[gentoo-dev] Re: Banning modification of pkg-config files (was: [gentoo-project] Re: Call For Agenda Items - 13 May 2014)

2014-05-09 Thread Matti Bickel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 05/09/2014 04:07 PM, hasufell wrote: > I ask the council to vote on banning pkg-config files that would > be added or renamed downstream (at least this will prevent new > violations). I want to repeat my stance from the linked bug that making thi

[gentoo-dev] Last-rites: dev-php/PEAR-File_PDF

2013-11-21 Thread Matti Bickel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 # Matti Bickel (21 Nov 2013) # Outdated, beta and abandoned upstream, removal on 20131220 dev-php/PEAR-File_PDF -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net

[gentoo-dev] Last-rites: dev-php/DBUnit

2013-11-13 Thread Matti Bickel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 # Matti Bickel (13 Nov 2013) # Now included in dev-php/phpunit, removal on 20131213 dev-php/DBUnit -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net

Re: [gentoo-dev] Lastrites: app-misc/secure-delete, app-misc/ccal, www-apache/mod_vhs, app-portage/epm, www-apps/online-bookmarks, sys-apps/i2c

2013-02-03 Thread Matti Bickel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/02/2013 11:17 AM, Amadeusz Żołnowski wrote: > Quoting Pacho Ramos (2013-01-17 20:21:30) >> # Pacho Ramos # Still uses depend.php >> (#449820), upstream dead for ages and # newer versions don't >> work. Removal in a month. www-apps/online-bookm

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: www-apps/phpwiki

2012-06-26 Thread Matti Bickel
# Matti Bickel (26 Jun 2012) # Dead upstream. Use any other wiki software like ikiwiki. # Removal on 26th Jul 2012 www-apps/phpwiki

[gentoo-dev] Last-rite for dev-php/PEAR-DB_DataObject_FormBuilder

2012-03-18 Thread Matti Bickel
# Matti Bickel (18 Mar 2012) # masked for removal in 30 days, ~15 Apr 2012 # unmaintained upstream (bug #396963) dev-php/PEAR-DB_DataObject_FormBuilder

[gentoo-dev] [FYI] php-lib-r1.eclass going to die

2012-01-28 Thread Matti Bickel
Hi folks, I thought I'd throw this out, so nobody is suprised when I start to put qawarns in the eclass: I don't think php-lib-r1.eclass has any value now that we have EAPI4. The only thing it basically does is a) setting RDEPEND="dev-lang/php" and b) provide a php_lib_r1_src_install that accepts

[gentoo-dev] Lastrite: dev-php/PEAR-I18N

2012-01-24 Thread Matti Bickel
# Matti Bickel (16 Jan 2012) # Now part of dev-lang/php; merge it with USE="intl" # Removal in 30 days, bug #396975 dev-php/PEAR-I18N

[gentoo-dev] Relinking fun with libtool

2011-08-16 Thread Matti Bickel
Hi folks, coming back from an extended vacation I found bug #351266[1] still open. The root cause of this install failure seems to be libtool trying to relink php's apache module. I'm not entirely sure what causes this (as my system doesn't relink the library), but more importantly I failed to fin

[gentoo-dev] FYI: Moving packages from dev-php5 to dev-php

2011-01-28 Thread Matti Bickel
Hi all, this is a quick note that the php team (well, Ole and me) has decided to kill of the dev-php5 category. We think it's confusing and the distinction of which packages go where isn't as clear as it should be. I find myself regularly looking in dev-php instead of dev-php5. As php extensions (

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Stabilisation exceptions

2011-01-27 Thread Matti Bickel
On 01/27/2011 07:42 PM, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: > Only to gain the ~allarch. When it gains it gets tested by arch member > of any team and stabled. Verstanden? :) Yep, I think I did. But what if introduce, say, a non-portable find command into a new revision that breaks on some arches. I'll carry ove

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Stabilisation exceptions

2011-01-27 Thread Matti Bickel
On 01/27/2011 06:59 PM, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: > Adding ebuilds with noarch keyword must be preceded with: > All ebuilds seeking to have this feature implemented must be discussed > on #gentoo-dev mailing list and proven not having portability issues. So instead of opening a bug for all arches, I po

