On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 12:22 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 10:10:26AM +0100, Michał Górny wrote: > > W dniu nie, 25.02.2018 o godzinie 15∶17 +0900, użytkownik Benda Xu > > napisał: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > Yes, it's 2018. But there are still RHEL 4 and 5 systems running >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Is removing old EAPIs worth the churn?

2018-03-06 Thread Alec Warner
On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 5:22 PM, Matt Turner wrote: > On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 1:35 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 4:17 PM, Andreas K. Huettel > wrote: > >> > >> Is it worth the effort? Yes, see below. > >> Is it a high priority task? No. > >> > > > > It sounds like all that ha

Re: [gentoo-dev] Integrating Portage with other package managers

2018-03-07 Thread Alec Warner
On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 11:51 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 03/07/2018 11:06 AM, anote...@teknik.io wrote: > > Why should portage download some outdated second copy of the > > sources for 'bar', rebuild it, and scatter it around the file system > > where it cannot be used by other programs inst

Re: [gentoo-dev] Integrating Portage with other package managers

2018-03-07 Thread Alec Warner
On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 1:22 PM, R0b0t1 wrote: > On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 11:52 AM, Alec Warner wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 11:51 AM, Michael Orlitzky > wrote: > >> > >> On 03/07/2018 11:06 AM, anote...@teknik.io wrote: > >> > Why should portage

Re: [gentoo-dev] Integrating Portage with other package managers

2018-03-07 Thread Alec Warner
On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 3:12 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 03/07/2018 12:52 PM, Alec Warner wrote: > > > > I'm really not happy with the tone of this email, so I'm going to > > comment on it a bit. > > > > Ok, it would have benefited from a do-I-sou

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proliferation of IUSE=static-libs in Gentoo

2018-03-08 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 10:40 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > Hello, developers. > > I would like to bring to your attention an alarming trend in Gentoo > ebuilds -- the proliferation of IUSE=static-libs, that is a flag > allowing our users to build static libraries. > > I should like to remind you that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Integrating Portage with other package managers

2018-03-09 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 11:44 AM, R0b0t1 wrote: > On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 3:06 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 3:55 PM, R0b0t1 wrote: > >> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 1:15 PM, Alec Warner wrote: > >>> > >>> Because contai

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrites: net-dns/hesiod, games-arcade/monkey-bubble, app-shells/scsh-install-lib, dev-db/mysql-udf-infusion...

2018-03-18 Thread Alec Warner
On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 8:49 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > # Pacho Ramos (18 Mar 2018) > # Unresolved security issues (#606652), tests fail (#628622, #337249). > # Removal in a month. > net-dns/hesiod > > # Pacho Ramos (18 Mar 2018) > # Depends on gstreamer:0.10 and many more dead libs (#629174), up

[gentoo-dev] FYI: Mastersync is down

2018-03-19 Thread Alec Warner
This is just an FYI: https://infra-status.gentoo.org/ Hoping to have this fixed in a couple of days. In the meantime you may see missing snapshots (for emerge webrsync) and no rsync propagation. -A

Re: [gentoo-dev] bug queue size over time

2018-03-19 Thread Alec Warner
On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 12:24 AM, Kent Fredric wrote: > On Mon, 19 Mar 2018 19:33:11 -0700 > "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote: > > > Is it possible to get graphs of bugs.g.o bug queue size for certain > > query (e.g. by assignee) over time? > > > > Best, > > Paweł > > > > The *data* is there to do it,

[gentoo-dev] Re: FYI: Mastersync is down

2018-03-20 Thread Alec Warner
r the maintenance. -A On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 9:13 PM, Alec Warner wrote: > This is just an FYI: https://infra-status.gentoo.org/ > > Hoping to have this fixed in a couple of days. In the meantime you may see > missing snapshots (for emerge webrsync) and no rsync propagation. > > -A >

[gentoo-dev] Re: FYI: Mastersync is down

2018-03-20 Thread Alec Warner
On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 5:32 PM, Alec Warner wrote: > Disk maintenance is ongoing from now for +2h while we swap disks. > > Because I'm pessimistic, I expect funny business during the swap; so > maintenance may extend further out. > > If all goes well, the disks in the n

