Re: [gentoo-dev] Split ELF Debug (defult or not?)

2005-11-26 Thread Mart Raudsepp
ebugging on x86 with -fomit-frame-pointers. Not sure how that works in relation to split ELF debug files. http://gnu.paradoxical.co.uk/software/gcc/gcc-4.0/changes.html "Location lists are now generated by default when compiling with debug info and optimization. Location lists provide m

Re: [gentoo-dev] beep-media-player removal: 04/03/2006

2006-02-23 Thread Mart Raudsepp
ots of modern day tools and libraries (GTK+ 2.8+, cairo, gstreamer-0.10/xine probably SVG for skins soon if not already, etc). As a conclusion, if you used BMP for your lightweight player, you probably want audacious, if you don't want to try a more different thing. Hope this clears things up.

Re: [gentoo-dev] gtk2 use flag must die

2006-04-02 Thread Mart Raudsepp
said people to disable anti-aliasing, use the default gtk2 theme, and use gtk2.6 for not that bigger resource usage. Delaying GNOME-2.14 for non-GNOME packages using gtk2 USE flag is mildly funny to me, too. Some two weeks have passed from 2.14 release, I would have expected it to be in x86 at lea

Re: [gentoo-dev] gtk2 use flag must die

2006-04-02 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On Mon, 2006-04-03 at 00:53 +0200, foser wrote: > On Mon, 2006-04-03 at 00:43 +0300, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > Delaying GNOME-2.14 for non-GNOME packages using gtk2 USE flag is mildly > > funny to me, too. > > These two things are not related, 2.14 is not delayed whatsoeve

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Remove your modular X unmask

2006-04-20 Thread Mart Raudsepp
;t already :P The schedule should be pretty accurate on xorg.fd.org wiki. > A couple more RCs, and release in about a month > if all goes well? -- With regards, Mart Raudsepp Project manager of wxMUD - http://wxmud.sourceforge.net/ Developer of wxWidgets- http://www.wx

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in media-gfx/inkscape: ChangeLog inkscape-0.46-r1.ebuild

2008-03-16 Thread Mart Raudsepp
l (and go equally unnoticed): > > local DOCS="foo bar COPYING baz" > dodoc ${DOCS} Well, this DOCS deal is coming through gnome2.eclass, and that's how all of the packages using that eclass are supposed to install DOCS. I suppose we could also add a QA warning into the eclass for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for May

2008-05-01 Thread Mart Raudsepp
h a 1 to 5 months of delay. -- Mart Raudsepp Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Weblog: http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/leio signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: language bindings as separate packages

2008-05-01 Thread Mart Raudsepp
t go along, but not in all cases (depends on how much time the maintainer has, how complex the build system is, etc). -- Mart Raudsepp Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Weblog: http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/leio signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

[gentoo-dev] RFC: lzma tarball usage

2008-05-07 Thread Mart Raudsepp
eanwhile please consider using the upstream provided .tar.gz tarballs instead and not roll patchsets in .lzma just cause you can. coreutils and linux-headers come to my mind out of system packages right now. I'm sure more dragons await me. -- Mart Raudsepp Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PRO

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: lzma tarball usage

2008-05-08 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On K, 2008-05-07 at 15:34 +0200, Fabian Groffen wrote: > On 07-05-2008 16:23:12 +0300, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > This is a plea and also a request for comments on the matter of > > using .tar.lzma tarballs or not, and for what packages this is > > acceptable and for what not.

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: lzma tarball usage

2008-05-08 Thread Mart Raudsepp
ht it up here as well to ensure this is not something I have to fight against in overlays and time wastes continuously in the future. Oh and net-tools has not distributed anything in .tar.lzma, so this has nothing to do with following upstream in any shape or form in this case. -- Mart Ra

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Eclass for gnome-python* split

2008-05-25 Thread Mart Raudsepp
_mod_optimize is > ROOT aware (since recently). Does that mean that every python_mod_optimize user (ebuild) that used it as was expected from python_mod_optimize is now broken for ROOT != "/" by installing them into ${ROOT}/${ROOT}/ ? -- Mart Raudsepp Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Should preserve-libs be enabled by default?

2008-05-30 Thread Mart Raudsepp
e is just mighty happy with --as-needed and lots of benefits to gain from it. -- Mart Raudsepp Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Weblog: http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/leio -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] RFC: --as-needed to default LDFLAGS (Was: RFC: Should preserve-libs be enabled by default?)

