Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Lowest common denominator compile

2017-09-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
catering for inevitable differences is trivial to handle. With none of the downsides to copying entire tree structures around (like copying way too many files you didn't intend to. Like /var/run...) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Lowest common denominator compile

2017-09-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
ment of a fleet of machines that may or may not be around when you feel like updating something (so it catches up later), and needs only sshd and python to do it's magic :-) Never mind that ansible was written with servers in mind; in terms of management where you do $STUFF_THAT_NEEDS_MANAGING, there is no difference between servers and laptops. A computer is still just a computer. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Read-only access to a git repo

2017-09-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
s: > > http://gitolite.com/gitolite/ > Thanks, I'll give that a try too. I think gitlolite might even be too heavy - push/pull/nothing permissions as per Simon's links sounds good -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Read-only access to a git repo

2017-09-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 04/09/2017 17:20, Simon Thelen wrote: > On 17-09-04 at 17:05, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I fear I have a severe case of too many trees in the way to see the forest. >> >> I have a git server, it only runs git. >> All the sysadmins have full acces

[gentoo-user] Read-only access to a git repo

2017-09-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
in GitHub and Gitlab... I know, my Google-fu sucks today. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Ruby - 3 versions - seriously????

2017-09-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
", and remove all ruby versions from world and let depclean, revdep-rebuild and emerge world take care of the details. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Simplest NTP client for standalone system?

2017-08-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 30/08/2017 13:25, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 09:49:58AM -0700, Rich Freeman wrote >> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 8:32 AM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> Another example is LVM. You or I might really

Re: [gentoo-user] Simplest NTP client for standalone system?

2017-08-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/08/2017 18:49, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 8:32 AM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> Another example is LVM. You or I might really need it (debatable now we >> have ZFS) but the average user has no concept of what it m

Re: [gentoo-user] initial compile time

2017-08-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/08/2017 21:30, Dale wrote: > Mick wrote: >> On Tuesday, 29 August 2017 12:08:12 BST Alan McKinnon wrote: >> PS. Did I mention you would have to do all of the above using a dial-up >> modem, >> which would require off-tree modules, because your PC came with a W

Re: [gentoo-user] initial compile time

2017-08-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/08/2017 18:47, Mick wrote: > On Tuesday, 29 August 2017 12:08:12 BST Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 28/08/2017 22:20, mad.scientist.at.la...@tutanota.com wrote: >>> |it's not so hard yet, just hard to get by reading it in advance, doing >>> >>> it is fairly st

Re: [gentoo-user] processor speed

2017-08-30 Thread Alan Mackenzie
XFCE4 starting in less than a second is also quite gratifying. I built my new box partly because the old one from 2009, though still working, is not going to be working for ever, and the announcement of the Ryzen processors finished the prompting. On this machine, building LO takes around two

Re: [gentoo-user] Why isn't this SDcard mounting?

2017-08-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
hought SD Cards were treated like regular hotpluggable devices like USB storage, but maybe not. I'd be interested to see the results of running partprobe. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Simplest NTP client for standalone system?

2017-08-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/08/2017 15:57, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 9:14 AM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> ntp is designed for timeservers that by design do not make the clock >> jump around. Every second on the wall clock actually happe

Re: [gentoo-user] Simplest NTP client for standalone system?

2017-08-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
it. [1] virtual machines are a whole different topic. I'm assuming you don't have Gentoo in a guest VM. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] initial compile time

2017-08-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
street cred brownie points is what you are after, that's how you get 'em! -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] initial compile time

2017-08-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
cer curse syndrome -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] initial compile time

2017-08-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 28/08/2017 18:47, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 9:08 AM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> On 28/08/2017 13:41, mad.scientist.at.la...@tutanota.com wrote: >>> Ok, i'm starting to understand the install instructions, a steepe

Re: [gentoo-user] initial compile time

2017-08-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
and an MUA etc etc etc. But that's just a guess, could also be anywhere from 1 hour on the low end to 24 on the high end. Or more. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Ryzen seg fault issue fixed

2017-08-27 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Rich. On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 08:23:48 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 7:03 AM, Alan Mackenzie <a...@muc.de> wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 15:46:31 +1000, Adam Carter wrote: > >> FYI, you should be able to return your CPU for a f

Re: [gentoo-user] Ryzen seg fault issue fixed

2017-08-27 Thread Alan Mackenzie
cessor, but I suppose it's got to be done. ;-( Thanks again! -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).

