Re: [gentoo-user] Paralell process in Bash

2005-11-07 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Tue, 2005-11-08 at 02:58 -0200, Rafael Barreto wrote: > Is there any form to create a child process in a bash-script? I > mean... I would like to have a script that use many background process > to do some paralell things. I know that I could use & after a code > block, but, in this way, when I

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I restore Evolution Mail?

2005-11-07 Thread Richard Watson
On Tue, 2005-11-08 at 06:50 +0100, Heinz Sporn wrote: > Am Dienstag, den 08.11.2005, 13:24 +1000 schrieb Richard Watson: > > Hi, > > > > I need to migrate my Gnome Evolution mail to a new PC I've just got. I > > tried copying everything from the .evolution folder into the new > > machine .evolut

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I restore Evolution Mail?

2005-11-07 Thread Heinz Sporn
Am Dienstag, den 08.11.2005, 13:24 +1000 schrieb Richard Watson: > Hi, > > I need to migrate my Gnome Evolution mail to a new PC I've just got. I > tried copying everything from the .evolution folder into the new > machine .evolution folder but the results are very eratic with only some > of my ma

[gentoo-user] Paralell process in Bash

2005-11-07 Thread Rafael Barreto
Is there any form to create a child process in a bash-script? I mean... I would like to have a script that use many background process to do some paralell things. I know that I could use & after a code block, but, in this way, when I kill the main script, their childs are alive yet. They don't die

[gentoo-user] How do I restore Evolution Mail?

2005-11-07 Thread Richard Watson
Hi, I need to migrate my Gnome Evolution mail to a new PC I've just got. I tried copying everything from the .evolution folder into the new machine .evolution folder but the results are very eratic with only some of my mail recovering. Plus none of the addresses come across at all. Am I missing so

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --security

2005-11-07 Thread Qian Qiao
On 11/8/05, John J. Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Good evening all, > > Just before I had to kill-file a thread earlier today, I saw mention of > > emerge --security > > Running this on my system produces: > > //garbanzo/root # emerge --security > !!! Error: --security is an invalid option. >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: java-config issues

2005-11-07 Thread Qian Qiao
On 11/8/05, Willie Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 08:48:20PM +, Qian Qiao wrote: > > On 11/7/05, James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Well using 'python-updater' > > > env-update && source /etc/profile && etc-update > > > and 'emerge -uD world' > > > > > > everythin

RE: [gentoo-user] Kernel 2.6.14 & Nvidia

2005-11-07 Thread Bob Young
-Original Message- From: David Corbin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 3:21 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel 2.6.14 & Nvidia On Sunday 06 November 2005 11:13 pm, Norberto Bensa wrote: > Philip Webb wrote: > > Has anyone got Nv

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 14:38:45 -0600, kashani wrote: > If you're looking for an older example some combination of > updates from Postfix 2.0.x to 2.1.x would cause queue corruption. The > recommended way to update was to shut Postfix down while emerging. A recent update to dovecot stopped it

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --security

2005-11-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 19:07:51 -0500, John J. Foster wrote: > //garbanzo/root # emerge --security > !!! Error: --security is an invalid option. > > This is with portage-2.0.51.22-r3. Is this an option in an upcoming > version? It's not in 2.0.53_rc7 either, although glsa-check does the job for now.

Re: [gentoo-user] two ati-drivers packages using --deep --update

2005-11-07 Thread Manuel McLure
Mark Knecht wrote: Yes, this much was in place. I wondered later if the issue is that my current kernel has DRM selected so that I Can get the radeon driver from the kernel. Possibly for the ATI driver I need to completely deselect DRM, rebuild the kernel, and then emerge the ATI drivers? I'm

Re: [gentoo-user] [OTAnn] Feedback

2005-11-07 Thread Stroller
On Nov 7, 2005, at 9:25 pm, Holly Bostick wrote: shenanigans schreef: We have mirrored your mail list in a new application Is this permitted? (a mirror of the mail list that is unaffiliated with the Gentoo organization and administration? or is this affiliated?) And is there something wron