2008-05-30 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On R, 2008-05-30 at 22:37 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 31 May 2008 00:31:22 +0300 > Mart Raudsepp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On R, 2008-05-30 at 20:20 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > > On Fri, 30 May 2008 21:13:32 +0200 > > > Luca Barbato <[E

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for June

2008-06-01 Thread Mart Raudsepp
rt has been underway for understanding the workflow. Without an update, it gives the impression nothing has been done, which I don't want to believe. I'd appreciate an update - not necessarily as part of the council agenda, but perhaps just per mail, with any discussions if any is necessary

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009

2008-06-16 Thread Mart Raudsepp
> > I wish to nominate Halcy0n, Cardoe and leio. Thanks, I accept. -- Mart Raudsepp Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Weblog: http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/leio signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

[gentoo-dev] Patching of Makefile.in and configure (eautoreconf calls)

2008-06-30 Thread Mart Raudsepp
s or something), then it's a real bug and you could probably just as well fix it by patching the Makefile.in or configure that you forgot to patch when you patched Makefile.am or configure.{in,ac}. -- Mart Raudsepp Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Weblog: http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/leio signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

[gentoo-dev] RFC: Installation of static libraries, USE=static-libs proposal

2008-06-30 Thread Mart Raudsepp
ms and potentially high maintenance effort, so I haven't put much effort into putting it into writing. But maybe someone interested wants to chat on IRC on the topic. -- Mart Raudsepp Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Weblog: http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/leio signature.asc Descrip

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Installation of static libraries, USE=static-libs proposal

2008-07-01 Thread Mart Raudsepp
having to have a INSTALL_MASK set with a few exceptions that they don't know; and if they don't know what are the exceptions, they'll have trivial problems like bash not working, iirc. Btw, just to be clear, I'm not claiming this is the sole reason GNOME doesn't fit on

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] New policy: LDFLAGS should be respected

2008-07-25 Thread Mart Raudsepp
shouldn't really care if LDFLAGS is honored or not... Maybe this gives some ideas to someone to write a proper QA script, or point us all to an already existing almighty script or tool that does just that. -- Mart Raudsepp Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Weblog: http://planet.ge

Re: [gentoo-dev]  Re: [RFC] New policy: LDFLAGS should be respected

2008-07-27 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On P, 2008-07-27 at 18:20 +0200, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: > 2008-07-26 02:56:24 Mart Raudsepp napisał(a): > > On L, 2008-07-26 at 03:39 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > > Fortunately, the majority of ebuilds/packages are honoring LDFLAGS. Of > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Usages of CVS $Header$ keyword in ebuilds - use cases wanted

2008-08-26 Thread Mart Raudsepp
p, typically build fixes). > Q: Are there any other use-cases you have and actively use? No. -- Mart Raudsepp Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Weblog: http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/leio signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Questions about stabilization requests

2008-09-07 Thread Mart Raudsepp
S=test enables the USE flag on its own, and it should never be enabled or disabled in a users USE settings in /etc/make.conf or any other place. FEATURES=test is the thing that can be modified for this. -- Mart Raudsepp Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Weblog: http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/leio signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] Testing is not a valid reason to package.mask

2008-10-03 Thread Mart Raudsepp
when that initial testing is done with helping users, the reason could be modified to tell things broke and what the tracking bug is, or unmasked if it works fine with other packages. -- Mart Raudsepp Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Weblog: http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/leio signatu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing doc use flag on gtk-doc packages to gtk-doc-rebuild or something else

2008-10-05 Thread Mart Raudsepp
ols the same thing it does for everything else gtk-doc - passing --disable-gtk-doc or --enable-gtk-doc which acts like described above for regeneration. Making USE=doc control both installation and regeneration is out of the question. The benefits of rebuilding are not that big that everyon

Re: [gentoo-dev] Changing doc use flag on gtk-doc packages to gtk-doc-rebuild or something else

2008-10-07 Thread Mart Raudsepp
ugs needed before stabilization), will be over then. Taking the renaming of the USE flag approach as a start would also mean touching many GNOME packages (build-depends on gtk-doc if eautoreconf is involved), and I'd rather not risk that at the moment. It would also heavily disrupts the movin

