Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 6:24 AM, Adam Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm finding it unusable as it crashes often. How are you guys finding it? Really fast, no crashes as of yet, totally satisified. -- Greetings, Gordon. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability
Hi, I didn't experience any crash with Firefox3, the only problem I had was a rendering issue with the resized pictures, but this bug is related to xulrunner-1.9 and it can be fixed in the xorg config. For me Firefox3 is a lot faster that Firefox2 and I don't have to restart it every 3 days in order to make it responsive again. Regards, Boris. On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 08:55, Gordon Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 6:24 AM, Adam Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm finding it unusable as it crashes often. How are you guys finding it? Really fast, no crashes as of yet, totally satisified. -- Greetings, Gordon. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list -- $ ruby -e'puts .:@BFegiklnorst.unpack(x4ax7aaX6ax5aX15ax4aax6aaX7ax2 \ aX5aX8axaX3ax8aX4ax6aX3aX6ax3ax3aX9ax4ax2aX9axaX6ax3aX2ax4 \ ax3aX4aXaX12ax10aaX7a).join' -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability
Seems to randomly die, dont really see it as faster than FF2, objectionable behaviour (jumping desktops when its called from another app), ugly icons, ... It will get better, ... I hope. BillK I started with a clean profile and got random crashes. It could be a little faster, but those crashes are nasty. The day ago I was at 20 seconds befor the end of the auction and it crashes!!! Da..! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability
On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 06:24:49 +0200, Adam Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm finding it unusable as it crashes often. How are you guys finding it? Yes, move to last opera release, sounds better to me -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb
NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA --- On Mon, 6/30/08, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Monday, June 30, 2008, 4:50 PM On Monday 30 June 2008, Eduardo Otubo wrote: Hi again, In fact, just like Ricardo said, my congrats to a person who wants to learn Linux starting by Gentoo :-) But, back to the problem: Then, I insist at the point: As root, try to mount it manually and paste the output here: # mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom Certify that /mnt/cdrom exists. :-) Or: $ dmesg | grep CD and: $ ls -la /dev/cd* -- Regards, Mick Dear Mick Richard, This is the output after i mount it manually: mount: block device /dev/cdrom is write-proctected, mounting read-only Regards, Norman -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability
080702 Gordon Schulz wrote: On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 6:24 AM, Adam Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm finding it unusable as it crashes often. How are you guys finding it? Really fast, no crashes as of yet, totally satisified. Same here on KDE 3.5.9 : are the dissatisfied using another DE (smile) ? Also, it does use less memory, typically 400 MB a/a 700 MB at end of day. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gordon Schulz escreveu: On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 6:24 AM, Adam Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm finding it unusable as it crashes often. How are you guys finding it? Really fast, no crashes as of yet, totally satisified. ME TOO, so good!!! (using some addons like flashblock, noscript, gmail, videodownloader) - -- Zhu Sha Zang Hyaku ne hayanda yo! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkhrdPsACgkQbLyL8mxGP9SWegCgrj9QchlYwlj+U/CGvarjIpWj vosAn0uLG1netsJvvii0UPmag1FHppYb =tHXy -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Yahoo! Mail - Sempre a melhor opção para você! Experimente já e veja as novidades. http://br.yahoo.com/mailbeta/tudonovo/ -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CD/DVD burning tools?
* Joerg Schilling ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [01.07.08 10:50]: There _is_ an evil conspiracy at least on Suse. Suse told me that they cannot use unmodified original software and they need to modify my software. But that's not an evil conspiracy against you, that's the normal policy of SuSe: they have to modify everything until it is broken. I would not care too much about them... Sebastian -- Religion ist das Opium des Volkes. Karl Marx [EMAIL PROTECTED]@N GÜNTHER mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp2z6BkgqBNt.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox 3 stability
Adam Carter wrote: I'm finding it unusable as it crashes often. How are you guys finding it? I find the -bin version is stable, and works well with embedded flash (e.g. youtube). (I find the new Opera is more stable, and when loaded without the mail programs (Opera -nomail -nolirc ) it absolutely flies.) So Opera with JS, Flash, cookies, and IFrames off for general browsing; FF when I need to do media. HTH -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] where is emacs-cvs-23.0.60 ?
