Re: [gentoo-user] Eth0 interface not found - udev

2013-04-06 Thread Joseph
On 04/07/13 04:06, Stroller wrote: On 6 April 2013, at 16:57, Alan Mackenzie wrote: ... Please excuse me, I am running back and forth from the servers and typing the error message here. Did our configuration get switched to IP6? These are our DB servers and why me!!! Why ME! No, it's not

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev update and persistent net rules changes

2013-04-06 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sat, Apr 06, 2013 at 09:46:13PM +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote > Ah, thanks for the clarification! :-) > > So, from now on, for safety I'm going to use a custom naming scheme, > like lan[0-9]+ or wan[0-9]+ or wifi[0-9]+, anything that won't > collide with kernel names of eth[0-9]+ > > Now I only h

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev update and persistent net rules changes

2013-04-06 Thread Michael Mol
On 04/06/2013 11:06 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2013-04-06, Pandu Poluan wrote: > >> Ahhh... I think now I understand... >> >> So. Here's my summarization of the situation: >> >> * The ethX naming can change, i.e., the interfaces can get out of order >> * So, to fix this, udev decided to use th

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Eth0 interface not found - udev that little slut!!!!!

2013-04-06 Thread Michael Mol
On 04/06/2013 11:19 PM, Nick Khamis wrote: > Hello Michael, > >>> Is it because you disabled udev's renaming entirely via the kernel >>> command-line parameter? >> Because you've done some magic in >>> /etc/udev/rules.d/? > > I did not change 70-something contents. I deleted it and let udev reg

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Eth0 interface not found - udev that little slut!!!!!

2013-04-06 Thread Nick Khamis
Hello Michael, >> Is it because you disabled udev's renaming entirely via the kernel >> command-line parameter? >> Because you've done some magic in >> /etc/udev/rules.d/? I did not change 70-something contents. I deleted it and let udev regenerate it. The name in rules.d is net=eth0 and net=e

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Eth0 interface not found - udev that little slut!!!!!

2013-04-06 Thread Michael Mol
The problem is that the definition of 'correctly' has changed. I don't know if this is 'correctly' from your perspective of 'this is how I'm used to seeing it' or 'correctly' from any of the three or more ways one could use udev. The various defintions of 'correctly' may not overlap. If they're sh

Re: [gentoo-user] Eth0 interface not found - udev

2013-04-06 Thread Stroller
On 6 April 2013, at 16:57, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > ... >> Please excuse me, I am running back and forth from the servers and >> typing the error message here. Did our configuration get switched to >> IP6? These are our DB servers and why me!!! Why ME! > > No, it's not just you, it's happened

[gentoo-user] Re: Udev update and persistent net rules changes

2013-04-06 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-04-06, Pandu Poluan wrote: > Ahhh... I think now I understand... > > So. Here's my summarization of the situation: > > * The ethX naming can change, i.e., the interfaces can get out of order > * So, to fix this, udev decided to use the physical attachment points of > the NIC in driving a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Eth0 interface not found - udev that little slut!!!!!

2013-04-06 Thread Nick Khamis
Can't do nothing right now, no network connection... Don't feel like burning a livecd and chrooting to jail... N. On 4/6/13, Randy Barlow wrote: > On Sat, 6 Apr 2013 22:35:22 -0400 > Nick Khamis wrote: >> As for /sbin/ip. I have no such command. > > I'd recommend installing and becoming familia

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Eth0 interface not found - udev that little slut!!!!!

2013-04-06 Thread Randy Barlow
On Sat, 6 Apr 2013 22:35:22 -0400 Nick Khamis wrote: > As for /sbin/ip. I have no such command. I'd recommend installing and becoming familiar with the iproute2 package. I personally find the tools it delivers to be more intuitive than the older tools, and I *think* they are considered to obsolot

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Eth0 interface not found - udev that little slut!!!!!

2013-04-06 Thread Nick Khamis
ifconfig -a and ifconfig eth0 etc.. lists the interfaces correctly. When trying to start net.eth0 the error that struck me as odd was: /lib64/rc/net/wpa_supplicant.sh: line 68: _is_wireless: command not found /etc/init.d/net.eth0: line 548: _exists: command not found Sorry I can't paste stuff dir

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Eth0 interface not found - udev that little slut!!!!!

