[gentoo-dev] [LAST RITES] mit-scheme

2008-03-15 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Binary package mit-scheme has been masked and will be removed from the tree. Our overlay has source mit-scheme-c ebuilds which is the C compiler backend. Marijn - -- Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project, Gentoo ML <http://www.gentoo.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: explicit -r0 in ebuild filename

2008-03-30 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
t; as used here must include 0 (and does by | the literal ranged definition), and both 0.xx and x.00 are therefore | defined as allowed, unless there's a further restriction elsewhere that | hasn't been quoted. | "non-negative integer" must've been meant. - -- Marijn Scho

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-editors/leafpad: ChangeLog leafpad-0.8.14.ebuild

2008-03-30 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
rwise customizability is something of a laugh. Keybindings can be rewired. Simply having the same default keybindings as emacs does not make a package emacsy. Seeing as this is an editor and a "GTK+ based simple text editor" I doubt it has much claim to emacs-ness. If my explanation

[gentoo-dev] escaping variables in sed expressions

2008-04-15 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
/\_} instead of ${D}. I could use a sed expression that doesn't suffer from this problem (thanks to dleverton): sed -ne '\_^prefix = /usr/local_!{p;d}' -e "iprefix = ${D}" -i Makefile Comments? Marijn [1]: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=217735 - -- Marijn Schou

Re: [gentoo-dev] escaping variables in sed expressions

2008-04-15 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
sions. Marijn - -- Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project, Gentoo ML <http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-{lisp,ml} on FreeNode -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkgEyckACgkQp

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: What are blocks used for?

2008-04-16 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
problems understanding Ciaran's proposal because of this and refrain from commenting further. Distrowatch page rankings are essentially noise. We continue to have between 900 and 1000 users in #gentoo. Try ranking that. Thank you, Marijn - -- Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project, Gent

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dependencies that're available at pkg_*inst

2008-04-19 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
: SRC_UNPACK_DEP="app-arch/unzip" SRC_COMPILE_DEP="dev-scheme/bigloo" SRC_INSTALL_DEP="" PKG_PREINST_DEP="" PKG_POSTINST_DEP="cat/b" RDEPEND="cat/b" and then cat/b would say: PKG_PREINST_DEP="" PKG_POSTINST_DEP="" RDE

Re: [gentoo-dev] Dependencies that're available at pkg_*inst

2008-04-21 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
;app-arch/unzip" |> SRC_COMPILE_DEP="dev-scheme/bigloo" |> SRC_INSTALL_DEP="" | | Labels are a cleaner solution to this. But again, we're discussing | current EAPIs here. Labels seems to be another syntax for providing the same information as I proposed AIUI, i.e.

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer : Markus Duft (mduft)

2008-04-30 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
f-death. May it last a long time, Marijn - -- Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project, Gentoo ML <http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-{lisp,ml} on FreeNode -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http:

[gentoo-dev] preserving mtimes

2008-05-06 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
arijn [1]:http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16162#c32 [2]:http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16162#c52 - -- Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project, Gentoo ML <http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-{lisp,ml} on FreeNode -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/

Re: [gentoo-dev] dedicated USE-flag is inconsequent and confusing

2008-05-15 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Albert Zeyer wrote: | Hi! [snip] | So, what do you think? I think it makes no sense to have a no-server no-gui option, so this just doesn't map cleanly to our binary use flag system. Marijn - -- Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp pr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About herds and their non-existant use

2008-05-23 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
e are two files that handle people and their herds. One XML for saying who is in a herd and one for each herd mail alias on woodpecker with a list of developer email prefixes. Marijn - -- Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project, Gentoo ML <http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-{l

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastriting dev-libs/libffi (replaced by USE libffi in gcc itself)

2008-06-12 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
or one. I don't see any reason why this ``new'' libffi should become unmaintained again soon. Marijn Relevant bug: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163724 - -- Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project, Gentoo ML <http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-{

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009

2008-06-18 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
gt; | I want to nominate: | | 1. Marijn Schouten (hkBst) I accept. | 2. Ulrich Müller (ulm) - -- Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project, Gentoo ML <http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-{lisp,ml} on FreeNode -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comm

