On 17 August 2013 16:28, heroxbd hero...@gentoo.org wrote:
Arun Raghavan ford_pref...@gentoo.org writes:
There are images available for this, btw, if you want to see how it
works and poke around. I'd seen some repositories, but don't know if
there's enough public to do your own build.
I am
enthusiasm for this.
I look forward to seeing the solutions that emerge to solve all of
these, and am happy to offer to test on a device or two.
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configuration.
He did not say that everyone should install systemd, nor that you need
to support such a configuration.
So users will have gnome working but not any other component? How can
this a good service for users?
What do you mean by any other component here?
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?
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On 8 May 2013 21:51, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote:
[...]
Where upstreams ship systemd units, I don't think there is any issue.
The problem is you are asking Gentoo maintainers to add unit files
that upstream is not shipping. In this case we should test and
maintain these ourselves,
On 2 April 2013 08:17, Alex Xu alex_y...@yahoo.ca wrote:
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Kill zeroconf and use dnssd, upnp, ssdp. Problem solved?
I'm not too enthusiastic about that.
USE=zeroconf on pulseaudio is a bit easier to understand than
USE=ssdp, for example.
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On 5 February 2013 23:58, Pacho Ramos pa...@gentoo.org wrote:
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media-sound/dbmeasure
[...]
I'll keep this one.
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of an
argument, regardless of whether it is justified or not.
I find that Markos' objection is not unfounded and your argument is
irrelevant here.
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On 21 December 2012 18:02, Arun Raghavan ford_pref...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 21 December 2012 17:36, Ciaran McCreesh
ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 09:21:57 +
Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote:
Your tone is not appropriate for discussion. If you don't like
On 18 November 2012 16:41, Robin H. Johnson robb...@gentoo.org wrote:
[...]
media-sound/dbmeasure
I'll take this one, since it's tangentially related to PulseAudio.
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a 'company' that can pay Microsoft to
sign our bootloader? is one aspect from the non-technical side that I've
been wondering about.
Sounds like something the Gentoo Foundation could do.
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On 15 June 2012 10:26, Greg KH gre...@gentoo.org wrote:
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 10:15:28AM +0530, Arun Raghavan wrote:
On 15 June 2012 09:58, Greg KH gre...@gentoo.org wrote:
So, anyone been thinking about this? I have, and it's not pretty.
Should I worry about this and how it affects
On 15 June 2012 10:33, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 15 June 2012 12:45, Arun Raghavan ford_pref...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 15 June 2012 09:58, Greg KH gre...@gentoo.org wrote:
So, anyone been thinking about this? I have, and it's not pretty.
Minor details like, do we have a 'company
I, for one, think we should stay with CVS and leave all this git
Linusware to the new-fangled Fedora kids with their fancy init systems
and tight coupling. CVS was good enough for my grandfather, and it's
good enough for you.
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nothing at all to do with systemd.
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which touch autoconf files but my
existing patch set doesn't so I'm not calling eautoreconf. Does anyone
have a suggested way to handle this?
grub2 checks for a DO_AUTORECONF env. var. to decide whether to run
eautoreconf. This does cause some QA warnings, though.
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not be
modifying as a sysadmin anyway. I'd hope that the things that you
really do want to muck around with are provided as configuration, and
if they're not, you talk to upstream and make a case for this being
useful to users. Just like with every other open source project.
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/msg_bc91b392ee0f76376104591cdf7dc5f0.xml
Executive summary... look Ma; no udev!
Does mdev support all the rules we have in /lib/udev/rules.d/? The
Internet is surprisingly mute on this subject, but a quick grep
through the busybox source doesn't turn up anything that suggests that
it might.
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framework. For example, if someone cares enough, why not
write a wrapper script to track down the programs and libraries at
runtime that actually do use /usr so it's easier to say these
packages install rules that need / and /usr on the same partition.
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masking it
till it was fixed not suffice? Seems like a bit unjustified to me
(from information on this thread alone).
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mind should deign to mimic/copy.
I didn't get that from either of the links you posted. Seems to me the
systemd developers are looking at the split as a host-specific / vs
host-independent /usr.
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if upstream doesn't explicitly specify what sub-arches are supported?