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 2 is brokened :(

2008-10-09 Thread Mart Raudsepp
e appropriate bugzilla, they wouldn't go stable before that bug is fixed (which I read are already fixed). I can not understand why this is dragged on. It was a bug, it is fixed. The sky is not falling and EAPI-2 is not broken - there was a bug in the implementation that is fixed. -- Mart Raud

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Installation of static libraries, USE=static-libs proposal

2008-10-21 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On Sun, 2008-07-20 at 15:40 +0400, Peter Volkov wrote: > В Втр, 01/07/2008 в 05:05 +0300, Mart Raudsepp пишет: > > Over a year or two ago, it was communicated that it supposedly a policy > > that USE=static > > Well, I don't have web-reference at hand now, but there wa

Re: [gentoo-dev] kerberos USE flag

2008-10-31 Thread Mart Raudsepp
USE flag to get things like GRP packages to work right. Regards, -- Mart Raudsepp Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Weblog: http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/leio signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] kerberos USE flag

2008-10-31 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 19:22 -0500, Andrew Gaffney wrote: > Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 15:50 -0600, Joe Peterson wrote: > >> Michael Hammer wrote: > >>> * Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [081031 15:53]: > >>>> If

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Adding lxde-base category

2008-11-01 Thread Mart Raudsepp
with upstream probably not having them categorized themselves like GNOME has. -- Mart Raudsepp Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Weblog: http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/leio signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal for how to handle stable ebuilds

2008-11-10 Thread Mart Raudsepp
ord hundreds of other packages, or I'm just allowed to remove it but should really apply a common sense as usual and you don't want to go into details in this document? -- Mart Raudsepp Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Weblog: http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/leio signature.a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please review: function epunt_la_files for eutils.eclass

2008-11-12 Thread Mart Raudsepp
that it would be a good idea to tweak revdep-rebuild to not take indirect dependencies listed in .la files too seriously, and mostly just go by DT_NEEDED entries in ELF files on ELF systems instead of all of the listed ones in .la ones, as even if a solution for upstream libtool is figured out, we'd still have old installed .la files around that include indirect libraries. -- Mart Raudsepp Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Weblog: http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/leio signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please review: function epunt_la_files for eutils.eclass

2008-11-12 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On K, 2008-11-12 at 15:40 +0100, Peter Alfredsen wrote: > On Wednesday 12 November 2008, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > > I heavily object to having any such function introduced or used or > > equivalent .la removals conducted without a good rationale and > > explanation of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Please review: function epunt_la_files for eutils.eclass

2008-11-14 Thread Mart Raudsepp
't know what will be using that shared library, so the toolchain can not safely discard anything, even if you just have one application using some big library, but only using a small subset of its functionality. -- Mart Raudsepp Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Weblog: http://planet.g

Re: [gentoo-dev] Please avoid absolute paths in patched filenames

2008-11-17 Thread Mart Raudsepp
> > --- a/foobar/foo.c > +++ b/foobar/foo.c > > and the problem is usually solved. Could you please expand on what the actual problem is for reference, having never seen them fail myself or hear any fail for others? -- Mart Raudsepp Gentoo Developer Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Webl

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-libs/libxml2: libxml2-2.7.2-r1.ebuild

2008-12-07 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On P, 2008-12-07 at 12:03 +, Mike Frysinger (vapier) wrote: > vapier 08/12/07 12:03:34 > > Modified: libxml2-2.7.2-r1.ebuild ChangeLog entires are mandatory without any exceptions for stabilizations. Don't touch packages I co-maintain without a ChangeLog entry if it's not a

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-libs/libIDL: libIDL-0.8.10.ebuild

2008-12-07 Thread Mart Raudsepp
apier Exp $ > > inherit eutils gnome2 > > @@ -9,7 +9,7 @@ > > LICENSE="LGPL-2" > SLOT="0" > -KEYWORDS="alpha amd64 ~arm hppa ia64 ~mips ppc ppc64 ~sh sparc x86 ~x86-fbsd" > +KEYWORDS="alpha amd64 arm hppa ia64 ~mips ppc ppc64

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New global USE flag: gzip-dict

2008-12-19 Thread Mart Raudsepp
uld just google if I did), read from flash is more likely to be quicker. -- Mart Raudsepp Gentoo Developer Mail: l...@gentoo.org Weblog: http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/leio signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] new categories: (was: Last Rites: games-puzzle/ksudoku)

