On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 18:19 +, Stephen Bennett wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:59:49 +0100
> Patrick Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > (and this is valid for all emails to technical lists,)
> > please save us some time and many emails by stating what is w
On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 17:38 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> Sheesh, you'll probably claim that this isn't broken next too:
>
> if [ "${IS_UPGRADE}" = "1" ] ; then
> einfo "Removing old version ${REMOVE_PKG}"
>
> emerge -C "${REMOVE_PKG}"
> fi
Ciaran,
(and this is valid for
On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 15:42 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:26:37 +0100 Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | If you can't do any better, then please apologize for your conduct
> | and false claims and shut up... TIA.
>
> Sure I can do better. But you didn't originally as
On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 14:52 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 10:38:17 +0100 Jakub Moc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | You still haven't posted posted a *single example* of webapp-config
> | brokeness. You, I'd say you should either back up claims about "all
> | the ways in which w
On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 13:50 +0100, Lars Weiler wrote:
> * Patrick Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [06/02/28 11:58 +0100]:
> > Enabling the unicode useflag in the profiles should help our
> > international users and should not cause any problems. Are there any
> > known bugs /
On Tue, 2006-02-28 at 12:32 +0100, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
> On Tuesday 28 February 2006 11:58, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> > During that discussion we realized that having utf-8 not enabled by
> > default and no utf8 fonts available by default causes lots
Hi all,
at FOSDEM we had a nice discussion about languages, translations etc.
Having people from the US (wolf31o2) who never have problems and people
from Japan (usata) who always have problems with encodings /
charsets / ... was quite interesting.
During that discussion we realized that having u
Hi all,
as you might have read in the GWN already we're going to be present at
FOSDEM [1] in Brussels next weekend, February 25 and 26. Sunday will
feature some talks by devs in our own devroom, Saturday will be limited
to a small booth as there aren't enough devrooms.
The talks [2] include topic
On Sun, 2006-02-12 at 18:22 +0100, Michael Hanselmann wrote:
> Hello
>
> For an ebuild I'm working on, I need a function to test wether a number
> is a prime number. For that, I wrote an Eclass you find attached to this
> e-mail. Can this be commited?
In what range do you need the random numbers?
On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 19:53 +0900, Kalin KOZHUHAROV wrote:
> > Make this distributed tool for tar zip bzip2 and gzip and I'm in, I
> > don't think it would be useful with anything else than Gigabit Ethernet.
One 2Ghz CPU can't even saturate a 100Mbit line with bzip2 as far as I
can tell.
Although t
On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 23:23 -0500, Philip Webb wrote:
> After reading -- quickly -- this thread for a day or two,
> to see what Gentoo devs are thinking, I'm surprised
> anyone has been taking this rubbish seriously enough to reply at length.
> The final line suggests the writer has no serious inte
On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 16:33 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 17:20:09 +0100 Patrick Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> | It's getting more and more difficult to get things done, more and
> | more people / groups / herds to wait on to decide "obvi
On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 16:41 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 17:28:13 +0100 Grobian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | I'm thinking of quite dull news, so absolutely not meant to be a
> | publication like GWN, but just thingis like some commits on the
> | portage sources that say to f
On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 09:42 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
> Chris Gianelloni wrote:
>
> > Really, I don't have any vision for Gentoo and I like it that way.
> Amazing words to come from Gentoo's release manager. We might as well
> call our releases 'maintenance updates' then if thats the case.
I
Hi all,
as the debate about the future direction of Gentoo continues it's
getting more and more obvious to me that there's a lack of information
skewing the debate. It seems that while most devs (and users) have a
good idea what's happening in "their" projects it's quite difficult to
see what is h
On Wed, 2006-01-04 at 09:13 -0800, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 05:45:22PM +0100, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> > Now I'm wondering - is there a sane way of handling this that doesn't
> > forcefully remove python 2.4?
> > e.g. could python modules
On Wed, 2006-01-04 at 09:04 -0800, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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>
> Patrick Lauer wrote:
> | Hi all,
> |
> | I recently ran into an interesting problem:
> |
> | One app I have seems to trigger a bug in Python 2.4, so I want to
Hi all,
I recently ran into an interesting problem:
One app I have seems to trigger a bug in Python 2.4, so I want to use it
with Python 2.3
But, as it imports a few python modules I can't use it - the modules
only get installed to the most recent Python version.
From a portage dependency p.o.v
On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 15:03 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
> > Lance mentioned something about what he sees is a niche where Gentoo
> > does quite well. "Produce the best software distribution, ever" sounds
> > a bit vague to me. That's why I agree with Lance for now. Maybe after
> > a little res
On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 20:49 +0100, Grobian wrote:
> On 02-01-2006 20:03:54 +0100, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> > On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 12:50 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
> > > I guess I'm almost hinting at that Gentoo needs a single entity that's
> > > sole purpo
Hi all,
I'm wondering if there is an easy way to get a keyring with all
developer gpg keys pushed to users.