Re: [gentoo-user] Is this working correctly??

2017-08-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 25/08/2017 09:21, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Thursday, August 24, 2017 11:12:52 PM CEST Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 24/08/2017 22:20, J. Roeleveld wrote: >>> On Thursday, August 24, 2017 9:35:23 PM CEST Dale wrote: >>>> Alan McKinnon wrote: >>>>&

Re: [gentoo-user] Is this working correctly??

2017-08-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 24/08/2017 22:20, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Thursday, August 24, 2017 9:35:23 PM CEST Dale wrote: >> Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> On 24/08/2017 18:41, Dale wrote: >>>> J. Roeleveld wrote: >>>>> On 24 August 2017 17:15:25 GMT+02:00, Alan McKinnon > <

Re: [gentoo-user] Is this working correctly??

2017-08-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 24/08/2017 18:41, Dale wrote: > J. Roeleveld wrote: >> On 24 August 2017 17:15:25 GMT+02:00, Alan McKinnon >> <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Thunderbird. >>> >>> I have no formatting or storage problems as local mail is kept i

Re: [gentoo-user] Is this working correctly??

2017-08-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
ve very fond memories of kmail with KDE-3, best MUA I ever used. The rest of KDE's look and feel was pretty sucky tbh, and KDE-4 made huge inroads to fixing that, but kdepim and kmail never recovered from that thing called akonadi. Good idea on paper, never worked in practice. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Is this working correctly??

2017-08-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
from Seamonkey to whatever new program I'm using. When I > switched from Kmail, I was able to do that, can't recall how now. > > Just curious as to my options here. May as well learn some stuff while > we on the topic. ;-) Thunderbird. I have no formatting or storage problems as

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Calculating power consumption of a running program?

2017-08-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
owerTOP and found > it to be reasonably accurate? No not this. PowerTOP was designed to find badly-behaving programs like pidgin that woke up and polled it's queue every 1ms or so. It's not for what you want at all, not even close. > > R0b0t1. > -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Is this working correctly??

2017-08-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 23/08/2017 21:26, Dale wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 23/08/2017 09:03, Thomas Mueller wrote: >>> You (Dale) seem to have corrected the multipart/alternative problem, except >>> one message (Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: downgrading glibc) where >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] Is this working correctly??

2017-08-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
he HTML thing now. We all have high speed internet these days, you can't buy a spinning drive smaller than 1TB anymore and apart from a few holdfasts like decent Mailman lists (eg this one and kernel.org), email is a thing that idiots at work use like it was IM. Most other folks moved on... -- Ala

Re: [gentoo-user] Is this working correctly??

2017-08-23 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 22/08/2017 17:41, Dale wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 22/08/2017 15:01, Dale wrote: >>> Howdy, >>> >>> I have this set to send text only for gentoo.org and kde.org. Someone >>> replied making me think it is not doing as instructed, even tho

Re: [gentoo-user] Is this working correctly??

2017-08-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
ould? Text only I hope. I see 3 problems with your mail, but content-type is not one of them :-) That is set to text only, exactly as you intended -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel 4.12.5 hard lockups, nothing in logs.

2017-08-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
er as 4.11 still works for me. My external monitors and USB keyboard & mouse on laptops stopped working with 4.12 and other silliness which I forget. My techie spidey-sense is telling me it all smells a lot like someone tidied up .config and things moved around, so make oldconfig got confused. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] No beep.

2017-08-16 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Corbin. On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 21:06:56 -0500, Corbin Bird wrote: > On 08/14/2017 01:22 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > Hello, Gentoo. > > I've almost got my new(ish) machine up and running. In particular, I've > > got an email server (s/qmail) running on it, th

Re: [gentoo-user] No beep.

2017-08-16 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Joost. On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 06:38:31 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On 14 August 2017 20:22:54 GMT+02:00, Alan Mackenzie <a...@muc.de> wrote: > >Hello, Gentoo. > >I've almost got my new(ish) machine up and running. In particular, > >I've > >got

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: No beep.

