[gentoo-user] Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Shaochun Wang
Is Gentoo Weekly Newsletter dead? The most recent update is 15 Oct, 2007. What happened in Gentoo community? -- Shaochun Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
2008/1/11, Shaochun Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is Gentoo Weekly Newsletter dead? The most recent update is 15 Oct, 2007. What happened in Gentoo community? There is currently a discussion on gentoo-dev. It looks like it will be changed to a GMN (Gentoo Monthly Newsletter) due to the lack of

Re[2]: [gentoo-user] VMware Server Tools

2008-01-11 Thread Sergey Kobzar
Hi Peter, Friday, January 11, 2008, 1:47:49 AM, you wrote: On Thursday 10 January 2008, Sergey Kobzar wrote: I can't find vmware-server-tools in layman. Before I used it to install tools: # equery list | grep vmware-server-tools app-emulation/vmware-server-tools-1.0.3.44356 Vmware tools

Re: [gentoo-user] Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Pongracz Istvan
2008. 01. 11, péntek keltezéssel 09.37-kor Daniel Pielmeier ezt írta: 2008/1/11, Shaochun Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is Gentoo Weekly Newsletter dead? The most recent update is 15 Oct, 2007. What happened in Gentoo community? There is currently a discussion on gentoo-dev. It looks like

Re: [gentoo-user] Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Shaochun Wang
On Fri, Jan 11, 2008 at 09:58:16AM +0100, Pongracz Istvan wrote: 2008. 01. 11, p茅ntek keltez茅ssel 09.37-kor Daniel Pielmeier ezt 铆rta: joke Or they will change to GYN (Gentoo Yearly Newsletter) :) /joke Maybe you joke will become the truth. Currently, Gentoo has not

Re: [gentoo-user] Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 11 January 2008, Shaochun Wang wrote: On Fri, Jan 11, 2008 at 09:58:16AM +0100, Pongracz Istvan wrote: 2008. 01. 11, p茅ntek keltez茅ssel 09.37-kor Daniel Pielmeier ezt 铆rta: joke Or they will change to GYN (Gentoo Yearly Newsletter) :) /joke Maybe you joke will

Re: [gentoo-user] Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
2008/1/11, Shaochun Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, Jan 11, 2008 at 09:58:16AM +0100, Pongracz Istvan wrote: 2008. 01. 11, p茅ntek keltez茅ssel 09.37-kor Daniel Pielmeier ezt 铆rta: joke Or they will change to GYN (Gentoo Yearly Newsletter) :) /joke Maybe you joke

[gentoo-user] Re: Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Michael Schmarck
Daniel Pielmeier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gentoo does not need any kind of installation CD. You can use other Live CD's for installing Gentoo if you have hardware which is not supported by the latest Gentoo Release. Absolutely correct! It would be good, though, if them Gentoo folks would

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] stable non-anonymous free http proxy

2008-01-11 Thread Michael Schmarck
Andrew Gaydenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anybody recommend such proxy? Due to routing error between me and a site I'm interested in I can no access the site. Of course, ad-free proxy is better :-) You're looking for something like http://proxy.org/? Michael --

Re: [gentoo-user] Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Galevsky
On Jan 11, 2008 11:19 AM, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 11 January 2008, Galevsky wrote: You can say that devs have no time to make it, but please, don't tell that Gentoo doesn't need any installCD (outdated means no CD at all for many computers nowaday). Please tell me

Re: [gentoo-user] Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Dale
Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Freitag, 11. Januar 2008 schrieb ext Shaochun Wang: Currently, Gentoo has not updated its installation CD for a long time! They don't need to. One week ago I used a GRML cd to install a new Gentoo system. Bye... Dirk Knoppix will work too.