I know that carpaski had at one point put such a keyring online, but it
hasn't been maintained.
So right now you'd have to go through the website (fetch the keys from
the roll-call page ...
On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 12:50 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
> A mission statement only goes so far. The underlying leadership has to
> make sure that statement is upheld and kept alive. Too many folks have a
> mission statement, but no one ever remembers what it is or abides by it.
I guess there isn'
On Mon, 2005-12-19 at 21:23 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 22:17:56 +0100 Patrick Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> | I've only tried svn with the cvs2svn script.
> | Importing with history took ~8h on a 500Mhz box (which surprised me
> | because
On Mon, 2005-12-19 at 11:44 -0800, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I know some of you have done research on how gentoo-x86 converts over to
> other systems besides CVS such as SVN, arch, etc. But I can't find the
> info anywhere in my archives.
>
> Could whoever's got it, post it?
>
> I'm p
On Sun, 2005-12-18 at 09:57 -0500, Philip Webb wrote:
> > You are encouraged to reply to this thread
> > saying "I agree with ciaranm
> > that repository IDs should not be allowed to contain spaces".
>
> No problem at all there (smile): spaces in names are A Bad Thing for Unix,
> as they conflict
On Thu, 2005-12-15 at 14:43 +0100, Francesco Riosa wrote:
> having more than one disk or a lot of memory add very interesting
> addition, read raid 0 (stripe) or tmpfs for working data that does'nt
> need a backup fex: $PORTIR, /var/tmp ...
tmpfs has miserable performance when larger than RAM iirc
On Thu, 2005-12-15 at 07:43 -0700, Duncan wrote:
> > I was wondering if there are any sane ways to optimize the performance
> > of a Gentoo system.
> This really belongs on user, or perhaps on the appropriate purposed list,
> desktop or hardened or whatever, not on devel. That said, some
> comment
Hi all,
I was wondering if there are any sane ways to optimize the performance
of a Gentoo system.
Overoptimization (the well known "-O9 -fomgomg" CFLAGS etc.) tends to
make things unstable, which is of course not what we want. The "easy"
way out would be buying faster hardware, but that is usuall
On Mon, 2005-11-28 at 17:54 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 10:48:01 +0100 Henrik Brix Andersen
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | A friend of mine just alerted me to the fact, that I am featured in
> | this weeks Gentoo Weekly News. Odd, I thought, noone had asked me
> | anything
On Fri, 2005-11-25 at 12:14 +, kang wrote:
> Now people can also use NCSA Mosaic. It's valid as long as you can run
> it. But a browser with vulns, unsupported by the vendor, with a broken
> CSS, I think you do not have to support it. Well of course, if you like
> it just do it ;)
Hmmm.. I thin
On Mon, 2005-10-03 at 19:39 +0200, Jan Kundrát wrote:
> Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 23:15:37 +0900 Georgi Georgiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > | Does it seem like it is time for RESTRICT=interactive. Such ebuilds
> > | would refuse to emerge if stdout is not a tty. If only ther
On Sun, 2005-09-18 at 17:10 -0500, Albert Hopkins wrote:
> I have a different solution that should, no doubt, satisfy both sides:
>
> We fork Gentoo. Create a new distro, called GenOne.
That has been done, it has become sentient and applied for developer
status.
You can reach it at [EMAIL PROTECT
On Fri, 2005-09-16 at 22:34 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > There is a difference between using package.mask and ~arch for
> > ebuilds. The use of ~arch denotes an ebuild requires testing. The use
> > of package.mask denotes that the application or library itself is
> > deemed unstable.
> | Secon
On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 17:01 +0300, Ivan Yosifov wrote:
> On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 14:52 +0100, Daniel Drake wrote:
> > are running vesafb-tng and have >=1GB RAM then try
> > turning off vesafb-tng
>
> Why ?
Because of known bugs I'd guess?
--
Stand still, and let the rest of the universe move
si
On Mon, 2005-09-12 at 15:53 -0500, Grant Goodyear wrote:
> Patrick Lauer wrote: [Mon Sep 12 2005, 03:08:53PM CDT]
> > I'd like to see the following items added:
> > glep 15: script repository (working prototype has existed for some time)
> I'm not quite sure what
On Mon, 2005-09-12 at 21:04 +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote:
> Added by Grant Goodyear :
> glep40: Standardizing "arch" keywording across all archs
>
> Added by Brian Harring :
> glep33: Eclass Restructure/Redesign
> glep37: Virtuals Deprecation
>
I'd like to see the following items added:
glep 15: s
On Mon, 2005-08-29 at 11:59 -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> As I understood it, they were implemented to reduce the amount of work
> necessary in maintaining them. As it was back then, it required changes
> to an extremely large number of profiles every time a change was made to
> the default USE
On Sat, 2005-08-20 at 19:42 -0400, Nathan L. Adams wrote:
[snip]
> What I see with Gentoo is this 'cathedral' being built where only those
> folks who have been 'approved' or 'blessed' as being l33t enough are
> allowed to review the code and actually cause a positive change when
> some bug is foun
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 18:13 -0300, Herbert Fischer wrote:
> I see that the USE flags list is very big today but I don't know if
> it's growing too fast. So, I may think that someday Gentoo will need
> some mechanism to facilitate USE flags configuration.