Re: [gentoo-user] two ati-drivers packages using --deep --update

2005-11-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On 11/7/05, Manuel McLure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: > > On 11/7/05, Manuel McLure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>The 32-bit drivers won't work on a 64-bit kernel, but ATI does provide > >>64-bit binary drivers as well (and the ebuild should download the > >>correct one depen

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel 2.6.14 & Nvidia

2005-11-07 Thread David Corbin
On Sunday 06 November 2005 11:13 pm, Norberto Bensa wrote: > Philip Webb wrote: > > Has anyone got Nvidia to work with Kernel 2.6.14 ? > > Yup. In /etc/conf.d/local.start > > /sbin/NVmakedevices.sh > > or > > mknod /dev/nvidia0 c 195 0 > mknod /dev/nvidiactl c 195 255 This doesn't work for me. I

Re: [gentoo-user] Abysmally slow 2D performance using proprietary Nvidia driver on dual Xeon system (EMT64)

2005-11-07 Thread Greg Bur
On 11/7/05, A. Khattri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, 7 Nov 2005, Greg Bur wrote:> My apologies for not making this more clear. The system load spike begins> with the click and it hovers at or near 100% until the new task (opening a> program, displaying a menu, etc) has completed. Even moving

Re: [gentoo-user] boot new splash Image?

2005-11-07 Thread Stroller
On Nov 7, 2005, at 3:14 pm, James wrote: I use the /boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz image at boot time, without issues. However, I'm looking for some variety now. Maybe (3) penguins? Animation? or a variety of different images at boot time? Any ideas or archives with lots of choices are most welcome.

Re: [gentoo-user] /usr/local/portage does not seem to have a valid PORTDIR structure.

2005-11-07 Thread Norberto Bensa
Neil Bothwick wrote: > > MyP=${P/_beta/beta} Actually, I did it like this: MY_P=${P/_/} Thank everyone! Norberto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: java-config issues

2005-11-07 Thread Willie Wong
On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 08:48:20PM +, Qian Qiao wrote: > On 11/7/05, James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well using 'python-updater' > > env-update && source /etc/profile && etc-update > > and 'emerge -uD world' > > > > everything is fine now. > > > > Where does one read about python-updat

[gentoo-user] emerge --security

2005-11-07 Thread John J. Foster
Good evening all, Just before I had to kill-file a thread earlier today, I saw mention of emerge --security Running this on my system produces: //garbanzo/root # emerge --security !!! Error: --security is an invalid option. This is with portage-2.0.51.22-r3. Is this an option in an upcoming ve

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel 2.6.14 & Nvidia [SOLVED]

2005-11-07 Thread Philip Webb
051107 Peper wrote: >> Has anyone got Nvidia to work with Kernel 2.6.14 ? >> I had it working with 2.6.12 , but got an error with 2.6.14 : >> (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialise NVIDIA kernel module! >> (EE) NVIDIA(0): *** aborting *** >> (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have usable configurat

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel 2.6.14 & Nvidia

2005-11-07 Thread Nick Tzaperas
Philip Webb wrote: 051107 Catalin Grigoroscuta wrote: Philip Webb wrote: Has anyone got Nvidia to work with Kernel 2.6.14 ? I had it working with 2.6.12 , but got an error with 2.6.14 : (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialise NVIDIA kernel module! (EE) NVIDIA(0): *** aborting *** (EE)

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel 2.6.14 & Nvidia

2005-11-07 Thread Thierry de Coulon
On Monday, 7 November 2005 22:31, Peper wrote: > > Has anyone got Nvidia to work with Kernel 2.6.14 ? > > I had it working with 2.6.12 , but got an error with 2.6.14 : > > (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialise NVIDIA kernel module! > > (EE) NVIDIA(0): *** aborting *** > > (EE) Screen(s) found,

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread A. Khattri
On Mon, 7 Nov 2005, Qian Qiao wrote: > 3. Schedule maintenance slots. That's the best way to manage updates. -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Billy Holmes
Holly Bostick wrote: world. *Ob*viously. Because *ob*viously, emerge -uDNworld updates to the version of whatever containing the patch for the hole. No matter what your ACCEPT_KEYWORDS is set to, no matter what USE flags are enabled. I also wanted to add something: sometimes patches are submitt