Re: [gentoo-dev] Mailing list moderation and community openness

2018-03-21 Thread Alec Warner
On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 1:36 AM, Eray Aslan wrote: > On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 10:28:48AM -0500, Matthew Thode wrote: > > While I personally do no agree with mailing list moderation infra has > > been tasked with moving forward on it. > > You can always resign from infra. > > That was a somewhat t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Mailing list moderation and community openness

2018-03-21 Thread Alec Warner
On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 12:31 PM, Eray Aslan wrote: > On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 10:44:48AM -0400, Alec Warner wrote: > > [1] Which isn't to say that I would accept 'orders' to commit crimes, or > > other obviously bad things. > > This is the crux of the proble

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrites: net-dns/hesiod, games-arcade/monkey-bubble, app-shells/scsh-install-lib, dev-db/mysql-udf-infusion...

2018-03-26 Thread Alec Warner
On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 9:39 AM, Alec Warner wrote: > > > On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 8:49 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote: > >> # Pacho Ramos (18 Mar 2018) >> # Unresolved security issues (#606652), tests fail (#628622, #337249). >> # Removal in a month. >> net-dns/hesi

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: empty directories in ${D}

2018-03-29 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 10:47 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > W dniu czw, 29.03.2018 o godzinie 09∶39 -0500, użytkownik William Hubbs > napisał: > > All, > > > > I just happened to notice the following warning from portage when > > bumping dhcpcd. > > > > > One or more empty directories installed to /v

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: empty directories in ${D}

2018-03-29 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 11:47 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 03/29/2018 11:28 AM, Alec Warner wrote: > > > > Is there any particular reason we need to remove them? > > > > The PMS says that empty directories are undefined, so the portage > behavior of installi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Current state of arm and arm64 architecture in Gentoo Linux

2018-04-30 Thread Alec Warner
On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 7:39 AM, Pengcheng Xu wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm currently working on my Gentoo GSoC project ( https://summerofcode. > withgoogle.com/projects/#5132157995974656 ), and I'm wondering what's the > current work state of Gentoo Linux's arm architecture. The last stage3 > tarball

Re: [gentoo-dev] Access to DRM render nodes from portage sandbox?

2018-05-09 Thread Alec Warner
On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 12:34 PM, Matt Turner wrote: > On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 11:51 PM, Dennis Schridde > wrote: > > Hello! > > > > I see sandbox violations similar to "ACCESS DENIED: open_wr: /dev/dri/ > > renderD128" pop up for more and more packages, probably since OpenCL > becomes > > used mo

[gentoo-dev] Gentoo-dev whitelisting

2018-05-13 Thread Alec Warner
Dear Gentoo Community, Gentoo-dev whitelisting[1][2] is nearly ready for deployment. The new posting guidelines to post on gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org the following: - You must be a member of the list to post. - You must be on the whitelist to post. The whitelist automatically whitelists all @

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-dev whitelisting

2018-05-13 Thread Alec Warner
On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 3:01 PM, Toralf Förster wrote: > On 05/13/2018 08:57 PM, Alec Warner wrote: > > Dear Gentoo Community, > > Gentoo-dev whitelisting[1][2] is nearly ready for deployment. The new > posting guidelines to post on gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org the following: &g

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-dev whitelisting

2018-05-13 Thread Alec Warner
On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 3:05 PM, Alec Warner wrote: > > > On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 3:01 PM, Toralf Förster wrote: > >> On 05/13/2018 08:57 PM, Alec Warner wrote: >> >> Dear Gentoo Community, >> >> Gentoo-dev whitelisting[1][2] is nearly ready for deploym

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-dev whitelisting

2018-05-13 Thread Alec Warner
ust whitelisting all proxy-maintainers; proxy maint, is there a list someplace? -A > > What is the right process for require insert of my email in whitelist? > > Thanks in advance. > > G. > > > On Sun, May 13, 2018, 20:57 Alec Warner wrote: > >> Dear Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-dev whitelisting

2018-05-13 Thread Alec Warner
On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 5:25 PM, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: > On 13/05/2018 20:57, Alec Warner wrote: > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Infrastructure/ > > Mailing_Lists#Managing_the_Gentoo-Dev_whitelist > > I'm wondering, > <https://gitweb.gentoo.or

[gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo-dev whitelisting

2018-06-10 Thread Alec Warner
The whitelisting of gentoo-dev is now enabled. -A On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 2:57 PM, Alec Warner wrote: > Dear Gentoo Community, > > Gentoo-dev whitelisting[1][2] is nearly ready for deployment. The new > posting guidelines to post on gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org the following: > &

[gentoo-dev] Mailing list mis-configured from June 11-June 14

2018-06-14 Thread Alec Warner
>From approximately 2AM UTC on June 11 until about 15:00:00 UTC June 14 anyone who sent mail to gentoo-dev would have had their email dropped unless they were in the aforementioned whitelist. This was due to two bugs in the mailing list configuration (both operator error.) 1) .*@gentoo.org was not

Re: [gentoo-dev] Idea for a new project: gentoo-libs

2018-06-23 Thread Alec Warner
On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 3:30 AM, Marty E. Plummer wrote: > On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 09:22:00AM +0200, Michał Górny wrote: > > W dniu pią, 22.06.2018 o godzinie 21∶50 -0500, użytkownik Marty E. > > Plummer napisał: > > > So, as you may be aware I've been doing some work on moving bzip2 to an > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Trustless Infrastructure

2018-07-02 Thread Alec Warner
On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 1:50 PM, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: > On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 7:41 PM Rich Freeman wrote: > > To be fair, this is relying quite a bit on the last dev doing a commit > > to be checking his own tree, though that would certainly be helped if > > repoman/portage/etc were checkin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 67 is in, please update your metadata.dtd!

2016-01-25 Thread Alec Warner
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Martin Vaeth wrote: > Mike Gilbert wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Luis Ressel wrote: > >> > >> I might be asking this for a second time, but why does repoman download > >> the metadata.dtd at all? If one fetches from > >> git://../gentoo-mirror/ge

Re: [gentoo-dev] Automatic Bug Assignment

2016-02-05 Thread Alec Warner
On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 9:45 AM, Alex Brandt wrote: > Hey Guys, > > I've oft wondered why we don't automatically assign bugs to the > ebuild maintainer (if a CPV is in the subject). Would there be an > issue with adding a bug modification hook to bugzilla or a daily > job to re-assign bugs to eb

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bug #565566: Why is it still not fixed?

2016-02-23 Thread Alec Warner
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Patrick Lauer wrote: > See https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=565566 > > Since we have ChangeLogs again (November) they've been in backwards > order. Which is not really good - it breaks tools (like emerge > --changelog) and makes it harder to read for humans

Re: [gentoo-dev] can someone help me or give me access to planet.gentoo.org

2016-04-02 Thread Alec Warner
On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 2:31 AM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > Hi everyone, > > There is an error on planet.gentoo.org which is not permitting my blog > post from showing up. The aggregation program is very old, venus, and > it has an encoding error which I know how to fix. Can someone give me > ac

Re: [gentoo-dev] why is the security team running around p.masking packages

2016-07-08 Thread Alec Warner
On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 9:02 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Wed, 6 Jul 2016 23:13:55 +0300 Andrew Savchenko wrote: > > On Wed, 06 Jul 2016 20:23:46 +0900 Aaron Bauman wrote: > > > What kind of policing would you like to see councilman? Would you > like to > > > see me removed from the project,

Re: [gentoo-dev] the graveyard overlay

2016-07-08 Thread Alec Warner
On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Philip Webb wrote: > 160708 William Hubbs wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 08, 2016 at 05:56:04PM +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > >> IMO the criteria should be whether they work or not, > >> not whether upstream is more or less active. > >> If they're blockers on other work

Re: [gentoo-dev] the graveyard overlay

2016-07-08 Thread Alec Warner
On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 2:50 PM, Alec Warner wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Philip Webb wrote: > >> 160708 William Hubbs wrote: >> > On Fri, Jul 08, 2016 at 05:56:04PM +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote: >> >> IMO the criteria should be whet

Re: [gentoo-dev] Signed push & clock drift rejection

2016-07-19 Thread Alec Warner
On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 4:31 AM, Consus wrote: > On 18:03 Fri 15 Jul, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > In tracing down problems with the git->rsync path, it has been noticed > > that some developers have significant clock drift on their local systems > > (up to one case of 14 days wron

Re: [gentoo-dev] Signed push & clock drift rejection

2016-07-19 Thread Alec Warner
On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 22:21:22 -0400 waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 11:27:09PM +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote > > > > > > As I wrote earlier in this thread, ntp server is not a guarantee > > > that such problems wi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Package up for grabs: skencil