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-002
On Thu, 2005-07-14 at 01:13 -0400, Kristian Benoit wrote:
> What I want is "emerge busybox uclibc vanilla-sources nano". Should
> unpack only the 3 first packages, show me busybox menuconfig, uclibc
> menuconfig and vanilla-sources menuconfig and only then perform the rest
> of the installation as
On Tue, 2005-07-05 at 06:13 +0100, twofourtysix wrote:
> Mostly, I was hoping that all those people who seem more than happy to
> advocate something with *words* would be prepared to back them up with
> *actions*. I think it's a shame that Gentoo is prepared to encourage
> people to pester their po
On Thu, 2005-06-16 at 13:50 -0300, Rafael Espíndola wrote:
> I am using Gentoo to build some small systems. While things like the
> minimal useflag is a joy, the monolithic nature of most gentoo
> packages is a headache.
It depends on your point of view.
Having to install 142 -devel packages just t
On Thu, 2005-06-16 at 11:13 +0200, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
> On Thursday 16 June 2005 10:53, Patrick Lauer wrote:
> > Maybe someone with some scripting skillz could create a list of all
> > "orphaned" packages?
> > (no metadata.xml, no active m
On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 01:41 +0900, Chris White wrote:
> I just saw a bug report flow by for app-admin/mbr and looked for maintainers.
> I found this:
> ChangeLog: 1 manson, 1 woodchip
> from jeeves. Now, I think those people are retired, or I need to get out
> more (or both). So what to do wit
On Wed, 2005-06-15 at 13:18 +0200, Torsten Veller wrote:
> Why do we add a license to the licenses/ dir?
Because there should be an easy way to find licenses?
And you can do "emerge search foo", then read the license and decide
wether you want to install foo.
> And in addition: When should a licen
On Tue, 2005-06-14 at 20:24 +0200, Andrej Kacian wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:49:28 +0900
> Chris White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > on a minor note, I was thinking of maybe a somewhat small comprehensive list
> > of major problems and ways to solve them. I know we do have bugzilla, but
>
Hi all,
the last global status update was in January when most top-level
projects posted a short overview of their progress and their rough
roadmap to the -dev mailinglist. I'd like to ask all top-level projects
(and all subprojects that want to) to present a short overview of what
happened since
On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 08:59 -0700, Jim Northrup wrote:
> might I suggest not kicking #gentoo-dev visitors who ask for voice to
> speak to the devs without a 'rtfm & go get a gentoo job' smokescreen ?
I hope this was only a misunderstanding / miscommunication.
#g-dev is already quite crowded and not
On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 18:12 +0200, Sebastian Bergmann wrote:
> Daniel Drake wrote:
> > We are using dev.gentoo.org to collect ballots this year. The
> > procedure is as follows:
> >
> > $ votify --new metastructure2005
>
> Where do I get votify from?
ssh dev.gentoo.org
:-)
--
Stand still,
On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 16:22 +0100, Paul Waring wrote:
> On 6/8/05, Daniel Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Polls are open for the metastructure reform vote. All Gentoo developers
> > are
> > eligible to vote.
>
> Any particular reason why Gentoo users are not allowed to have a say?
Because
On Wed, 2005-05-11 at 23:58 +0100, Stroller wrote:
> On May 11, 2005, at 8:10 pm, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> >
> > * Unique ID strings for packages, zynot style. Messy as hell though,
> > DEPEND="foo/bar {12379812AD7382164BD87678652438FC65E43A2}" doesn't have
> > the same kind of ring to it...
>
> M
On Sun, 2005-04-10 at 14:35 -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> Thanks for bringing this up, I was going to do so this week. I can get
> the cvs data out of the bk tree, if we want to move it anywhere else, so
> we will not loose the history (if that's an issue.) But we need to get
> moved off of bkbits.net
On Sun, 2005-04-10 at 18:12 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 12:39:45 -0400 Aaron Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> | Regarding GLEP 36[1], solar has asked me to try and figure out a way
> | to provide both CVS and Subversion for one repository and keep them
> | sync'd someho
On Sat, 2005-04-09 at 18:56 +0800, Dulmandakh Sukhbaatar wrote:
> Mongolian keyboard layout won't work on Gentoo.
How does it not work?
Please give more information when describing problems, like "keyboard
layou does not work with xorg-6.8.2" or "extra characters don't work in
Openoffice".
Also, t
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