2017-08-16 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Nikos. On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 17:02:41 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 14/08/17 21:22, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > However, during the building, I discovered to my disgust that there was > > no loudspeaker in my new case. > You sure? These days, it's not shaped like

Re: [gentoo-user] kernel linux-4.12.5-gentoo & virtualbox-modules-5.0.40

2017-08-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
day, try again. Repeat. It can take a sort wait between a change to the kernel and when the virtualbox fellows notice the change and fix it. nvidia drivers and most other out-of-tree drivers are all in the same boat. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Install on ZFS

2017-08-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
fs merging but it's probably easier to use a medium that already has everything you want -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

[gentoo-user] No beep.

2017-08-14 Thread Alan Mackenzie
and CONFIG_SND_HDA_INPUT_BEEP_MODE set to 1. My loudspeakers are working, as shown by running speaker-test. I'm using the kernel I think I am, verified by checking those two config settings in /proc/config.gz. Would somebody please suggest to me where I am going wrong, here? Thanks! -- Alan Mackenzie

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dev-python/whoosh fails to compile

2017-08-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 09/08/2017 08:35, John Covici wrote: > On Wed, 09 Aug 2017 00:06:08 -0400, > Ian Zimmerman wrote: >> >> On 2017-07-29 11:23, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >>> On 29/07/2017 10:51, John Covici wrote: >>>> Hi. In my latest world update, portage wants to in

Re: [gentoo-user] Issues updating world on new install (gmp symptom)

2017-08-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
-O2 -pipe" CPPFLAGS="" CXX="x86_64-pc-linux-gnux32-g++" CXXFLAGS="-march=native -O2 -pipe" MPN_PATH=" x86_64/k8 x86_64 generic" emerge output above says ABI_X86="x32" is switched OFF. You need to switch it on. ABI_X86 config is covered in detail at wiki.gentoo.org. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: chromium 60 build failure

2017-08-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
> out which version of GCC one is "expected to be on"? > Any version of gcc that is at least version 5 . ? So if you use say version 4 then you are not using an expected version If you use version eleventy one then you are -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Removing unnecessary software.

2017-07-31 Thread Alan McKinnon
age doesn't have mixins (that's how you'd best implement user-selectable @systems), and one of them is for certain - no dev has had that itch bad enough yet to want to scratch it. And maybe they just don't feel like dealing with the deluge of complaints and NOTABUGs reported as bugs. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [SOLVED] Postgresql upgrade

2017-07-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/07/2017 17:25, Mick wrote: > On Saturday 29 Jul 2017 17:11:06 Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> Backup the postgres configs and database files, emerge -C all postgres >> versions, make sure there are no files left with postgres in the name, >> and emerge the version back tha

Re: [gentoo-user] Postgresql upgrade

2017-07-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/07/2017 14:27, Mick wrote: > > On 29 July 2017 at 12:19, Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com > <mailto:michaelkintz...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > On 29 July 2017 at 12:03, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com > <mailto:alan.mckin...@gm

Re: [gentoo-user] Postgresql upgrade

2017-07-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/07/2017 14:27, Mick wrote: > > On 29 July 2017 at 12:19, Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com > <mailto:michaelkintz...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > On 29 July 2017 at 12:03, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com > <mailto:alan.mckin...@gm

Re: [gentoo-user] Postgresql upgrade

2017-07-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/07/2017 13:01, Mick wrote: > Right, I would report it, except I can't recall if I ran eselect after > isntalling 9.6. ... I am *almost* sure I did. > > > Meanwhile fix the symlinks to what they should be using "ln -sfn" and > all will be good in the w

Re: [gentoo-user] Postgresql upgrade

2017-07-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
It doesn't run it or set it as default, it only installs it. To run it or set it as default is an extra step that you decide yourself when you want to do it. depcleaning 9.5 removes the default version, so the obvious thing for the code to do is set 9.6 as the new default. Maybe the ebuild does it, maybe it's eselect. Doesn't matter, because something should have removed those stale symlinks and didn't. This is a reportable bug Meanwhile fix the symlinks to what they should be using "ln -sfn" and all will be good in the world. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] dev-python/whoosh fails to compile