Re: [gentoo-user] Alsa for Kernel2.4

2005-11-07 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 23:45:01 +0200 David Harel wrote: > Thanks for your reply, > > Du you know if there is a kernel configuration I should do to have ALSA > on 2.4? for example should I have OSS set or midi loopback device? IIRC you should have "Sound Card Support" enabled as a module (in make

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Qian Qiao
On 11/7/05, A. Khattri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can understand the paranoia of having your servers hacked but there is > usually a middle ground that works reasonably well. I run a script nightly > via cron but all it does is do a portage sync and then *prebuild* binary > packages for any imp

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel 2.6.14 & Nvidia

2005-11-07 Thread Peper
> Has anyone got Nvidia to work with Kernel 2.6.14 ? > I had it working with 2.6.12 , but got an error with 2.6.14 : > (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialise NVIDIA kernel module! > (EE) NVIDIA(0): *** aborting *** > (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have usable configuration Have you really trie

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Jeff Smelser
On Monday 07 November 2005 03:38 pm, Jarry wrote: > As I said previously: fixing errors later is my problem. But if I do > not close some security leak, it would be then problem for me and maybe > someone else too. There are too many unpatched and vulnerable computers > on the net, I did not want

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Jeff Smelser
On Monday 07 November 2005 03:52 pm, Holly Bostick wrote: > No, no, Jeff, that is apparently where you are wrong: Heh, I missed this tidbit.. > Jarry schreef: > > Well, this will be probably criticised, but after every upgrade > > (independently of what was really updated) I restart sshd, named,

Re: [gentoo-user] two ati-drivers packages using --deep --update

2005-11-07 Thread Manuel McLure
Mark Knecht wrote: On 11/7/05, Manuel McLure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The 32-bit drivers won't work on a 64-bit kernel, but ATI does provide 64-bit binary drivers as well (and the ebuild should download the correct one depending on whether you're on a 64-bit or 32-bit Gentoo install.) --

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread kashani
Jarry wrote: As I said previously: fixing errors later is my problem. But if I do not close some security leak, it would be then problem for me and maybe someone else too. There are too many unpatched and vulnerable computers on the net, I did not want to cotribute to it... But there is definite

Re: [gentoo-user] LTSP vs. Diskless Nodes

2005-11-07 Thread A. Khattri
On Tue, 1 Nov 2005, Bob Sanders wrote: > Why not 4P with dual cores? While they work, the need is i/o and memory > bandwidth. > 4 sockets does that while 2 sockets and 2 dual-cores cores is only half the > bandwidth. Its very expensive, but you can now go up to 16 Opeteron cores in a single m

Re: [gentoo-user] [OTAnn] Feedback

2005-11-07 Thread Thomas Tuttle
On November 07 at 16:49 EST, Mark Knecht hastily scribbled: > I received an email from these guys and decided it was spam. Is it? > > - Mark It sounded to me either like spam or a humorous imitation of all the "Web 2.0" stuff going around (a "Web 2.01" app?) Either way, I'd ignore it. > On 11/7/

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Jarry
b.n. wrote: >> phrases like "...it bloody matters!..." or "how the hell would we >> know...!" or "Jarry needs variable BRAVE_YET_DUMB=1". Although >> such words do not sound good to me, I would never dare to say their >> authors are arrogant... > > These people are treating you with confidence. T

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge R

2005-11-07 Thread Ian Porter
Hi, On Thursday 27 October 2005 12:30, Ian Porter wrote: > Hi, > > > You should definitely use these drivers - they're excellent. I'm sure > > that once you `emerge rt2500` your problems will be resolved. The name > > of the interface will change from wlan0 to ra0, so you'll need to > > rename you

Re: [gentoo-user] Full path in apache2 access_log?

