Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability

2008-07-02 Thread Gordon Schulz
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 6:24 AM, Adam Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm finding it unusable as it crashes often. How are you guys finding it?




Really fast, no crashes as of yet, totally satisified.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability

2008-07-02 Thread Boris Fersing
Hi,

I didn't experience any crash with Firefox3, the only problem I had
was a rendering issue with the resized pictures, but this bug is
related to xulrunner-1.9 and it can be fixed in the xorg config.

For me Firefox3 is a lot faster that Firefox2 and I don't have to
restart it every 3 days in order to make it responsive again.

Regards,
Boris.

On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 08:55, Gordon Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 6:24 AM, Adam Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm finding it unusable as it crashes often. How are you guys finding it?




 Really fast, no crashes as of yet, totally satisified.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability

2008-07-02 Thread Justin



Seems to randomly die, dont really see it as faster than FF2,
objectionable behaviour (jumping desktops when its called from another
app), ugly icons, ...


It will get better, ... I hope.

BillK

  


I started with a clean profile and got random crashes. It could be a 
little faster, but those crashes are nasty. The day ago I was at 20 
seconds befor the end of the auction and it crashes!!! Da..!




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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability

2008-07-02 Thread stephane ancelot
On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 06:24:49 +0200, Adam Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



I'm finding it unusable as it crashes often. How are you guys finding it?





Yes, move to last opera release, sounds better to me

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

2008-07-02 Thread Norman Hakim


NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA 


--- On Mon, 6/30/08, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Date: Monday, June 30, 2008, 4:50 PM
 On Monday 30 June 2008, Eduardo Otubo wrote:
  Hi again,
 
  In fact, just like Ricardo said, my congrats to a
 person who wants to
  learn Linux starting by Gentoo :-)
  But, back to the problem:
 
  Then, I insist at the point: As root, try to mount it
 manually and
  paste the output here:
 
  # mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
 
  Certify that /mnt/cdrom exists. :-)
 
 Or:
 
 $ dmesg | grep CD
 
 and:
 
 $ ls -la /dev/cd*
 
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Dear Mick  Richard,

This is the output after i mount it manually:

 mount: block device /dev/cdrom is write-proctected, mounting read-only

Regards,
Norman


  
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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability

2008-07-02 Thread Philip Webb
080702 Gordon Schulz wrote:
 On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 6:24 AM, Adam Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm finding it unusable as it crashes often. How are you guys finding it?
 Really fast, no crashes as of yet, totally satisified.

Same here on KDE 3.5.9 : are the dissatisfied using another DE (smile) ?
Also, it does use less memory, typically  400 MB  a/a  700 MB  at end of day.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability

2008-07-02 Thread Zhu Sha Zang
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Gordon Schulz escreveu:
 On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 6:24 AM, Adam Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm finding it unusable as it crashes often. How are you guys finding it?



 
 Really fast, no crashes as of yet, totally satisified.
 
 

ME TOO, so good!!! (using some addons like flashblock, noscript, gmail,
videodownloader)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CD/DVD burning tools?

2008-07-02 Thread Sebastian Günther
* Joerg Schilling ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [01.07.08 10:50]:
 
 There _is_ an evil conspiracy at least on Suse. Suse told me that they cannot 
 use unmodified original software and they need to modify my software.
 

But that's not an evil conspiracy against you, that's the normal policy 
of SuSe: they have to modify everything until it is broken.
 
I would not care too much about them...

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[gentoo-user] Re: Firefox 3 stability

2008-07-02 Thread 7v5w7go9ub0o

Adam Carter wrote:

I'm finding it unusable as it crashes often. How are you guys finding it?



I find the -bin version is stable, and works well with embedded flash 
(e.g. youtube).


(I find the new Opera is more stable, and when loaded without the mail 
programs (Opera -nomail -nolirc ) it absolutely flies.)


So Opera with JS, Flash, cookies, and IFrames off for general browsing; 
FF when I need to do media.


HTH



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[gentoo-user] where is emacs-cvs-23.0.60 ?

2008-07-02 Thread Allan Gottlieb
I see mention of emacs-cvs-23.0.60 is several places including
bugs.gentoo.org, but I can't find it in portage.  I am running
23.0.50 now with success.

thanks,
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[gentoo-user] Emerging SVN build when server is down

2008-07-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
I've just tried to emerge the svn ebuild of madwifi-ng after a kernel
update. I have previously merged this so I have working sources in
$DISTDIR/svn-src but svn.madwifi.org is down. The emerge bails out when
it is unable to contact the server, when I would prefer it to use the
existing sources. Is there a way to force portage to do this?