Re: [gentoo-user] Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Freitag, 11. Januar 2008 schrieb ext Shaochun Wang: Currently, Gentoo has not updated its installation CD for a long time! They don't need to. One week ago I used a GRML cd to install a new Gentoo system. Bye... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408

[gentoo-user] Re: Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Michael Schmarck
Shaochun Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe you joke will become the truth. Currently, Gentoo has not updated its installation CD for a long time! Well, actually, I never used a Gentoo install CD to install Gentoo. I also don't quite understand, why anyone would need such a beast. To install

Re: [gentoo-user] Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Galevsky
On Jan 11, 2008 10:38 AM, Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Freitag, 11. Januar 2008 schrieb ext Shaochun Wang: Currently, Gentoo has not updated its installation CD for a long time! They don't need to. One week ago I used a GRML cd to install a new Gentoo system. On Jan 11,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Galevsky
On Jan 11, 2008 11:02 AM, Michael Schmarck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shaochun Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, actually, I never used a Gentoo install CD to install Gentoo. I also don't quite understand, why anyone would need such a beast. To install Gentoo, I'd boot my favorite rescue

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kernel setting for frame buffer (2.6.23-r5)

2008-01-11 Thread Roy Wright
Howdy, emerge sys-libs/lrmi then from a console run: vbetest this will display the video modes your graphics card supports. Note I had differing results running from an xterm, so I suggest running from a console with X stopped. You might want to look at using uvesa:

Re: [gentoo-user] Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Norman Rieß
Galevsky schrieb: On Jan 11, 2008 10:38 AM, Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Freitag, 11. Januar 2008 schrieb ext Shaochun Wang: Currently, Gentoo has not updated its installation CD for a long time! They don't need to. One week ago I used a GRML cd to install a

Re: [gentoo-user] Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
The 2007.1 release has been canceled by the release-engineering-team because of multiple-problems, maybe there will be a 2008.0 release with fresh install-media. Again i recommend join gentoo-dev and you will see what is going on! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Install CD (was: Is GWN dead?)

2008-01-11 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Freitag, 11. Januar 2008 schrieb ext Michael Schmarck: It would be good, though, if them Gentoo folks would point to other Live CDs (like GRML or whatever) on the appropriate places. They do. The Alternative Installation Guide is mentioned and linked in the Gentoo Handbook, Chapter 1.

Re: [gentoo-user] Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 11 January 2008, Galevsky wrote: You can say that devs have no time to make it, but please, don't tell that Gentoo doesn't need any installCD (outdated means no CD at all for many computers nowaday). Please tell me where I said any such thing. I'll give you a clue - I didn't. I

Re: [gentoo-user] Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 11 January 2008, Galevsky wrote: You can say that devs have no time to make it, but please, don't tell that Gentoo doesn't need any installCD (outdated means no CD at all for many computers nowaday). Please tell me where I said any such thing. I'll

Re: [gentoo-user] Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Galevsky
On Jan 11, 2008 11:30 AM, Daniel Pielmeier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The 2007.1 release has been canceled by the release-engineering-team because of multiple-problems, maybe there will be a 2008.0 release with fresh install-media. Again i recommend join gentoo-dev and you will see what is

[gentoo-user] Gentoo Install CD : was Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Philip Webb
080111 Michael Schmarck wrote: Shaochun Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Currently, Gentoo has not updated its installation CD for a long time! Well, actually, I never used a Gentoo install CD to install Gentoo. I also don't quite understand, why anyone would need such a beast. To install

Re: [gentoo-user] Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Pongracz Istvan
I'm back :) Anyway, I create some install cds for my own and I put it to my website for others. 15 downloads registered. (~8GB transfer for the latest) I also create a fresh stage3 for my usage (just for fun, etc.) and I also put it to my site. 3.6GB downloaded (more than 30). So, it is possible

Re: [gentoo-user] Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 11 January 2008, Galevsky wrote: Sorry if I were rude with you Alan, it was not my intentions, plus I mixed up you question with the affirmation no need to update. No problem. Part of the fun of gentoo is you get to figure out how it works and you get to hack it yourself. Kinda

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Eddie Mihalow Jr
David Relson wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:02:08 +0100 Michael Schmarck wrote: Shaochun Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe you joke will become the truth. Currently, Gentoo has not updated its installation CD for a long time! Well, actually, I never used a Gentoo install CD to install