2005-11-07 Thread A. Khattri
On Fri, 4 Nov 2005, Grant wrote: > The shopping cart software does only look at the URL, but I have it > determining what to display partially based on the domain in that URL. > apache2 doesn't do anything based on the domain. If you are using name virtual-hosting, Apache can serve different sit

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Qian Qiao
On 11/7/05, Qian Qiao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Oh, I left out an important note: major upgrades, feature upgrades should always be tested on a test server before applying to production. -- Joe -- There are 3 kinds of people in the world: Those who can count, and those who can't. -- gentoo-us

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread A. Khattri
On Mon, 7 Nov 2005, John Jolet wrote: > At the risk of of adding to the flames here, perhaps an example is in > order I once worked as a sysadmin for a guy who firmly believed in > security. To prevent any security holes from lingering, he did an apt-get > update out of cron every friday nigh

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Holly Bostick
Jeff Smelser schreef: > On Monday 07 November 2005 02:04 pm, Jarry wrote: > >>> Which you are not doing, and frankly, you're pretty lucky that >>> something hasn't blown up up to now. >> >> That might happen, sooner o later. But still I think it is still >> better than leaving some hole for uni

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Qian Qiao
On 11/7/05, Jarry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: doh, everything is trimmed. :D Let's leave the brave, dumb, ignorance, arrogance out, and concentrate on maintaining a server, especially production servers with clients. First of all, I should point out that maintaining a server is far more than jus

Re: [gentoo-user] Alsa for Kernel2.4

2005-11-07 Thread David Harel
Thanks for your reply, Du you know if there is a kernel configuration I should do to have ALSA on 2.4? for example should I have OSS set or midi loopback device? Christoph Eckert wrote: I understand I can have ALSA on kernel 2.4 (I can't shift to 2.6 - display driver issue) so how do I do it?

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Mark
OK, can y'all just drop it? Filling my inbox with bickering is not why I subscribe to such a fine technical list On 11/7/05, Qian Qiao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 11/7/05, Jarry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > b.n. wrote: > > > > >> Polite and respectful. > > > They don't look that much. > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread b.n.
Polite and respectful. They don't look that much. Well, I always thought that using the words like "please" is a sign of respect to others. Sometimes it looks more like sarcasm. Yours is a bit "autistic" way to deal with human language. It is not like using "please" in a sentence means an

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Jarry
Holly Bostick wrote: > Hmmm, interesting concept. What else does root have to do but administer > the server? Well, in this case it is not some serious server, just for fun&play. And sometimes I really do not have time to take care of it for a couple of days, week or two. I have a different job..

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread John Jolet
On Monday 07 November 2005 15:22, Qian Qiao wrote: > On 11/7/05, Jarry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > b.n. wrote: > > >> Polite and respectful. > > > > > > They don't look that much. > > > > Well, I always thought that using the words like "please" is a sign > > of respect to others. On the other s

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Accessing Linux filesystems from Windows with Crossmeta

2005-11-07 Thread Billy Holmes
Heinz Sporn wrote: Noone's interested in this? Are you kidding me? ;-) haha.. I don't run windows in a situation where I have to access files from a physical drive. I rarely run windows at all, actually. Well, in the end I got this thing running and I now have read and *write* access to an

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Jeff Smelser
On Monday 07 November 2005 02:04 pm, Jarry wrote: > > Which you are not doing, and frankly, you're pretty lucky that something > > hasn't blown up up to now. > > That might happen, sooner o later. But still I think it is still better > than leaving some hole for uninvited visitors. > Thanks for you

Re: [gentoo-user] [OTAnn] Feedback

2005-11-07 Thread Holly Bostick
shenanigans schreef: > > We have mirrored your mail list in a new application Is this permitted? (a mirror of the mail list that is unaffiliated with the Gentoo organization and administration? or is this affiliated?) And is there something wrong with me that it rather gives me the creeps if it

Re: [gentoo-user] two ati-drivers packages using --deep --update

2005-11-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On 11/7/05, Manuel McLure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mark Knecht wrote: > > From someone on the LKML I found out that the ATI binary drivers won't > > work on a 64-bit kernel so this is suddently not such an issue for me. > > The 32-bit drivers won't work on a 64-bit kernel, but ATI does provide

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Qian Qiao
On 11/7/05, Jarry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > b.n. wrote: > > >> Polite and respectful. > > They don't look that much. > > Well, I always thought that using the words like "please" is a sign > of respect to others. On the other side, some of replies included > phrases like "...it bloody matters!..