[gentoo-dev] When the version scheme changes

2008-06-28 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
also illegal per current PMS as PV is a read-only variable. Right now I feel that the gain of having PV read-only (catch a few bugs?) is much lower than the pain (extensive ebuild-dependend changes when the version scheme changes). Please comment. Marijn - -- Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp pr

Re: [gentoo-dev] When the version scheme changes

2008-06-29 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: > On Saturday 28 June 2008 17:03:13 Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote: >> PV=${PV/0./} >> >> to that new ebuild. This is the cleanest way to do it and doesn't require >> any variable name cha

Re: [gentoo-dev] When the version scheme changes

2008-06-29 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marius Mauch wrote: > On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:52:37 +0200 > "Marijn Schouten (hkBst)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Bo Ørsted Andresen wr

Re: [gentoo-dev] When the version scheme changes

2008-06-29 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marius Mauch wrote: > On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 18:20:06 +0200 > "Marijn Schouten (hkBst)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Marius Mauch wrote: &

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: When the version scheme changes

2008-06-29 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Duncan wrote: > "Marijn Schouten (hkBst)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted > [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Sun, 29 Jun 2008 > 18:20:06 +0200: > >> Why can't portage use its own variables and export these wi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-scheme/drscheme: ChangeLog reversion.patch drscheme-4.0.1.ebuild drscheme-0.372-r1.ebuild

2008-07-03 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robin H. Johnson wrote: > On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 04:53:06PM +0000, Marijn Schouten (hkbst) wrote: >> hkbst 08/06/28 16:53:06 >> >> Modified: ChangeLog >> Added:reversion.

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: 0-day bump requests

2008-07-04 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
n the HOMEPAGE > whether the release was security related, and I assign directly to > security@ when that is the case (CC'ing the package's maintainers) and > perhaps pasting ChangeLog or advisory info in a comment. Marijn - -- Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-scheme/drscheme: drscheme-4.0.2.ebuild

2008-07-06 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robin H. Johnson wrote: > On Sat, Jul 05, 2008 at 10:21:50AM +0000, Marijn Schouten (hkbst) wrote: >> hkbst 08/07/05 10:21:50 >> Added:drscheme-4.0.2.ebuild >> Log: >> bump >> (Portage

Re: [gentoo-dev] sci-libs/scipy -> dev-python/scipy ?

2008-07-08 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
s become a barrier to the ability to change > a category easily and without losing the history. > > -Joe Marijn - -- Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project, Gentoo ML <http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-{lisp,ml} on Free

Re: [gentoo-dev] sci-libs/scipy -> dev-python/scipy ?

2008-07-09 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 18:34:46 +0200 > "Marijn Schouten (hkBst)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I suppose you mean git. Since it tracks content and not files, moves >> are trivial. Git actual

Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuild for x11-libs/qt-3.3.8-r3 is missing after portage update but required by the system configuration

2009-02-02 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
ependency required by "world" [argument]) > > So, what seems to be the problem? > > Is it my system configuration or is it a portage issue? Both of those versions are no longer in the main tree. I suggest you sync again and that should do it. These kinds of questions aren

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should that file be a License ?

2009-02-23 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
it be > "templatized" like most licenses ? > > Thanks, > Mounir > That paste is gone/expired. Marijn - -- Sarcasm puts the iron in irony, cynicism the steel. Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project, Gentoo ML <http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-{

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA Overlay Layout support.

2009-03-03 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
developers no longer working on Gentoo. I might even argue that Funtoo is one big overlay. When your own ability to contribute directly depends on an overlay, then why are you arguing against other people's overlays? Marijn - -- Sarcasm puts the iron in irony, cynicism the steel. Marijn Schoute

Re: [gentoo-dev] Repository stacking and complementary overlays

2009-03-05 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
overlays. Marijn - -- Sarcasm puts the iron in irony, cynicism the steel. Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project, Gentoo ML <http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-{lisp,ml} on FreeNode -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla

Re: [gentoo-dev] Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support )

2009-03-05 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
lement are what are costing you respect. >> But you'll get to be part of the >> development process and you'll get to work with the things you care >> about. > > you mean I'll be part of 'a' development process and work on some of > the thing