If not, I think I should file a bug on this as it is a significant
blocker. After all, if I didn't have a wired connection, the server would
always be unavailable until I remerged the package.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerging SVN build when server is down

2008-07-02 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 15:33 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 I've just tried to emerge the svn ebuild of madwifi-ng after a kernel
 update. I have previously merged this so I have working sources in
 $DISTDIR/svn-src but svn.madwifi.org is down. The emerge bails out when
 it is unable to contact the server, when I would prefer it to use the
 existing sources. Is there a way to force portage to do this?
 
 If not, I think I should file a bug on this as it is a significant
 blocker. After all, if I didn't have a wired connection, the server would
 always be unavailable until I remerged the package.
 
 
None of the madwifi-ng ebuilds in my portage tree have an svn source.
I'd be surprised if they did because the Gentoo devs generally
discourage subversion/cvs/etc. ebuilds.

Also lots of times a SRC_URI server is down or a mirror is out of sync
and we don't call them bugs; we call them crappy servers.

Now I'm not a Gentoo dev (anymore) but I wouldn't be surprised that if
you submitted a bug you'd get a WONTFIX or a patches welcomed
response.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerging SVN build when server is down

2008-07-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 09:48:22 -0500, Albert Hopkins wrote:

 None of the madwifi-ng ebuilds in my portage tree have an svn source.
 I'd be surprised if they did because the Gentoo devs generally
 discourage subversion/cvs/etc. ebuilds.

It's in an overlay, the portage ebuilds don't support my card. although
there are ebuilds in portage that use svn/cvs, like MythTV.

 Also lots of times a SRC_URI server is down or a mirror is out of sync
 and we don't call them bugs; we call them crappy servers.

Well, that is the root cause of the problem, or they didn't pay their
hosting bill! But it is better to work around such situations than blame
others.

The point is that I already have the sources in $DISTDIR, but portage
won't use them until it can verify that they are up to date. Since they
work and the server doesn't, I'd say that was a reasonable assumption.

 Now I'm not a Gentoo dev (anymore) but I wouldn't be surprised that if
 you submitted a bug you'd get a WONTFIX or a patches welcomed
 response.

I was hoping someone already knew a workaround, otherwise it makes it
impossible to build from source you have already downloaded and verified,
which sounds like a bug to me!


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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerging SVN build when server is down

2008-07-02 Thread Johann Schmitz

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Neil Bothwick wrote:
| I was hoping someone already knew a workaround, otherwise it makes it
| impossible to build from source you have already downloaded and verified,
| which sounds like a bug to me!

Hm. Edit the ebuild and temporarily disable the up-to-date check?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerging SVN build when server is down

2008-07-02 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
2008/7/2, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I've just tried to emerge the svn ebuild of madwifi-ng after a kernel
 update. I have previously merged this so I have working sources in
 $DISTDIR/svn-src but svn.madwifi.org is down. The emerge bails out when
 it is unable to contact the server, when I would prefer it to use the
 existing sources. Is there a way to force portage to do this?

 If not, I think I should file a bug on this as it is a significant
 blocker. After all, if I didn't have a wired connection, the server would
 always be unavailable until I remerged the package.

I have not tried this myself but you can try to copy $DISTDIR/svn-src
to $WORKDIR and use 'ebuild name-of-the-ebuild.ebuild
{install,qmerge}' to install it manually. See 'man ebuild' for
reference.

Maybe you should do 'ebuild name-of-the-ebuild.ebuild unpack' before
so hopefully all other stuff in $WORKDIR is created besides the work
folder itself which fails because of the missing sources. Then copy
the sources manually and run install and qmerge.

Regards,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerging SVN build when server is down

2008-07-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 17:10:58 +0200, Johann Schmitz wrote:

 | I was hoping someone already knew a workaround, otherwise it makes it
 | impossible to build from source you have already downloaded and
 | verified, which sounds like a bug to me!  
 
 Hm. Edit the ebuild and temporarily disable the up-to-date check?

That's all handled by the subversion eclass, and I don't want to mess
with that.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerging SVN build when server is down

2008-07-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 02 July 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 I've just tried to emerge the svn ebuild of madwifi-ng after a kernel
 update. I have previously merged this so I have working sources in
 $DISTDIR/svn-src but svn.madwifi.org is down. The emerge bails out
 when it is unable to contact the server, when I would prefer it to
 use the existing sources. Is there a way to force portage to do this?

There's an env var, something like ESVN_SERVER, that you can set 
to offline, and if the ebuild inherits the svn eclass, it won't try 
to checkout new sources.

You'll have to look in the eclass to find the correct name. I looked it 
up only once and noted that it's analogous to ECVS_SERVER (which I use 
often).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerging SVN build when server is down

2008-07-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 17:50:18 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

 There's an env var, something like ESVN_SERVER, that you can set 
 to offline, and if the ebuild inherits the svn eclass, it won't try 
 to checkout new sources.