[gentoo-user] [OTAnn] Feedback

2005-11-07 Thread shenanigans
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Re: [gentoo-user] Abysmally slow 2D performance using proprietary Nvidia driver on dual Xeon system (EMT64)

2005-11-07 Thread A. Khattri
On Mon, 7 Nov 2005, Greg Bur wrote: > My apologies for not making this more clear. The system load spike begins > with the click and it hovers at or near 100% until the new task (opening a > program, displaying a menu, etc) has completed. Even moving a window causes > this to happen and the load o

Re: [gentoo-user] Alsa for Kernel2.4

2005-11-07 Thread Christoph Eckert
> I understand I can have ALSA on kernel 2.4 (I can't shift to 2.6 - > display driver issue) so how do I do it? in 2.4 ALSA is completely outside the kernel, so you need the following packages: * ALSA-lib * ALSA-driver * ALSA-utils (optional but recommended) Best regards ce -- gentoo-u

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Holly Bostick
Jarry schreef: > Holly Bostick wrote: > > >> The Gentoo Handbook does *not* recommend you do these procedures >> *unattended*, the way you are doing them. > > > Well, gentoo says "...update your system regularly...". I thought it > means really regularly, not "when root finds some spare time

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Jarry
Qian Qiao wrote: > Tell me how log entries are gonna inform you if the init scripts can't > even start the service? I'm not sure, probably in ~30min I would get email, if completely broken server would not make it impossible. I thought either monit or logsentry would notice it and inform me... >

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Jarry
b.n. wrote: >> Polite and respectful. > They don't look that much. Well, I always thought that using the words like "please" is a sign of respect to others. On the other side, some of replies included phrases like "...it bloody matters!..." or "how the hell would we know...!" or "Jarry needs var

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: java-config issues

2005-11-07 Thread Qian Qiao
On 11/7/05, James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well using 'python-updater' > env-update && source /etc/profile && etc-update > and 'emerge -uD world' > > everything is fine now. > > Where does one read about python-updater ? It was printed on the screen when you update your python package. Did

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 20:49:40 +0100 Jarry wrote: > b.n. wrote: > > Jarry wrote: > >> b.n. wrote: > >>> Jarry is quite arrogant... > >> > >> Could you please be more specific? Who did I insulted, or what > >> makes you think I am arrogant? Copy&paste please, if you find > >> something... > > > > J

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Qian Qiao
On 11/7/05, Jarry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Personally, I prefer rather breaking some dependencies in my system, > over leaving some security hole in it. I am fully aware of the > possibility that some services might be unavailable, but logsentry > and monit will inform me about it... If your s

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread kashani
Jarry wrote: Could some of you, gentoo-wizards, be kind enough and explain, what is wrong in doing the things the way gentoo handbook recommends it? Without offensive language, if I may ask... Being a server guy I'll throw this one out as it hasn't happened yet, though I expect a fair amount

RE: [gentoo-user] Kernel 2.6.14 & Nvidia

2005-11-07 Thread Bob Young
-Original Message- From: Philip Webb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 12:06 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel 2.6.14 & Nvidia 051107 Catalin Grigoroscuta wrote: > Philip Webb wrote: >> Has anyone got Nvidia to work with Kernel

[gentoo-user] Alsa for Kernel2.4

2005-11-07 Thread David Harel
Hi all, I understand I can have ALSA on kernel 2.4 (I can't shift to 2.6 - display driver issue) so how do I do it? -- Thanks. David Harel, == Home office +972 77 4422234 Fax:+972 77 4422234 Cellular: +972 54 4534502 Snail Mail: Amuka D.

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Qian Qiao
On 11/7/05, Jarry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That might happen, sooner o later. But still I think it is still better > than leaving some hole for uninvited visitors. You'd rather having a b0rked system, than some uninvited visitors... Hmmm. One piece of advice: turn that system off. -- Joe --

[gentoo-user] Re: java-config issues

2005-11-07 Thread James
Michael Sullivan espersunited.com> writes: > > You need to use java-config to set your JVM to a JDK! > > Which brings me back to java-config, which is broken. > > Any help or ideas are most welcome. > I had this problem last week. Running 'python-updater' fixed it. Well using 'python-updat