2016-09-20 Thread Alec Warner
On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 9:00 AM, Michael Mol wrote: > On Friday, September 16, 2016 09:54:42 PM Duncan wrote: > > Kristian Fiskerstrand posted on Fri, 16 Sep 2016 14:58:22 +0200 as > > > > excerpted: > > > On 09/16/2016 02:31 PM, Hanno Böck wrote: > > >> media-gfx/skencil is a python-written vect

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Userkit.eclass

2016-11-28 Thread Alec Warner
On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 8:21 AM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > On Friday, November 25, 2016 11:39:15 PM EST Daniel Campbell wrote: > > > > I could see a use-case for someone wanting to install a given daemon or > > server with a specific user and/or group. I'm not sure this is the right > > app

Re: [gentoo-dev] OT Who runs Gentoo was -> RFC: Userkit.eclass

2016-12-03 Thread Alec Warner
On Sat, Dec 3, 2016 at 6:00 AM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > OT, who runs Gentoo > > On Saturday, December 3, 2016 12:21:55 AM EST Daniel Campbell wrote: > > > > Unless something's changed in the past year or two, iirc Sony uses > > Gentoo as part of the backend of Gaikai, Google's used it for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Tinderboxing efforts in Gentoo

2016-12-04 Thread Alec Warner
On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 10:33 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 02:10:27PM +0100, Michał Górny wrote: > > Hi, everyone. > > > > I've heard multiple times about various tinderbox projects being > > started by individuals in Gentoo. In fact, so many different projects > > that I'

Re: [gentoo-dev] Tinderboxing efforts in Gentoo

2016-12-05 Thread Alec Warner
What a lazy guy that Alec is. Maybe the OSL will get a holiday gift ;) -A On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > On Sun, Dec 04, 2016 at 10:26:11PM +, M. J. Everitt wrote: > > Is it worth the Foundation dropping a few $ for that hardware to *get* > > transported to its r

Re: Why lastrite when it works? (Was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs due to retirement)

2017-01-06 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 8:27 PM, Kent Fredric wrote: > On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 10:23:02 -0500 > Rich Freeman wrote: > > > I tend to be firmly in the camp that a package shouldn't be removed > > unless there is evidence of a serious bug (and that includes things > > blocking other Gentoo packages). > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Deprecating repoman

2022-03-10 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 10:27 AM Joshua Kinard wrote: > > On 3/9/2022 16:00, Matt Turner wrote: > > I'd like to deprecate and ultimately remove repoman. I believe that > > dev-util/pkgcheck and pkgcommit (from app-portage/mgorny-dev-scripts) > > are far superior replacements, and it makes sense to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Deprecating repoman

2022-03-10 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 10:28 AM Joshua Kinard wrote: > > On 3/9/2022 16:47, Matt Turner wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 1:37 PM Matthias Maier wrote: > >> > >> > >> Just a quick though: > >> > >> Looking at the man page of repoman it doesn't look to difficult to > >> replicate the behavior wit

Re: [gentoo-dev] Deprecating repoman

2022-03-11 Thread Alec Warner
On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 9:14 AM Peter Stuge wrote: > > Matt Turner wrote: > > repoman is inferior to other tooling mentioned. The other tooling is > > actually run in CI. > > The problem seems to be that CI is running something other than > developers run, not the other way around. > > > > Develop

Re: [gentoo-dev] Repository mirrors & CI are looking for a new "maintainer"

2022-03-24 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 3:41 PM Michał Górny wrote: > > Hi, everyone. > > TL;DR: I need someone to take over the job of minimal "maintenance" work > around repo mirrors & CI. I can still do the needed code changes, I > just need replacement for stuff like filing bugs and taking care of > immediat

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-project] RFC: "Trusted contributor model"

2022-07-22 Thread Alec Warner
On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 4:56 AM Joonas Niilola wrote: > > Cross-posting to gentoo-dev and -project lists due to technical and > non-technical nature. Reply-to is set to -project. > > Once again new council has been elected: congratulations to the chosen > members! And once again many nominees expr