Re: [gentoo-dev] Repository stacking and complementary overlays

2009-03-05 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote: > The problem of ebuilds in one overlay not seeing ebuilds in another overlay, > would also be solved by the package manager NOT failing to > see/notice/use/allow > ebuilds from all installed overlays. Then

Re: [gentoo-dev] Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support )

2009-03-06 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
you imply that if you decide to not, that you wouldn't be able to "to talk to people to understand something". I just want to stress that this is not so. Many of us are available on #gentoo-dev-help and this mailing list for technical questions. Marijn [1]:http://xenoterracide.blogs

Re: [gentoo-dev] Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support )

2009-03-06 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Caleb Cushing wrote: > On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 7:12 AM, Marijn Schouten (hkBst) > wrote: >> "right now you are the kind of person that thinks being a volunteer is a >> privilege and not a responsibility. You think that bec

Re: [gentoo-dev] Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support )

2009-03-06 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Caleb Cushing wrote: > On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Marijn Schouten (hkBst) > wrote: >> Why do you think they should? > > you must have not read what I said on that bugtracker because I'm > thought I was pretty clea

Re: [gentoo-dev] Regen2 ( was QA Overlay Layout support )

2009-03-07 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Caleb Cushing wrote: > On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Marijn Schouten (hkBst) > wrote: >> Don't you get that? > > the janitor gets hit by a car and no ones around to clean the > bathrooms. You can't fire him because

Re: [gentoo-dev] Developer Retirements

2009-03-09 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
t; upset over getting pushed out. > > The problem comes when $idle_dev has XX bugs assigned to them and they > don't get resolved and no one else knows that there are issues. As opposed to those same bugs being assigned to maintainer-needed and getting lots of attention? Marijn - --

Re: [gentoo-dev] "Gentoo is and will remain Free Software"

2009-03-12 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
group !OSI. That way the infos would be there, even though they would still need to be extracted by some tool. > Comments? :) Done! ;) > Luke > > P.S. I'm subscribed to -nomail, so if your reply is directed specifically to > me or you want to ensure I read it, feel free to CC.

Re: [gentoo-dev] "Gentoo is and will remain Free Software"

2009-03-12 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
k ugly as hell but they should work. > > In a nutshell, don't use the xorg-x11 meta. Do you mean: 1) don't use the xorg-x11 meta if you don't want not-completely-free fonts or 2) don't ever use the xorg-x11 meta ? Marijn - -- Sarcasm puts the iron in irony, c

Re: [gentoo-dev] Maintainence of /usr/portage/skel.* and some updates for skel.ebuild

2009-03-16 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
ould be RDEPEND=""). +#RDEPEND="${DEPEND}" Why not make it simple and require RDEPEND to be defined? Marijn - -- Gods do not want you to think, lest they lose existence. Religions do not want you to think, lest they lose power. Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project, Gen

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Last rites: dev-lang/pugs

2009-03-23 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
istence. Religions do not want you to think, lest they lose power. Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project, Gentoo ML <http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-{lisp,ml} on FreeNode -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozil

Re: [gentoo-dev] please stop using foo-${PV}-bar.patch in other ebuild versions than ${PV}

2009-03-24 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
these issues it seems completely useless to me. Marijn - -- Gods do not want you to think, lest they lose existence. Religions do not want you to think, lest they lose power. Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project, Gentoo ML <http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-{lisp,ml} on

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites: dev-lang/pugs

2009-03-24 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Torsten Veller wrote: > * "Marijn Schouten (hkBst)" : >> Torsten Veller wrote: >>> # Masked for removal (#151986,#171649,#239222) (23 Mar 2009) >>> # 151986 - dev-lang/pugs-6.2.13 installs stuff in /lib instead of

Re: [gentoo-dev] please stop using foo-${PV}-bar.patch in other ebuild versions than ${PV}

2009-03-24 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sebastian Pipping wrote: > Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote: >> Furthermore a lot of our patches are in the sed format and I happen to think >> that's a good thing. > > My current view is that "sed patches" should o

[gentoo-dev] Preserving mtimes for EAPI3

2009-03-30 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
to think, lest they lose power. Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project, Gentoo ML <http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-{lisp,ml} on FreeNode -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI 3 PMS Draft