Just enable on all till someone says it doesn't work or test on all of
them first or ...?
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(such as Decreasing year-over-year development activity). Updates are
faster of course so our stats shouldn't be outdated anymore.
So go claim your commits,
Nice! Thanks for taking this up!
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On 9 July 2011 12:58, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 07/09/2011 10:54 PM, Arun Raghavan (ford_prefect) wrote:
ford_prefect 11/07/09 19:54:34
- --with-udev-rules-dir=${EPREFIX}/$(get_libdir)/udev/rules.d \
+ --with-udev-rules-dir=${EPREFIX
though I believe it's a horribly unintuitive name to foist on users).
[1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=354585
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Manifest signing,
the signature from Dev A is lost.
If we make the GPG signatures mandatory at some point of time, that
addresses the second of your concerns. I do not understand why the
first a problem - could you clarify?
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to take this threat as far off-topic as I can,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2_%2B_2_%3D_5 :p
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, but saying it doesn't work is unfair, IMO). I
don't see how your proposal would deal with this fallout.
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mistakes are unavoidable.
He didn't say don't make mistakes. He said, be careful and if mistakes
happen, so be it.
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On 21 June 2010 21:23, Arun Raghavan ford_pref...@gentoo.org wrote:
[...]
I'm still trying to think of a good name. I understand the concerns
about introspection being too generic and non GNOME-y, but gir is
likely to cause confusion.
gir is not good because it gives near-zero information.
I
On 22 June 2010 15:32, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote:
Arun Raghavan posted on Tue, 22 Jun 2010 10:43:42 +0530 as excerpted:
b) For questions like - Should Python 3.x be stable?, isn't that for
team leads to decide? And for the council to resolve in case of
conflicts?
Wouldn't the point
On 20 June 2010 20:12, Arun Raghavan ford_pref...@gentoo.org wrote:
[...]
Any objections? I'll wait till Wed (June 23rd) before adding this if
there aren't any.
Is anyone here vehemently against introspection.
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use_enable line.
Mostly because I don't want to coin a new term if it's not absolutely necessary.
That said, you're right - more people seem to be comfortable with
gintrospection than plain introspection. If no further objections
arise, we'll go with gintrospection.
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to me (yes, I know we have
longer USE flags, and I find them too long as well).
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figure that now that we've started this way, and there /is/ a
benefit to it, we might as well carry it through.
I'm still trying to think of a good name. I understand the concerns
about introspection being too generic and non GNOME-y, but gir is
likely to cause confusion.
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for people to recognize how they can contribute, and
improving Gentoo as a whole, are all things that the Council should be
taking an active role in, and I want to be a part of making that happen.
Do you have any concrete ideas on how you will be doing these things?
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elaborate?
(w.r.t. git migration)
I hope to see Robin integrate me with the conversion process.
How have you contributed to the effort thus far?
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On 22 June 2010 00:57, Mark Loeser halc...@gentoo.org wrote:
[...]
Hope that helps,
Indeed - thanks for the detailed response.
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On 22 June 2010 03:06, Sebastian Pipping sp...@gentoo.org wrote:
Arun,
On 06/21/10 21:25, Arun Raghavan wrote:
My manifesto up here now:
http://dev.gentoo.org/~sping/council-manifesto-2010-sping.txt
For all your points where you do not have a concrete proposal of how
you intend to tackle
project (and I
believe this holds for a team in Gentoo as well) is not - You're
doing it wrong, let me show you how. It's a combination of, How can
I help? and Why don't we try to do things this other way?
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this if
there aren't any.
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If this thread started out at some point as being constructive, it's
certainly stopped being so now. Please kill this, take some cool-off
time, and come back if there is something *constructive* to be said.
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2010/6/21 Olivier Crête tes...@gentoo.org:
On Sun, 2010-06-20 at 20:12 +0530, Arun Raghavan wrote:
I'd like to propose a new global USE-flag: introspection.
...
Any objections? I'll wait till Wed (June 23rd) before adding this if
there aren't any.
Do we really want it to be a USE flag ? I
On 20 June 2010 20:12, Arun Raghavan ford_pref...@gentoo.org wrote:
[...]
We already have 13 packages using this flag, with several more to
come. The current description being used in packages' metadata.xml
sucks - I'll put something more descriptive in the final flag.