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Stabilisation exceptions

2011-01-27 Thread Matti Bickel
On 01/27/2011 05:30 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > No, since there's no such thing as an app that's guaranteed to be > portable. What about app-doc/php-doc? Yeah, single use case. But I feel stupid requesting keywords for it. It's all text. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: On hosting self-produced distfiles

2011-01-20 Thread Matti Bickel
On 01/20/2011 09:46 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > So I'm not asking _you_ to waste 90% of your time discussing and > auditing licenses. We have a team for that. We do? Cool, I didn't know about that. Which team is it? > At the same time I'm not going to ask the developers to all evaluate > case

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: On hosting self-produced distfiles

2011-01-20 Thread Matti Bickel
On 01/20/2011 08:42 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > We do distribute part of our packages as binaries already so we have to > be compliant with their licenses to begin with. Better doing it with a > single sweep than trying to come up with abstruse case-by-case points, > no? No. Licenses are not a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: On hosting self-produced distfiles

2011-01-20 Thread Matti Bickel
First, thanks for pointing this out. On 01/20/2011 07:51 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > License compliance when distributing binaries; Not sure what you mean: if someone quickpkg's php and needs all the source? Well, they already downloaded them. Better keep them around, since it's *your* binary

Re: [gentoo-dev] On hosting self-produced distfiles

2011-01-20 Thread Matti Bickel
On 01/20/2011 01:50 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > I just wanted to write here a clarification regarding self-produced > distfiles, such as patchset tarballs, SCM snapshots and the like. Some > people seem under the impression that the correct way to host these is > to use mirror://gentoo/ and cop

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sandbox violation?

2011-01-12 Thread Matti Bickel
On 01/12/2011 02:53 AM, Ajai Khattri wrote: > C: /usr/bin/php-cgi -v -d session.save_path=/tmp > > OK, this is a masked ebuild but what does this actually mean and how can > we fix it? Which version of php is this? A

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: What are || ( ) dependencies?

2010-12-19 Thread Matti Bickel
On 12/18/2010 08:35 PM, Ryan Hill wrote: > On Fri, 17 Dec 2010 15:25:04 + > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > >> So would anyone be especially opposed to making "best leftmost" an >> explicit requirement, enforced by repoman where possible (at least for >> the >= / < case)? > > I already thought that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Extending EAPI="4"

2010-10-25 Thread Matti Bickel
On 10/25/2010 06:23 PM, Petteri Räty wrote: > On 10/25/2010 04:24 PM, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: >> I would like to request that 2 additional features are added to EAPI="4". >> These features will be needed for further development of python.eclass. >> >> 1. Support for "." character

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-lang/php/files/eblits: src_configure-v1.eblit src_configure-v2.eblit

2010-10-24 Thread Matti Bickel
On 10/24/2010 02:07 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > On 10/24/2010 02:48 PM, Matti Bickel (mabi) wrote: >> -phpconfutils_extension_with "pdo-sqlite" "sqlite" 1 "/usr" >> +phpconfutils_extension_with "pdo-sqlite" &qu

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: per package eclass GLEP

2010-09-26 Thread Matti Bickel
On 09/20/2010 12:00 AM, Duncan wrote: > Given that no set eapi is taken to be eapi=0, and this is proposed as part > of a new eapi, eapi MUST be set before pkg-inherit, if pkg-inherit and > thus per-pkg eclasses are to be used at all. The last sentence of the top > paragraph (of the two) should

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: per package eclass GLEP

2010-09-26 Thread Matti Bickel
On 09/26/2010 03:22 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Isn't the amount of work to get per-package eclasses basically the same > as the amount of work to get per-(package and category) eclasses? Actually, I don't know. Tell me. I've no clue how much PM implementation effort this will be, yet. signat

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: per package eclass GLEP

2010-09-26 Thread Matti Bickel
On 09/19/2010 10:49 PM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > > Wouldn't it also make sense to have "per-category eclasses"? This > seems much more useful for me. Yes, probably. But it'll be enough getting per-package eclasses in, right now. I'll revisit this when we finally merge dev-php5 and dev-php. If

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: per package eclass GLEP

2010-09-20 Thread Matti Bickel
On 09/20/2010 07:30 PM, Alec Warner wrote: > Under the new system I can put the code: > > 1) In a global eclass, any ebuild can likely use it > 2) In a per-package eclass, only one package can use it > 3) In a pkg eblit, only one package can use it Per package eclasses are pretty much eblits with