2009-04-11 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
enabling tests and hoping somebody > has run them during testing. You conclusion that developers do not run tests is based on nothing. Using RESTRICT=test is not a fix and just hides the problem, so it is not unthinkable that packages with failing tests get to stable. Marijn - -- If you ca

[gentoo-dev] pet feature: mtime preservation (was [gentoo-dev-announce] Council Summary from meeting on April 09, 2009)

2009-04-14 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
ed. This is clearly a hack. I know I personally asked for mtime preservation on 7-5-2008 on this list[1] and the issue has surely existed even longer. Let's get rid of this problem already. Thanks, Marijn [1]:http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/55953 - -- If you cannot read

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Training points for users interested in helping out with ebuild development

2009-05-07 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
ways? That's just like having a genuine face-to-face conversation. Are those bad too? To be avoided at all costs? What problem are we solving here again? Marijn - -- If you cannot read my mind, then listen to what I say. Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project, Gentoo ML <http://w

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: a bunch of X stuff no one should be using since 1994

2009-05-09 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project, Gentoo ML <http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-{lisp,ml} on FreeNode -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFA

Re: [gentoo-dev] Files owned by multiple slots

2009-05-11 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
isn't unique to Ruby. Common Lisp, chicken, plt-scheme, Scheme, Haskell and Perl (and many more probably) each have repositories of libraries/applications plus some sort of package manager to install and keep track of them. Is there a general solution? Is it possible to redirect calls

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Project proposal -- maintainer-wanted

2009-05-15 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
ICS, but have very broad choices in how much we want to bleed. IMO this is a different issue than having supposedly popular ebuilds not in main tree. I think there is a steady inflow of fresh developers from sunrise (and other places). Does anyone have a chart? I'd also like to know from prospect

Re: [gentoo-dev] The fallacies of GLEP55

2009-05-16 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
gt; inherit versionator > > if version_is_at_least 2 ; then > EAPI="2" > else > EAPI="0" > fi > > Besides, if we were able to do what your code does, we'd just code it > natively, not use external programs. How

Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 54 and hyphens in PV

2009-05-28 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
could be a package name though.) > The case you mention can be avoided with another restriction in PMS. > Buut we might as well go all the way and change the version separator > to -- or something, which would be the most flexible. That would also be a good solution though we don't se

Re: [gentoo-dev] How not to discuss

2009-05-29 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
ell them. What else are news items for? As long as we provide an upgrade path from version X_years_old to version X_days_old via versions A, B and C, I think we have done our part. In fact we already had one such situation with bash and portage. Marijn - -- If you cannot read my mind, then listen

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: ACCEPT_LICENSE default value (GLEP 23)

2009-05-31 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
956 > @OSI-APPROVED 23284 > @other 5998 > @total 30549" > > Thanks for reading, > Mounir I always thought that @OSI-APPROVED would be a proper superset of @FSF-APPROVED, but these numbers say otherwise. Marijn - -- If you cannot read my mind, then listen to what I say. Marijn

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: How not to discuss

2009-06-03 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
a fan of NOT obtaining PN and PV from the filename. I've > seen an approach like this used in various systems and I happen to like it: In which systems did you see this approach? Marijn - -- If you cannot read my mind, then listen to what I say. Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp proje

Re: [packagekit] [gentoo-dev] Inviting you to project "PackageMap"

2009-06-17 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
are also intending this to work? If not, why? Marijn - -- If you cannot read my mind, then listen to what I say. Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project, Gentoo ML <http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-{lisp,ml} on FreeNode -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Ver

Re: [packagekit] [gentoo-dev] Inviting you to project "PackageMap"

2009-06-18 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sebastian Pipping wrote: > Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote: >> Sebastian Pipping wrote: >>> I start to understand the real benefits of moving a larger >>> part of the maintenance down to the distro level as you proposed. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] media-sound/lilypond needs a maintainer

2007-01-23 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alexandre Buisse wrote: > On Sat, Jan 20, 2007 at 22:58:11 +0100, Jakub Moc wrote: > >> Now that agriffis retired, this package is orphaned and has quite a >> couple of stale bugs... Anyone interested, please see this link: >> >> http://tinyurl.com/26