Re: [gentoo-dev] pkgdev commit and gpg-agent

2022-08-01 Thread Alec Warner
On Mon, Aug 1, 2022 at 8:49 AM Andrey Grozin wrote: > > Hello *, Hi! > > Sorry for a very naive question. > > In the past, I used > repoman commit > to commit a new ebuild. I got a text screen in my terminal where I typed my > passphraise (if I then committed something else within the timeout, I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal to undeprecate EGO_SUM

2022-09-30 Thread Alec Warner
On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 7:53 AM Florian Schmaus wrote: > > On 30/09/2022 02.36, William Hubbs wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 06:31:39PM +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > >>> On Wed, 28 Sep 2022, Florian Schmaus wrote: > >>> 2.) the number of EGO_SUM entries exceeds 1000 and a Gentoo developer

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] sys-meta/* to own and control /bin/{cpio,sh,tar,...} symlinks (alternatives-ish)

2022-11-24 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, Nov 24, 2022 at 9:25 AM Maciej Barć wrote: > > > Let's go for a compromise, and combine your naming suggestions into > > "alt-symlinks". > > Perfect, the worst of both worlds! :^D You know a compromise is when everyone leaves unhappy ;) -A > > On 11/24/22 17:29, Michał Górny wrote: > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: www-servers/boa

2022-12-02 Thread Alec Warner
On Fri, Dec 2, 2022 at 12:30 PM Peter Stuge wrote: > > John Helmert III wrote: > > > > There are multiple CVEs for it, is it really on us to discriminate > > > > between which CVEs are valid and which are not? > > > > > > Yes. > .. > > > > We can't possibly hope to do that accurately in all cases.

Re: [gentoo-dev] musl, sbcl, and ros

2022-12-02 Thread Alec Warner
On Fri, Dec 2, 2022 at 11:28 AM Peter Stuge wrote: > > Andrey Grozin wrote: > > This means that no user of the musl profiles has ever been able to emerge > > all these packages (because they did not have sbcl). And all these > > packages should be pmasked in the musl profiles. > > Is the last sent

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo LTS or: proper backward compatibility?

2023-01-02 Thread Alec Warner
On Mon, Jan 2, 2023 at 4:48 AM m1027 wrote: > > Hi and happy new year. > > When we create apps on Gentoo they become easily incompatible for > older Gentoo systems in production where unattended remote world > updates are risky. This is due to new glibc, openssl-3 etc. I wrote a very long reply,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo LTS or: proper backward compatibility?

2023-01-02 Thread Alec Warner
On Mon, Jan 2, 2023 at 4:55 PM m1027 wrote: > > Many thanks for your detailed thoughs for sharing the rich > experiences on this! See below: > > antarus: > > > On Mon, Jan 2, 2023 at 4:48 AM m1027 wrote: > > > > > > Hi and happy new year. > > > > > > When we create apps on Gentoo they become easi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo - Google Summer of Code (GSoC)

2023-01-11 Thread Alec Warner
On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 5:33 AM Yury German wrote: > > Hello All, > > The registration period for Google Summer of Code is coming up soon. To > continue on with running Gentoo Summer of Code we need some assistance with > the project. > > The following roles are needed: > > 1. Admin Role - To he

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] New pre-GLEP: TEST_SUITE_PRESENT variable

2023-02-19 Thread Alec Warner
On Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 9:32 AM Michał Górny wrote: > > Signed-off-by: Michał Górny > --- > glep-.ebuild | 132 +++ > 1 file changed, 132 insertions(+) > create mode 100644 glep-.ebuild > > diff --git a/glep-.ebuild b/glep-.ebuild > ne

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] New pre-GLEP: TEST_SUITE_PRESENT variable

2023-02-20 Thread Alec Warner
On Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 3:11 PM Maciej Barć wrote: > > What if developer configured an ebuild in a way that it downloads the > test suite/files/data with USE=test? > > IMO it should be added to the GLEP that then TEST_SUITE_PRESENT should > be true (exists). This is what I was afraid of with the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Attracting developers (Re: Packages up for grabs...)