2009-02-02 Thread Mart Raudsepp
d gnome-games meta package from gnome-*/ category and individual games in their suitable category (glchess is a cool board game, etc).. -- Mart Raudsepp Gentoo Developer Mail: l...@gentoo.org Weblog: http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/leio signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

[gentoo-dev] Category tags on packages (was: new categories:)

2009-02-02 Thread Mart Raudsepp
at the subdirs either - so categories for the user just become a way to differentiate packages with the same name for the few cases there are equal names. However those that prefer the categories approach, can keep using it. Developers also deal with categories, but that's easy enough to keep goin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

2009-02-11 Thread Mart Raudsepp
lib (frequent bumps) > net-voip/telepathy-gabble (frequent bumps) GNOME team need all these working good so we could take those. I think empathy is already co-maintained by us as an official GNOME module. We wouldn't mind co-maintenance of the telepathy stuff with other teams or people.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: bash-4.0 regression heads up (escaped semicolons in subshells)

2009-02-21 Thread Mart Raudsepp
's fall out from attempts to fix support for case statements in > subshells Then the bug should be fixed, instead of changing usage to something apparently less common, as the conversion could miss some. And more importantly users still want to use \; for find -exec ending on their command

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: bash-4.0 regression heads up (escaped semicolons in subshells)

2009-02-21 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On Sat, 2009-02-21 at 19:29 -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Saturday 21 February 2009 19:00:19 Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > On Sat, 2009-02-21 at 18:55 -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > On Saturday 21 February 2009 18:38:55 Ryan Hill wrote: > > > > On Sat, 21 Feb 2009

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: bash-4.0 regression heads up (escaped semicolons in subshells)

2009-02-21 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On Sat, 2009-02-21 at 19:44 -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Saturday 21 February 2009 19:38:33 Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > On Sat, 2009-02-21 at 19:29 -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > On Saturday 21 February 2009 19:00:19 Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > > > On Sat, 2

[gentoo-dev] Repository stacking and complementary overlays

2009-02-26 Thread Mart Raudsepp
tory is standalone from gentoo-x86 could be beneficial in more cases than this specific one. For package.mask negation as done in GNOME overlay it's also about profiles/package.mask vs profiles/base/package.mask behaviour (in addition to negation of masks in a different repository/overlay) - the discussion of that is not a subject to this thread, so please make a new thread when wanting to discuss about that. Note that I'm on devaway for up to a week from this moment, just getting an actual discussion going on this topic meanwhile as promised at council meeting. -- Mart Raudsepp Gentoo Developer Mail: l...@gentoo.org Weblog: http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/leio signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

[gentoo-dev] How to speed up maintenance and other Gentoo work?

2009-03-03 Thread Mart Raudsepp
r. I have intentionally left out my own ideas at start to keep everyone's mind open to various approaches to this. Please share your thoughts and ideas as a reply here, on my matching blog post as comments or via private e-mail! -- Mart Raudsepp Gentoo Developer Mail: l...@gentoo.o

Re: [gentoo-dev] Repository stacking and complementary overlays

2009-03-17 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On Mon, 2009-03-02 at 16:48 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Fri, 27 Feb 2009 04:41:23 +0200 > Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > So here the reverting of a masking in gentoo-x86 is quite intentional > > and currently desired. > > This is fundamentally broken as a concept. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 3 PMS Draft

2009-04-08 Thread Mart Raudsepp
we have the _choice_ to take that extra time and double-check on maintainers if they really did their job right. -- Mart Raudsepp Gentoo Developer Mail: l...@gentoo.org Weblog: http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/leio signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] Ideas for a (fast) EAPI=3

2009-04-08 Thread Mart Raudsepp
npacking .lzma, .xz, etc that need a build depend for the unpacker and don't have it yet. Then sounds fine. In separate threads: * Slot operator support * dohard being deprecated Did I miss anything? I'm not even sure anymore where to find a list of items that is current for wha

Re: [gentoo-dev] Ideas for a (fast) EAPI=3

2009-04-08 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On Thu, 2009-04-09 at 04:51 +0300, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > In separate threads: .. > * dohard being deprecated Actually bug #235642 has been fixed by now, and therefore this seems simple enough. The main reasoning for deprecation (and banning) of dohard() was that bug as far as I u

