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The debugedit ebuild is at:
http://dev.gentoo.org/~tester/debugedit-4.4.3-ebuild.tar.bz2
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tch and I have over 475 MB of debug
info and 246 MB of source code, but I have 1.5 GB inside /usr/lib ..
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Why move the libexec content to libdir? They are all executables, not
libraries. Its in the same category as /usr/bin.
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And they seem to recommend a
libdir subdirectory... In the end it doesn't really matter, but if we
change from libexec to lib/misc.. will need to modify a lot of gnome
package at least.
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2005-May/msg00240.html
http://lists.debian.org/debian-dev
bug instead of nostrip? And make building with -g
the default, then tell small HD users how to disable it in the docs. And
it needs to disable -fomit-frame-pointer at least on x86. I've been
building my whole system with splitdebug and yes it does take a lot of
space, but its really useful
On Fri, 2006-10-02 at 10:33 +0100, Jakub Moc wrote:
> Otherwise, I suggest to p.mask this in two weeks and then remove from
> portage.
Is there any other useful gtk ldap browser in the tree ?
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ddress packages which still legitimately utilize gtk/gtk2
Is there a legitimate reason to use gtk1 if the gtk2 support is useable?
Either way, there shouldnt be a gtk2 flag..
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developer,
> deltacow, also lives in North Hatley.
Our conspiracy is defintely growing.. I live in Montreal... We're like
5-6 in Quebec now!!
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New server requires new drivers. Old server requires old drivers. There
> is no valid combination of new and old.
Then you should probably has new drivers block old servers and new
servers block old drivers...
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xample)?
>
> Nothing per se, but I have yet to see any FOSS application dlopen() gtk+
> or libpng.
FOSS is the keyword here... the flash plugin dlopens a bunch of stuff
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al/libc". C++ packages will need a stdc++ depend.
Adding a dep to libc almost everywhere seems extremely wrong to me. I
though we had decided many times that it was a bad idea.
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op users would want, since it lets
> them see all those pretty graphics. Comments? Concerns?
imlib is unmaintained/deprecated. So I don't think it makes sense to
push it by default to users using GNOME/KDE at least (because they have
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On Mon, 2008-08-18 at 16:18 +0100, Tony "Chainsaw" Vroon wrote:
> sys-auth/thinkfinger
I have a thinkpad with the right hardware, so I can take this one, did
you already pimp out your other thinkpad packages?
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everyone and just install everything in /usr like everyone else does, if
upstream wanted it to be parallel installable, they would have made it
that way (like gnome 1.x vs gnome 2.x).
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Hi,
My Inspiron has died so I can no longer test app-laptop/i8kutils, so I
can't really maintain it anymore. If any dev wants to take it, its all
yours. If there is a user who want to maintain it, I can proxy.
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> on a *desktop* oriented system?
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stable user, I also find this very
frustrating.
I'd like to go further and ask that for the next EAPI change, we only
allow ebuilds using it into the tree once a version of portage that
supports it has gone stable. And then, not make any ebuild with the new
EAPI stable for 60 mo
On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 00:11 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 19:09:50 -0500
> Olivier Crête <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'd like to go further and ask that for the next EAPI change, we only
> > allow ebuilds using it into the tree once a version
On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 00:29 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 19:25:44 -0500
> Olivier Crête <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The testing should be two phased, the first for regression (against
> > existing ebuilds), and once thats stable, then we can t
gt; And bits of code of that ilk.
Maybe we could use the dev wiki for that kind of stuff?
Having a wiki.gentoo.org would be even better...
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by multilib
> eclass)
> -comment out the inherit line
> -comment out DEPEND and RDEPEND
> -remove the || die from econf
> -comment out the complete src_compile
It may also be a good time to think about updating skel.eclass to use
EAPI=2
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Hello,
mpeg4ip is dead upstream and has various bugs [1] (some we patch, some
we don't).
I'll package.mask/remove it if no one wants to take it over (and
effectively become upstream).
[1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=190959
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always with econf seems slightly inappropriate, given the
> above.
> Don't think this is an item for fast-tracked EAPI-3.
I'm not a big fan either of this one either, when stuff is patched, you
may not want that disabled.
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USED TO BE*, namely a simple devicei
> manager.
Maybe Greg understands how udev was and how it should be better than you
do, since he wrote it.
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n PA allows for
lower power usage or how modern audio hardware is designed to use a
userspace sound server, etc.
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and udev are condemned to reinvent it, poorly".
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ple.
For the people who don't want to easily use USB sticks or digital
cameras or gsm dongles or really any modern hardware, I'm sure mdev is
fine. A static /dev is even fine for you probably.