[gentoo-dev] RFC: per package eclass GLEP

2010-09-19 Thread Matti Bickel
t PMs. GLEP: 62 Title: Per package eclasses Version: Last-Modified: Author: Matti Bickel Status: Draft Type: Standards Track Content-Type: text/x-rst Created: Post-History: Abstract This document proposes a new kind of eclasses, which are specific to a certain package (hence "per-pa

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: fox.eclass update

2010-09-16 Thread Matti Bickel
On 09/16/2010 09:29 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: >> +if [[ -f ${D}/usr/bin/fox-config ]] ; then >> +mv "${D}/usr/bin/fox-config" "${D}/usr/bin/fox-${FOXVER}-config" >> fi > > seems like you would want || die here Why? I can't imagine how that could fail. signature.asc Descri

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: fox.eclass update

2010-09-16 Thread Matti Bickel
On 09/16/2010 08:32 PM, Peter Volkov wrote: > В Чтв, 16/09/2010 в 16:24 +0200, Matti Bickel пишет: >> +FOXVER=`get_version_component_range 1-2 ${FOX_PV}` > > It's better to prefer $() style over ``: > http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/082 Hmm, I prefer Backticks p

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: fox.eclass update

2010-09-16 Thread Matti Bickel
On 09/16/2010 04:41 PM, Jeremy Olexa wrote: > Hey Matti, few quick things. Thanks, all done. FOXCONF is now documented (though not set by default). Updated diff and eclass attached. # Copyright 1999-2005 Gentoo Foundation # Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2 # $Header

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: fox.eclass update

2010-09-16 Thread Matti Bickel
On 09/16/2010 03:31 PM, Matti Bickel wrote: -- Now complete with attachments :) # Copyright 1999-2005 Gentoo Foundation # Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2 # $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/eclass/fox.eclass,v 1.8 2008/10/12 12:31:36 mabi Exp $ # fox eclass

[gentoo-dev] RFC: fox.eclass update

2010-09-16 Thread Matti Bickel
Hi folks, The fox eclass accumulated a lot of cruft over the years. Specifically, it includes quite a bit of code to support versions loong gone from our tree. The only officially supported versions now are 1.6 and 1.7. Thus, I've edited it a bit. Main points are EAPI2 phase support and a lot of

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Reviving GLEP33

2010-08-05 Thread Matti Bickel
On 08/05/2010 05:27 AM, Brian Harring wrote: > If a PM encounters an EAPI it doesn't understand/support, by > definition the metadata it tried generating is not usable- the PM > doesn't support that new EAPI thus it has zero clue how to > generate/store metadata appropriately for that EAPI. I g

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Reviving GLEP33

2010-08-02 Thread Matti Bickel
On 08/03/2010 12:17 AM, David Leverton wrote: > On 2 August 2010 22:40, Matti Bickel wrote: >> On 08/02/2010 08:16 PM, David Leverton wrote: >>> If so, it sounds like what you really want is per-package eclasses >>> (maybe with elibs as well to hold the non-metad

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Reviving GLEP33

2010-08-02 Thread Matti Bickel
On 08/02/2010 10:15 PM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Aren't you really after per-package eclasses, not elibs? Yes. I don't care whether the snippets may affect metadata. They already don't (at one time they did, but we got warned that that's illegal - that's why php-5.3 ebuilds have their metadata fol

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Reviving GLEP33

2010-08-02 Thread Matti Bickel
On 08/02/2010 09:51 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Monday, August 02, 2010 05:56:08 Matti Bickel wrote: >> I've been told that my use of eblits in dev-lang/php is something I >> should get rid of as soon as possible. > > current eblits support isnt going anywhere. so

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Reviving GLEP33

2010-08-02 Thread Matti Bickel
On 08/02/2010 08:16 PM, David Leverton wrote: > On 2 August 2010 12:11, Brian Harring wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 11:56:08AM +0200, Matti Bickel wrote: >>> Hi folks, >>> >>> I've been told that my use of eblits in dev-lang/php is something &g

[gentoo-dev] RFC: Reviving GLEP33

2010-08-02 Thread Matti Bickel
Hi folks, I've been told that my use of eblits in dev-lang/php is something I should get rid of as soon as possible. Suggested alternative by ferring: use elibs. So here goes: I want to see GLEP33[1] implemented in portage, so I can shift the eblits core and currently global functions into elibs