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Galevsky
On Jan 11, 2008 2:25 PM, Eddie Mihalow Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote You are missing the point of Gentoo then. We are NOT a binary distro (to repeat ad nauseum). If you want that kind of install, please change distros. I do find these other methods of install to be interesting though. Has anyone

[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Michael Schmarck
Galevsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tel me how to install Gentoo in that case. Boot from any Live CD (like GRML) and do the installation from there, in a chroot. Michael -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Qian Qiao
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:09:04 +0100 Galevsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With just sources, you can't do anything. Even when you built your LFS you have to download first you toolchain as binaries, before re-compilation. To compile a compiler.

Re: [gentoo-user] Routing problem ?

2008-01-11 Thread Holla
On Jan 11, 2008 8:44 AM, kashani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Holla wrote: 192.168.1.1 +-+ ++ | |---| Router1 |=ASDL conn | | ++ | | | | | | | |192.168.1.23 +---+ 192.168.2.43 |

Re: [gentoo-user] Ebuilds for additional campaigns for games-strategy/wesnoth

2008-01-11 Thread Joost Roeleveld
Hi, Before I open a bug for this, are ther any such ebuilds? I know they don't exist in portage, but maybe in some overlay I'm not aware of. Thanks... Hi, Correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to remember (from last time I used wesnoth) the additional campaigns can be downloaded and

Re: [gentoo-user] Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Qian Qiao
On Jan 11, 2008 1:46 PM, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's sent multipart, so the pure text can be used alone for users like Qian Qiao. That's how I've set up my kmail (I can view it as html if I wish) To be honest, it's not really a big deal for a list like this. The text is 492

Re: [gentoo-user] Routing problem ?

2008-01-11 Thread YoYo Siska
Holla wrote: Hi, I think I have a routing problem with network shown below (hope my ascii art survives) From PC2, I cannot ping 192.168.1.1 and no internet. Also cannot ping ISP's DNS servers. But there is full connectivity between PC1 and PC2. At PC2, # traceroute 192.168.1.1

Re: [gentoo-user] Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On Jan 11, 2008 11:40 AM, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 11 January 2008, Galevsky wrote: Sorry if I were rude with you Alan, it was not my intentions, plus I mixed up you question with the affirmation no need to update. No problem. Part of the fun of gentoo is you get

Re: [gentoo-user] Ebuilds for additional campaigns for games-strategy/wesnoth

2008-01-11 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Freitag, 11. Januar 2008 schrieb ext Joost Roeleveld: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to remember (from last time I used wesnoth) the additional campaigns can be downloaded and installed from within the game itself and this worked correctly? Yes, but they are stored in the users $HOME,

Re: [gentoo-user] Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 11 January 2008, Dale wrote: Qian Qiao wrote: I'm sorry this goes OT Dale, but unfortunately, my mail client cannot render html messages properly, and I trust a lot of people on the list have the same problem. If would be nice if you can post in plain text, at least in this

Re: [gentoo-user] Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:35:22 -0600, Dale wrote: I have it set to send it text for this domain. Is it not sending in plain text? I have the same settings for other mailing lists as well. You're sending multipart, plain and html, mails. -- Neil Bothwick Stop tagline theft! Copyright your

[gentoo-user] Re: Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Michael Schmarck
Galevsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 11, 2008 10:38 AM, Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Freitag, 11. Januar 2008 schrieb ext Shaochun Wang: Currently, Gentoo has not updated its installation CD for a long time! They don't need to. One week ago I used a GRML cd to install

Re: [gentoo-user] Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Dale
Qian Qiao wrote: I'm sorry this goes OT Dale, but unfortunately, my mail client cannot render html messages properly, and I trust a lot of people on the list have the same problem. If would be nice if you can post in plain text, at least in this list. Thanks I have it set to send it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread David Relson
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:02:08 +0100 Michael Schmarck wrote: Shaochun Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe you joke will become the truth. Currently, Gentoo has not updated its installation CD for a long time! Well, actually, I never used a Gentoo install CD to install Gentoo. I also