Here's the description
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litigation when trying to protect it's logo.
I think the argument is that the wiki is not always accurate, and if
perceived as the official documentation, can put is in bad light.
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On 12 April 2010 18:49, George Prowse george.pro...@gmail.com wrote:
On 12/04/2010 14:17, Arun Raghavan wrote:
On 12 April 2010 18:43, George Prowsegeorge.pro...@gmail.com wrote:
[...]
If you are arguing that the name is ambiguous then I think you are wrong.
Gentoo knows about
as examples, do you want them to:
a) Decide that this should be done?
b) Call for volunteers? (they obviously cannot force anyone to do it)
c) Do it themselves?
d) What you probably mean that I fail to see
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sufficient review and
formatting to make sure we maintain the quality of documentation that
we have had so far.
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, the only real
way to do that is join the team, prove that you are dedicated and
committed, and promote change from the inside.
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On 5 April 2010 10:34, Arun Raghavan ford_pref...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 5 April 2010 08:13, Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org wrote:
On 5 April 2010 03:13, Joshua Saddler nightmo...@gentoo.org wrote:
[...]
You guys should take a while to cool off at this stage.
Never mind me. I missed Ben's last
by the weekend.
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2010/1/2 David Shakaryan o...@gentoo.org:
[...]
Once again, thank you for everything, but my time has come. Adieu!
Nomp!
All the best for the future, and hope the irresistible urge to omp
just one more ebuild brings you back. :)
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of the above? Rationale being (1) is required to check against the
kernel you're supposedly using, (2) for the kernel you definitely are
using, and (3) to make sure people remember.
An alternative to (2) and (3), though is to add a check to the udev initscript.
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of the
infrastructure on which it (the official Gentoo project) is hosted.
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(I volunteer to help, btw) might
be, on the whole, a lower-effort and more secure option. That said,
Robin
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(at least) that part of the project which is hosted on is negatively
affected.
The 1-2 times that I asked for access to overlays, time taken was a
non-issue. If others have had problems, let's fix that instead.
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2009/8/12 Ben de Groot yng...@gentoo.org:
Arun Raghavan wrote:
This still does not address the original problem - if
$external_service shuts down, is bought out, has arbitrary terms about
content that are not immediately clear as being unfavourable to us,
(at least) that part of the project
Hello,
I haven't been able to attend a council meeting for a bit since it
occurs at ~2:30 am my time, but for what it's worth:
On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 23:15 -0500, Doug Goldstein wrote:
[...]
1) Agenda Topics are posted to the appropriate mailing lists at a
MINIMUM 7 days prior to the meeting.
On Sun, 2009-05-17 at 07:40 -0400, Thomas Anderson wrote:
[...]
The difference is that putting the EAPI in the filename has backwards
compatibility because package managers not knowing about this change
won't even look at the those ebuilds. Putting EAPI as the fifth line
completely loses this,
On Sat, 2009-05-16 at 16:49 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2009 17:43:32 +0200
Tobias Klausmann klaus...@gentoo.org wrote:
That doesn't let us do version format changes.
Or are we talking about the *ebuild* versions? I see that as
different matter. Plus: You could change
On Sat, 2009-05-16 at 12:39 -0400, Thomas Anderson wrote:
[...]
For one, there's the restriction that all *-alpha/*-rc has to be
represented _rc/_alpha. I plan on doing more research into perhaps
lifting this restriction in a future EAPI, but this would of course
require glep 55's solution.
On Sat, 2009-05-16 at 17:47 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
Ok, what are all the things requiring format-break changes that we'll
want in the next ten years? Please provide a complete list.
Don't care. Let's fix the problems we have *now* using solutions that we
can agree upon, rather than try
On Sat, 2009-05-16 at 17:59 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
[...]
Don't care. Let's fix the problems we have *now* using solutions that
we can agree upon, rather than try to foist solutions that a
reasonably large population of developers *don't* like (even after
extended debate) to solve
On Sat, 2009-05-16 at 18:55 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
[...]
You have yet to provide an alternative for fixing the arbitrary and
pointless version format restrictions that are currently in place.
Create an EAPI for the required changes, fast track inclusion to a
stable portage.