2013-04-06 Thread Michael Mol
It's probably not a module issue. Are these interfaces supposed to be DHCP-configured, or are they supposed to be statically and locally configured? If they're supposed to be configured via DHCP, try "dhclient $interface_name". If they're supposed to be statically configured, try using ifconfig t

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Eth0 interface not found - udev that little slut!!!!!

2013-04-06 Thread Nick Khamis
Sorry I did mean /sbin/ip... Long day. Regardless, /sbin/ipmaddr does now show any ipv4 related material. Other than the network card driver, what module should I ensure is loaded for ipv4 related stuff. As for /etc/conf.d/net, net.eth0/eth1 these were untouched and still point to eth0 and eth1. A

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Eth0 interface not found - udev that little slut!!!!!

2013-04-06 Thread Michael Mol
/sbin/ip, not /etc/ip Those inet6 addresses beginning with ff02 are link-local addresses. Those are automatically configured on a link simply by the link being up. Something is failing to configure your interfaces' ipv4 settings. The culprit is almost certainly somewhere in one of these places,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Eth0 interface not found - udev that little slut!!!!!

2013-04-06 Thread Matthew Marlowe
Read the news entry - add the designated option to your grub kernel line - reboot. That will be the simplest solution for now. Long term, avoid udev upgrades like the plague and test them on non-critical systems first. Strange that the reason I think us server people were OK with udev being add

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Eth0 interface not found - udev that little slut!!!!!

2013-04-06 Thread Nick Khamis
I do not have /etc/ip however, I do have /etc/ipmaddr show: 1: lo inet6 ff02::1 2: sit0 inte6 ff02::1 3: eth0 link 33:33:00:00:00:01 inet6 ff02:1 4: eth1 link 33:33:00:00:00:01 inet6 ff02:1 Too much inte6 for my liking... Did I somehow get rid of ipv4? N. On 4/6/13, Michael

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Eth0 interface not found - udev that little slut!!!!!

2013-04-06 Thread Michael Mol
On 04/06/2013 08:53 PM, Nick Khamis wrote: > I took a closer look at /etc/udev/70-something-rules-net and > /sys/class/net/eth0/ and all the ATTR (i.e., address, type, dev_id) > line up fine. I did not find a "name" file in /sys/class/net/eth0 however, > name=eth0 in etc/udev/70-something-rules-net

Re: [gentoo-user] Eth0 interface not found - udev that little slut!!!!!

2013-04-06 Thread Nick Khamis
The problem with eudev is that we are using the hardened profile and not sure if it is part of our source tree. Right now, I just would like to pinpoint this stubborn little issue I just wanted to mention that name did not change. ifconfig eth0 still pulls up the interface, and same for ifconf

Re: [gentoo-user] Eth0 interface not found - udev that little slut!!!!!

2013-04-06 Thread William Kenworthy
On 07/04/13 01:10, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > 'Evening, Alan. > > On Sat, Apr 06, 2013 at 06:36:07PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 06/04/2013 17:57, Alan Mackenzie wrote: Please excuse me, I am running back and forth from the servers and > typing the error message here. Did our configura

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Eth0 interface not found - udev that little slut!!!!!

2013-04-06 Thread Nick Khamis
I took a closer look at /etc/udev/70-something-rules-net and /sys/class/net/eth0/ and all the ATTR (i.e., address, type, dev_id) line up fine. I did not find a "name" file in /sys/class/net/eth0 however, name=eth0 in etc/udev/70-something-rules-net. Ifconfig alone returns nothing. Ifconfig eth0/1

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Udev update and persistent net rules changes

2013-04-06 Thread ny6p01
On Thu, Apr 04, 2013 at 06:37:22PM +0200, J??rg Schaible wrote: > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > On Wed, 3 Apr 2013 16:38:28 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > > > >> > Have you read the news item? > >> > >> Yes. I found it rather confusing. > >> > >> It refers to a "new format" for rules, but th

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Eth0 interface not found - udev that little slut!!!!!

2013-04-06 Thread Nick Khamis
In attempted to delete 70-something rules from /etc/udev/rules.d/ and it was recreated on boot with the same content. I don't think the device got renamed since "ifconfig eth0" shows the correct info. Your help is greatly appreciated, N. On 4/6/13, Nick Khamis wrote: > Well I looked into "/sys/

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Eth0 interface not found - udev that little slut!!!!!