I see mention of emacs-cvs-23.0.60 is several places including bugs.gentoo.org, but I can't find it in portage. I am running 23.0.50 now with success. thanks, allan -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Emerging SVN build when server is down
I've just tried to emerge the svn ebuild of madwifi-ng after a kernel update. I have previously merged this so I have working sources in $DISTDIR/svn-src but svn.madwifi.org is down. The emerge bails out when it is unable to contact the server, when I would prefer it to use the existing sources. Is there a way to force portage to do this? If not, I think I should file a bug on this as it is a significant blocker. After all, if I didn't have a wired connection, the server would always be unavailable until I remerged the package. -- Neil Bothwick Stop metricationists! They are demanding their 454 grammes of flesh, and if we give them 2.54 centimetres they'll take 1.609 kilometres! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Emerging SVN build when server is down
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 15:33 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: I've just tried to emerge the svn ebuild of madwifi-ng after a kernel update. I have previously merged this so I have working sources in $DISTDIR/svn-src but svn.madwifi.org is down. The emerge bails out when it is unable to contact the server, when I would prefer it to use the existing sources. Is there a way to force portage to do this? If not, I think I should file a bug on this as it is a significant blocker. After all, if I didn't have a wired connection, the server would always be unavailable until I remerged the package. None of the madwifi-ng ebuilds in my portage tree have an svn source. I'd be surprised if they did because the Gentoo devs generally discourage subversion/cvs/etc. ebuilds. Also lots of times a SRC_URI server is down or a mirror is out of sync and we don't call them bugs; we call them crappy servers. Now I'm not a Gentoo dev (anymore) but I wouldn't be surprised that if you submitted a bug you'd get a WONTFIX or a patches welcomed response. -a -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Emerging SVN build when server is down
On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 09:48:22 -0500, Albert Hopkins wrote: None of the madwifi-ng ebuilds in my portage tree have an svn source. I'd be surprised if they did because the Gentoo devs generally discourage subversion/cvs/etc. ebuilds. It's in an overlay, the portage ebuilds don't support my card. although there are ebuilds in portage that use svn/cvs, like MythTV. Also lots of times a SRC_URI server is down or a mirror is out of sync and we don't call them bugs; we call them crappy servers. Well, that is the root cause of the problem, or they didn't pay their hosting bill! But it is better to work around such situations than blame others. The point is that I already have the sources in $DISTDIR, but portage won't use them until it can verify that they are up to date. Since they work and the server doesn't, I'd say that was a reasonable assumption. Now I'm not a Gentoo dev (anymore) but I wouldn't be surprised that if you submitted a bug you'd get a WONTFIX or a patches welcomed response. I was hoping someone already knew a workaround, otherwise it makes it impossible to build from source you have already downloaded and verified, which sounds like a bug to me! -- Neil Bothwick This tagline is baroque; please call Bach. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Emerging SVN build when server is down
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Neil Bothwick wrote: | I was hoping someone already knew a workaround, otherwise it makes it | impossible to build from source you have already downloaded and verified, | which sounds like a bug to me! Hm. Edit the ebuild and temporarily disable the up-to-date check? - -- Johann Schmitz http://www.j-schmitz.net -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkhrmoIACgkQZsUt7MqpQk0T2QCg58tpDGUhsRrgDRWK9HLyECCw vm4An193DP7Ki+3bu3LXDWHTnweIDJDl =EI9H -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Emerging SVN build when server is down
2008/7/2, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've just tried to emerge the svn ebuild of madwifi-ng after a kernel update. I have previously merged this so I have working sources in $DISTDIR/svn-src but svn.madwifi.org is down. The emerge bails out when it is unable to contact the server, when I would prefer it to use the existing sources. Is there a way to force portage to do this? If not, I think I should file a bug on this as it is a significant blocker. After all, if I didn't have a wired connection, the server would always be unavailable until I remerged the package. I have not tried this myself but you can try to copy $DISTDIR/svn-src to $WORKDIR and use 'ebuild name-of-the-ebuild.ebuild {install,qmerge}' to install it manually. See 'man ebuild' for reference. Maybe you should do 'ebuild name-of-the-ebuild.ebuild unpack' before so hopefully all other stuff in $WORKDIR is created besides the work folder itself which fails because of the missing sources. Then copy the sources manually and run install and qmerge. Regards, Daniel -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Emerging SVN build when server is down