[gentoo-user] Ebuilds for additional campaigns for games-strategy/wesnoth

2008-01-11 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Hi, Before I open a bug for this, are ther any such ebuilds? I know they don't exist in portage, but maybe in some overlay I'm not aware of. Thanks... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland

Re: [gentoo-user] Ebuilds for additional campaigns for games-strategy/wesnoth

2008-01-11 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Freitag, 11. Januar 2008, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Hi, Before I open a bug for this, are ther any such ebuilds? I know they don't exist in portage, but maybe in some overlay I'm not aware of. Thanks... Dirk you can't do that because the user generated scenarios/campaigns are

Re: [gentoo-user] Routing problem ?

2008-01-11 Thread Holla
On Jan 11, 2008 10:22 AM, Mike Mazur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Jan 11, 2008 12:14 PM, kashani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Holla wrote: 192.168.1.1 +-+ ++ | |---| Router1 |=ASDL conn | | ++ | |

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On Jan 11, 2008 12:53 PM, Michael Schmarck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Galevsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tel me how to install Gentoo in that case. Boot from any Live CD (like GRML) and do the installation from there, in a chroot. And you can use any storage media to hold the important

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge of ksh93 erroring out.. who can interpret

2008-01-11 Thread reader
Matthias B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:32:46 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm beginning to think I may just drop ksh93. Unfortunately, I've grown quite accustomed to using `print' instead of `echo -e' so I will have to replace that in a couple dozen scripts...

[gentoo-user] External ISDN modem

2008-01-11 Thread Grant
Has anyone used an external ISDN modem with Gentoo? I see there are a couple articles about setting up ISDN but they seem to be for internal cards. This device uses USB, ethernet, or serial. Just wondering if it might be a big task or not. - Grant -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USB Wireless Network Adapter?

2008-01-11 Thread Grant
Yes i emerge it but after i've unmerged it. So probably was added during this install. What install do you think has added it? - Grant Yes i've the same: ls /lib/firmware/rt73.bin /lib/firmware/rt73.bin But i don't remember to setted up it. Well, it wasn't the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 11 January 2008, Qian Qiao wrote: ack to the installation CD issue, undoubtably, having a nice working installation CD for gentoo is desirable, but is it really needed? We are here to do what we are best at. LiveCD creators, Knoppix, for example, are good at creating liveCDs and

Re: [gentoo-user] Routing problem ?

2008-01-11 Thread Holla
On Jan 11, 2008 8:09 PM, YoYo Siska [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: one other thing, if nat doesn't work, some wireless aps (i'm thinking about the 192.168.2.1) need to have correctly set up default gateway etc... they sometimes try to be to smart and I had sometimes problems when the router was

Re: [gentoo-user] Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Qian Qiao
On Jan 11, 2008 10:38 AM, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 11 January 2008, Galevsky wrote: You can say that devs have no time to make it, but please, don't tell that Gentoo doesn't need any installCD (outdated means no CD at all for many computers nowaday).

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install CD : was Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 06:41:09 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: I didn't like the Gnome desktop on the CD wondered why it doesn't use eg Fluxbox, but that's personal taste (smile). I understand they are switching to a lighter desktop for the next release, because GNOME was using too much of the CD

[gentoo-user] Re: Routing problem ?

2008-01-11 Thread reader
Richard Torres [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't understand why 2 routers. Maybe I'm missing something. Unless you have 2 networks that need to be separate only one is needed. If you have a wireless router, use it as a wireless access point and not a router. Which means turn off DHCP on the

Re: [gentoo-user] External ISDN modem

2008-01-11 Thread Richard Torres
I used a 3com ISDN modem for net and voice for a while. It had an ethernet connection and a USB. I used the ethernet port to connect to my gentoo box. It was just easier. - Original Message From: Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gentoo mailing list gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Friday,

[gentoo-user] Re: Update After A Year

2008-01-11 Thread reader
Randy Barlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I will also participate on this thread hijack (but Hal, don't hijack anymore. It makes your mom angry!) I would actually check more than just /etc/pam.d/* if you don't find it there because it's possible for mail servers or web servers to use these

Re: [gentoo-user] Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Friday 11 January 2008, Dale wrote: Qian Qiao wrote: I'm sorry this goes OT Dale, but unfortunately, my mail client cannot render html messages properly, and I trust a lot of people on the list have the same problem. If would be nice if you can post in plain text, at least in this

Re: [gentoo-user] Routing problem ?