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: eclass/php5_1.eclass

2010-07-17 Thread Matti Bickel
On 07/17/2010 09:58 PM, Matti Bickel wrote: > since there's no dev-lang/php-5.1* version in the tree anymore, this > eclass is useless. It will be removed on 17th August 2010. I've just been told by scarabeus that eclass removal is a two years minimum process. So it'll be rem

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: eclass/php5_1.eclass

2010-07-17 Thread Matti Bickel
Hi, since there's no dev-lang/php-5.1* version in the tree anymore, this eclass is useless. It will be removed on 17th August 2010. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Security stabilisations

2010-07-17 Thread Matti Bickel
On 07/17/2010 07:58 PM, Petteri Räty wrote: >> As the CC'ing should be done by the security folks/the maintainer when a >> new ebuild is ready, I don't think it needs to be in devmanual. The >> relevant people should be aware of the process. >> > If relevant people already know the policy and act a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Security stabilisations

2010-07-17 Thread Matti Bickel
On 07/17/2010 07:02 PM, Petteri Räty wrote: >> Do stabilisations on the security bug so arch team members can skim >> through their stabilisation list by just looking for secur...@g.o to >> find the vulnerable packages. >> >> V-Li >> > > If you want things to happen this way then it should be at

Re: Allow eclasses to have fluid APIs (was: [gentoo-dev] RFC: remove php4 from depend.php and others)

2010-07-10 Thread Matti Bickel
On 07/10/2010 10:34 AM, Brian Harring wrote: > If people want to allow eclasses to have fluid APIs (specifically > removal of functionality), that's a discussion that needs to start on > the dev level. > > Anyone got strong opinions on this one? The argument was presented a long time before: we

[gentoo-dev] FYI: dropping support for php4

2010-07-09 Thread Matti Bickel
Yeah, we have dropped support for PHP-4 in the tree for ages, but in the php4 overlay it still lives on. This is just a reminder that php4 will be even more broken when the recent patches will get applied. The php team does and will not support installations running on the php4 overlay and will co

[gentoo-dev] RFC: remove php4 from depend.php and others

2010-07-09 Thread Matti Bickel
Hi, yet another patch from Ole in a bid to rid the php eclasses from some long forgotten code. The patches should be self-explanatory - just rip out everything related to dev-php4 :) Comments welcome. All the work will go into our overlay (slotting branch: http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?

[gentoo-dev] RFC: removal of virtual/php from depend.php

2010-07-09 Thread Matti Bickel
Hi, in concert with bug 319623 the php team would like to remove virtual/php from the depend.php eclass. This will change DEPEND and RDEPEND strings for quite some packages. The basic idea is: virtual/php is only provided by dev-lang/php and has been for quite some time now. There are no plans to

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: dev-php5/znf

2010-07-09 Thread Matti Bickel
Late to the party, but anyway: # Matti Bickel (04 Jul 2010) # Dead upstream (bug #324825) # Masked for removal in 30 days dev-php5/znf signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Tone in Gentoo

2010-06-19 Thread Matti Bickel
On 06/19/2010 09:10 AM, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote: > I think that is the point. Is just not being actively hostile a success? Given our past, yes. Given the size of our project, yes. The sheer size of the project guarantees that not everybody will like everyone. They merely get along and no thread

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: dev-php5/{creole,jargon}

2010-06-13 Thread Matti Bickel
# Matti Bickel (13 Jun 2010) # Dead upstream (bug #321685) # Removal on 2010-07-13 dev-php5/jargon dev-php5/creole signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving unmaintained packages to Sunrise

2010-06-13 Thread Matti Bickel
On 06/13/2010 10:41 AM, Michał Górny wrote: > Wouldn't it be better to officially support moving unmaintained > packages directly into Sunrise? In this case by 'unmaintained' I mean > those which have open bugs assigned to 'maintainer-needed' for a long > time, and are potentially a candidates for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Actions of python team, especially Arfrever wrt python eclass and python-3*

2010-06-06 Thread Matti Bickel
On 06/06/2010 12:40 PM, Thomas Sachau wrote: > My base proposal for this is something like this: > > Every package defines the language(s), where it could be installed for > multiple slots, e.g.: > > MULTI_SLOT="python" or > MULTI_SLOT="python ruby" > > Additionally, it should define the suppor

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: bug wrangler queue is large...