2012-12-16 Thread Alec Warner
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Michael Mol wrote: > On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: >> On 16 December 2012 16:57, Michael Orlitzky wrote: >>> Inspired by the number of packages being unmaintained -- why not use >>> some of that bug bounty money to fix up the recruitmen

Re: [gentoo-dev] Time based retirements

2012-12-26 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Doug Goldstein wrote: > I'm curious who had the brain dead idea to retire Gentoo developers > that are still interested in the distro, that maintain low activity > packages for herds that are stretched way too thin, and are still > contributing to the distro in man

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc-2.17: nscd is optional

2012-12-30 Thread Alec Warner
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Michael Weber wrote: > On 12/30/2012 02:24 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: >> rough poll: how many people actually care about nscd ? > I use it for some pam_ldap machines > >> ... it'd default to off. > fine with me, I'll turn it on / need it for `ls -l /home` not taking

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc-2.17: nscd is optional

2012-12-30 Thread Alec Warner
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > rough poll: how many people actually care about nscd ? i'm making it into a > USE flag for glibc-2.17 and it's easiest for me to do IUSE=nscd which means > it'd default to off. > -mike To be fair, in my large enterprise deployment we have

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc-2.17: nscd is optional

2012-12-31 Thread Alec Warner
On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Maxim Kammerer wrote: > On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: >> On Sunday 30 December 2012 13:47:40 Maxim Kammerer wrote: >>> >>> Desktop users would probably benefit more from glibc databases, if they >>> worked: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bu

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc-2.17: nscd is optional

2013-01-01 Thread Alec Warner
On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 2:24 AM, Maxim Kammerer wrote: > On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Doug Goldstein wrote: >> You realize that files are cached in RAM right? > > Yes, I know how operating systems work. > >> More than likely those pages are always in cache. > > Did you read my reply at all? Yo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Attracting developers (Re: Packages up for grabs...)

2013-01-05 Thread Alec Warner
On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > Am Samstag, 5. Januar 2013, 16:46:07 schrieb Roy Bamford: > >> > That said, why the hell are we wasting time implementing our own >> > website >> > backend when we should be using a CMS? We're here to make a distro, >> > not >> > a websit

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please guys use checkpath in init scripts

2013-01-07 Thread Alec Warner
On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > I just gave a quick look at the init scripts installed on the tinderbox, > and the amount of them that use mkdir to create the directories in /run > and similar is astounding. > > Please check `man runscript` and use the checkpath helper

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: call for testers: udev predictable network interface names

2013-01-12 Thread Alec Warner
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Steven J. Long wrote: > Christopher Head wrote: >> William Hubbs wrote: >> >> > There is a way for users to opt out if we default this to on, but I >> > think the new naming scheme has advantages over the traditional eth* >> > wlan* etc names. >> >> I think it sho

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH eutils] Introduce run_in_build_dir() used in a few ebuilds.

2013-01-13 Thread Alec Warner
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 5:29 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > The run_in_build_dir() command simply runs given command > in the directory stated as BUILD_DIR. This variable is used commonly > by autotools-utils, cmake-utils and python-r1 eclasses, therefore I'm > proposing adding the relevant function to

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH eutils] Introduce run_in_build_dir() used in a few ebuilds.

2013-01-14 Thread Alec Warner
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Dan Douglas wrote: > On Sunday, January 13, 2013 06:02:26 PM Michał Górny wrote: >> On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 07:36:59 -0800 >> Alec Warner wrote: >> > local -i ret >> > ? >> >> Looks good. I didn't even know bash ha

Re: Debian patching KDE to use /etc for configuration (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: call for testers: udev predictable network interface names)

2013-01-15 Thread Alec Warner
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 3:00 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 5:25 AM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: >> >> I still ascert that apps adding groups with NOPASSWD sudoers lines >> perhaps even commented out by default in all or some cases is far >> better than polkit for many reasons. Any c

Re: Debian patching KDE to use /etc for configuration (was: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: call for testers: udev predictable network interface names)

2013-01-15 Thread Alec Warner
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: >> > Unless sudo has some config setting that allows access only when >> > logged in via console it isn't really a solution. >> > >> > Rich >> > > > man sudoers -> /requiretty > >> >> I manage 'thousands' of desktops at Google and we generall

Re: [gentoo-dev] Chromium system ffmpeg

2013-01-16 Thread Alec Warner
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 4:59 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 6:54 AM, Alexis Ballier wrote: >> On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 21:10:12 -0800 >> ""Paweł Hajdan, Jr."" wrote: >>> >>> What when chromium upstream uses code more recent than latest ffmpeg >>> release and it doesn't compile agai

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