2017-07-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
eciated. [snip] > pkg_resources.DistributionNotFound: The 'sphinxcontrib-websupport' > distribution was not found and is required by Sphinx [snip] > * The specific snippet of code: > * sphinx-build -b html -c docs/source/ docs/source/ > docs/source/build/html || die; File a bug at bgo -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] build programs in other distros

2017-07-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
veloper guidelines for Debian and start reading. > I guess that's why "autoconf" "configure" et al exists... But never > tried to learn about them, so perhaps it's time now? No, that's not what those tools are for. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] We have had known workarounds for python:3 and icu in uclibc-ng for a few months but they havent yet been implemented

2017-07-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
this ought to be > enough. > > export > LD_LIBRARY_PATH=${WORKDIR}/icu/source-*/lib:${WORKDIR}/icu/source-*/stubdata > > Both these options wrapped under a if elibc=uclibc-ng obviously. file a bug report at bugs.gentoo.org bug wranglers will ensure it gets to the right people -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] How to remove a package from a profile?

2017-07-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
lled "packages", look at this example from prefix: $ cat ./prefix/linux/packages # Here we remove packages that default/linux/packages pulls in and have # no business being in Gentoo Prefix -*sys-apps/busybox -*sys-apps/util-linux -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

[gentoo-user] Hall of FAIL.

2017-07-09 Thread Alan Grimes
Hey, I'm having some pretty dire FAIL issues with respect to a small but critical collection of packages... tortoise portage # tree -L 2 . ├── dev-libs │ ├── libcdio-0.94-r1 │ └── libcdio-paranoia-0.94_p1-r1 ├── media-libs │ └── opencv-3.1.0-r7 ├── media-video │ ├── ffmpeg-3.3.2 │ ├──

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Copy'n'Paste...but not for all?

2017-06-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
; > Yep: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control-C#In_graphical_environments > > hehe, as I clicked on that link, I thought "I bet the Star workstation did that first (like most everything else)" I see I wasn't wrong. Thanks for that Nikos, you made my day1 -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Copy'n'Paste...but not for all?

2017-06-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
MS Windows. > > Selecting text and then pasting using the middle mouse button doesn't work. > > It seems these are two different clipboards. They are indeed two very different clipboards. Select and paste with middle button is X cut buffers, been around for years. Any app running on the same X server should be able to do the right thing with it. CtrlC/CtrlV is a whole different animal, and that's the one VirtualBox/VMWare et al support. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Kde 5 Latin characters

2017-06-16 Thread Alan Mackenzie
key, etc. I contributed the method of doing this to the Gentoo wiki at <http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout_switching#Enhancing_an_X_keyboard_layout>. It's quite involved, and you have to patch source files to do it. Best of luck! > Thanks. -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).

Re: [gentoo-user] Why is PS1 (the console prompt) different for the root user?

2017-06-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
you and the question you ask :-) Feel free to edit PS1 to be anything you want it to be. The prompt is, after all, purely a convenience to make a human's life easier. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] What gives with all these file collisions?

2017-06-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 02/06/2017 08:23, Alan Grimes wrote: > I'm trying to emptytree my system because GCC update because I need to > reboot because Nvidia-drivers segfaulted and broke a 2-month endurance > run on my new mobo of my number theory code, set to use 15 hyperthreads > and 25gb of ram...

[gentoo-user] What gives with all these file collisions?

2017-06-02 Thread Alan Grimes
I'm trying to emptytree my system because GCC update because I need to reboot because Nvidia-drivers segfaulted and broke a 2-month endurance run on my new mobo of my number theory code, set to use 15 hyperthreads and 25gb of ram... I'm getting lots of package failures due to file collisions and

Re: [gentoo-user] broadcom-sta for my wireless card

2017-05-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
;> >> >> Sounds like it installs kernel modules, so yes, after a new kernel build >> you need to re-emerge all packages that install modules. Easiest way to >> emerge all packages that install kernel modules is: >> >> `emerge -a @module-rebuild` >> >> Dan

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Issues with AMD_IOMMU

2017-05-22 Thread Alan Grimes
Here's the grub command line I was using on my Phenom II on a 990FX board, I had only commented it out after upgrading to Ryzen #GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="check_enable_amd_mmconf amd_iommu=fullflush iommu=soft" -- Strange Game. The only winning move is not to play. Powers are not rights.