Thanks Alan. The variable is ESVN_OFFLINE, which you set to anything
non-empty to skip the updates. I'd hoped portage was intelligent enough
to have a way to use existing svn sources. It is, it's just a user not
intelligent enough to find it :(

Thanks again!


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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerging SVN build when server is down

2008-07-02 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 17:37:39 +0200, Daniel Pielmeier wrote:

 I have not tried this myself but you can try to copy $DISTDIR/svn-src
 to $WORKDIR and use 'ebuild name-of-the-ebuild.ebuild
 {install,qmerge}' to install it manually. See 'man ebuild' for
 reference.

I was about to try this when Alan's suggestion arrived, which worked.
However, this is just the sort of kludgy approach that appeals to me :)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

2008-07-02 Thread Eduardo Otubo
Well,

I think you did it, man!
Just check out your /mnt/cdrom and see if your files are there :-)

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On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 8:29 AM, Norman Hakim
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA


 --- On Mon, 6/30/08, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Date: Monday, June 30, 2008, 4:50 PM
 On Monday 30 June 2008, Eduardo Otubo wrote:
  Hi again,
 
  In fact, just like Ricardo said, my congrats to a
 person who wants to
  learn Linux starting by Gentoo :-)
  But, back to the problem:
 
  Then, I insist at the point: As root, try to mount it
 manually and
  paste the output here:
 
  # mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
 
  Certify that /mnt/cdrom exists. :-)

 Or:

 $ dmesg | grep CD

 and:

 $ ls -la /dev/cd*

 --
 Regards,
 Mick

 Dear Mick  Richard,

 This is the output after i mount it manually:

  mount: block device /dev/cdrom is write-proctected, mounting read-only

 Regards,
 Norman



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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

2008-07-02 Thread Ricardo Bevilacqua
2008/7/2 Norman Hakim [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA

 Dear Mick  Richard,

 This is the output after i mount it manually:

  mount: block device /dev/cdrom is write-proctected, mounting read-only

 Regards,
 Norman

Norman,

Good, you did it, you mounted your cdrom. That message is just a
warning, and it is only extra information that the mount command
shows you, so you do not have to face any surprises.

That warning is only telling you (as I said before) that your cdrom is
a read-only media.

If you want cdrom to automatically mount when you insert a cd, just
add this line to your /etc/fstab:

/dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom  auto  noauto,ro,user 0 0

And that should work just fine.

Regards,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerging SVN build when server is down

2008-07-02 Thread Daniel Pielmeier

Neil Bothwick schrieb:

On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 17:37:39 +0200, Daniel Pielmeier wrote:


I have not tried this myself but you can try to copy $DISTDIR/svn-src
to $WORKDIR and use 'ebuild name-of-the-ebuild.ebuild
{install,qmerge}' to install it manually. See 'man ebuild' for
reference.


I was about to try this when Alan's suggestion arrived, which worked.
However, this is just the sort of kludgy approach that appeals to me :)




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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

2008-07-02 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2008 schrieb Ricardo Bevilacqua:
 If you want cdrom to automatically mount when you insert a cd, just
 add this line to your /etc/fstab:

 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom      auto      noauto,ro,user     0 0

Sorry, but that's nonsense. It tells the mount command that it should try to 
guess the filesystem type.

Bye...

Dirk


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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerging SVN build when server is down

2008-07-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 02 July 2008, Daniel Pielmeier wrote:
 Neil Bothwick schrieb:
  On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 17:37:39 +0200, Daniel Pielmeier wrote:
  I have not tried this myself but you can try to copy
  $DISTDIR/svn-src to $WORKDIR and use 'ebuild
  name-of-the-ebuild.ebuild
  {install,qmerge}' to install it manually. See 'man ebuild' for
  reference.
 
  I was about to try this when Alan's suggestion arrived, which
  worked. However, this is just the sort of kludgy approach that
  appeals to me :)

 Yeah, using the env variable is a bit smarter than my approach. ;-)

It may be smarter, but it's also, ho hum, so *ordinary*. I mean, env 
vars are supposed to be read by apps and modify their behaviour 
accordingly. And here I am, offering a solution that merely uses the 
system as designed. How boring

Elegantly misusing the ebuild command to get the correct result anyway - 
now that is a stroke of pure genius. I shall make a note of this in my 
journal, that my grandchildren, fifty years hence, may still appreciate 
how real men made operating systems back in the day.

:-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

2008-07-02 Thread Ricardo Bevilacqua
2008/7/2 Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Am Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2008 schrieb Ricardo Bevilacqua:
 If you want cdrom to automatically mount when you insert a cd, just
 add this line to your /etc/fstab:

 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom  auto  noauto,ro,user 0 0

 Sorry, but that's nonsense. It tells the mount command that it should try to
 guess the filesystem type.