[gentoo-dev] EAPI-3 draft: slot operator support

2009-04-08 Thread Mart Raudsepp
e once we try to cover some of the above with new syntax? Perhaps some forward thinking is sensible here to not end up with having to deprecate the := and :* syntax soon after its introduction. -- Mart Raudsepp Gentoo Developer Mail: l...@gentoo.org Weblog: http://planet.gentoo.org

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI-3 draft: slot operator support

2009-04-09 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On N, 2009-04-09 at 11:30 +0200, Tiziano Müller wrote: > Am Donnerstag, den 09.04.2009, 05:25 +0300 schrieb Mart Raudsepp: > > Hello, > > > > > > This thread is for any discussion about the slot operator support item > > in EAPI-3 draft. > > > > The

Re: [gentoo-dev] Ideas for a (fast) EAPI=3

2009-04-09 Thread Mart Raudsepp
fine. > But you don't want unpack fail on unknown types? Seems a bit > inconsequent. Unknown types in this case is about "not packed at all". Or we could define those types - .patch, .bin, etc PM knows that there's .lzma, .xz and so on, so it could know whi

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 3 PMS Draft

2009-04-09 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On N, 2009-04-09 at 15:37 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 09 Apr 2009 04:12:02 +0300 > Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > It is quite irresponsible to enable that by default for the FULL user > > base, given the state of the tree in regards to it > > Which is why we are no

Re: [gentoo-dev] PMS EAPI 3 more or less ready

2009-04-20 Thread Mart Raudsepp
ew a bit further for myself in relation to profile set implicit stuff and emerge --newuse behaviour and output > * AA whatever > * KV whatever > * REPLACE-VERSION-VARS query need to think more through for myself, also possibly somewhat in relation to slot operators > * S-WORKDIR-FA

Re: [gentoo-dev] ECONF-OPTIONS (Was: PMS EAPI 3 more or less ready)

2009-04-23 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On Tue, 2009-04-21 at 16:17 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 05:11:15 +0300 > Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > > * ECONF-OPTIONS > > > > query > > --disable-dependency-tracking has other implications than it being > > allowed to be passed to

Re: [gentoo-dev] SLOT-OPERATOR-DEPS (Was: PMS EAPI 3 more or less ready)

2009-04-23 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On Tue, 2009-04-21 at 16:03 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 05:11:15 +0300 > Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > > * SLOT-OPERATOR-DEPS > > > > An outstanding problem to me as a package maintainer is the lack of > > means to know which slot the PM ac

Re: [gentoo-dev] ECONF-OPTIONS (Was: PMS EAPI 3 more or less ready)

2009-04-23 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 13:58 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 10:56:56 +0300 > Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > > If a parallel install is overwriting things on / whilst a package is > > > compiling, things are already horribly broken regardless of this >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for April 23

2009-04-23 Thread Mart Raudsepp
entially bad things don't end up accepted based on some kind of an uninformed majority vote or concensus. -- Mart Raudsepp Gentoo Developer Mail: l...@gentoo.org Weblog: http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/leio signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Training points for users interested in helping out with ebuild development

2009-05-06 Thread Mart Raudsepp
licants instead, having no real time conversations, leading to no idea about the applicants real knowledge (when there is not much time to do research after a question is posed), attitude and so on? -- Mart Raudsepp Gentoo Developer Mail: l...@gentoo.org Weblog: http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/leio signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] Project summaries

2009-05-10 Thread Mart Raudsepp
e, let's just say that the > upgrade > from expat 1.95 to 2.0 was a walk in the park compared to this. An important difference to note here is that expat case (sorry) was hit by everyone, but xcb problem will be hit only by people who have enabled USE=xcb on certain packages or globally, an

[gentoo-dev] RFC: Project proposal -- maintainer-wanted

2009-05-13 Thread Mart Raudsepp
ject hopes to make previously directly unavailable popular packages of quality easily available to the user base until other projects and developers are able to take over. Discuss! :) Mart Raudsepp Gentoo Developer Mail: l...@gentoo.org Weblog: http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/leio sig

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Project proposal -- maintainer-wanted

2009-05-14 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 20:47 -0500, Jeremy Olexa wrote: > Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > Hello, Hey, > > I have had this project in my mind for a while, so it's about time to > > get it out there, as to see if feedback finds it a good one - and if > > that is so, if ther

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Project proposal -- maintainer-wanted

2009-05-14 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On N, 2009-05-14 at 14:02 +0300, Markos Chandras wrote: > On Thursday 14 May 2009 03:32:12 Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I have had this project in my mind for a while, so it's about time to > >[..] > I think there is no need for this project. Devel