2010-05-26 Thread Matti Bickel
On 05/26/2010 11:01 AM, Duncan wrote: [Reopening on RESO FIXED bugs as non-reporter] > That's what clone bug is for... or at least what /I/ use it for. Resulting in extra work for wranglers. At least for the packages I maintain, I actually read my bugmail and will respond to comments even in RESO

Re: [gentoo-dev] bug wrangler queue is large...

2010-05-25 Thread Matti Bickel
On 05/25/2010 10:08 PM, Harald van Dijk wrote: > NEEDINFO bugs cannot be reopened by other users, even if they provide > the requested information. I utterly fail at finding documentation on that. I've recently hit a problem where a user couldn't reopen a RESO FIXED bug, too. Are bugzi permissions

Re: [gentoo-dev] bug wrangler queue is large...

2010-05-25 Thread Matti Bickel
On 05/25/2010 10:08 PM, Harald van Dijk wrote: > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/qa/bug-wranglers/index.xml Cool, I clearly not up to date here, I've never thought this to be a project. Thanks for the link. Wrt mentioning metadata.xml for herd lookup in there: I've found willikins' meta -v (in a q

Re: [gentoo-dev] bug wrangler queue is large...

2010-05-25 Thread Matti Bickel
On 05/25/2010 09:33 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > i posted some specific examples already ... Sure enough. Just wanted to know if there's more to it than build.log and emerge --info. I'll try to extract something more than that next time. Goes w/o saying that bug cleanup should be done prior to assi

Re: [gentoo-dev] bug wrangler queue is large...

2010-05-25 Thread Matti Bickel
On 05/25/2010 08:24 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > they are supposed to be doing basic triage, user feedback Can you be more specific? I wrangle bugs when there's a need and I'd like to hear what maintainers want to see on a bug assigned to them. If info is missing I usually ask for it and assign the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Does anyone use the VERIFIED status in bugzilla?

2010-05-14 Thread Matti Bickel
On 05/14/2010 03:34 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: > I'd like to see the whole thing go away. It's this one user I've pretty > much ever seen using it. And he's using it to change "RESOLVED" status > to "VERIFIED" on e.g. removal bugs, stabilization bugs, keywording bugs... cleanup++ >> [1] - http:/

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: bugzilla flags for arch-testing

2010-04-26 Thread Matti Bickel
On 04/26/2010 11:40 AM, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote: > To make it easier to find stabilization bugs with arch-testers' > comments, I'd like to add new flags to Gentoo bugzilla. Can you explain how the "TESTED" Keyword is not sufficient for your goal? It explicitly states: "Ebuilds that have been mar

Re: [gentoo-dev] [git migration] The problem of ChangeLog generation

2010-04-14 Thread Matti Bickel
Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Matti Bickel wrote: >> I rather like the changelogs auto-generated. A method to link my git >> commit to bugzie would be awesome. I *do* envy debian and others for the >> auto bughandling they have. Previewing m

Re: [gentoo-dev] [git migration] The problem of ChangeLog generation

2010-04-13 Thread Matti Bickel
Alec Warner wrote: > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Matti Bickel wrote: >> Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: >>> From my PoV, editing ChangeLog is like editing history. Complete no-no. >> It is possible in all major SCMs for a reason. And I (as a user) would >> laugh at C

Re: [gentoo-dev] [git migration] The problem of ChangeLog generation

2010-04-13 Thread Matti Bickel
Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > From my PoV, editing ChangeLog is like editing history. Complete no-no. It is possible in all major SCMs for a reason. And I (as a user) would laugh at Changelog entries saying "um, I got that bug number wrong, it is really #1234". If I (as a developer) log such edits, I'

Re: [gentoo-dev] Policy regarding the inactive members

2010-04-11 Thread Matti Bickel
Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote: > But isn't it the councils purpose to lead gentoo? It's my understanding that council gets elected to lead gentoo as a whole. But in the end the one doing the work gets to decide what's going on (as long as it's intra-project; the only thing i remember where council g

Re: [gentoo-dev] Policy regarding the inactive members

2010-04-11 Thread Matti Bickel
/me puts on his asbestos underwear Markos Chandras wrote: > So the attendance to council meetings is enough to prove that a member is > active? 0_o Yes. Anything else is just too hard to measure, imo. If you notice a council member acting w/o knowing what the heck is going on, then vote him dow