 Bye...

Dirk


Dirk,

Yes, I know. That is how it is explained as an example in the Gentoo
Linux Handbook Chapter 8 [1] and it has worked for me so far. I am
sure that you could specify one file system type, but I am not too
sure if this really works at any case because a DVD could not follow
the ISO 9660 standard. As far as I know, some DVD's use the UDF
format.


Regards,

Richard.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

2008-07-02 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2008 schrieb Ricardo Bevilacqua:
 I am
 sure that you could specify one file system type, but I am not too
 sure if this really works at any case because a DVD could not follow
 the ISO 9660 standard. As far as I know, some DVD's use the UDF

Yes, what I wrote what auto is for. mount will find out wether the media 
is iso9660 or udf, but it will _not_ cause the media to be mounted 
automatically when inserted, as you wrote previously.

Bye...

Dirk


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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

2008-07-02 Thread Eduardo Otubo
In fact,

To we get those things really automactly mounted, we need to install
and configure 'ivman' and 'hald'. For those who speaks portuguese I
have a great tutorial writen by a friend of mine:
http://nottooamused.wordpress.com/2007/02/27/montando-dispositivos-automaticamente-no-gnulinux/

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On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Am Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2008 schrieb Ricardo Bevilacqua:
 I am
 sure that you could specify one file system type, but I am not too
 sure if this really works at any case because a DVD could not follow
 the ISO 9660 standard. As far as I know, some DVD's use the UDF

 Yes, what I wrote what auto is for. mount will find out wether the media
 is iso9660 or udf, but it will _not_ cause the media to be mounted
 automatically when inserted, as you wrote previously.

 Bye...

Dirk




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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability

2008-07-02 Thread doki_pen

Adam Carter wrote:

I'm finding it unusable as it crashes often. How are you guys finding it?




  
+2 on firefox3.  Faster, doesn't slow down after long use.  I really see 
the difference with javascript.  The engine is much faster.  Just try a 
js heavy page(like google apps).  I haven't had any crashes.  Only 
complaint is that flash blocker(or maybe flash itself) doesn't always 
work.  I have to reload a couple of times to get youtube to work.  Also, 
some plugins haven't been ported yet.  I compiled it, and here are my 
use flags:


dbus gnome ipv6 java linguas_en linguas_en_US mozdevelop 
startup-notification xulrunner

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[gentoo-user] Myspell and Linguas variable

2008-07-02 Thread Thomas Pedersen

Hey

Was just going to install my dictionaries for myspell, when I was 
wondering why myspell doesn't pull in the dictionaries depending on the 
languages in the LINGUAS variable in make.conf ??
- This method wouldn't require the user to be aware of the dictionaries 
when uninstalling myspell (or what ever might be depending on it)


Just a thought to make the world just a little bit easier

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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability

2008-07-02 Thread Justin Findlay
On AD 2008 July 02 Wednesday 02:20:30 PM -0400, doki_pen wrote:
 +2 on firefox3.  Faster, doesn't slow down after long use.  I really see 
 the difference with javascript.  The engine is much faster.  Just try a js 
 heavy page(like google apps).  I haven't had any crashes.  Only complaint 
 is that flash blocker(or maybe flash itself) doesn't always work.  I have 
 to reload a couple of times to get youtube to work.  Also, some plugins 
 haven't been ported yet.  I compiled it, and here are my use flags:

I've been using FF3 for about 2 months, and although many things have
improved during the beta phase it is generally about as memory and CPU
heavy as FF2.  The only real improvement I've observed as far as
performance is concerned is javascript.  I wish there were a light
version available.  I've tried galeon and epiphany, but both lacked
features that I really like in FF and now that there is a great amount
of extensions available it is harder to justify using another browser.
Maybe it's time to switch back to konqueror.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability

2008-07-02 Thread Brian Johnson
Jason,

That's totally weird. Couple things that could cause this -- try disabling
any composting window managers you may have running to see if that makes a
difference. Also, is your computer stressed out (100% cpu usage) when you
view the page? I've noticed that, among other things, GUIs in general tend
to crap out (lots of repeated/trailing graphics) when the CPU gets pegged --
could be caused by Flash, or alpha transparencies in CSS, Java, or anything
really...

You may want to submit that screen shot as a bug to
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org and see if they can recommend anything.

Interesting screen shot though!