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Project proposal -- maintainer-wanted

2009-05-19 Thread Mart Raudsepp
this directly applies to the subject at hand, because > while we're talking new versions of packages already in-tree here, the > subject at hand is packages that aren't in-tree in any form yet. Sorry, still felt like replying with my view on Gentoo vs dist-upgraded distros :) -- Mart Raudsepp Gentoo Developer Mail: l...@gentoo.org Weblog: http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/leio signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Project proposal -- maintainer-wanted

2009-05-19 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 19:24 +0100, Roy Bamford wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 2009.05.14 01:32, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > Hello, > > > [snip] > > > Project maintainer-wanted > > = > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Project proposal -- maintainer-wanted

2009-05-19 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On Sun, 2009-05-17 at 12:08 -0600, Ryan Hill wrote: > On Thu, 14 May 2009 03:32:12 +0300 > Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > > Project maintainer-wanted > > = > > > > Abstract: > > There are currently quite some package requests (over 3000)

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Project proposal -- maintainer-wanted

2009-05-19 Thread Mart Raudsepp
gt; no-longer maintainer-wanted. The maintainer-wanted team would effectively aggregate those people together, so that the end result would be better quality, quicker response times and so on. -- Mart Raudsepp Gentoo Developer Mail: l...@gentoo.org Weblog: http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/leio signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Project proposal -- maintainer-wanted

2009-05-19 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 10:50 -0400, Richard Freeman wrote: > Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > > > Liking and using the package yourself shouldn't be a prerequisite for a > > package getting to be in-tree by the maintainer-wanted team. > > How about actually maintai

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Support Everywhere

2009-05-19 Thread Mart Raudsepp
people in their LQ subforums to their official forums when they get the chance? > Like it or not, LQ is the first place where a newcomer goes. -- Mart Raudsepp Gentoo Developer Mail: l...@gentoo.org Weblog: http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/leio signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Project proposal -- maintainer-wanted

2009-06-01 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On K, 2009-05-20 at 11:36 -0400, Richard Freeman wrote: > Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > > > The maintainer-wanted team owns that foo package then, which is why > > having a different mail alias than the existing one for "new package > > requests that aren't in

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Project proposal -- maintainer-wanted

2009-06-01 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On N, 2009-05-28 at 11:55 +0400, Peter Volkov wrote: > В Чтв, 14/05/2009 в 03:32 +0300, Mart Raudsepp пишет: > > Project maintainer-wanted > > = > > Mart, I think that it's good idea to create such project but with a > different goals. I thin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Project proposal -- maintainer-wanted

2009-06-01 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On K, 2009-05-20 at 00:55 +, Duncan wrote: > Mart Raudsepp posted > 1242777068.30374.30.ca...@localhost, excerpted below, on Wed, 20 May 2009 > 02:51:08 +0300: > > > It is about getting popular packages (based on various metrics) into the > > official tree for ea

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flags (network, 3dnowext, static-libs, mtp)

2009-06-03 Thread Mart Raudsepp
d be, and what the individual local USE flag descriptions currently are? So that everyone won't need to look up by themselves or guess the global description. -- Mart Raudsepp Gentoo Developer Mail: l...@gentoo.org Weblog: http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/leio signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flags (network, 3dnowext, static-libs, mtp)

2009-06-04 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On K, 2009-06-03 at 21:02 +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote: > Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > On K, 2009-06-03 at 02:13 +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote: > >> USE network is used by 9 ebuilds, and one is using USE networking which > >> can be converted, that'd be 10. > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2009/2010 - Nominations are now open

2009-06-14 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On E, 2009-06-01 at 10:48 +0200, Patrick Lauer wrote: > People I nominate: > > * leio / mraudsepp, because he's done a really good job protecting the > distro's interests I accept -- Mart Raudsepp Gentoo Developer Mail: l...@gentoo.org Weblog: http://planet.gent

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for June 25

2009-06-22 Thread Mart Raudsepp
e. Now lets get back to useful things, like giving "code names" that make sense and don't need to be looked up with what is actually meant when they are being referred to in short names. -- Mart Raudsepp Gentoo Developer Mail: l...@gentoo.org Weblog: http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/leio signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Reminder for June 25