If this is
On Sat, 2009-05-16 at 20:21 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
[...]
Can't do that. The package manager has to barf on unrecognised .ebuild
files.
I assume the reasons are the same as below.
If this is not viable, make an unrecognised version string cause the
same fallback as an unsupported
On Fri, 2009-05-15 at 00:44 +0200, Patrick Lauer wrote:
[...]
So if you were a lazy Unix coder you'd just restrict the current rules a bit
so that there's only one line starting with EAPI= allowed (or maybe you just
take the first or last one, but that's annoying) and if no such line matches
On Sat, 2009-05-02 at 18:17 +0200, Mounir Lamouri wrote:
[...]
I think the code can be considered GPL-2 (i will check if there is no
header specifying something else) and for the fonts, I will have to add
2 licenses not in the tree at the moment.
But what to do with the songs ? I suppose it's
On Wed, 2009-04-22 at 16:35 +0300, Petteri Räty wrote:
Here's an eclass proposal to wrap EXPORT_FUNCTIONS with auto detection
of functions. This way all eclasses don't have to duplicate the EAPI
detection code. If people find this useful, I will document it properly
with eclass-manpages etc.
On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 17:05 +, Mike Auty wrote:
I realize it might be a bit obvious to us, but from reading it people
might wonder how they're supposed to carry out installs now. When the
notice finally goes out, it might be worth mentioning that just the
LiveCDs are no longer supported,
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Steve Long wrote:
[...]
for ((i=0;i10;i++)); do echo /usr/share/doc/${P}/examples
/dev/null;
real 11.25
real 9.24
So that's what, on the order of 20 microseconds faster for each iteration?
Or ~18%. (You shouldn't use the first iteration in
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Donnie Berkholz wrote:
On 12:46 Sun 07 Sep , Marcus D. Hanwell wrote:
I personally agree with several others who have replied to this thread.
The reduction in lines of code/characters seems to introduce an uglier
syntax which is harder to
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Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
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The benefit is that it's a logically separate action, and will avoid
all the silliness of people repeatedly changing their minds about
which phase should do the eautoreconf calls and so on.
a) Is this really an issue
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Robert Bridge wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 18:42:35 +0200
Aniruddha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've filed the bugreport (version bump) a year ago. It looks like borg
has no maintainer.
So maintain it. You don't need to be a dev to write an
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Doug Goldstein wrote:
[...]
Ford_Prefect is taking gnome-base
And gnome-extra.
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Doug Goldstein wrote:
Please make sure you commit any changes to use.local.desc to
metadata.xml otherwise you risk the chance of having your changes lost.
I'm currently in the process of converting use.local.desc to
metadata.xml. After a category
the
communication channels as open as possible, but a line must be drawn
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share more details on the experiment that showed this
kind of performance degradation and the numbers, if possible?
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. It's just a header.
!-- EAPI=3 --
Do we want to keep the spec so wide open that we support any format
under the Sun that we fancy? Seems like overgeneralizing to me.
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Does the cache format _really_ need to be extensible the extent that
we're jumping hoops to support arbitrary cache formats?
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it a QA notice to start with and make it default behaviour after
3-6 months or whatever time period is suitable.
BTW, do you have any examples of packages relying on non-fatal
behaviour for do* stuff? It'd be interesting to see why it might be
necessary.
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and should be mandatory for all ebuilds.
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of this now?
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Hello!
2008/5/24 Ali Polatel [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Attached is a patch for two minor issues with the eclass. First try to
remove py-compile only if it exists. Second, python_mod_optimize is
ROOT aware (since recently).
Thanks for the feedback ... I've checked in your patch.
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On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Christian Faulhammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Arun Raghavan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Feedback and comments (and even brickbats ;)) on the eclass are
invited.
* Don't install the COPYING file via the DOCS variable.
* The LICENSE should be kept per ebuild in my
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http://gitorious.org/projects/g-py-split/repos/mainline/blobs/g-py-split/eclass/gnome-python-common.eclass
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on [1]).
I really do like the herds terminology because it is unique and has
become a Gentoo-ism of sorts. It also is reminiscent of Larry, in some
sense (herds - grazing - moo - cow - larry). :)
[1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/metastructure/herds/
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