- Brian

On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Jason Messerschmitt 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Justin Findlay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On AD 2008 July 02 Wednesday 02:20:30 PM -0400, doki_pen wrote:
  +2 on firefox3.  Faster, doesn't slow down after long use.  I really see
  the difference with javascript.  The engine is much faster.  Just try a
 js
  heavy page(like google apps).  I haven't had any crashes.  Only
 complaint
  is that flash blocker(or maybe flash itself) doesn't always work.  I
 have
  to reload a couple of times to get youtube to work.  Also, some plugins
  haven't been ported yet.  I compiled it, and here are my use flags:

 I've been using FF3 for about 2 months, and although many things have
 improved during the beta phase it is generally about as memory and CPU
 heavy as FF2.  The only real improvement I've observed as far as
 performance is concerned is javascript.  I wish there were a light
 version available.  I've tried galeon and epiphany, but both lacked
 features that I really like in FF and now that there is a great amount
 of extensions available it is harder to justify using another browser.
 Maybe it's time to switch back to konqueror.


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 I've noticed an odd visual glitch with blogspot pages- it superimposes my
 desktop on some pages. It's a bit hard to explain so here's a pic. As far as
 I know it's only this page, but might be good fodder for some of you
 troubleshooters out there.




Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability

2008-07-02 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 4:39 PM, Jason Messerschmitt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Justin Findlay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On AD 2008 July 02 Wednesday 02:20:30 PM -0400, doki_pen wrote:
  +2 on firefox3.  Faster, doesn't slow down after long use.  I really see
  the difference with javascript.  The engine is much faster.  Just try a
  js
  heavy page(like google apps).  I haven't had any crashes.  Only
  complaint
  is that flash blocker(or maybe flash itself) doesn't always work.  I
  have
  to reload a couple of times to get youtube to work.  Also, some plugins
  haven't been ported yet.  I compiled it, and here are my use flags:

 I've been using FF3 for about 2 months, and although many things have
 improved during the beta phase it is generally about as memory and CPU
 heavy as FF2.  The only real improvement I've observed as far as
 performance is concerned is javascript.  I wish there were a light
 version available.  I've tried galeon and epiphany, but both lacked
 features that I really like in FF and now that there is a great amount
 of extensions available it is harder to justify using another browser.
 Maybe it's time to switch back to konqueror.



 I've noticed an odd visual glitch with blogspot pages- it superimposes my
 desktop on some pages. It's a bit hard to explain so here's a pic. As far as
 I know it's only this page, but might be good fodder for some of you
 troubleshooters out there.



Lots of glitches with rendering some pages, its probably the
webmaster's fault, but FF2 works with them, so I switched back. Also
it is a little less memory and CPU hungry, but not that much. And, in
my EEE PC I use a LOT of extensions that make my life easier, and like
50% of them do not work on FF3.

I'll switch when FF3 is as good (for my personal use) as FF2.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability

2008-07-02 Thread Justin Findlay
On AD 2008 July 02 Wednesday 02:39:21 PM -0500, Jason Messerschmitt wrote:
 I've noticed an odd visual glitch with blogspot pages- it superimposes my
 desktop on some pages. It's a bit hard to explain so here's a pic. As far as
 I know it's only this page, but might be good fodder for some of you
 troubleshooters out there.

I used to get that on several pages, but it hasn't happened for me since
the release candidates.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability

2008-07-02 Thread Philip Webb
080702 Justin Findlay wrote:
 Maybe it's time to switch back to konqueror.

I was using Konqueror 3.5.9 till FF3 came out  found it fast  reliable;
there was  1  bug which was causing crashes on some JS pages,
but they fixed it in a new version of Kdelibs.
FF3 is a bit faster at rendering  uses less memory than K or FF2.
Otherwise, it's nice in K to have the toolbar at the side of the screen,
but it's quicker to open the bookmark menu in FF3 (also at side-screen).

 I've tried Galeon and Epiphany

Epiphany is really today's replacement for the old  good Galeon
 I used that on my previous (now stand-by) machine,
but to use it on this machine I'ld have to install  49  Gnome pkgs (ugh).

I asked before: do those having problems with FF3 perhaps use Gnome ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability

2008-07-02 Thread Jason Messerschmitt
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Brian Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Jason,

 That's totally weird. Couple things that could cause this -- try disabling
 any composting window managers you may have running to see if that makes a
 difference. Also, is your computer stressed out (100% cpu usage) when you
 view the page? I've noticed that, among other things, GUIs in general tend
 to crap out (lots of repeated/trailing graphics) when the CPU gets pegged --
 could be caused by Flash, or alpha transparencies in CSS, Java, or anything
 really...

 You may want to submit that screen shot as a bug to
 http://bugzilla.mozilla.org and see if they can recommend anything.

 Interesting screen shot though!