[gentoo-dev] RFC: eblits.eclass

2010-04-10 Thread Matti Bickel
Hi folks, this is my first eclass proposal, so rip it apart gently ;) Disclaimer: the work proposed is NOT my own, but rather contributed by vapier (see [1] or sys-libs/glibc) and kumba (see [2] or sys-kernel/mips-sources). I propose to add eblits.eclass[2] (attached to this message) with the pu

Re: [gentoo-dev] [Gentoo Phoenix] an official Gentoo wiki

2010-04-04 Thread Matti Bickel
Alistair Bush wrote: > I'm not overly concerned about what wiki we use. But may I suggest we > approach gentoo-wiki to see whether they would like to be involved. +1, especially the "overly concerned" part. Seriously folks. Just start it. Take whatever you as a person feel comfortable with. Tal

Re: [gentoo-dev] Is Gentoo dying?

2010-04-03 Thread Matti Bickel
Alec Warner wrote: > The above are all pretty easy to do with the data in the tree. Some > other useful ideas might be: > - compare open bugs for the package, when was the last bug for a > package closed (bugs data kinda sucks for this) An additional search: last touched by assignee between neve

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Handling of keywording bugs with only one arch

2010-03-27 Thread Matti Bickel
Alec Warner wrote: > Could we generate a bugzilla search for arch teams? Do arch teams > already use existing bugzilla functionality? At least when i was with the ppc team, we had a bugzie search. And bugzie already sorts your query for you. I guess it could be made to only show keyword=STABLEREQ

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Qt3 mask breaks significant science packages

2010-03-13 Thread Matti Bickel
Samuli Suominen wrote: > if a package is broken, and been in treecleaners queue for too long, and > it would be a semi-trivial fix, it simply doesn't get done without manpower Because i can't find this info on the treecleaner project page: is there a bugzilla query for the "treecleaners queue", so

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Handling of keywording bugs with only one arch

2010-03-12 Thread Matti Bickel
Ryan Hill wrote: > I can't find it any more, but that's probably where this idea came > from. It never really made sense to me but I've done it on several occasions. me too. I guess it's been handed down for ages. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] ebuild function to show package changelog

2010-03-12 Thread Matti Bickel
Jeremy Olexa wrote: > There is an optional tag in metadata.xml. Good. Seems i'm not the first who thought about that ;) Yeah, maybe we can get the package managers to display the URLs corresponding to the atoms to be installed/updated when given a flag. But maybe that already exists, i haven't ha

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] ebuild function to show package changelog

2010-03-12 Thread Matti Bickel
Angelo Arrifano wrote: > What do you people think on a new pkg_changelog function that would > instruct the ebuild how to retrieve this kind of information from the > package? No, please don't. I'm okay with it if your mean "at the end of emerge -u ", but wouldn't it be pointless to see what chang

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Python 3.1: Stabilization and news item

2010-03-08 Thread Matti Bickel
Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote: > On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 09:08:14PM -0600, Ryan Hill wrote: >> A stable user who doesn't want python 3 installed shouldn't have it >> forced on them. If something is pulling in python-3 then that >> package needs to have its dependencies fixed. IIRC Portage isn't >>

Re: [gentoo-dev] `paludis --info' is not like `emerge --info'

2009-04-04 Thread Matti Bickel
e the same no matter who you like best is > incredibly usefull. ++ Please, do it. Even an educated guess is better than nothing, raising the probability bug-wranglers can handle the bug even before it hits other devs' inboxes. -- Regards, Matti Bickel Signed/Encrypted email preferred (k

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Deprecating EAPI0

2009-03-22 Thread Matti Bickel
i went for EAPI=2. How are other ebuild developers doing this? What's the package manager ppls take on this? -- Regards, Matti Bickel Signed/Encrypted email preferred (key 4849EC6C) pgpr5TMoF3mbY.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] prepalldocs implementation in eutils.eclass (was: prepalldocs is now banned)

2009-02-19 Thread Matti Bickel
s -r examples > to: > dodoc examples > > > Your comments? Yes, please. It will simplify dozens of ebuilds and feels 'natural' to me. Keeping with doins, etc. i would propose to make it dodoc -r $something And thanks for your analysis. -- Regards, Matti Bickel Sig