2008-01-11 Thread Richard Torres
I don't understand why 2 routers. Maybe I'm missing something. Unless you have 2 networks that need to be separate only one is needed. If you have a wireless router, use it as a wireless access point and not a router. Which means turn off DHCP on the wireless router and don't configure or use

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Eddie Mihalow Jr
YoYo Siska wrote: Eddie Mihalow Jr wrote: Has anyone on this list ever used a PXE boot image to install? well, not exactly a PXE boot image... i had to install gentoo on thinkpad X41T (no cd) some time ago, and I wasn't able to boot from usb directly ( don't really remember why ;) so i

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread YoYo Siska
Eddie Mihalow Jr wrote: Has anyone on this list ever used a PXE boot image to install? well, not exactly a PXE boot image... i had to install gentoo on thinkpad X41T (no cd) some time ago, and I wasn't able to boot from usb directly ( don't really remember why ;) so i dumped the minimal cd on

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Norman Rieß
Michael Schmarck schrieb: · Norman Rieß [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Right, basicly telling people You have to depend on / use other distros to install our OS, cause we are not able to / don´t have time to provide this sounds a little fishy. It makes Gentoo look incomplete. Well, but

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge of ksh93 erroring out.. who can interpret

2008-01-11 Thread reader
Matthias B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:18:44 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you say why you think zsh is better? The bugs. I've hit lots of bash bugs in the past and every version seems to fix some bugs and introduce new ones. I'm tired of adding new workarounds

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge of ksh93 erroring out.. who can interpret

2008-01-11 Thread Matthias B.
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:18:44 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you say why you think zsh is better? The bugs. I've hit lots of bash bugs in the past and every version seems to fix some bugs and introduce new ones. I'm tired of adding new workarounds to my scripts whenever I update bash. MSB

[gentoo-user] x11-drm fails to emerge

2008-01-11 Thread Mick
Can anyone perhaps suggest a fix to allow me to emerge x11-base/x11-drm-20060608: . . . sh ../scripts/create_linux_pci_lists.sh ../shared-core/drm_pciids.txt rm -f linux ln -s . linux make -C /usr/src/linux SUBDIRS=`pwd` DRMSRCDIR=`pwd` modules make[1]:

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo LiveUSB

2008-01-11 Thread Ritesh Kumar
On Jan 11, 2008 3:00 PM, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 11 January 2008, Anthony E. Caudel wrote: 2nd question: I must be dense on this one so someone help me out. Since a USB stick is seen as a hard drive, why can't I do a standard install to it? Is it because until

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo LiveUSB

2008-01-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 11 January 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 11 January 2008, Anthony E. Caudel wrote: 2nd question: I must be dense on this one so someone help me out. Since a USB stick is seen as a hard drive, why can't I do a standard install to it? Is it because until lately they

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo LiveUSB

2008-01-11 Thread bjlockie
On Friday 11 January 2008, Anthony E. Caudel wrote: 2nd question: I must be dense on this one so someone help me out. Since a USB stick is seen as a hard drive, why can't I do a standard install to it? Is it because until lately they haven't been large enough? I'm thinking of using an 8GB

[gentoo-user] KDE4 overlay

2008-01-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
Hi, Anyone know where this overlay disappeared to? alan -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-user] Re: Routing problem ?