[gentoo-dev] more up to date minimal install cd

2007-03-01 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I was wondering what is keeping us from releasing a minimal install cd more often than we do now. Isn't almost everything needed for it already in the stable tree and thus tested? And if so isn't it possible to fully automate generation of these cd's

Re: [gentoo-dev] more up to date minimal install cd

2007-03-01 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Gaffney wrote: > Also, what's the point? Everything you use to install from the minimal > is fetched from the internet. The only thing that an updated minimal > would give us is a slightly more hardware support during the install. This slightly

Re: [gentoo-dev] Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-03 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 .Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > No, I'm just the one who isn't yet sufficiently jaded by the whole > "people who don't know what PMS is jumping in and trying to derail it" > thing to have given up discussing it in public yet. Mike Frysinger wrote: > i consi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-03 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ryan Hill wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > >> I was kicked for suggesting that a) ppc-macos was breaking the tree, >> staffed by people who don't know what they're doing, a QA nightmare and >> damaging to the project, b) that pathspec was vapourware

[gentoo-dev] guile-1.8 stabilization because of gnucash security bug

2007-03-04 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 See tracker bug (http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163921). guile-1.8 may go stable soon because of a security bug in gnucash (bug 167706). I think all blocking bugs which are still open, can be fixed by either adding use flag detection or depend

Re: [gentoo-dev] forwarding a video

2007-03-05 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike Frysinger wrote: > no, i'm not directing this at any one person as i dont believe singling out > any one person addresses anything in our case > > a video sent to out by a good mate > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4216011961522818645

Re: [gentoo-dev] more up to date minimal install cd

2007-03-05 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Gianelloni wrote: > I have no plans on releasing *any* kind of nightly *anything* so > long as Release Engineering still gets minimal testing from only a > *tiny* subset of our developer pool when we are basically *begging* for > it. I've been w

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: gentoo-dev vs lkml?

2007-03-15 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve Long wrote: > George Prowse wrote: > >> Stephen Bennett wrote: >>> I'd rather make it known that that sort of backhanded tactics to get rid >>> of someone you don't like won't work whoever uses them. >>> >> You would certainly make that point

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo's problems

2007-03-16 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve Long wrote: > Mauricio Lima Pilla wrote: >> We are always ready to listen to feedback and constructive criticism, but >> your constant trolling against the forums can't be classified as such. >> > IMO ciaran has definitely been trolling this list

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC Package name additions

2007-03-17 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marius Mauch wrote: > On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 18:25:17 -0400 > "William L. Thomson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hierarchy would be the following >> >> snapshot -> dev -> build -> alpha -> beta > > And that's where the problems start. As you

Re: [gentoo-dev] About testing applications

2007-03-19 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jeff Rollin wrote: > On 18/03/07, Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Jeff Rollin napsal(a): >> > On 18/03/07, Piotr Jaroszyński <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> On Sunday 18 of March 2007 13:37:55 Jeff Rollin wrote: >> >> > Also, if you have a .co

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo infra backups

2007-03-28 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 10:30:56 +1200 > Christopher Sawtell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> There are plenty of ways of doing that, most of which don't involve >>> the huge cost of having to use a horrible version control system...

[gentoo-dev] Re: SCM choices

2007-03-31 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kevin F. Quinn wrote: > On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 07:58:59 -0400 > Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Please, everyone, go back and read the actual *facts* that were >> discovered using copies of *our* repositories before going around >> using

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: SCM choices

2007-04-03 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 11:52 +0200, Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote: >> So in light of all that I don't think it is wasteful to restart this >> discussion. > > I do. > > Want to bring it bac

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: File collisions

2007-04-20 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthias Langer wrote: > On Fri, 2007-04-20 at 09:06 +0200, Rob C wrote: > > >> Its obviously not, Many users are reporting file-collisions on a >> weekly basis. So either this isn't sufficient or the arch teams are >> not acting as you describe. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: SCM choices

2007-06-03 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 There seemed to be still some doubt as to the benefits of distributed SCMs. Fortunately Linus himself, at a talk at Google a few weeks back, explained the benefits of being distributed and said fun and interesting things about git and other source code

Re: [gentoo-dev] Living in a bubble [gentoo-proctor] Warning^2

2007-06-06 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike Doty wrote: > Perhaps you should go take a long walk off a short pier. > [snip] > Oh, I'm so hurt. You think I'm a hypocrite. Man, what will I ever do? > Newsflash, I know I'm a hypocrite, which is a lot better than the > childish passive-aggres

Re: [gentoo-dev] *DEVELOPMENT* mail list, right?