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread b.n.
Just read the three lines quoted above and you'll find what I mean. Yes, I have read it. Two question and one request. True. Polite and respectful. They don't look that much. Arrogance is not about insulting. It is something much more subtle, but not less evident. Does that make me

Re: [gentoo-user] two ati-drivers packages using --deep --update

2005-11-07 Thread Manuel McLure
Mark Knecht wrote: From someone on the LKML I found out that the ATI binary drivers won't work on a 64-bit kernel so this is suddently not such an issue for me. The 32-bit drivers won't work on a 64-bit kernel, but ATI does provide 64-bit binary drivers as well (and the ebuild should download

Re: [gentoo-user] two ati-drivers packages using --deep --update

2005-11-07 Thread Martins Steinbergs
> > emerge -p ati-drivers ati-drivers-extra > > These are the packages that I would merge, in order: > > Calculating dependencies ...done! > [ebuild R ] media-video/ati-drivers-8.18.8-r1 > [ebuild R ] media-video/ati-drivers-extra-8.18.8 > > Do you maybe have a mask on ati-drivers-extra? >

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel 2.6.14 & Nvidia

2005-11-07 Thread Philip Webb
051107 Catalin Grigoroscuta wrote: > Philip Webb wrote: >> Has anyone got Nvidia to work with Kernel 2.6.14 ? >> I had it working with 2.6.12 , but got an error with 2.6.14 : >> (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialise NVIDIA kernel module! >> (EE) NVIDIA(0): *** aborting *** >> (EE) Screen(s) fo

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Jarry
Holly Bostick wrote: > The Gentoo Handbook does *not* recommend you do these procedures > *unattended*, the way you are doing them. Well, gentoo says "...update your system regularly...". I thought it means really regularly, not "when root finds some spare time to do it". And things, which must b

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread kashani
Qian Qiao wrote: To elabrate even more: Redhat, suse and possibly other distro users can do cron upgrades, as those distros never give out in-compatible upgrades to a release. heh, if only this were truly the case. However the sentiment is still correct, my beef being with the word *never*.

Re: [gentoo-user] two ati-drivers packages using --deep --update

2005-11-07 Thread Mark Knecht
On 11/7/05, Holly Bostick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mark Knecht schreef: > > Problem here-- afaik-- is that the drivers-extra package is hooked to > the drivers package of the same version. > > The --deep update of the drivers-extra package requires the 'same' > version of the drivers package a

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Jarry
b.n. wrote: > Jarry wrote: >> b.n. wrote: >>> Jarry is quite arrogant... >> >> Could you please be more specific? Who did I insulted, or what >> makes you think I am arrogant? Copy&paste please, if you find >> something... > > Just read the three lines quoted above and you'll find what I mean. Ye

Re: [gentoo-user] /usr/local/portage does not seem to have a valid PORTDIR structure.

2005-11-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 11:24:19 +0100, Nagatoro wrote: > > Something along the lines of > > > > My_P=$(P/beta/_beta} > > > > and use ${My_P} instead of ${P} throughout the ebuild. > > > > > > Or better look at > http://dev.gentoo.org/~plasmaroo/devmanual/ebuild-writing/ > > since _beta is a re

Re: [gentoo-user] Convert windows-1250 database to UTF-8

2005-11-07 Thread Renat Golubchyk
On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 12:25:22 +0100 Khan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bruno Lustosa wrote: > > On 11/7/05, *Khan* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > wrote: > > > > > I'm trying to convert my windows-1250 database to Unicode, > > > UTF-8. Is there any script that can do the job? > >

[gentoo-user] Re: Big problem with module-rebuild

2005-11-07 Thread Marc Christiansen
Holly Bostick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > .. and that problem is, in short, that the rebuild unmerges the previous > version, in the currently-running (or previous) kernel modules folder, > breaking the previous kernel. Did you check if the files are really gone? [...] > |>>> Safely unmerging al

Re: [gentoo-user] two ati-drivers packages using --deep --update

2005-11-07 Thread Holly Bostick
Mark Knecht schreef: > Hi, Is the following expected with recent ati-drivers? Is this > slotted? No, and no. > If so, and if I did the --deep --update command, then how do I know > which one I'm using when I load fglrx? fglrxinfo would tell you the version of the ati-drivers in use. But... the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Big problem with module-rebuild [SOLVED]