2013-04-06 Thread Nick Khamis
Well I looked into "/sys/class/net" as mentioned by Alan. In there I see eth0/ eth1/ lo/ and sit0/. Not sure what too look for in (e.g. eth0/). /sys/class/net/eth0/ifindex says 3. Other files look ok, for example address (contains mac address if that has not changed...). N. On 4/6/13, Volker Arm

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Eth0 interface not found - udev that little slut!!!!!

2013-04-06 Thread Michael Hampicke
Am 06.04.2013 23:28, schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: > Am 06.04.2013 23:19, schrieb Nick Khamis: >> Our net card was also build as a module Volker, did you include >> your net driver for example in /etc/conf.d/modules? > > no > I removed the 70-something rules, and did pretty much nothing else.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Eth0 interface not found - udev that little slut!!!!!

2013-04-06 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 06.04.2013 23:19, schrieb Nick Khamis: > Our net card was also build as a module Volker, did you include > your net driver for example in /etc/conf.d/modules? no I removed the 70-something rules, and did pretty much nothing else. /etc/udev/rules.d/80-net-name-slot.rules just exists and is f

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Eth0 interface not found - udev that little slut!!!!!

2013-04-06 Thread Nick Khamis
Our net card was also build as a module Volker, did you include your net driver for example in /etc/conf.d/modules? N. On 4/6/13, Nick Khamis wrote: > Oh dear what did I start!@!@! I'm sorry, I did not know this was a > machine brewing. Don't follow the mailing list all that often. I > updat

Re: [gentoo-user] Eth0 interface not found - udev that little slut!!!!!

2013-04-06 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-04-06 1:50 PM, Jarry wrote: Well, in my case 80-net-names-slot.rules was neither empty, nor symlink to dev null, but FULL OF COMMENTS AND NOTING ELSE, Well... even I know enough to reason that 'empty' in this context means no UNcommented lines. Comments are just that, and if there are

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Eth0 interface not found - udev that little slut!!!!!

2013-04-06 Thread Nick Khamis
Oh dear what did I start!@!@! I'm sorry, I did not know this was a machine brewing. Don't follow the mailing list all that often. I updated 3 x86 machines with no problem but the 64 just took a crap... I agree! Should have read the notes. N. On 4/6/13, Jörg Schaible wrote: > Volker Armin Hemmann

[gentoo-user] Re: Eth0 interface not found - udev that little slut!!!!!

2013-04-06 Thread Jörg Schaible
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am 06.04.2013 21:33, schrieb Mick: >> On Saturday 06 Apr 2013 20:03:15 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >>> Am 06.04.2013 17:57, schrieb Alan Mackenzie: Hi, Nick. On Sat, Apr 06, 2013 at 10:51:42AM -0400, Nick Khamis wrote: > After updating our systems w

Re: [gentoo-user] Eth0 interface not found - udev that little slut!!!!!

2013-04-06 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 06.04.2013 21:33, schrieb Mick: > On Saturday 06 Apr 2013 20:03:15 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >> Am 06.04.2013 17:57, schrieb Alan Mackenzie: >>> Hi, Nick. >>> >>> On Sat, Apr 06, 2013 at 10:51:42AM -0400, Nick Khamis wrote: After updating our systems we lost network connectivity to the >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Mouse Pad & X11

2013-04-06 Thread Mick
On Saturday 06 Apr 2013 18:49:31 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > meino.cra...@gmx.de [13-04-06 18:52]: > > Randy Barlow [13-04-06 17:24]: > > > On Sat, 2013-04-06 at 08:32 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > > > How can I activate/use the additional functionality as reported by > > > > the log fil

Re: [gentoo-user] Eth0 interface not found - udev that little slut!!!!!

2013-04-06 Thread Mick
On Saturday 06 Apr 2013 20:03:15 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am 06.04.2013 17:57, schrieb Alan Mackenzie: > > Hi, Nick. > > > > On Sat, Apr 06, 2013 at 10:51:42AM -0400, Nick Khamis wrote: > >> After updating our systems we lost network connectivity to the > >> servers. When trying to start net.

Re: [gentoo-user] Mouse Pad & X11

2013-04-06 Thread Randy Barlow
On Sat, 2013-04-06 at 19:49 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > For scrolling one has to move ONE finger on the right edge of the > pad. > > And it scrolls! > > BUT unfortunately the scrollevents ALWAYS reach the taskbar and I am > warped through my desktops regardless of the focus a certain wind

[gentoo-user] Re: Eth0 interface not found - udev that little slut!!!!!