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: fox.eclass update

2009-02-09 Thread Matti Bickel
Peter Volkov wrote: > В Вск, 08/02/2009 в 23:06 +0100, Matti Bickel пишет: > > +# could probably be lower > > +WANT_AUTOCONF="latest" > > +WANT_AUTOMAKE="latest" > > These are defaults. You don't need to specify them. > > > +

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: fox.eclass update

2009-02-08 Thread Matti Bickel
Hi, shame on me, here i'm wondering why noone replies... Sorry, i failed to send the updated patch o.O Here's the patch again w/ your suggestions included. -- Regards, Matti Bickel Signed/Encrypted email preferred (key 4849EC6C) --- /usr/portage/eclass/fox.eclass 2008-1

Re: [gentoo-dev] Time to say goodbye

2008-11-30 Thread Matti Bickel
ons. Thank you. And i'll see to fulfill my promise to get gentoo-stats going. See you on the other side (or some other event around here). -- Regards, Matti Bickel Signed/Encrypted email preferred (key 4849EC6C) pgpl5mKjPyzyw.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Moving HOMEPAGE out of ebuilds for the future

2008-11-30 Thread Matti Bickel
ll have the same path.. my poor ibook would take too long for such a thing, so sorry, no data here. And while your proposal sounds more compliant to the DRY principle, i would object it on the basis that it makes a single ebuild actually harder to understand as you have to read (1) eclasses, (2

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal for how to handle stable ebuilds

2008-11-15 Thread Matti Bickel
60? I don't know, and it's not important at this point) maintainers could move to stable their package themself IF the automatic tests indicate success AND no arch member has spoken up. just my $0.02 -- Regards, Matti Bickel Signed/Encrypted email preferred (key 4849EC6C) pgpaOntcepuKy.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: fox.eclass update

2008-10-13 Thread Matti Bickel
s-manpages > format. I also included some eclass-manpage foo now, thanks for the hint. -- Regards, Matti Bickel Signed/Encrypted email preferred (key 4849EC6C) --- gentoo-x86/eclass/fox.eclass2008-10-12 14:31:36.0 +0200 +++ fox-proposed.eclass 2008-10-13 20:27:05.0 +0200 @@

[gentoo-dev] RFC: fox.eclass update

2008-10-12 Thread Matti Bickel
of einfo * apply more variable quoting I'm sure, I missed one or the other issue. That's why I'm posting it here for public review. If you have requests or comments to make, please reply to this thread. -- Regards, Matti Bickel Signed/Encrypted email preferred (key 4849EC6C) #

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council 2008/2009 - RESULTS

2008-07-10 Thread Matti Bickel
ate the work you, and especially donnie with the planning, put into this. -- Regards, Matti Bickel Signed/Encrypted email preferred (key 4849EC6C) pgp7xuStDxCE4.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: 0-day bump requests

2008-07-10 Thread Matti Bickel
critical i like timely feedback on it, in a "hey, this has been out for some days, fixes issue X, which is kind of important to me, could we have a bump in the tree?" kind of way. I DO get annoyed by "package X has a bugfix release out 5 hours now, why isn't it in the tr

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in sys-cluster/pvfs2: ChangeLog pvfs2-2.6.3-r1.ebuild

2007-10-14 Thread Matti Bickel
re only applied for >=2.6.22 and first only if >2.6.20. The point is that if you stick to "ge" OR "gt", everyone could just skip reading the comparison and focus on the numbers. Will be fixed in the next release, along with kernel-2.4 support... -- Regards, Matti Bickel Signed/Encrypted email preferred (key 4849EC6C) pgpGNkr8MFQEL.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] "Trivial" commit reviews

2007-09-24 Thread Matti Bickel
for long. But as long as they do, they serve as a big reminder in your inbox of what is wrong. Just my 0.02$ -- Regards, Matti Bickel Signed/Encrypted email preferred (key 4849EC6C) pgpSepMsMY6j8.pgp Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: net-irc/xdcc-fetch

2007-09-18 Thread Matti Bickel
# Matti Bickel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (18 Sep 2007) # Masked for removal in 30 days # Last release 2005, only works with # unsupported FXRuby-1.0 or -1.2. (bug #177785) net-irc/xdcc-fetch Jokey agreed to let it go. This will greatly simplify FXRuby stuff :-) -- Regards, Matti Bickel