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ode,
and was designed to be a good fit for embedded devices.
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n the difference between them.
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On Tue, 2012-07-17 at 20:37 -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
> On 2012-07-17, at 7:07 PM, Olivier Crête wrote:
>
> > I'm sure most people can't
> > even explain the difference between them.
> >
>
> /sbin is for bins that only root should be able to run.
On Tue, 2012-07-17 at 20:37 -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
> On 2012-07-17, at 7:07 PM, Olivier Crête wrote:
>
> > I'm sure most people can't
> > even explain the difference between them.
> >
>
> /sbin is for bins that only root should be able to run. e
On Tue, 2012-07-17 at 23:54 -0400, Richard Yao wrote:
> On 07/17/2012 07:07 PM, Olivier Crête wrote:
> > On Tue, 2012-07-17 at 18:41 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
> >> If somebody really is pushing for an all-out /usr move by all means
> >> speak up, but I think that
, we have
dependencies on udev for certain features.
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s were based on. Btrfs
> might change our expectations. I'm assuming that btrfs will be the
> standard production fs in a few years.
The big thing that btrfs brings is snapshots and subvolumes... So it
makes it possible to do atomic upgrades and such. Also, you can have
"apps" be subvolumes and also handled atomically.
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27;s well published plan for world domination is to use systemd as
a session manager, so it would replace gnome-session, etc. Lennart &
friends are currently pushing kernel patches to make it fully recursive
(such as being able to re-parent orphaned processes to the session's
systemd instead
On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 20:28 +0200, Fabian Groffen wrote:
> On 06-08-2012 11:16:52 -0700, Olivier Crête wrote:
> > On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 13:56 +0200, Fabian Groffen wrote:
> > > While OpenRC is likely perfectly capable of starting/stopping daemons as
> > > a normal user (
but that doesn't gain you anything.
Refs:
[1] http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/hostnamed
[2] http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/timedated
[3] http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/localed
[4] http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/logind
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> On 08/07/2012 09:00 PM, Olivier Crête wrote:
> > I expect that in the not so long term, systemd will become an essential
> > user-space component of desktop Linux, just like crond, syslog, dbus,
> > udev or glibc. S
On Thu, 2012-08-09 at 13:31 -0500, William Hubbs wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 09, 2012 at 11:12:46AM -0700, Olivier Crête wrote:
> > > Most ideas behind systemd are interesting, their current implementation
> > > is sometimes completely wrong and given the experience with pulseaudio
&
it, don't put OpenRC in the
> > dependency list of baselayout, otherwise it gets pulled in (and
> > sysvinit with it) for all systemd users even if we don't use it at
> > all.
>
> Good idea. While we're at it, please also let's not make
> systemd/u
where cpu and
> platform are determined by use flags.
>
> Should we drop the get_libdir and put them in /usr/lib/grub instead?
> Should I even worry about it?
There really have no reason to be in $(get_libdir) as they're not
compiled for the platform implied by $(get_libdir) !
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thoughts about whether we should keep OpenRC
> support for one or both of these?
The ifplugd author recommends you use NetworkManager for dynamic
networking scenarios.
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On Tue, 2012-09-11 at 20:01 +0200, Luca Barbato wrote:
> On 9/10/12 11:05 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 04:26:10PM -0400, Olivier Crête wrote:
> >> On Mon, 2012-09-10 at 09:48 -0500, William Hubbs wrote:
> >>> In researching this program, I
gt; Do I understand correctly?
>
> No, TV makers and others advertise UPnP as DLNA (digital living network
> appliance) but that actually refers to both port forwarding (eg. used in
> consoles) and to media streaming (eg. PC to TV).
DLNA is actually a subset of UPnP with some
rious gcc internal definitions won't change...
We can always change the eclass and check the GCC version if that
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> > he meant mpg123 (as-is), and/or mpg321 (gpl2), not mpeg123...
> >
> I use alsaplayer to play KDE sounds as it works well with dmix and I
> can keep aRts disabled. All KDE sounds are ogg files and when I play
> them with mpg321, it just exits without producing any
nd install them in a standard location to make building against
> them a bit easier. I'll look into doing this when I next version bump the
> packages.
I still believe we should reserve the regular directory for the real
multilib stuff, otherwise it will be very painful when we decide to
m
Hi,
There have been no release since June 2004, the newer versions have
p.masked since 2004. The older versions doesnt build. They have open
bugs #62182, #88929 and #101581.
I'll remove them on November 1st.
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ay they intend it to use it. Read the man
page. Otherwise yea it will crash.