2013-04-06 Thread Jörg Schaible
Jarry wrote: > On 06-Apr-13 19:10, Alan Mackenzie wrote: >> >>> STOP SPREADING THIS FUD >> >>> It did not happen to pretty much everybody. It happened to people who >>> blindly updated thignsd and walked away, who did not read the news >>> announcement, who did not read the CLEARLY WORDED wiki art

Re: [gentoo-user] Mouse Pad & X11

2013-04-06 Thread Randy Barlow
On Sat, 2013-04-06 at 18:48 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > "One touch scrolling" and "2 fingers tap = scroll" is a > contradiction, isn't it? Haha, yeah it is confusing sounding. Perhaps one touch scrolling means you can scroll by using a single finger on the right side of the pad? A lot of t

Re: [gentoo-user] Eth0 interface not found - udev that little slut!!!!!

2013-04-06 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 06.04.2013 17:57, schrieb Alan Mackenzie: > Hi, Nick. > > On Sat, Apr 06, 2013 at 10:51:42AM -0400, Nick Khamis wrote: >> After updating our systems we lost network connectivity to the >> servers. When trying to start net.eth0 we got the following message: >> /ib64/rc/net/wpa_supplicant.sh: line

Re: [gentoo-user] Eth0 interface not found - udev that little slut!!!!!

2013-04-06 Thread Jarry
On 06-Apr-13 19:10, Alan Mackenzie wrote: STOP SPREADING THIS FUD It did not happen to pretty much everybody. It happened to people who blindly updated thignsd and walked away, who did not read the news announcement, who did not read the CLEARLY WORDED wiki article at freedesktop.org or alte

Re: [gentoo-user] Mouse Pad & X11

2013-04-06 Thread meino . cramer
meino.cra...@gmx.de [13-04-06 18:52]: > Randy Barlow [13-04-06 17:24]: > > On Sat, 2013-04-06 at 08:32 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > > How can I activate/use the additional functionality as reported by the > > > log file? > > > > I'm not familiar with that device, but I do have a suggest

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem compiling dev-lang/v8

2013-04-06 Thread Mick
On Saturday 06 Apr 2013 15:07:45 Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Friday 05 April 2013 21:58:32 Peter Humphrey wrote: > > --->8 > > > Why does emerge want to emerge chromium? > > > > Have I tripped over a line length limit? Have I got a circular > > dependency? What else might be wrong? I can't see an

Re: [gentoo-user] Eth0 interface not found - udev that little slut!!!!!

2013-04-06 Thread Alan Mackenzie
'Evening, Alan. On Sat, Apr 06, 2013 at 06:36:07PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 06/04/2013 17:57, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > >> Please excuse me, I am running back and forth from the servers and > >> > typing the error message here. Did our configuration get switched to > >> > IP6? These are our

Re: [gentoo-user] Mouse Pad & X11

2013-04-06 Thread meino . cramer
Randy Barlow [13-04-06 17:24]: > On Sat, 2013-04-06 at 08:32 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > How can I activate/use the additional functionality as reported by the > > log file? > > I'm not familiar with that device, but I do have a suggestion: does it > respond to multitouch gestures? For

Re: [gentoo-user] Eth0 interface not found - udev that little slut!!!!!

2013-04-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 06/04/2013 17:57, Alan Mackenzie wrote: >> Please excuse me, I am running back and forth from the servers and >> > typing the error message here. Did our configuration get switched to >> > IP6? These are our DB servers and why me!!! Why ME! > No, it's not just you, it's happened to pretty mu

Re: [gentoo-user] Eth0 interface not found - udev that little slut!!!!!

2013-04-06 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Nick. On Sat, Apr 06, 2013 at 10:51:42AM -0400, Nick Khamis wrote: > After updating our systems we lost network connectivity to the > servers. When trying to start net.eth0 we got the following message: > /ib64/rc/net/wpa_supplicant.sh: line 68: _is wireless command not found > /etc/init.d/ne

Re: [gentoo-user] Mouse Pad & X11

2013-04-06 Thread Randy Barlow
On Sat, 2013-04-06 at 08:32 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > How can I activate/use the additional functionality as reported by the > log file? I'm not familiar with that device, but I do have a suggestion: does it respond to multitouch gestures? For example, with my trackpad on my T530, I can

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev update and persistent net rules changes

2013-04-06 Thread Bruce Hill
On Sat, Apr 06, 2013 at 07:11:46PM +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote: > > Ahhh... I think now I understand... > > So. Here's my summarization of the situation: > > * The ethX naming can change, i.e., the interfaces can get out of order > * So, to fix this, udev decided to use the physical attachment poi

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev update and persistent net rules changes

2013-04-06 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-04-06 10:40 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 10:22:49 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: So, other than userland scripts that I created myself and know where they live, where do I search for any files/scripts created/generated/maintained by the system, for references to eth0/1 to chan

[gentoo-user] Eth0 interface not found - udev that little slut!!!!!