2005-11-07 Thread Holly Bostick
Remy Blank schreef: > Holly Bostick wrote: > >> And the drivers build and install fine... then this: >> >> |>>> Safely unmerging already-installed instance... ==>--- >> cfgpro obj /lib/modules/2.6.13-gentoo-r4/video/fglrx.ko ==>--- >> cfgpro dir /lib/modules/2.6.13-gentoo-r4/video ==>--- cfgpro

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread b.n.
Jarry wrote: b.n. wrote: Jarry is quite arrogant... Could you please be more specific? Who did I insulted, or what makes you think I am arrogant? Copy&paste please, if you find something... Just read the three lines quoted above and you'll find what I mean. m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org m

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Holly Bostick
Jarry schreef: > Holly Bostick wrote: > >> Qian Qiao schreef: >> >>> On 11/6/05, Jarry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> All I do is running this set of commands every night from crontab: emerge --sync emerge --update --deep --newuse world emerge --depclean revdep-rebuild >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] Abysmally slow 2D performance using proprietary Nvidia driver on dual Xeon system (EMT64)

2005-11-07 Thread Greg Bur
On 11/7/05, brullo nulla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > However, after about 10> minutes the system load on one processor sharply increases to 100% when> performing a simple task such as clicking on a button in Firefox, launching> a new gnome-terminal window or clicking on the "Applications" menu at

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Qian Qiao
On 11/7/05, Jarry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2&chap=1#doc_chap3 > = > Updating your System > To keep your system in perfect shape (and not to mention install the > latest security updates) you

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Jarry
b.n. wrote: > Jarry is quite arrogant... Could you please be more specific? Who did I insulted, or what makes you think I am arrogant? Copy&paste please, if you find something... Jarry -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-user] two ati-drivers packages using --deep --update

2005-11-07 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi, Is the following expected with recent ati-drivers? Is this slotted? If so, and if I did the --deep --update command, then how do I know which one I'm using when I load fglrx? Thanks, Mark lightning ~ # emerge -pv ati-drivers ati-drivers-extra These are the packages that I would merge, i

[gentoo-user] Re: Big problem with module-rebuild

2005-11-07 Thread Remy Blank
Holly Bostick wrote: > And the drivers build and install fine... then this: > > |>>> Safely unmerging already-installed instance... > > ==>--- cfgpro obj /lib/modules/2.6.13-gentoo-r4/video/fglrx.ko > ==>--- cfgpro dir /lib/modules/2.6.13-gentoo-r4/video > ==>--- cfgpro dir /lib/modules/2.6.13-ge

Re: [gentoo-user] Big problem with module-rebuild

2005-11-07 Thread Holly Bostick
Neil Bothwick schreef: > On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 18:26:02 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote: > > >> And my question is, how to get it to stop doing that. If Portage >> has a FEATURES setting that prevents the previous version being >> unmerged this way, I don't know what it is. > > > Doesn't AUTOCLEAN

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Jarry
Qian Qiao wrote: > But for Jarry, he probably need 2 variables: > BRAVE_YET_DUMB=1 > I_WILL_NOT_BLAME_THE_DEVS_IF_MY_SYSTEM_GETS_BORKED=1 Satisfied? Carry on, if it makes you feel better... Anyway, I'll not fight back to this primitive insultation. It is under my level, and imho under level of th

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread b.n.
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2&chap=1#doc_chap3 = Updating your System To keep your system in perfect shape (and not to mention install the latest security updates) you need to update your system regularly. Since Portage o

Re: [gentoo-user] java-config issues

2005-11-07 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 18:20 +, James wrote: > Hello, > > >Top-posting filter avoidance on gmane > ->ignore line > > When performing a routine update > (after emerge sync) > I ran into a problem with java-config. > > emerge -uDp listed about 8 packages for update. > > > Problem > > m

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Jarry
Holly Bostick wrote: > Qian Qiao schreef: >>On 11/6/05, Jarry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>>All I do is running this set of commands every night from >>>crontab: >>>emerge --sync emerge --update --deep --newuse world emerge >>>--depclean revdep-rebuild >> >>Omg, you have emerge --deep --newuse -

[gentoo-user] Re: Ruby Rails and Rake - strange error on Gentoo...