2008-01-11 Thread reader
Holla [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Jan 11, 2008 8:09 PM, YoYo Siska [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: one other thing, if nat doesn't work, some wireless aps (i'm thinking about the 192.168.2.1) need to have correctly set up default gateway etc... they sometimes try to be to smart and I had sometimes

Re: [gentoo-user] External ISDN modem

2008-01-11 Thread Neil Walker
Grant wrote: Has anyone used an external ISDN modem with Gentoo? Yep. I used USR Courier IModems (both internal and external) to run a BBS for a few years. Originally, I used OS/2 but I switched to Gentoo Linux eventually. I see there are a couple articles about setting up ISDN but they

[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Michael Schmarck
· Galevsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Jan 11, 2008 11:02 AM, Michael Schmarck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] As far as I'm concerned, the Gentoo install CD could easily be dropped without a loss. Michael I'll try to make you understand it. After reading your reply, I've got to say that

[gentoo-user] Re: Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Michael Schmarck
· Norman Rieß [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Right, basicly telling people You have to depend on / use other distros to install our OS, cause we are not able to / don´t have time to provide this sounds a little fishy. It makes Gentoo look incomplete. Well, but providing outdated (ie. non-usable for new

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Eddie Mihalow Jr
Galevsky wrote: On Jan 11, 2008 2:25 PM, Eddie Mihalow Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote You are missing the point of Gentoo then. We are NOT a binary distro (to repeat ad nauseum). If you want that kind of install, please change distros. I do find these other methods of install to be interesting

[gentoo-user] gentoo-dev

2008-01-11 Thread Marzan, Richard non Unisys
I would have looked this up myself but I'm not able to access the net at this time. But may I have the proper steps to register to the gentoo-dev ml? Thank you! Regards, Richard -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-user] Gentoo LiveUSB

2008-01-11 Thread Anthony E. Caudel
I've been looking at LiveUSB's lately, specifically ones for Gentoo. Found one on the Gentoo Documentation and another on Pendrive and several others. Problem is that all of these do not allow you to save changes. Has anyone made a persistent Gentoo LiveUSB? Google hasn't helped here. Most

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo LiveUSB

2008-01-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 11 January 2008, Anthony E. Caudel wrote: 2nd question:  I must be dense on this one so someone help me out. Since a USB stick is seen as a hard drive, why can't I do a standard install to it?  Is it because until lately they haven't been large enough?  I'm thinking of using an 8GB

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Qian Qiao
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:15:49 -0500 David Relson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used the Gentoo LiveCD when I started with Gentoo in 2006. Prior Linux experience covered 8 or so years with Slackware, RedHat, and Mandrake. The installation was not

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge of ksh93 erroring out.. who can interpret

2008-01-11 Thread Matthias B.
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 12:56:11 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you cite some actual examples of what you are talking about, with enough detail so I can see what you mean? Maybe include one or two of the workarounds you are tired of dealing with? One thing I encountered is this bug echo

Re: [gentoo-user] Routing problem ?

2008-01-11 Thread kashani
Mike Mazur wrote: Router1 needs a route to point back to PC2 so when traffic bound for it comes it, it'll know what to do with it. route add -net 192.168.2.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 gw 192.168.1.23 Also if you want PC2 to access the net, you would need PC1 to be smart enough to route/NAT packets

[gentoo-user] Re: Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Michael Schmarck
· Daniel da Veiga [EMAIL PROTECTED]: CD drive. I believe you can even exchange CDs to use the old install CD while booting from another Depends... With GRML and Knoppix, there's a toram (or something like that) kernel parameter, which copies the CD (in compressed form) to RAM. Only then, you

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-dev

2008-01-11 Thread Jil Larner
Hi, You should send an empty mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marzan, Richard non Unisys a écrit : I would have looked this up myself but I'm not able to access the net at this time. But may I have the proper steps to register to the gentoo-dev ml? Thank you! Regards, Richard --