Re: [gentoo-user] replacement for ftp?

2017-05-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 03/05/2017 22:04, lee wrote: > Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> writes: > >> On 30/04/2017 03:11, lee wrote: >>> "Poison BL." <poiso...@gmail.com> writes: >>> >>>> On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 3:24 PM, lee <l...@yag

Re: [gentoo-user] Issues with AMD_IOMMU

2017-05-14 Thread Alan Grimes
Adam Carter wrote: > Tried kernels 4.10.13 and 4.11, with > CONFIG_GART_IOMMU=y > CONFIG_IOMMU_HELPER=y > CONFIG_IOMMU_API=y > CONFIG_IOMMU_SUPPORT=y > CONFIG_IOMMU_IOVA=y > CONFIG_AMD_IOMMU=y > CONFIG_AMD_IOMMU_V2=m > Chipset is 990FX, and AFAICT the V2 is for the APU (bdver3 and 4 vintage). > >

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Tux AWOL

2017-05-14 Thread Alan Mackenzie
allegedly has been implemented in 4.11). I see 16 Tuxen at boot up, no problem. Something strange happened when I installed the 4.11.0 sources - all the options were initialised to what they were in my 4.9.16 running kernel. This saved me a lot of time. > thanks > Jorge Almeida -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Horrible English

2017-05-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 12/05/2017 09:37, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On May 11, 2017 11:20:49 AM GMT+02:00, Alan McKinnon > <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 11/05/2017 02:09, Peter Humphrey wrote: >>> On Wednesday 10 May 2017 23:33:37 Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> >>

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Horrible English

2017-05-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 11/05/2017 02:09, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Wednesday 10 May 2017 23:33:37 Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> I you read -dev, you could have replied to the original with a correct >> fix :-) > > No good. I can't read C. I gave up in the '80s and reverted to assembler. >

Re: [gentoo-user] Risks of making traceroute suid root

2017-05-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
let you give them that permission, deftly avoiding questions as to the vuln status of the traceroute binary -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Horrible English

2017-05-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
egally valid for purposes of government with equal status, I had to let go of English bias and accept that languages get mangled. All the time. Except for this new meaning for "revert". can't bring myself to accept that one, too much like gouging out eyeballs with a blunt spoon. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] world rebuild with gcc-6.3.0 - not completely there yet

2017-05-09 Thread Alan Grimes
I've been running some number theory on my CPU 24/7 for the last month... It's a good burn-in because it uses all my cpu and all my ram. =P The run will complete a month from now, I hope... Kinda stoked about gcc 6.x coming, really looking forward to rebuilding my system, hope things go well by

Re: [gentoo-user] How to use logcheck

2017-05-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
anyone succeeded in running logcheck? What's the magic recipe? I see > that app-admin/logcheck is maintainer-wanted, so there's no point in raising > a bug report. > > [1] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Security_Handbook/Logging > -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Receiving syslog entries over network with systemd

2017-05-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
> syslog-ng > gave up. I was able to start it manually after boot though. > You might need to tweak your startup order in conf.d a syslogger normally starts very early in the boot process, before even networking so that it can log network-y errors. A remote syslogger needs to start after networking. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: htop wants cgroups

2017-05-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
ot; and "may", it does not contain "must" and "will" Continuing to emote here is going to accomplish exactly didly-squat and I assure you that it is highly likely nothing will change at all. Submitting a patch to gentoo-dev may accomplish the end you seek. Now, can you please get over yourself so we can move on? We get it, we really do. You don't like the message. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] having unavailable packages installed

2017-04-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
BI_X86="64 > -32 -x32") > Startseite: http://www.gtkmm.org > Beschreibung: C++ interface for glib2 > > > 2.50.1(2) appears to be installed but is not available. > > it was available you installed it then it went out of portage you still have it installed portage has yet to find a good reason to upgrade/remove/touch it -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] replacement for ftp?