2005-11-07 Thread Francesco Talamona
On Monday 07 November 2005 17:27, Steve [Gentoo] wrote: > I've recently started playing around with Ruby and rails under > Gentoo. I've installed everything using emerge as opposed to the > using ruby gems. > > While I seem to be able to use my rails application, I get a puzzling > error message wh

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Qian Qiao
On 11/7/05, Holly Bostick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Qian Qiao schreef: > > Omg, you have emerge --deep --newuse --update world as a *cron* job? > > > > and just when you thought it couldn't get any worse, comes a > depclean > > every night. > > Ciaran said it best: > > > I really h

[gentoo-user] java-config issues

2005-11-07 Thread James
Hello, >Top-posting filter avoidance on gmane ->ignore line When performing a routine update (after emerge sync) I ran into a problem with java-config. emerge -uDp listed about 8 packages for update. Problem md5 src_uri ;-) php-4.4.0.tar.bz2 md5 src_uri ;-) php-4.3.6-includepath.diff

Re: [gentoo-user] Big problem with module-rebuild

2005-11-07 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 18:26:02 +0100, Holly Bostick wrote: > And my question is, how to get it to stop doing that. If Portage has a > FEATURES setting that prevents the previous version being unmerged this > way, I don't know what it is. Doesn't AUTOCLEAN="no" do this? It is a separate setting

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Holly Bostick
Qian Qiao schreef: > On 11/6/05, Jarry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> All I do is running this set of commands every night from >> crontab: >> >> emerge --sync emerge --update --deep --newuse world emerge >> --depclean revdep-rebuild >> >> So my portage is also always updated, to the last stab

Re: [gentoo-user] portage: fixed or not???

2005-11-07 Thread Qian Qiao
On 11/6/05, Jarry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nick Rout wrote: > > To everyone in this thread: it would probably help if you specified > > which version of portage you are running! > > Do you really think it is important? Because since I'm using Gentoo, > I do not take care about versions, portage

Re: [gentoo-user] Ruby Rails and Rake - strange error on Gentoo...

2005-11-07 Thread Abap
On 11/7/05, Steve [Gentoo] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've recently started playing around with Ruby and rails under Gentoo.I've installed everything using emerge as opposed to the using ruby gems.While I seem to be able to use my rails application, I get a puzzling error message when I try to veri

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Simple and lightweight SMTP server

2005-11-07 Thread kashani
Mauro Faccenda wrote: On Monday 07 November 2005 13:38, Alexander Skwar wrote: On normal systems, I always use Postfix, but that's not really "lightweight" :) qmail six of one, half a dozen of the other in my mind as neither are monolithic binaries. qmail uses ucspi-tcp to start thing as

Re: [gentoo-user] Ruby Rails and Rake - strange error on Gentoo...

2005-11-07 Thread Preston Hagar
I have the exact same issue and as yet have been unable to solve it.  My emerged versions are as follows: dev-lang/ruby-1.8.3 * dev-ruby/rubygems-0.8.11 * dev-ruby/activerecord-1.11.1 dev-ruby/activesupport-1.1.1-r2 * dev-ruby/rake-0.5.3 * dev-ruby/rails-0.13.1 * My error when running rake: /usr/

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Simple and lightweight SMTP server

2005-11-07 Thread Rumen Yotov
On Mon, 2005-11-07 at 17:38 +0100, Alexander Skwar wrote: > Hi. > > I'm looking for a very lightweight SMTP server. It > should (in order): > > - Support TLS or SSL for outgoing/incoming connections > - Be VERY light on CPU usage > - Store mails in Maildir format (or hand it off to an > MDA lik

[gentoo-user] Big problem with module-rebuild

2005-11-07 Thread Holly Bostick
.. and that problem is, in short, that the rebuild unmerges the previous version, in the currently-running (or previous) kernel modules folder, breaking the previous kernel. And my question is, how to get it to stop doing that. If Portage has a FEATURES setting that prevents the previous version b

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