 - Brian


 On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Jason Messerschmitt 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Justin Findlay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 On AD 2008 July 02 Wednesday 02:20:30 PM -0400, doki_pen wrote:
  +2 on firefox3.  Faster, doesn't slow down after long use.  I really
 see
  the difference with javascript.  The engine is much faster.  Just try a
 js
  heavy page(like google apps).  I haven't had any crashes.  Only
 complaint
  is that flash blocker(or maybe flash itself) doesn't always work.  I
 have
  to reload a couple of times to get youtube to work.  Also, some plugins
  haven't been ported yet.  I compiled it, and here are my use flags:

 I've been using FF3 for about 2 months, and although many things have
 improved during the beta phase it is generally about as memory and CPU
 heavy as FF2.  The only real improvement I've observed as far as
 performance is concerned is javascript.  I wish there were a light
 version available.  I've tried galeon and epiphany, but both lacked
 features that I really like in FF and now that there is a great amount
 of extensions available it is harder to justify using another browser.
 Maybe it's time to switch back to konqueror.


 Justin
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 I've noticed an odd visual glitch with blogspot pages- it superimposes my
 desktop on some pages. It's a bit hard to explain so here's a pic. As far as
 I know it's only this page, but might be good fodder for some of you
 troubleshooters out there.


 Turning off compositing had no effect. The CPU is at only 30% or so when
running the page. Goof shit.


Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability

2008-07-02 Thread b.n.

This thread is getting depressing.

I use Kubuntu at work and FF3 worked without a hitch since the beta.

On Gentoo, FF2 works good, but I'm quite perplexed to see that FF3 is so 
many problems while a binary distro can flawlessly run a FF3 beta on its 
flagship release.


What's wrong?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability

2008-07-02 Thread Jerry McBride
On Wednesday 02 July 2008 06:00:57 pm b.n. wrote:
 This thread is getting depressing.

 I use Kubuntu at work and FF3 worked without a hitch since the beta.

 On Gentoo, FF2 works good, but I'm quite perplexed to see that FF3 is so
 many problems while a binary distro can flawlessly run a FF3 beta on its
 flagship release.

 What's wrong?

 m.

If I may chime in here... Running Gentoo x86 and firefox 3.0... no problems. 
Perhaps there's a hardware component to the problem?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

2008-07-02 Thread Ricardo Bevilacqua
2008/7/2 Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Am Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2008 schrieb Ricardo Bevilacqua:
 I am
 sure that you could specify one file system type, but I am not too
 sure if this really works at any case because a DVD could not follow
 the ISO 9660 standard. As far as I know, some DVD's use the UDF

 Yes, what I wrote what auto is for. mount will find out wether the media
 is iso9660 or udf, but it will _not_ cause the media to be mounted
 automatically when inserted, as you wrote previously.

 Bye...

Dirk


Dirk,

Sorry, I had misunderstood.

But believe it or not, that way works fine for me. I insert a cdrom
and gets automatically (or automagically maybe) mounted.

I do not know, maybe is something about Gnome, but have no idea.

Regards,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

2008-07-02 Thread Dale

Ricardo Bevilacqua wrote:

2008/7/2 Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  

Am Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2008 schrieb Ricardo Bevilacqua:


I am
sure that you could specify one file system type, but I am not too
sure if this really works at any case because a DVD could not follow
the ISO 9660 standard. As far as I know, some DVD's use the UDF
  

Yes, what I wrote what auto is for. mount will find out wether the media
is iso9660 or udf, but it will _not_ cause the media to be mounted
automatically when inserted, as you wrote previously.

Bye...

   Dirk




Dirk,

Sorry, I had misunderstood.

But believe it or not, that way works fine for me. I insert a cdrom
and gets automatically (or automagically maybe) mounted.

I do not know, maybe is something about Gnome, but have no idea.

Regards,

Richard.
  


Do you have hal installed?  It could be installed as a dependency of 
something else.  Also check for ivman as well.


Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

2008-07-02 Thread Ricardo Bevilacqua
2008/7/2 Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Ricardo Bevilacqua wrote:

 Dirk,

 Sorry, I had misunderstood.

 But believe it or not, that way works fine for me. I insert a cdrom
 and gets automatically (or automagically maybe) mounted.

 I do not know, maybe is something about Gnome, but have no idea.

 Regards,

 Richard.


 Do you have hal installed?  It could be installed as a dependency of
 something else.  Also check for ivman as well.

 Dale

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Dale,

Yes, I have HAL installed. Is that enough to auto-mount a device? It
seems that it is.

Regards,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability

2008-07-02 Thread Justin Findlay
On AD 2008 July 02 Wednesday 04:38:00 PM -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
 I asked before: do those having problems with FF3 perhaps use Gnome ?