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Qian Qiao
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hal Martin wrote: I installed Gentoo from inside Ubuntu 6.10 (my previous system) through chroot. This was because I couldn't use a LiveCD as I have an AMD64 based system. Knoppix and many other LiveCDs are 32bit, as that is currently what a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Hal Martin
I installed Gentoo from inside Ubuntu 6.10 (my previous system) through chroot. This was because I couldn't use a LiveCD as I have an AMD64 based system. Knoppix and many other LiveCDs are 32bit, as that is currently what a majority of computers out there are. So, unless you can point me to a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Qian Qiao
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Galevsky wrote: Yes it is. Portage is not included Huh? If are talking about installation, then whether the LiveCD carries portage or not is irrelavent, portage is in the stage tarball you fetch over the internet. you depend on other systems that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Galevsky
On Jan 11, 2008 8:08 PM, Michael Schmarck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GRML ? Knoppix ? other LiveCD ? What for, man ? Oh, quite easy - to install Gentoo. That way, the knowledge of experts in creating live CDs is leveraged. NIH is not a good point of view, if you ask me. Using extra rescue

Re: [gentoo-user] Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 11 January 2008, Dale wrote: Qian Qiao wrote: I'm sorry this goes OT Dale, but unfortunately, my mail client cannot render html messages properly, and I trust a lot of people on the list have the same problem. If would be nice if you can post in plain

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 12 January 2008, Qian Qiao wrote: I mean dealing with Gentoo components versions sounds sensible watching GRML/Knoppix/whatever website for a Gentoo install...surely less. As I said in the thread earlier, do not bind your mind to the idea that you need gentoo to install

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo LiveUSB

2008-01-11 Thread Anthony E. Caudel
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 11 January 2008, Anthony E. Caudel wrote: 2nd question: I must be dense on this one so someone help me out. Since a USB stick is seen as a hard drive, why can't I do a standard install to it? Is it because until lately they haven't been large enough? I'm

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4 overlay

2008-01-11 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Friday 11 January 2008 22:26:34 Alan McKinnon wrote: Anyone know where this overlay disappeared to? It moved to git. Assuming dev-util/git is installed: # layman -f layman -d kde layman -a kde Having said that KDE 4.0.0 should show up as package.mask'ed in gentoo-x86 within a few days.

Re: [gentoo-user] HTML vs. Text messages (WAS: Is GWN dead?)

2008-01-11 Thread Hal Martin
I'll keep that in mind when I am sending email to the list from Thunderbird. I'm also aware that many corporations block HTML mail to lower the risk of a staff member opening up an infected/laced email (generally on a Windows computer) so text emails are more advantageous in that regard. Randy,

Re: [gentoo-user] HTML vs. Text messages (WAS: Is GWN dead?)

2008-01-11 Thread Qian Qiao
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hal Martin wrote: I'll keep that in mind when I am sending email to the list from Thunderbird. I'm also aware that many corporations block HTML mail to lower the risk of a staff member opening up an infected/laced email (generally on a Windows

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Dale
Qian Qiao wrote: SNIP I myself have 3 machines, a Athlon64X2, a Core2 Duo and a Pentium III, I've used Gentoo minimal, Knoppix and Knoppix64 CDs during my installation on these 3 machines and I haven't encounter any problem using any of them, and that's why I said earlier in the thread

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread b.n.
Alan McKinnon ha scritto: Gentoo is NOT plug in and go, it is a complex scheme that allows you to build other distros. Exactly. Moreover, I'd go on to say that the fact Gentoo is installable from almost every reasonable Linux-based live cd is a defining Gentoo feature. The real Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Is GWN dead?

2008-01-11 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On Jan 11, 2008 11:29 PM, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan McKinnon ha scritto: Gentoo is NOT plug in and go, it is a complex scheme that allows you to build other distros. Exactly. Moreover, I'd go on to say that the fact Gentoo is installable from almost every reasonable Linux-based

Re: [gentoo-user] Enigmail in Thunderbird 2.0.0.9

2008-01-11 Thread Daniel Mendler
KH schrieb: Did you recompile enigmail after upgrading thunderbird? kons Daniel Mendler wrote: Hi The enigmail plugin isn't found any more in Thunderbird 2.0.0.9. Thunderbird is compiled with crypt, Enigmail is installed. Does anyone have the same problem? Best regards, Daniel