Re: [gentoo-user] Debugging NFS mounts

2023-11-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
I chroot, env-update hangs for > ever. > Well, over an hour anyway. > > Is it possible to export /var in this way? I can't see anything else wrong. > Did you run mount inside the chroot or outside of it? -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] tmpfs filling up with nothing

2023-11-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 3:09 PM Mart Raudsepp wrote: > On Wed, 2023-11-08 at 19:08 +, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Wed, 8 Nov 2023 16:17:19 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Nov 8, 2023 at 4:10 PM Neil Bothwick > > > wrote: > > > &g

Re: [gentoo-user] tmpfs filling up with nothing

2023-11-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
96 184 /tmp/#184 (deleted) So here I have one. To release the 1 file, kill the process holding it open Alan -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange emerge behavior during new install

2023-11-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
There is a new item about this: https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2022-12-01-systemd-usrmerge.html I did not read or act on any of the unread news articles, leaving it for later If only... On Mon, Nov 6, 2023 at 8:46 PM Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > On Mon, Nov 6, 2023 at 7:35 P

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange emerge behavior during new install

2023-11-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, Nov 6, 2023 at 7:35 PM Michael wrote: > On Monday, 6 November 2023 17:26:45 GMT Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 6, 2023 at 6:56 PM Michael wrote: > > > On Monday, 6 November 2023 16:16:50 GMT Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > > > At this point I see the

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange emerge behavior during new install

2023-11-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, Nov 6, 2023 at 6:56 PM Michael wrote: > On Monday, 6 November 2023 16:16:50 GMT Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Hi, > > > > New install here, recent .isos: > > install-amd64-minimal-20230806T163139Z.iso > > stage3-amd64-systemd-20230806T163139Z.tar.

[gentoo-user] Strange emerge behavior during new install

2023-11-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
es mplayer mtp musicbrainz offensive rar rdp slang smp snmp szip # vdpau vim-syntax webkit xcomposite zip # -cdrom -gtk -sdl -semantic-desktop" VIDEO_CARDS="intel" == And so, in the words of the wise man, WTF? -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: world updates blocked by Qt

2023-10-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 12:19 PM Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 11/10/2023 21:14, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 4:49 PM Michael Cook > <mailto:mackal.c...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > I just --backtrack=100 and walked away, seemed to have figured &

Re: [gentoo-user] world updates blocked by Qt

2023-10-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 4:49 PM Michael Cook wrote: > On 10/11/23 09:43, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Hi all, > > Today a sync and emerge world produces a huge list of blockers. > qt 5.15.10 is currently installed and qt 5.15.11 is new in the tree and > being blocked. >

Re: [gentoo-user] world updates blocked by Qt

2023-10-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 4:14 PM Philip Webb wrote: > 231011 Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Today a sync and emerge world produces a huge list of blockers. > > qt 5.15.10 is currently installed and qt 5.15.11 is new in the tree and > > being blocked. > > All the visibl

Re: [gentoo-user] world updates blocked by Qt

2023-10-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 4:07 PM Cara Salter wrote: > On 10/11/23 09:43, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Today a sync and emerge world produces a huge list of blockers. > > qt 5.15.10 is currently installed and qt 5.15.11 is new in the tree and > > b

Re: [gentoo-user] world updates blocked by Qt

2023-10-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 3:59 PM Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 11 Oct 2023 15:43:46 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > Today a sync and emerge world produces a huge list of blockers. > > qt 5.15.10 is currently installed and qt 5.15.11 is new in the tree and > > being bloc

[gentoo-user] world updates blocked by Qt

2023-10-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
lazy and unwilling :-D Has anyone seen what the actual blockers are? I spotted okular, I suspect there are more. -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What to do about openssl

2023-10-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
-ffi -firebird > -gmp -inifile > -iodbc -kerberos > -ldap -ldap-sasl > -libedit -lmdb > -mssql > > -oci8-instant-client -phpdbg -qdbm > (-selinux) > -session-mm -snmp -soap > -sodium -systemd > -test -threads > -tidy > -tokyocabinet -webp -xpm > -xs\lt" > ABI_X86="(64)"^M > ^ > ^^ > \ > \ > \ > ^M > (and > 59 more with the same > > problems) > > > -- > Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: > How do > you spend it? > > John Covici wb2una > cov...@ccs.covici.com > > -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] What to do about openssl

2023-10-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
g to lose it. The question is: > How do > you spend it? > > John Covici wb2una > cov...@ccs.covici.com > > -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching from desktop to desktop without function keys.

2023-09-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
t; > P. S. Dug out my older Gigabyte 770T mobo. Found the CPU that used to > be on it and installed it and a OEM cooler. Got a new power supply > too. It seems the video card is bad that used to be on it. New one on > the way. This could be a new torrent box and/or NAS box. Maybe. > > -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo packages contain binary images?