On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 17:10:58 +0200, Johann Schmitz wrote: | I was hoping someone already knew a workaround, otherwise it makes it | impossible to build from source you have already downloaded and | verified, which sounds like a bug to me! Hm. Edit the ebuild and temporarily disable the up-to-date check? That's all handled by the subversion eclass, and I don't want to mess with that. -- Neil Bothwick This is a test of the emergency tagline stealing system. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Emerging SVN build when server is down
On Wednesday 02 July 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: I've just tried to emerge the svn ebuild of madwifi-ng after a kernel update. I have previously merged this so I have working sources in $DISTDIR/svn-src but svn.madwifi.org is down. The emerge bails out when it is unable to contact the server, when I would prefer it to use the existing sources. Is there a way to force portage to do this? There's an env var, something like ESVN_SERVER, that you can set to offline, and if the ebuild inherits the svn eclass, it won't try to checkout new sources. You'll have to look in the eclass to find the correct name. I looked it up only once and noted that it's analogous to ECVS_SERVER (which I use often). -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Emerging SVN build when server is down
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 17:50:18 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: There's an env var, something like ESVN_SERVER, that you can set to offline, and if the ebuild inherits the svn eclass, it won't try to checkout new sources. Thanks Alan. The variable is ESVN_OFFLINE, which you set to anything non-empty to skip the updates. I'd hoped portage was intelligent enough to have a way to use existing svn sources. It is, it's just a user not intelligent enough to find it :( Thanks again! -- Neil Bothwick Why is it that when you transport something by car it's called shipment, but when you transport it by ship it's called cargo? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Emerging SVN build when server is down
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 17:37:39 +0200, Daniel Pielmeier wrote: I have not tried this myself but you can try to copy $DISTDIR/svn-src to $WORKDIR and use 'ebuild name-of-the-ebuild.ebuild {install,qmerge}' to install it manually. See 'man ebuild' for reference. I was about to try this when Alan's suggestion arrived, which worked. However, this is just the sort of kludgy approach that appeals to me :) -- Neil Bothwick What do you have when you have six lawyers buried up to their necks in sand? Not enough sand. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb
Well, I think you did it, man! Just check out your /mnt/cdrom and see if your files are there :-) []'s On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 8:29 AM, Norman Hakim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA --- On Mon, 6/30/08, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Monday, June 30, 2008, 4:50 PM On Monday 30 June 2008, Eduardo Otubo wrote: Hi again, In fact, just like Ricardo said, my congrats to a person who wants to learn Linux starting by Gentoo :-) But, back to the problem: Then, I insist at the point: As root, try to mount it manually and paste the output here: # mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom Certify that /mnt/cdrom exists. :-) Or: $ dmesg | grep CD and: $ ls -la /dev/cd* -- Regards, Mick Dear Mick Richard, This is the output after i mount it manually: mount: block device /dev/cdrom is write-proctected, mounting read-only Regards, Norman -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list -- Eduardo Otubo Linux Registered User #424252 http://otubo.net |_|0|_| |_|_|0| |0|0|0| -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb
2008/7/2 Norman Hakim [EMAIL PROTECTED]: NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA Dear Mick Richard, This is the output after i mount it manually: mount: block device /dev/cdrom is write-proctected, mounting read-only Regards, Norman Norman, Good, you did it, you mounted your cdrom. That message is just a warning, and it is only extra information that the mount command shows you, so you do not have to face any surprises. That warning is only telling you (as I said before) that your cdrom is a read-only media. If you want cdrom to automatically mount when you insert a cd, just add this line to your /etc/fstab: /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,ro,user 0 0 And that should work just fine. Regards, Richard. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Emerging SVN build when server is down
Neil Bothwick schrieb: On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 17:37:39 +0200, Daniel Pielmeier wrote: I have not tried this myself but you can try to copy $DISTDIR/svn-src to $WORKDIR and use 'ebuild name-of-the-ebuild.ebuild {install,qmerge}' to install it manually. See 'man ebuild' for reference. I was about to try this when Alan's suggestion arrived, which worked. However, this is just the sort of kludgy approach that appeals to me :) Yeah, using the env variable is a bit smarter than my approach. ;-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb
Am Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2008 schrieb Ricardo Bevilacqua: If you want cdrom to automatically mount when you insert a cd, just add this line to your /etc/fstab: /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,ro,user 0 0 Sorry, but that's nonsense. It tells the mount command that it should try to guess the filesystem type. Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Emerging SVN build when server is down