2009-06-23 Thread Mart Raudsepp
.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/ > > > Attached is the preliminary meeting agenda. I acknowledge that agenda, or something. -- Mart Raudsepp Gentoo Developer Mail: l...@gentoo.org Weblog: http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/leio signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2009 Council Elections

2009-06-29 Thread Mart Raudsepp
ker on a vote. > > > > As a American that sees his own country's government getting out of > > control, never count on common sense. Elected people rarely have any. > > If they do during the election, it disappears after taking their > > position. I think the vast majority of people here have seen that over > > the years. > > > > My $0.02 worth. > > > > Dale > > > > :-) :-) > > Regards, > Ferris -- Mart Raudsepp Gentoo Developer Mail: l...@gentoo.org Weblog: http://planet.gentoo.org/developers/leio signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: PROPERTIES=funky-slots

2012-06-23 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On L, 2012-06-23 at 15:10 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 10:06:58 -0400 > Mike Gilbert wrote: > > > I don't quite understand why this would be necessary. > > > > > > Would "funky-slots" just be used in situations where ebuilds with > > > the same PV but different PVR have diff

Re: [gentoo-dev] Global Systemd USE Flag

2012-08-08 Thread Mart Raudsepp
ld work in a similar model as purely binary distributions) USE flags typically control the functionality of compiled binaries, usually involving external dependencies to achieve such extra functionality. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2&chap=2#doc_chap1_sect2 Best Regards, Mart Raudsepp

Re: [gentoo-dev] supporting static-libs

2012-08-28 Thread Mart Raudsepp
verlay, > where one can have static or dynamic, but not both, as per. upstream > requirements (no idea why). So FTR, this is not always a matter of > personal taste. static-libs is for installing static libraries IN ADDITION to shared libraries, not instead. USE=static is for what you have in mind there. Best, Mart Raudsepp

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Any official position from Gentoo about systemd, mdev and udev-static ?

2012-08-29 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On N, 1970-01-01 at 00:00 +, Tobias Klausmann wrote: > Hi! > > On Wed, 29 Aug 2012, William Hubbs wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 01:57:48PM +0200, Tobias Klausmann wrote: > > > As a first crude datapoint, I compared the build times > > > (configure+make) of udev-171-r6 and -188 on our dev

[gentoo-dev] Use slot deps for all gstreamer package dependencies (including plugins); preparation for gstreamer-1.0

2012-09-07 Thread Mart Raudsepp
used to be SLOT=0 accidentally, but this has been slotmoved now, so SLOT 0.10 dep there as well. Thanks, Mart Raudsepp

[gentoo-dev] RFC: Introducing stable profiles for arm64 (aarch64)

2017-02-03 Thread Mart Raudsepp
Hello, I am working towards having a clean deptree for arm64 and afterwards marking the non-hardened 5 arm64 profiles stable (or 4 - I don't see value in the developer profile without the desktop specific subprofiles, until there are mix-ins). This e-mail is meant to make sure there are no other

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Introducing stable profiles for arm64 (aarch64)

2017-02-05 Thread Mart Raudsepp
Ühel kenal päeval, L, 04.02.2017 kell 07:26, kirjutas Mart Raudsepp: > Hello, > > I am working towards having a clean deptree for arm64 and afterwards > marking the non-hardened 5 arm64 profiles stable (or 4 - I don't see > value in the developer profile without the desktop sp

[gentoo-dev] GNOME team meeting 2017-02-10

2017-02-08 Thread Mart Raudsepp
The Gentoo GNOME team will meet on Friday 2017-02-10, 20:00 UTC in the #gentoo-meetings channel on Freenode. https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20170210T20 Agenda: * GNOME 3.22 stabling status ** Should we revert default session to X11 before stabling even if USE=wayland

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Introducing stable profiles for arm64 (aarch64)

2017-02-13 Thread Mart Raudsepp
Ühel kenal päeval, E, 06.02.2017 kell 04:59, kirjutas Mart Raudsepp: > To make it easier to handle new keywording that's happening earlier > too > in parallel, I now additionally plan to move half of these profiles > from exp to dev in a couple of days, so that when repoman

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: media-plugins/gst-plugins-ffmpeg

2017-02-15 Thread Mart Raudsepp
# Mart Raudsepp (16 Feb 2017) # Old gstreamer 0.10 version, which is security vulnerable. # Use gstreamer:1.0 with media-plugins/gst-plugins-libav # instead (despite the name, it uses media-video/ffmpeg too). # Masked for removal in 30 days. Bug #594878 media-plugins/gst-plugins-ffmpeg