2013-04-06 Thread Nick Khamis
After updating our systems we lost network connectivity to the servers. When trying to start net.eth0 we got the following message: /ib64/rc/net/wpa_supplicant.sh: line 68: _is wireless command not found /etc/init.d/net.eth0: line 548: _exists command not found Errror: Interface eth0 does not exi

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev update and persistent net rules changes

2013-04-06 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Apr 6, 2013 7:32 PM, wrote: > > On Sat, 6 Apr 2013 19:11:46 +0700 > Pandu Poluan wrote: > > > On Apr 6, 2013 3:44 PM, "Neil Bothwick" wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, 5 Apr 2013 21:14:39 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > > > > > > > * on a machine with multiple network cards *ALL USING DIFFERENT > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev update and persistent net rules changes

2013-04-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 10:22:49 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: > So, other than userland scripts that I created myself and know where > they live, where do I search for any files/scripts > created/generated/maintained by the system, for references to eth0/1 to > change to net0/1? Is it just /etc/conf.d?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev update and persistent net rules changes

2013-04-06 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-04-05 4:11 PM, William Hubbs wrote: On Fri, Apr 05, 2013 at 02:38:21PM -0500, Bruce Hill wrote: Just dealing with one server and my Linux router, they've been updated to sys-fs/udev-200 and are both still using the same /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules file they've had for over

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev update and persistent net rules changes

2013-04-06 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-04-06 8:31 AM, kwk...@hkbn.net wrote: Almost, except you should not specify a name that is also eth[0-9]+ (what you called 'traditional' name), since it can cause a race condition where the kernel and udev fight for the name. While it used to be the case (i.e. Ok, thanks, I *think* I'

[gentoo-user] Myrient Fiberchannel Drivers

2013-04-06 Thread Nick Khamis
Hello Everyone, On our test machines we are using and EOL Myrinet fibercahnnel card: 01:05.0 Network controller: MYRICOM Inc. Myrinet 2000 Scalable Cluster Interconnect (rev 03) The problem is that their open source driver only supports up to 2.6 kernels. And with us running gentoo 3.x kernel h

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem compiling dev-lang/v8

2013-04-06 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 05 April 2013 21:58:32 Peter Humphrey wrote: --->8 > Why does emerge want to emerge chromium? > > Have I tripped over a line length limit? Have I got a circular > dependency? What else might be wrong? I can't see anything relevant at > BGO. Well, what d'you know? Today it worked just

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev update and persistent net rules changes

2013-04-06 Thread kwkhui
On Sat, 6 Apr 2013 19:11:46 +0700 Pandu Poluan wrote: > On Apr 6, 2013 3:44 PM, "Neil Bothwick" wrote: > > > > On Fri, 5 Apr 2013 21:14:39 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > > > > > * on a machine with multiple network cards *ALL USING DIFFERENT > > > DRIVERS* > > > * drivers are built as modules, not

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev update and persistent net rules changes

2013-04-06 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Apr 6, 2013 3:44 PM, "Neil Bothwick" wrote: > > On Fri, 5 Apr 2013 21:14:39 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > > > * on a machine with multiple network cards *ALL USING DIFFERENT DRIVERS* > > * drivers are built as modules, not built-in into the kernel > > * is it possible to set things up so that the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev update and persistent net rules changes

2013-04-06 Thread Mick
On Saturday 06 Apr 2013 09:43:28 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 5 Apr 2013 21:14:39 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > > * on a machine with multiple network cards *ALL USING DIFFERENT DRIVERS* > > * drivers are built as modules, not built-in into the kernel > > * is it possible to set things up so that t

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Udev update and persistent net rules changes

2013-04-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 5 Apr 2013 21:14:39 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > * on a machine with multiple network cards *ALL USING DIFFERENT DRIVERS* > * drivers are built as modules, not built-in into the kernel > * is it possible to set things up so that the network driver modules do > not load automatically at bo