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Hi,
I haven't updated it in years and no one has noticed. I guess no one
uses it. And I don't use it anymore either. Bug #67273 has been there
for a long time.
It is p.masked and will be removed on Nov 16 2006.
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> Petteri Räty wrote:
> > So please give dirtyepic the usual warm welcome.
>
> Welcome Ryan, always nice to have another Canadian :)
Go Canooks!!
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Shouldn't something like this be a Firefox/Seamonkey extension instead ?
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On Tue, 2006-24-10 at 21:57 -0400, Olivier Crête wrote:
> On Fri, 2006-20-10 at 21:08 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I wrote an eselect module for choosing between the browser plugins from
> > net-www/gnash and net-www/netscape-flash, and I was w
On Sat, 2006-04-11 at 16:36 +0100, Christian Heim wrote:
> Its my pleasure to introduce to you Hans de Graaff (also known as
> graaff), our latest addition helping with emacs/xemacs.
Go Emacs! Go Emacs!
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what SPF is supposed to be used for.
That said, I still haven't seen any good explanation how to send mail
through the gentoo.org mailserver for exim or postfix.
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On Sun, 2006-01-10 at 11:08 -0400, Olivier Crête wrote:
> Hi,
>
> There have been no release since June 2004, the newer versions have
> p.masked since 2004. The older versions doesnt build. They have open
> bugs #62182, #88929 and #101581.
>
> I'll remove them on N
too-dev and found it redundant. I think
we should exclude changes to package.mask from that changelog otherwise
it will drown in noise.
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ure, please update
> metadata.xml and CC yourself on the bug.
Its also unmaintained upstream and is showing its age.
Its now masked and will be removed in 30 days if no one comes forward,
and becomes a new quasi-upstream.
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one of 2 or 3. Option 1 is ridiculous. I would
personally opt for 3, since it allows the council to keep on functioning
properly. Or maybe 3 if there is unanimous approuval from the council or
2 otherwise.
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ed Jesus and were single-handedly
> responsible for the extinction of the dinosaurs. Would that make you
> happy?
Are you implying that he is the One True God ?
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the House of Commons on
> occasion, you'd
> know that those two are contradictory.
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>
> Hahah, yes! - But /which/ House of Commons?!
I believe none of them is a great example of civility... (
o Its a French invasion!
Bienvenu à bord!
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ackages take twice as long to compile as they
> should" issue.
A combination of passing --disable-static to econf and INSTALL_MASK
should do it. That said, having a feature/use flag to enable static
library might not be such a good idea (and disable it on packages where
static libraries are
parate package that will be updated separately, then it
doesn't make sense to put it in the separate package and I support
option 1. Otherwise, if they'll always be together, then just put it in
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same old netscape-flash with no add-ons.
>
> Is this a worthy compromise?
This seems even worse.. I think either having one local use flag in
netscape-flash is probably the best solution.. The second best is to
have all of the use flags and RDEPEND on flash-support if any is
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On Fri, 2007-11-05 at 13:19 -0600, Jim Ramsay wrote:
> Olivier Crête wrote:
> > On Fri, 2007-11-05 at 12:12 -0600, Jim Ramsay wrote:
> > > Josh Saddler wrote:
> > > > Jim Ramsay wrote:
> > > > > I suppose I could also propose:
> > > > >
7;ssl' disabled globally
> - A user sees that netscape-flash now has 'ssl' support, so he/she
> enables 'ssl' just for the netscape-flash ebuild.
> - The ebuild would then install libflashsupport, but do so without
> actually adding ssl support, which would be
do emerge -b or -B .. And
that pkgs built with quickpkg may contain sensitive information.
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edistributable binary packages that reflect
> the live ROOT desirable?
Yes, it is, if you want to redistribute them to trusted parties (like
other computers you own).
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ave quickpkg skip
> CONFIG_PROTECT by default
This will by default create potentially broken packages (since many just
wont work without their CONFIG_PROTECTed files). That's why I suggested
a big fat warning and accepting that we can't protect users against
themselves or against social engineering (aka their own stupidity).
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On Wed, 2007-20-06 at 18:28 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Wednesday 20 June 2007, Olivier Crête wrote:
> > On Wed, 2007-20-06 at 17:19 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > > the use of the binpkg is not an issue, it's the creation ... people
> > > blindly creating
/$arch/include/
> - docs may live /usr/$arch/usr/share/doc/ or just be suppressed.
>
> lu
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> http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero
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On Wed, 2007-04-07 at 22:11 +1000, Paul de Vrieze wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 01:12:02 Olivier Crête wrote:
> > On Fri, 2007-29-06 at 09:30 +0200, Luca Barbato wrote:
> > > Paul de Vrieze wrote:
> > > > There are various problems that need to be addressed for
tion the
> gentoo-project list will be created to take over what -dev frequently becomes.