I use enlightenment live CVS from the enlightenment overlay.  My general
experience with FF3 is that it's about the same performance wise as FF2.
There were lots of bugs with the prereleases but otherwise not much
difference from FF2.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

2008-07-02 Thread Norman Hakim


NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA 


--- On Wed, 7/2/08, Ricardo Bevilacqua [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Ricardo Bevilacqua [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 11:49 AM
 2008/7/2 Norman Hakim [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 
  NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA
 
  Dear Mick  Richard,
 
  This is the output after i mount it manually:
 
   mount: block device /dev/cdrom is write-proctected,
 mounting read-only
 
  Regards,
  Norman
 
 Norman,
 
 Good, you did it, you mounted your cdrom. That message is
 just a
 warning, and it is only extra information that the
 mount command
 shows you, so you do not have to face any surprises.
 
 That warning is only telling you (as I said before) that
 your cdrom is
 a read-only media.
 
 If you want cdrom to automatically mount when you insert a
 cd, just
 add this line to your /etc/fstab:
 
 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom  auto  noauto,ro,user 0 0
 
 And that should work just fine.
 
 Regards,
 
 Richard.
 -- 

Richard,

I will try add this line to my /etc/fstab:

/dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom  auto  noauto,ro,user 0 0

i will paste it the output here if error occur. And about usb,what command 
should i add so that i can mount my thumbdrive?


Regards,
Norman





  
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Re: [gentoo-user] CD ROM does not play audio CD's

2008-07-02 Thread Aaron Clark
For those still searching for background on this topic to try and  
understand the effects and discussions of the GPL vs CDDL licensing in  
other distros and how this may affect your use on Gentoo, you may find  
the respective articles on wikipedia instructive.  Don't just read the  
brief blurbs included in Wikipedia, but take a look at the citations  
included in the articles as well.  I'm not sure it gives all sides of  
the discussion, but it should be illuminating on some of the  
background details that people were requesting.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cdrtools#Licensing_change
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cdrkit#Fork

Aaron

P.S. I'm fully aware that the text of the wiki articles may be  
considered biased, that's a topic to take up on Wikipedia and not  
here.  I'm just using the articles as a jumping point to what appear  
to be primary sources so people can draw their own conclusions.

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[gentoo-user] Re: where is emacs-cvs-23.0.60 ?

2008-07-02 Thread Harry Putnam
Allan Gottlieb [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I see mention of emacs-cvs-23.0.60 is several places including
 bugs.gentoo.org, but I can't find it in portage.  I am running
 23.0.50 now with success.

What ever is the most recent cvs version is what will get installed if
you run `emerge emacs-cvs'

The emerge will tap the emacs cvs repository for the latest code
committed there.

Run `emerge -vp emacs-cvs' and you should see it says it is installing
emacs-cvs-23.0.9

Which really just means the latest cvs code committed.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild

2008-07-02 Thread Vladimir G. Ivanovic

on 06/27/2008 12:36 PM Zhang Le said the following:

On 13:18 Thu 26 Jun , Alan McKinnon wrote:
That info is still a bit skimpy though. Is there anything more 
somewhere? And what about FEATURES=preserve-libs, is that documented 
somewhere?


All you need to do is to run 'emerge @preserved-rebuild' when you are reminded
to.
If you want to know the background, take a look:
http://r0bertz.blogspot.com/2008/06/portage-22-preserve-libs-features.html


Thanks for the pointer.

I do have one additional question: What happens when a build in 
'emerge @preserve-rebuild' fails?


I'm assuming that 'emerge @preserve-rebuild' does something extra 
beyond a regular emerge, so I can't just 'emerge --skipfirst 
--resume'. If it only removes the listed, preserved libraries in 
addition to the emerge, then I can fix things up by hand by deleting 
the named libraries.


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[gentoo-user] Curious emerge behaviour.

2008-07-02 Thread James Homuth
I went to run emerge update, and it threw this curious little block 
loop at me. emerge --pretend --quiet --update --deep world produces:
[blocks B ] sys-apps/mktemp (is blocking 
sys-apps/coreutils-6.10-r2) 

[blocks B ] =sys-apps/coreutils-6.10 (is blocking 
sys-apps/mktemp-1.5)


Anyone else having this particular problem? Is it a compatibility 
issue with either coreutils or mktemp? I'm assuming removing the one 
will eliminate it, but if it's a needed package I'd rather not chance 
it. Any info on this one would be greatly appreciated.


James

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Re: [gentoo-user] Curious emerge behaviour.

2008-07-02 Thread Andrey Falko
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 10:05 PM, James Homuth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I went to run emerge update, and it threw this curious little block loop at
 me. emerge --pretend --quiet --update --deep world produces:
 [blocks B ] sys-apps/mktemp (is blocking sys-apps/coreutils-6.10-r2)
 [blocks B ] =sys-apps/coreutils-6.10 (is blocking sys-apps/mktemp-1.5)

 Anyone else having this particular problem? Is it a compatibility issue with
 either coreutils or mktemp? I'm assuming removing the one will eliminate it,
 but if it's a needed package I'd rather not chance it. Any info on this one
 would be greatly appreciated.