2017-04-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 30/04/2017 03:11, lee wrote: > "Poison BL." <poiso...@gmail.com> writes: > >> On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 3:24 PM, lee <l...@yagibdah.de> wrote: >> >>> Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> writes: >>> >>>> On Tuesday 25

Re: [gentoo-user] GCC 5.4.0

2017-04-29 Thread Alan Grimes
Dale wrote: > Dale wrote: > > This is something I have noticed that changed since the gcc upgrade. > One, Firefox seems to use less memory. It's not a whole lot less but it > is less for sure. It also uses a lot less CPU power. Used to if I had > two or three Firefox profiles running, I could

[gentoo-user] Pseudo first impressions

2017-04-29 Thread Alan Mackenzie
ake by Gentoo's quality control. I know none of you get paid for it, and you all do it for love. I admit I probably wouldn't have done the job much better myself. But for Gentoo's sake, something needs to get better. -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).

Re: [gentoo-user] New AMD hardware. Still can't boot [FIXED].

2017-04-29 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Gentoo. On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 11:56:35 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 20:16:37 +, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > Have you tried connecting using ssh after boot? > > Also, do you have the EFI console support in your kernel? > I didn't, b

Re: [gentoo-user] New AMD hardware. Still can't boot (but making progress).

2017-04-29 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Joost. On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 20:16:37 +, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On April 28, 2017 9:51:07 PM GMT+02:00, Alan Mackenzie <a...@muc.de> wrote: > >In the end, I went with grub2, and it has taken a lot of effort to get > >not very far. Grub's documentation is subo

Re: [gentoo-user] New AMD hardware. Still can't boot (but making progress).

2017-04-28 Thread Alan Mackenzie
=btrfs init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd echo "just loaded kernel" boot #echo "Loading initramfs..." #initrd /initramfs-4.7.2.img } # > -- > Regards, > Mick -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).

Re: [gentoo-user] replacement for ftp?

2017-04-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
ftp? Or, put another way, why do you feel you need to use something else? There's always dropbox -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] New AMD hardware. Can't boot.

2017-04-24 Thread Alan Mackenzie
s to boot Gentoo Linux, not go through all the machinations required by grub. I think I'll look at bootctl. It's looks far more likely to give me what I want than grub2. Does it cope OK with mdadm RAID setups? > * An advantage of buying a newfangled system ready built. > -- > Regards > Peter -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage wants to depclean my xorg video driver

2017-04-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
Meta package containing deps on all xorg drivers > > > Cheers. > The ebuild's DEPEND: video_cards_i915? ( x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel ) video_cards_i965? ( >=x11-base/xorg-server-${PV}[glamor] ) video_cards_intel? ( !video_cards_i965? ( x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel ) ) So remove i965 from VIDEO_CARDS. "intel" will suffice. Do you have xorg-server built with USE=glamor ? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] konqueror:5 - why couldn't it be more like konqueror:3 ?!!

2017-04-20 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 20/04/2017 21:22, R0b0t1 wrote: And to everyone: KDE-5 doesn't exist, what you are probably referring to is Plasma 5. yes you are completely correct. But old habits die hard, and for me KDE has always been KDE- :-) I blame it on an old brain where most of the neurons stopped working

Re: [gentoo-user] New AMD hardware. Can't boot.

2017-04-20 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Mick. On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 20:11:33 +0100, Mick wrote: > On Thursday 20 Apr 2017 18:26:43 Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > Hello, Gentoo. > > The saga of my new AMD Ryzen machine: I've installed Gentoo onto > > (mdadam) RAID-1 on two MVMe Samsung 960 EVO M.2 SS

Re: [gentoo-user] New AMD hardware. Can't boot.

2017-04-20 Thread Alan Mackenzie
he drives with MBR, and trying to boot that way help, for example? I really don't want to do that, though, though if it's the only way to get my machine booting, I'd do it. -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).

Re: [gentoo-user] konqueror:5 - why couldn't it be more like konqueror:3 ?!!

2017-04-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
ion that mattered was not being able to repeatedly split panes in half vertically or horizontally; Dolphin gives you just two panes, side by side. So I started opening more tabs to get more panes :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Where is gmplayer?

2017-04-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
gram are you looking for? > > It is mentioned in "man mplayer". It's the graphical user > inferface. I thought that particular binary was abandoned *years* ago by mplayer - it was unmaintained? Looks like cruft is left in the man page -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] kioslaves - an end of an era?