2007-06-08 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi list, I'd like to inform you about goings on in Scheme territory. BEGIN INTERMEZZO For those who've never heard of Scheme: Scheme is a modern minimal Lisp programming language. For those who ask themselves why on Earth people want to put up with

Re: [gentoo-dev] irregular metdata.xml check

2007-06-11 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thilo Bangert wrote: > is a herd1300 These seem intentional. Is there anything wrong with it? Marijn -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.o

Re: [gentoo-dev] guidline to set a timeline of removal of ebuild from stable tree

2007-06-12 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 cilly wrote: > well, I wouldn't bring up this discussion if there aren't any problems. Hi Cecilia, perhaps you could go into some more specifics of these problems? Which packages were removed and were they stable, testing or masked at the time of rem

Re: [gentoo-dev] guidline to set a timeline of removal of ebuild from stable tree

2007-06-12 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Richard Freeman wrote: > One thing that I noticed is that in many cases there are multiple > testing versions of a package available, and one stable version. So, if > you run unstable you can pick and choose, but if you're running stable > (which in t

Re: [gentoo-dev] guidline to set a timeline of removal of ebuild from stable tree

2007-06-12 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 cilly wrote: > please, understand that I do not want to `blame` any developer, unless > it is discussed here with a final solution. Since I am not a gentoo-dev, > some of the devs `may not understand` my concerns and probably `feel > offended`. Hi Cec

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA issue: No stable skype in Tree

2007-06-13 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Vlastimil Babka wrote: > Gustavo Felisberto wrote: >> Any alternatives? > > Drop it from stable completely, possibly package.mask or move to > overlay. Why should this closed-source rootkit be in stable? ++ Marijn -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Versi

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI-1 (or >1, perhaps) Proposal: AND Dependencies

2007-06-15 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John R. Graham wrote: > What I'd really like to be able to code is a range with an AND operator, > something like this > ( && >=some-cat/foo-4.0 =some-cat/foo-4.0 http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD4DBQFGclz1p/VmCx0OL2wRAuxMAJY2sDo/FpEqRN3DPk3DkCGM5p++A

[gentoo-dev] multiple compile-install phases

2007-06-17 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
Hi list, I've encountered a few cases where the build process requires building and installing something and then using that to build something else. Is there a standard way to do this? Marijn -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

[gentoo-dev] packages.g.o should link to sources.g.o and vice versa

2007-06-22 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi list, I think it would be good if packages.g.o would link to sources.g.o and vice versa. Interconnecting these sources of information would make them more valuable. I thought it was obvious so I opened [http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=181655

[gentoo-dev] last-rites mzscheme

2007-06-22 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 # Marijn Schouten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (14 May 2007) # masked for removal, use >=dev-scheme/drscheme-360-r2 # without X use flag instead dev-scheme/mzscheme -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozill

Re: [gentoo-dev] [QA] RESTRICT clean up

2007-07-01 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Piotr Jaroszyński wrote: > 1) Should third party values be allowed? I'm sorry, but I have no idea what `third party values' are. > At first glance I have only found > multilib.eclass, which is using "multilib-pkg-force". Imho no, it can use > some

Re: [gentoo-dev] [QA] RESTRICT clean up

2007-07-01 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Piotr Jaroszyński wrote: > On Sunday 01 of July 2007 11:05:24 Marijn Schouten (hkBst) wrote: >> I'm sorry, but I have no idea what `third party values' are. > > ./multilib.eclass: if hasq multilib-pkg-force ${RESTRICT}

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: cyclic dependency

2007-07-02 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Vieri Di Paola wrote: > The two software packages depend at run-time. then they can simply RDEPEND on eachother. The package manager should do the right thing. Questions like this one are best asked in #gentoo-dev-help IRC channel, Marijn -BEGIN