On Wednesday 02 July 2008, Daniel Pielmeier wrote: Neil Bothwick schrieb: On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 17:37:39 +0200, Daniel Pielmeier wrote: I have not tried this myself but you can try to copy $DISTDIR/svn-src to $WORKDIR and use 'ebuild name-of-the-ebuild.ebuild {install,qmerge}' to install it manually. See 'man ebuild' for reference. I was about to try this when Alan's suggestion arrived, which worked. However, this is just the sort of kludgy approach that appeals to me :) Yeah, using the env variable is a bit smarter than my approach. ;-) It may be smarter, but it's also, ho hum, so *ordinary*. I mean, env vars are supposed to be read by apps and modify their behaviour accordingly. And here I am, offering a solution that merely uses the system as designed. How boring Elegantly misusing the ebuild command to get the correct result anyway - now that is a stroke of pure genius. I shall make a note of this in my journal, that my grandchildren, fifty years hence, may still appreciate how real men made operating systems back in the day. :-) Oh dear, I'm getting verbose again... -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb
2008/7/2 Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Am Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2008 schrieb Ricardo Bevilacqua: If you want cdrom to automatically mount when you insert a cd, just add this line to your /etc/fstab: /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,ro,user 0 0 Sorry, but that's nonsense. It tells the mount command that it should try to guess the filesystem type. Bye... Dirk Dirk, Yes, I know. That is how it is explained as an example in the Gentoo Linux Handbook Chapter 8 [1] and it has worked for me so far. I am sure that you could specify one file system type, but I am not too sure if this really works at any case because a DVD could not follow the ISO 9660 standard. As far as I know, some DVD's use the UDF format. Regards, Richard. [1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=8 -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb
Am Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2008 schrieb Ricardo Bevilacqua: I am sure that you could specify one file system type, but I am not too sure if this really works at any case because a DVD could not follow the ISO 9660 standard. As far as I know, some DVD's use the UDF Yes, what I wrote what auto is for. mount will find out wether the media is iso9660 or udf, but it will _not_ cause the media to be mounted automatically when inserted, as you wrote previously. Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb
In fact, To we get those things really automactly mounted, we need to install and configure 'ivman' and 'hald'. For those who speaks portuguese I have a great tutorial writen by a friend of mine: http://nottooamused.wordpress.com/2007/02/27/montando-dispositivos-automaticamente-no-gnulinux/ []'s On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2008 schrieb Ricardo Bevilacqua: I am sure that you could specify one file system type, but I am not too sure if this really works at any case because a DVD could not follow the ISO 9660 standard. As far as I know, some DVD's use the UDF Yes, what I wrote what auto is for. mount will find out wether the media is iso9660 or udf, but it will _not_ cause the media to be mounted automatically when inserted, as you wrote previously. Bye... Dirk -- Eduardo Otubo Linux Registered User #424252 http://otubo.net |_|0|_| |_|_|0| |0|0|0| -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability
Adam Carter wrote: I'm finding it unusable as it crashes often. How are you guys finding it? +2 on firefox3. Faster, doesn't slow down after long use. I really see the difference with javascript. The engine is much faster. Just try a js heavy page(like google apps). I haven't had any crashes. Only complaint is that flash blocker(or maybe flash itself) doesn't always work. I have to reload a couple of times to get youtube to work. Also, some plugins haven't been ported yet. I compiled it, and here are my use flags: dbus gnome ipv6 java linguas_en linguas_en_US mozdevelop startup-notification xulrunner -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Myspell and Linguas variable
Hey Was just going to install my dictionaries for myspell, when I was wondering why myspell doesn't pull in the dictionaries depending on the languages in the LINGUAS variable in make.conf ?? - This method wouldn't require the user to be aware of the dictionaries when uninstalling myspell (or what ever might be depending on it) Just a thought to make the world just a little bit easier Thomas -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability
On AD 2008 July 02 Wednesday 02:20:30 PM -0400, doki_pen wrote: +2 on firefox3. Faster, doesn't slow down after long use. I really see the difference with javascript. The engine is much faster. Just try a js heavy page(like google apps). I haven't had any crashes. Only complaint is that flash blocker(or maybe flash itself) doesn't always work. I have to reload a couple of times to get youtube to work. Also, some plugins haven't been ported yet. I compiled it, and here are my use flags: I've been using FF3 for about 2 months, and although many things have improved during the beta phase it is generally about as memory and CPU heavy as FF2. The only real improvement I've observed as far as performance is concerned is javascript. I wish there were a light version available. I've tried galeon and epiphany, but both lacked features that I really like in FF and now that there is a great amount of extensions available it is harder to justify using another browser. Maybe it's time to switch back to konqueror. Justin -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability
Jason, That's totally weird. Couple things that could cause this -- try disabling any composting window managers you may have running to see if that makes a difference. Also, is your computer stressed out (100% cpu usage) when you view the page? I've noticed that, among other things, GUIs in general tend to crap out (lots of repeated/trailing graphics) when the CPU gets pegged -- could be caused by Flash, or alpha transparencies in CSS, Java, or anything really... You may want to submit that screen shot as a bug to http://bugzilla.mozilla.org and see if they can recommend anything. Interesting screen shot though! - Brian On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Jason Messerschmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Justin Findlay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On AD 2008 July 02 Wednesday 02:20:30 PM -0400, doki_pen wrote: +2 on firefox3. Faster, doesn't slow down after long use. I really see the difference with javascript. The engine is much faster. Just try a js heavy page(like google apps). I haven't had any crashes. Only complaint is that flash blocker(or maybe flash itself) doesn't always work. I have to reload a couple of times to get youtube to work. Also, some plugins haven't been ported yet. I compiled it, and here are my use flags: I've been using FF3 for about 2 months, and although many things have improved during the beta phase it is generally about as memory and CPU heavy as FF2. The only real improvement I've observed as far as performance is concerned is javascript. I wish there were a light version available. I've tried galeon and epiphany, but both lacked features that I really like in FF and now that there is a great amount of extensions available it is harder to justify using another browser. Maybe it's time to switch back to konqueror. Justin -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list I've noticed an odd visual glitch with blogspot pages- it superimposes my desktop on some pages. It's a bit hard to explain so here's a pic. As far as I know it's only this page, but might be good fodder for some of you troubleshooters out there.
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 4:39 PM, Jason Messerschmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Justin Findlay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On AD 2008 July 02 Wednesday 02:20:30 PM -0400, doki_pen wrote: +2 on firefox3. Faster, doesn't slow down after long use. I really see the difference with javascript. The engine is much faster. Just try a js heavy page(like google apps). I haven't had any crashes. Only complaint is that flash blocker(or maybe flash itself) doesn't always work. I have to reload a couple of times to get youtube to work. Also, some plugins haven't been ported yet. I compiled it, and here are my use flags: I've been using FF3 for about 2 months, and although many things have improved during the beta phase it is generally about as memory and CPU heavy as FF2. The only real improvement I've observed as far as performance is concerned is javascript. I wish there were a light version available. I've tried galeon and epiphany, but both lacked features that I really like in FF and now that there is a great amount of extensions available it is harder to justify using another browser. Maybe it's time to switch back to konqueror. I've noticed an odd visual glitch with blogspot pages- it superimposes my desktop on some pages. It's a bit hard to explain so here's a pic. As far as I know it's only this page, but might be good fodder for some of you troubleshooters out there. Lots of glitches with rendering some pages, its probably the webmaster's fault, but FF2 works with them, so I switched back. Also it is a little less memory and CPU hungry, but not that much. And, in my EEE PC I use a LOT of extensions that make my life easier, and like 50% of them do not work on FF3. I'll switch when FF3 is as good (for my personal use) as FF2. -- Daniel da Veiga -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability
On AD 2008 July 02 Wednesday 02:39:21 PM -0500, Jason Messerschmitt wrote: I've noticed an odd visual glitch with blogspot pages- it superimposes my desktop on some pages. It's a bit hard to explain so here's a pic. As far as I know it's only this page, but might be good fodder for some of you troubleshooters out there. I used to get that on several pages, but it hasn't happened for me since the release candidates. Justin -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability
080702 Justin Findlay wrote: Maybe it's time to switch back to konqueror. I was using Konqueror 3.5.9 till FF3 came out found it fast reliable; there was 1 bug which was causing crashes on some JS pages, but they fixed it in a new version of Kdelibs. FF3 is a bit faster at rendering uses less memory than K or FF2. Otherwise, it's nice in K to have the toolbar at the side of the screen, but it's quicker to open the bookmark menu in FF3 (also at side-screen). I've tried Galeon and Epiphany Epiphany is really today's replacement for the old good Galeon I used that on my previous (now stand-by) machine, but to use it on this machine I'ld have to install 49 Gnome pkgs (ugh). I asked before: do those having problems with FF3 perhaps use Gnome ? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Brian Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jason, That's totally weird. Couple things that could cause this -- try disabling any composting window managers you may have running to see if that makes a difference. Also, is your computer stressed out (100% cpu usage) when you view the page? I've noticed that, among other things, GUIs in general tend to crap out (lots of repeated/trailing graphics) when the CPU gets pegged -- could be caused by Flash, or alpha transparencies in CSS, Java, or anything really... You may want to submit that screen shot as a bug to http://bugzilla.mozilla.org and see if they can recommend anything. Interesting screen shot though! - Brian On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Jason Messerschmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Justin Findlay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On AD 2008 July 02 Wednesday 02:20:30 PM -0400, doki_pen wrote: +2 on firefox3. Faster, doesn't slow down after long use. I really see the difference with javascript. The engine is much faster. Just try a js heavy page(like google apps). I haven't had any crashes. Only complaint is that flash blocker(or maybe flash itself) doesn't always work. I have to reload a couple of times to get youtube to work. Also, some plugins haven't been ported yet. I compiled it, and here are my use flags: I've been using FF3 for about 2 months, and although many things have improved during the beta phase it is generally about as memory and CPU heavy as FF2. The only real improvement I've observed as far as performance is concerned is javascript. I wish there were a light version available. I've tried galeon and epiphany, but both lacked features that I really like in FF and now that there is a great amount of extensions available it is harder to justify using another browser. Maybe it's time to switch back to konqueror. Justin -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list I've noticed an odd visual glitch with blogspot pages- it superimposes my desktop on some pages. It's a bit hard to explain so here's a pic. As far as I know it's only this page, but might be good fodder for some of you troubleshooters out there. Turning off compositing had no effect. The CPU is at only 30% or so when running the page. Goof shit.
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability
This thread is getting depressing. I use Kubuntu at work and FF3 worked without a hitch since the beta. On Gentoo, FF2 works good, but I'm quite perplexed to see that FF3 is so many problems while a binary distro can flawlessly run a FF3 beta on its flagship release. What's wrong? m. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability
On Wednesday 02 July 2008 06:00:57 pm b.n. wrote: This thread is getting depressing. I use Kubuntu at work and FF3 worked without a hitch since the beta. On Gentoo, FF2 works good, but I'm quite perplexed to see that FF3 is so many problems while a binary distro can flawlessly run a FF3 beta on its flagship release. What's wrong? m. If I may chime in here... Running Gentoo x86 and firefox 3.0... no problems. Perhaps there's a hardware component to the problem? -- From the Desk of: Jerome D. McBride -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb
2008/7/2 Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Am Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2008 schrieb Ricardo Bevilacqua: I am sure that you could specify one file system type, but I am not too sure if this really works at any case because a DVD could not follow the ISO 9660 standard. As far as I know, some DVD's use the UDF Yes, what I wrote what auto is for. mount will find out wether the media is iso9660 or udf, but it will _not_ cause the media to be mounted automatically when inserted, as you wrote previously. Bye... Dirk Dirk, Sorry, I had misunderstood. But believe it or not, that way works fine for me. I insert a cdrom and gets automatically (or automagically maybe) mounted. I do not know, maybe is something about Gnome, but have no idea. Regards, Richard. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb
Ricardo Bevilacqua wrote: 2008/7/2 Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Am Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2008 schrieb Ricardo Bevilacqua: I am sure that you could specify one file system type, but I am not too sure if this really works at any case because a DVD could not follow the ISO 9660 standard. As far as I know, some DVD's use the UDF Yes, what I wrote what auto is for. mount will find out wether the media is iso9660 or udf, but it will _not_ cause the media to be mounted automatically when inserted, as you wrote previously. Bye... Dirk Dirk, Sorry, I had misunderstood. But believe it or not, that way works fine for me. I insert a cdrom and gets automatically (or automagically maybe) mounted. I do not know, maybe is something about Gnome, but have no idea. Regards, Richard. Do you have hal installed? It could be installed as a dependency of something else. Also check for ivman as well. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb
2008/7/2 Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ricardo Bevilacqua wrote: Dirk, Sorry, I had misunderstood. But believe it or not, that way works fine for me. I insert a cdrom and gets automatically (or automagically maybe) mounted. I do not know, maybe is something about Gnome, but have no idea. Regards, Richard. Do you have hal installed? It could be installed as a dependency of something else. Also check for ivman as well. Dale :-) :-) -- Dale, Yes, I have HAL installed. Is that enough to auto-mount a device? It seems that it is. Regards, Richard. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability
On AD 2008 July 02 Wednesday 04:38:00 PM -0400, Philip Webb wrote: I asked before: do those having problems with FF3 perhaps use Gnome ? I use enlightenment live CVS from the enlightenment overlay. My general experience with FF3 is that it's about the same performance wise as FF2. There were lots of bugs with the prereleases but otherwise not much difference from FF2. Justin -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb
NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA --- On Wed, 7/2/08, Ricardo Bevilacqua [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Ricardo Bevilacqua [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 11:49 AM 2008/7/2 Norman Hakim [EMAIL PROTECTED]: NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA Dear Mick Richard, This is the output after i mount it manually: mount: block device /dev/cdrom is write-proctected, mounting read-only Regards, Norman Norman, Good, you did it, you mounted your cdrom. That message is just a warning, and it is only extra information that the mount command shows you, so you do not have to face any surprises. That warning is only telling you (as I said before) that your cdrom is a read-only media. If you want cdrom to automatically mount when you insert a cd, just add this line to your /etc/fstab: /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,ro,user 0 0 And that should work just fine. Regards, Richard. -- Richard, I will try add this line to my /etc/fstab: /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,ro,user 0 0 i will paste it the output here if error occur. And about usb,what command should i add so that i can mount my thumbdrive? Regards, Norman -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's
For those still searching for background on this topic to try and understand the effects and discussions of the GPL vs CDDL licensing in other distros and how this may affect your use on Gentoo, you may find the respective articles on wikipedia instructive. Don't just read the brief blurbs included in Wikipedia, but take a look at the citations included in the articles as well. I'm not sure it gives all sides of the discussion, but it should be illuminating on some of the background details that people were requesting. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cdrtools#Licensing_change http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cdrkit#Fork Aaron P.S. I'm fully aware that the text of the wiki articles may be considered biased, that's a topic to take up on Wikipedia and not here. I'm just using the articles as a jumping point to what appear to be primary sources so people can draw their own conclusions. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: where is emacs-cvs-23.0.60 ?
Allan Gottlieb [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I see mention of emacs-cvs-23.0.60 is several places including bugs.gentoo.org, but I can't find it in portage. I am running 23.0.50 now with success. What ever is the most recent cvs version is what will get installed if you run `emerge emacs-cvs' The emerge will tap the emacs cvs repository for the latest code committed there. Run `emerge -vp emacs-cvs' and you should see it says it is installing emacs-cvs-23.0.9 Which really just means the latest cvs code committed. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild
on 06/27/2008 12:36 PM Zhang Le said the following: On 13:18 Thu 26 Jun , Alan McKinnon wrote: That info is still a bit skimpy though. Is there anything more somewhere? And what about FEATURES=preserve-libs, is that documented somewhere? All you need to do is to run 'emerge @preserved-rebuild' when you are reminded to. If you want to know the background, take a look: http://r0bertz.blogspot.com/2008/06/portage-22-preserve-libs-features.html Thanks for the pointer. I do have one additional question: What happens when a build in 'emerge @preserve-rebuild' fails? I'm assuming that 'emerge @preserve-rebuild' does something extra beyond a regular emerge, so I can't just 'emerge --skipfirst --resume'. If it only removes the listed, preserved libraries in addition to the emerge, then I can fix things up by hand by deleting the named libraries. --- Vladimir -- Vladimir G. Ivanovic signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] Curious emerge behaviour.
I went to run emerge update, and it threw this curious little block loop at me. emerge --pretend --quiet --update --deep world produces: [blocks B ] sys-apps/mktemp (is blocking sys-apps/coreutils-6.10-r2) [blocks B ] =sys-apps/coreutils-6.10 (is blocking sys-apps/mktemp-1.5) Anyone else having this particular problem? Is it a compatibility issue with either coreutils or mktemp? I'm assuming removing the one will eliminate it, but if it's a needed package I'd rather not chance it. Any info on this one would be greatly appreciated. James -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Curious emerge behaviour.