 James

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Yes, I've had this problem and I am sure many others did too...mktemp
was a seperate package, but is now included in coreutils. All you have
to do is emerge -C mktemp and then update to the new version of
coreutils. I've done this on at least 3 comps, so it should work for
you with no problems for you.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Curious emerge behaviour.

2008-07-02 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2008 schrieb ext James Homuth:
 I went to run emerge update, and it threw this curious little block
 loop at me. emerge --pretend --quiet --update --deep world produces:
 [blocks B ] sys-apps/mktemp (is blocking
 sys-apps/coreutils-6.10-r2)

 [blocks B ] =sys-apps/coreutils-6.10 (is blocking
 sys-apps/mktemp-1.5)

 Anyone else having this particular problem? Is it a compatibility
 issue with either coreutils or mktemp? I'm assuming removing the one
 will eliminate it, but if it's a needed package I'd rather not chance
 it. Any info on this one would be greatly appreciated.

If you just searched the archives...

New coreutils contains mktemp - coreutils blocks mktemp - emerge -C mktemp 
 emerge coreutils

HTH...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Curious emerge behaviour.

2008-07-02 Thread James Homuth
Will the package itself be removed at some point? And if so, I'm 
assuming Portage will take care of killing it from my system at that point?

At 01:26 AM 03/07/2008, you wrote:

On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 10:05 PM, James Homuth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I went to run emerge update, and it threw this curious little block loop at
 me. emerge --pretend --quiet --update --deep world produces:
 [blocks B ] sys-apps/mktemp (is blocking sys-apps/coreutils-6.10-r2)
 [blocks B ] =sys-apps/coreutils-6.10 (is blocking sys-apps/mktemp-1.5)

 Anyone else having this particular problem? Is it a compatibility 
issue with
 either coreutils or mktemp? I'm assuming removing the one will 
eliminate it,

 but if it's a needed package I'd rather not chance it. Any info on this one
 would be greatly appreciated.

 James

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Yes, I've had this problem and I am sure many others did too...mktemp
was a seperate package, but is now included in coreutils. All you have
to do is emerge -C mktemp and then update to the new version of
coreutils. I've done this on at least 3 comps, so it should work for
you with no problems for you.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Curious emerge behaviour.

2008-07-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 03 July 2008, James Homuth wrote:
 I went to run emerge update, and it threw this curious little block
 loop at me. emerge --pretend --quiet --update --deep world
 produces: [blocks B ] sys-apps/mktemp (is blocking
 sys-apps/coreutils-6.10-r2)

 [blocks B ] =sys-apps/coreutils-6.10 (is blocking
 sys-apps/mktemp-1.5)

 Anyone else having this particular problem? Is it a compatibility
 issue with either coreutils or mktemp? I'm assuming removing the one
 will eliminate it, but if it's a needed package I'd rather not chance
 it. Any info on this one would be greatly appreciated.

Pretty standrad blocker - been around for a while on ~arch.

coreutils now provides what used to be in mktemp, so

emerge -C mktemp ; emerge coreutils

will sort it



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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

2008-07-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 03 July 2008, Norman Hakim wrote:
 Richard,

 I will try add this line to my /etc/fstab:

 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom      auto      noauto,ro,user     0 0

 i will paste it the output here if error occur. And about usb,what
 command should i add so that i can mount my thumbdrive?

These days it's much more common to let the desktop do that step for 
you. With a properly setup desktop, you can remove all references to 
cdroms and thumbdrives from fstab (leave only permanent mounts for 
disks etc in there) and rather use the icon that pops up on your 
desktop when you insert a usb drive.

This works because fstab has no special qualities - it's just a list of 
standard drives you want to have mounted on your computer.

What desktop do you use? I'm betting it's either gnome or kde

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

2008-07-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 02 July 2008, Ricardo Bevilacqua wrote:
 Yes, I know. That is how it is explained as an example in the Gentoo
 Linux Handbook Chapter 8 [1] and it has worked for me so far. I am
 sure that you could specify one file system type, but I am not too
 sure if this really works at any case because a DVD could not follow
 the ISO 9660 standard. As far as I know, some DVD's use the UDF
 format.

It only works if mount can figure out what the actual fs is at mount 
time. It does this by examining all known variations on the idea of a 
superblock. As long as a sane fs is in use, mounts invariably figures 
it out correctly.

btw, all dvds use UDF, ISO9660 is a cd fs

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