2017-04-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
te I had to remove manually kde-misc/kio-ftps because it was > holding on to the old konqueror:4. Does this mean KDE kioslaves are of no > use > anymore? > I believe the new kioslave-like functionality has been replaced with kde-frameworks/kio kde-apps/kio-extras -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] mysql-workbench

2017-04-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
iro-1.10:=[X] required by > (net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.4.11-r200:2/2::gentoo, installed) > > > Is there a good way to get mysql-workbench installed without removing > the other packages? Find what you are installing exactly then take it from there -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] trusting perl-cleaner

2017-04-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
ecide what to d on a case by case basis. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] New AMD hardware.

2017-04-15 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Mick. On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 22:46:14 +0100, Mick wrote: > On Monday 10 Apr 2017 21:24:21 Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > Another idea I've had is that I've got duff RAM. The various bootable > > images that crash don't always crash in _exactly_ the same places. And >

Re: [gentoo-user] New AMD hardware. [Was: Nvidia Drivers. =(]

2017-04-15 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Alan. On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 21:12:44 -0400, Alan Grimes wrote: > On these new mobos, it's important to update the BIOS as soon as > possible. I DL'd a Bios with my 'doze 7 machine first thing and flashed > it. The original bios I had was version 418 from February, the new one

Re: [gentoo-user] gkrellm [Was: Something eats my memory - please help]

2017-04-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
ave mentioned that. Perhaps I assumed that everyone who uses > gkrellm also uses its themes. Mea culpa. > heh. I have all the themes installed and never used them :-) I try various ones out from time to time and always go back to the default... -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] New AMD hardware. [Was: Nvidia Drivers. =(]

2017-04-10 Thread Alan Grimes
anything else is attempted with the system. Alan Mackenzie wrote: > >> He [Alan Grimes] has new hardware (Ryzen) that needs 4.10 for proper support. > I too have new hardware (An Asus Prime X370-PRO MB with a Ryzen 1700X > processor), indeed so new that my first attempt to boot a minima

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Something eats my memory - please help

2017-04-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
and I use them all the time when troubleshooting. But not for regular use - nothing beats flicking my eye over to the left edge and looking for biggish blobs of cyan and amber :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] New AMD hardware.

2017-04-10 Thread Alan Mackenzie
On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 21:23:18 +0100, Mick wrote: > On Monday 10 Apr 2017 19:07:49 Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > I too have new hardware (An Asus Prime X370-PRO MB with a Ryzen 1700X > > processor), indeed so new that my first attempt to boot a minimal CD was > >

[gentoo-user] New AMD hardware. [Was: Nvidia Drivers. =(]

2017-04-10 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Daniel. On Fri, Apr 07, 2017 at 08:48:22 -0700, Daniel Frey wrote: > On 04/06/2017 10:03 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > On 04/05/2017 05:15 PM, Alan Grimes wrote: > >> I'm still running on my old kernel as I re-build my system, Nvidia > >> drivers just barf

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Something eats my memory - please help

2017-04-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
though. Lilac just ain't my hting -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] bitcoin-qt, openssl and the bindist USE flag

2017-04-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
Set that flag in package.use for the packages where you want it to be set. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Something eats my memory - please help

2017-04-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
un top and sort on the memory columns (just take the left-most memory-related column with a big bag of salt, it doesn't show what people usually think). Then correlate that with packages you recently updated. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia Drivers. =(

2017-04-05 Thread Alan Grimes
g ...Done applying user patches" > > > Il mer 5 apr 2017, 17:40 Alan Grimes <alonz...@verizon.net > <mailto:alonz...@verizon.net>> ha scritto: > > Looks like a good patch but can you link to instructions for applying > this patch? > > > Fabio

Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia Drivers. =(

2017-04-05 Thread Alan Grimes
Looks like a good patch but can you link to instructions for applying this patch? Fabio Scaccabarozzi wrote: > > Hi Alan, > > That is expected with 4.10 kernels. > You can grab a patch from my /etc/portage repository: > https://github.com/fsvm88/gentoo-portage_etc/blob/master/p

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