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 10:05 PM, James Homuth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I went to run emerge update, and it threw this curious little block loop at me. emerge --pretend --quiet --update --deep world produces: [blocks B ] sys-apps/mktemp (is blocking sys-apps/coreutils-6.10-r2) [blocks B ] =sys-apps/coreutils-6.10 (is blocking sys-apps/mktemp-1.5) Anyone else having this particular problem? Is it a compatibility issue with either coreutils or mktemp? I'm assuming removing the one will eliminate it, but if it's a needed package I'd rather not chance it. Any info on this one would be greatly appreciated. James -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list Yes, I've had this problem and I am sure many others did too...mktemp was a seperate package, but is now included in coreutils. All you have to do is emerge -C mktemp and then update to the new version of coreutils. I've done this on at least 3 comps, so it should work for you with no problems for you. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Curious emerge behaviour.
Am Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2008 schrieb ext James Homuth: I went to run emerge update, and it threw this curious little block loop at me. emerge --pretend --quiet --update --deep world produces: [blocks B ] sys-apps/mktemp (is blocking sys-apps/coreutils-6.10-r2) [blocks B ] =sys-apps/coreutils-6.10 (is blocking sys-apps/mktemp-1.5) Anyone else having this particular problem? Is it a compatibility issue with either coreutils or mktemp? I'm assuming removing the one will eliminate it, but if it's a needed package I'd rather not chance it. Any info on this one would be greatly appreciated. If you just searched the archives... New coreutils contains mktemp - coreutils blocks mktemp - emerge -C mktemp emerge coreutils HTH... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wanheimerstraße 68 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40468 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: wwwkeys.pgp.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Curious emerge behaviour.
Will the package itself be removed at some point? And if so, I'm assuming Portage will take care of killing it from my system at that point? At 01:26 AM 03/07/2008, you wrote: On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 10:05 PM, James Homuth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I went to run emerge update, and it threw this curious little block loop at me. emerge --pretend --quiet --update --deep world produces: [blocks B ] sys-apps/mktemp (is blocking sys-apps/coreutils-6.10-r2) [blocks B ] =sys-apps/coreutils-6.10 (is blocking sys-apps/mktemp-1.5) Anyone else having this particular problem? Is it a compatibility issue with either coreutils or mktemp? I'm assuming removing the one will eliminate it, but if it's a needed package I'd rather not chance it. Any info on this one would be greatly appreciated. James -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list Yes, I've had this problem and I am sure many others did too...mktemp was a seperate package, but is now included in coreutils. All you have to do is emerge -C mktemp and then update to the new version of coreutils. I've done this on at least 3 comps, so it should work for you with no problems for you. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Curious emerge behaviour.
On Thursday 03 July 2008, James Homuth wrote: I went to run emerge update, and it threw this curious little block loop at me. emerge --pretend --quiet --update --deep world produces: [blocks B ] sys-apps/mktemp (is blocking sys-apps/coreutils-6.10-r2) [blocks B ] =sys-apps/coreutils-6.10 (is blocking sys-apps/mktemp-1.5) Anyone else having this particular problem? Is it a compatibility issue with either coreutils or mktemp? I'm assuming removing the one will eliminate it, but if it's a needed package I'd rather not chance it. Any info on this one would be greatly appreciated. Pretty standrad blocker - been around for a while on ~arch. coreutils now provides what used to be in mktemp, so emerge -C mktemp ; emerge coreutils will sort it -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb
On Thursday 03 July 2008, Norman Hakim wrote: Richard, I will try add this line to my /etc/fstab: /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom auto noauto,ro,user 0 0 i will paste it the output here if error occur. And about usb,what command should i add so that i can mount my thumbdrive? These days it's much more common to let the desktop do that step for you. With a properly setup desktop, you can remove all references to cdroms and thumbdrives from fstab (leave only permanent mounts for disks etc in there) and rather use the icon that pops up on your desktop when you insert a usb drive. This works because fstab has no special qualities - it's just a list of standard drives you want to have mounted on your computer. What desktop do you use? I'm betting it's either gnome or kde -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb
On Wednesday 02 July 2008, Ricardo Bevilacqua wrote: Yes, I know. That is how it is explained as an example in the Gentoo Linux Handbook Chapter 8 [1] and it has worked for me so far. I am sure that you could specify one file system type, but I am not too sure if this really works at any case because a DVD could not follow the ISO 9660 standard. As far as I know, some DVD's use the UDF format. It only works if mount can figure out what the actual fs is at mount time. It does this by examining all known variations on the idea of a superblock. As long as a sane fs is in use, mounts invariably figures it out correctly. btw, all dvds use UDF, ISO9660 is a cd fs -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list