> there is no requirement to be on this new list.
What are the proposed guidelines for the different between -project and
-dev? What goes where?
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it.. Except for silc and
zephyr (which may or may not work very well) and should probably stay
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On Fri, 2007-20-07 at 00:57 +0100, Olivier Crête wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-19-07 at 15:22 -0700, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> > On Thu, 2007-07-19 at 16:02 -0600, Jim Ramsay wrote:
> > > I'm all for doing it now in the profile, but it's not my package.
> > > Perhaps
r dependencies are enabled by default
and have been for a while... The other should really stay off by
default. I don't think adding it them to the profiles is wise..
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modify the script to depend on that interface) and those
that use the network, but don't really need it (like sshd, etc). That
said, I now use networkmanager (to be able to easily select wifi
networks), I don't know how integrated into the whole baselayout-2.
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On Wed, 2007-15-08 at 15:02 +0100, Roy Marples wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-08-15 at 10:09 -0400, Olivier Crête wrote:
> > I believe services that don't bind to a specific address should probably
> > only depend on net.lo, not net.
>
> Well, they can actually depend on a speci
just install xcb alongside regular Xlib ? If we can't, I would
favor making xcb the default. Its significantly better than the old
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d or just exclude it with
> an ewarn only?
With bindist, you should just disable any non-distributable feature and
print a ewarn.. Dieing is not nice since its used to build the stages,
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On Sat, 2007-13-01 at 15:39 -0500, Olivier Crête wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-09-01 at 09:35 +0100, Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen wrote:
> > net-im/centericq is without an ebuild maintainer and has an open security
> > bug
> > #160793
> >
> > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_
this really required? It pushes the real content even farther down
the window. Or if you really want to keep it for new users, please allow
us to disable that.
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me versions that
depend on virtual/editor actually hardcode nano as the default.
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Two days ago, I removed the beta versions of gaim 2.x, gaim-libnotify
depended on it. It has never been So it has been removed from the tree.
It is now called x11-plugins/pidgin-libnotify.
The rest of gaim will soon follow
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# There is now a better version include in gnome-base/gnome-keyring
sys-auth/pam_keyring
It will be gone in one month.
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lugins/gaim-slashexec
x11-plugins/gaim-xfire
x11-plugins/gaimosd
x11-plugins/ignorance
x11-themes/gaim-smileys
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;t see the problem with AMD64, why it would be more wrong
than ia32 or x86 (based on Intel's product numbers!). AMD64 was invented
by AMD and they get to pick the name for it. The keyword amd64 in Gentoo
when Intel was still dismissing AMD64...
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> > Just prevent people from making python invoke 3.x and everything will
> > be fine.
>
> Isn't ~arch supposed to be for testing? Isn't that the point of having
> ~arch?
~arch is for testing ebuilds, not the upstream package
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always for
everyone. Due to the direction in which GNOME is heading, it will be
required by the core desktop anyway.
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> Bindings is a common enough term in use flag descriptions, etc, that users
> should at least have an idea what it means. Introspection? Not so much.
It's not the bindings... It's introspection data that describes the API.
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e lots
of other files you dont absolutely need too. Maybe you should start
filing bugs against every package that install these tiny files you
don't need! All those wasted inodes!
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ntoo-x86.
> >
>
> We could abuse git-note
Or you could review the changes before pushing (since in git these
operations are separate). And live with the consequences of your
mistakes!
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On Fri, 2010-06-25 at 13:00 +0400, Peter Volkov wrote:
> В Птн, 25/06/2010 в 14:19 +0530, Arun Raghavan пишет:
> > On 25 June 2010 14:15, Peter Volkov wrote:
> > > В Чтв, 24/06/2010 в 16:43 -0400, Olivier Crête пишет:
> > [...]
> > >> Or you could review the
stable keyword on all dependencies too so
as to not drop break the tree for them.
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On Sun, 2010-06-27 at 18:54 +0300, Markos Chandras wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 11:47:49AM -0400, Olivier Crête wrote:
> > On Sun, 2010-06-27 at 18:04 +0300, Markos Chandras wrote:
> > > Moreover, slow arches introduce another problem as well. If a package is
> > &g
stemD, PolicyKit, NetworkManager, etc. Anyone with half a
brain already dropped our stuff. And the lack of use of modern tools is
the reason I don't use Gentoo on my work computer anymore.
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; their init scripts are not exactly compatible with what we do).
Other distributions are going one step further and are going for
shell-free boot. We should follow that lead.
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