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: x11-wm/ion2

2007-09-12 Thread Matti Bickel
Mike Doty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Matti Bickel wrote: > > Hi, > > as previously mentioned, ion2 is currently broken (bug #167468) and > > going away in favour of the soon to be stable x11-wm/ion3. > > > > It will be p.masked and removed in 30 days unle

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: x11-wm/ion2

2007-09-11 Thread Matti Bickel
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages of for grabs

2007-09-05 Thread Matti Bickel
Christian Heim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 29 August 2007 21:41:07 Christian Heim wrote: > maintainer-needed: > - x11-wm/ion2 (twp) Will have last-rites this week. With the advent of ion3 stable in my overlay there's no use to keep it. -- Regards, Matti Bic

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: How to help an ebuild move along

2007-06-11 Thread Matti Bickel
a gentoo developer on it. Please help Flammie with that :) -- Regards, Matti Bickel Encrypted/Signed Email preferred pgpdWg7s5MB62.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PMS] Version Naming Clarification

2007-06-07 Thread Matti Bickel
t it to be a atom, else you have to prefix it with ">=" to be a CPV. If i choose to specify sys-utils/bar then i get any version of bar, which is fine. If i choose to specify sys-utils/bar-3 and bar-3 is not a valid atom, repoman cries at me. Thus, you can continue using the tree j

Re: [gentoo-dev] What's it about, anyway?

2007-06-05 Thread Matti Bickel
t's helps your bloodpressure, your fellow devs and our users. So please stop this nonsense and name-calling. -- Regards, Matti Bickel Encrypted/Signed Email preferred pgprTlgdsqp6P.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: ion license

2007-05-13 Thread Matti Bickel
is ml.. However, i don't think think his reasoning is justified here. We do inform the user, everything else is not within our reach. And imho the license doesn't require more. If i get a cease and desist over *that*, well, screw it. -- Regards, Matti Bickel Encrypted/Signed Email prefer

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: ion license

2007-05-13 Thread Matti Bickel
Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Matti Bickel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How's that? I agree that this timely response clause will mean ion-3 > > will never go stable. That's the only thing i could envision to be a > > policy violation.

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: ion license

2007-05-13 Thread Matti Bickel
. That's why i'm trying to reach a compromise on those USE patches we apply. That's why the next build will tell ppl to bug me first. In general: i don't think forking is an option. I won't be maintaining a fork myself to begin with. If the general feeling is that ion is un

[gentoo-dev] RFC: ion license

2007-05-12 Thread Matti Bickel
ttps://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/ion-general/2007-April/001959.html http://archlinux.org/pipermail/tur-users/2007-April/004634.html -- Regards, Matti Bickel Encrypted/Signed Email preferred Copyright (c) Tuomo Valkonen 1999-2007. The code of this project is "essentially" license

Re: [gentoo-dev] Planning for automatic assignment of bugs

2007-04-27 Thread Matti Bickel
Robin H. Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Taking into account the other reasonable input, how about the name of > attribute 'automatic-bug' ? I would like "assign" somewhere in the name, but i'd be fine with your proposal as well. -- Regards, Matti Bi

Re: [gentoo-dev] new herd: theology

2007-04-27 Thread Matti Bickel
. Will you bring back xmms? Will your program include last-rites for packages you "convert" over from maintainer-needed? Oh, and about that "theology" herd - i do find 'theology' a kinda narrow naming, but that's just me. -- Regards, Matti Bickel Encrypted/Signed Email preferred pgpTVOJsY2bso.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] New Developer: Aggelos Orfanakos (agorf)

2007-04-20 Thread Matti Bickel
able tennis. Now come over here and beat > me! No, not far at all, just the other side of Europe, so no excuses :p I'll be umpire of this. And after that, i'll beat you two :p We need one more for a double.. -- Regards, Matti Bickel Homepage: http://www.rateu.de Encrypted/Signed Emai

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Fw: [gentoo-core] [POLICY] Keywording/Stabilizing Bug Assignment Policy

2007-04-18 Thread Matti Bickel
s while testing. Nothing sucks more than us discovering "ups, $maintainer hasn't tested this code to be endian aware and it goes nuts on my machine" and the maintainer not responding to it (yes, i'll prod $maintainer seperatly on IRC, but bugs is just way easier). -- R

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