[gentoo-dev] internal use only use flags

2007-07-06 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 A grep '!!' /usr/portage/profiles/use.desc reveals the following: bootstrap - !!internal use only!! DO NOT SET THIS FLAG YOURSELF!, used during original system bootstrapping [make stage2] build - !!internal use only!! DO NOT SET THIS FLAG YOURSELF!, u

Re: [gentoo-dev] glibc-2.6 / gcc-4.2 going into ~arch

2007-07-06 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mike Frysinger wrote: > get your "waaait dont do it" votes in now, i plan on pushing: > glibc-2.6 ~amd64 ~ppc ~ppc64 ~x86 > gcc-4.2.0 ~amd64 ~x86 > in the next day or so > -mike - From the topic of #emacs: "glibc2.6 currently breaks emacs, use gli

Re: [gentoo-dev] Watch out for license changes to GPL-3.

2007-07-08 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 What about moving Gentoo stuff to `GPLv3 or later'? Marijn -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGkMS4p/VmCx0OL2wRAmkvAKDJCYN0B/i7Pxyg1rDPCVeaSQxZAwCfQeb0

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grab

2007-07-14 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christian Heim wrote: > The following packages need some love and/or a new maintainer: > - dev-lang/swig (lang-misc herd ?) will take this if no-one else wants it, Marijn -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-nfp] Nominations open for the 2007/08 Trustees

2007-07-17 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Grant Goodyear wrote: > Not-so-coincidentally, Gentoo's been invited to > join the Software Freedom Conservancy. For those like me who don't already know who these people are. As you can read here [http://www.softwarefreedom.org/services/] under Non-

Improving developer/user communication (was Re: [gentoo-dev] net-im/pidgin protocols)

2007-07-19 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 joshua jackson wrote: > Jakub Moc wrote: >> Petteri Rýty napsal(a): >>> Or just do it via package.use in profiles until IUSE defaults are >>> implemented. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Petteri >> As noted before, they are implemented, just not allowed in the tr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Forbid using versions in DESCRIPTION

2007-07-24 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christian Faulhammer wrote: > Petteri R�ty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> I did see anything in devmanual taking a stance on this issue: >> http://devmanual.gentoo.org/ebuild-writing/variables/index.html >> What do you think about adding a sentence or two

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Forbid using versions in DESCRIPTION

2007-07-24 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Petteri Räty wrote: > Marijn Schouten (hkBst) kirjoitti: >> Perhaps we should just move DESCRIPTIONs to metadata. That would make it >> impossible to use ${PV} and more importantly also remove some duplication. > > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: net-im/pidgin protocols

2007-07-24 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stratos Psomadakis wrote: > i'm a bit confused... > i have the same problem... > i try to make an upgrade and it says that pidgin is going to be rebuilt > without the msn use flag(althoug i have enabled the use flag for > pidgin,in /etc/portage/package

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.6.22 stable plans

2007-08-03 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
Donnie Berkholz wrote: Mike Frysinger wrote: my point though wasnt to knock ati (although it was fun), the point was that i do not believe any closed source driver in our tree should ever be grounds for preventing stabilization of a kernel ebuild so next time dsd (or whoever the ninja kernel

Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo-commits list lives!

2007-09-08 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
>>> $ xsltproc gentoo-metadata-herds.xsl /path/to/metadata.xml >>> base-system someherds >>> $ xsltproc gentoo-metadata-maintainers.xsl /path/to/metadata.xml >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> -mike >>> >> Sure... be fancy with all your xs

Re: [gentoo-dev] New eclasses for XEmacs lisp

2007-09-08 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
the same when unquoted. They should probably be quoted and that means that all instances would become the four characters "$@". Marijn - -- Marijn Schouten (hkBst), Gentoo Lisp project <http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-lisp on FreeNode -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Ve

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-scheme/bigloo: ChangeLog bigloo-3.0b_p2.ebuild

2007-09-25 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Donnie Berkholz wrote: > On 12:35 Mon 24 Sep , Marijn Schouten (hkbst) wrote: >> hkbst 07/09/24 12:35:11 >> >> Modified: ChangeLog >> Added:bigloo-3.0b_p2.ebuild >> Lo

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