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] repo/gentoo:master commit in: dev-util/wxglade/files/, dev-util/wxglade/

2017-02-18 Thread Mart Raudsepp
d like to know the state of affairs, so I know for future reference what can I expect and what I can do to packages that I do not explicitly maintain either. And yes, I am aware there was a pending bump request for a couple years. I'm still dealing with backlog after getting back to tree

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] repo/gentoo:master commit in: dev-util/wxglade/files/, dev-util/wxglade/

2017-02-20 Thread Mart Raudsepp
Ühel kenal päeval, L, 18.02.2017 kell 22:03, kirjutas Mart Raudsepp: > Ühel kenal päeval, L, 18.02.2017 kell 19:47, kirjutas Michał Górny: > > commit: 7207a292b2591dde5cbd336470bed3c11617a8e1 > > Commit: Michał Górny gentoo org> > > CommitDate: Sat Feb 18 19:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] repo/gentoo:master commit in: dev-util/wxglade/files/, dev-util/wxglade/

2017-02-20 Thread Mart Raudsepp
Ühel kenal päeval, E, 20.02.2017 kell 13:50, kirjutas Mike Gilbert: > On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Mart Raudsepp > wrote: > > Ühel kenal päeval, L, 18.02.2017 kell 19:47, kirjutas Michał Górny: > > > commit: 7207a292b2591dde5cbd336470bed3c11617a8e1 > > > Co

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [PATCH] sys-libs/glibc: Convert from eblits to eclass, #586422

2017-03-16 Thread Mart Raudsepp
Ühel kenal päeval, N, 16.03.2017 kell 12:55, kirjutas Joshua Kinard: > On 03/16/2017 09:49, Michał Górny wrote: > > // > > note: i'm in process of testing [building binpkgs] of all glibc > > versions > > to confirm i didn't accidentally break anything. - fails in > > compile > > phase both befo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: profiles/arches.desc - improve repoman flexibility (with other benefits)

2017-03-27 Thread Mart Raudsepp
Ühel kenal päeval, E, 27.03.2017 kell 11:07, kirjutas Fabian Groffen: > On 27-03-2017 09:56:50 +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Mar 2017, Fabian Groffen wrote: > > > > > When you say "arch" you actually mean a keyword as per GLEP- > > > > > 53[1] > > > > > right? > > > > > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: profiles/arches.desc - improve repoman flexibility (with other benefits)

2017-03-27 Thread Mart Raudsepp
This looks good overall, thanks. If we stay with the whitespace separated columns, the spec should be clear that implementations should be able to deal with future additional "columns" in their parsing code. Below some paint choices from me. > We introduce a new file "arches.desc" which essentia

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: gnome-extra/gnome-shell-extensions-topicons

2017-04-04 Thread Mart Raudsepp
# Mart Raudsepp (04 Apr 2017) # Masked for removal in 30 days. Does not work with new # gnome-base/gnome-shell. # gnome-extra/gnome-shell-extensions-topicons-plus is a # fork that has added features and works with modern # gnome-shell that is suitable as a system-wide replacement # package

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reverse use of Python/Ruby versions

2017-04-10 Thread Mart Raudsepp
Ühel kenal päeval, E, 10.04.2017 kell 14:44, kirjutas William L. Thomson Jr.: > Again go modify a few hundred python packages to remove say 3.4. I > think about 10-20 ebuilds in. You will be scripting and looking for > another way No, for that you simple remove python3_4 from _PYTHON_ALL_IMPLS

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reverse use of Python/Ruby versions

2017-04-10 Thread Mart Raudsepp
Ühel kenal päeval, E, 10.04.2017 kell 15:38, kirjutas William L. Thomson Jr.: > On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 21:57:10 +0300 > Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > > Ühel kenal päeval, E, 10.04.2017 kell 14:44, kirjutas William L. > > Thomson Jr.: > > > Again go modify a few hundred pyt

Re: [gentoo-dev] Reverse use of Python/Ruby versions

2017-04-10 Thread Mart Raudsepp
Ühel kenal päeval, E, 10.04.2017 kell 16:01, kirjutas William L. Thomson Jr.: > On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 22:51:35 +0300 > Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > > > After testing they actually work with the new version, instead of > > throwing known breakages onto ~arch users. > &

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