2023-09-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
I interpreting this correctly that cmake is downloaded as pre-built > binary? > > Can I inhibit that? How many pre-built binaries do I have? How do I > get rid of them? > > Incidently, I checked another package in /var/cache/binpkgs, byacc, and > it's the same. > > > > -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a dependency of ruby

2023-09-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 6:35 PM Jack wrote: > On 9/21/23 12:30, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > > On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 5:03 PM Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 13:45:19 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >> > Not 100% back in the gen

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a dependency of ruby

2023-09-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 5:03 PM Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 13:45:19 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > Not 100% back in the gentoo groove yet, forget some basic tools. > > > > Something pulled in ruby, I know not what. > > > > What commands

Re: [gentoo-user] What is a dependency of ruby

2023-09-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 2:01 PM Arve Barsnes wrote: > On Thu, 21 Sept 2023 at 13:45, Alan McKinnon > wrote: > > > > Hey Gentooers, > > > > Not 100% back in the gentoo groove yet, forget some basic tools. > > > > Something pulled in ruby, I know no

[gentoo-user] What is a dependency of ruby

2023-09-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
Hey Gentooers, Not 100% back in the gentoo groove yet, forget some basic tools. Something pulled in ruby, I know not what. What commands show me what installed packages have ruby as a dependency? -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] Controlling emerges

2023-09-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 6:03 PM Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Monday, 18 September 2023 14:48:46 BST Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 3:44 PM Peter Humphrey > > > > wrote: > > > It may be less complex than you think, Jack. I envisage a package being

Re: [gentoo-user] Controlling emerges

2023-09-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
the solitary package with the > environment > specified for it, and it doesn't start the next one until that one has > finished. > The dependency calculation shouldn't need to be changed. > > It seems simple the way I see it. > How does that improve emerge performance overall? -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: long compiles

2023-09-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 11:19 AM Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 11/09/2023 22:19, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > chromium has been building since 10:14, it's now 21:16 and still going > > so 9 hours at least on this machine to build a browser - almost as bad > > as openoffice at

Re: [gentoo-user] long compiles

2023-09-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
t; Hi Ramon, distcc is way more than I need. I'm not complaining about long compile times and wanting a solution, I was more curious about which packages these days take long compared to when I was last here 5/6 years ago Alan > > On 11/09/2023 23:46, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] long compiles

2023-09-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 11:23 PM Michael wrote: > On Monday, 11 September 2023 21:21:47 BST Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 10:05 PM Neil Bothwick > wrote: > > > On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 21:19:27 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > > chromium has been

Re: [gentoo-user] long compiles

2023-09-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 10:05 PM Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 21:19:27 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > chromium has been building since 10:14, it's now 21:16 and still going > > so 9 hours at least on this machine to build a browser - almost as bad > > as

Re: [gentoo-user] long compiles

2023-09-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
qtwebengine! yes that one took forever also. It also said my 16G of RAM was smaller than the 16G it needed. Weird. Anyways I enabled a swapfile and left it to run overnight Alan On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 9:31 PM Dale wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > After my long time away from

[gentoo-user] long compiles

2023-09-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
now 21:16 and still going so 9 hours at least on this machine to build a browser - almost as bad as openoffice at it's worst (regularly took 12 hours). Nodejs also took a while, but I didn't record time. What other packages have huge build times? -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot

Re: [gentoo-user] mcomix (really python)

2023-09-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
he version number comparison is literal not numeric. Something that starts with a 1 is smaller than something that starts with a 6. Log a bug. -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] TrueNAS not helping me now.

2023-09-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
gt; On the left side pane, last item is "Guide" - docs are very thorough, they tell you how to do it -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sqlite downgraded by update breaks things

2023-09-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
OSes are like biology: apparently logical but actually messy -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] Messages bouncing

2023-09-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
k of my mail. > The bounces ought to go back to your inbox, unless you set Return-Path to be something else. But first question is, who is bouncing the mail? Your server or the list? Alan > > Sent from my iPad > -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] TrueNAS not helping me now.

2023-09-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
r current Fedora, whatever. Do the usual - PV all the drives, add them to a VG and create an LV. For encryption, you must decide if you want LVM to do it, or the filesystem - choice is yours. I would advise not to put / in that VG. Rather boot off a small drive or USB stick then all your drives are a full PV Alan -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] tar exclude files question

2023-09-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
a few empty directories. > Try it and see. My concern is that the man page implies that with --exclude-caches-under the subdirectories are excluded recursively, but the directory with the file called CACHEDIR.TAG is not. I'm sure that's wrong but the man page says what it says. -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] Is distfile partial mirror with failover possible?

2023-09-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, Sep 4, 2023 at 8:26 PM Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 4 Sep 2023 19:49:56 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > Quick n dirty solution: > > > > put all distfiles on a central server > > FS mount that remote dir to /var/cache/distfiles on all hosts > &g

Re: [gentoo-user] Is distfile partial mirror with failover possible?

2023-09-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
-ng for local distfiles cache. > > I use apt-cacher-ng for this and it does what you are looking for. > > > -- > Neil Bothwick > > The facts, although interesting, are usually irrelevant. > -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: attic

2023-09-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
ve heard the saying > that Git is a data structure masquerading as an SCM, and certainly the > inconsistencies in the command line operations bear that out. > I'd always heard that Git is a file system and all useful side effects are pure luck -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] he's baaaaaaack :-D

2023-09-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
Thanks for the warm welcome everyone, almost feels like I was never gone :-D Alan On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 5:34 AM Walter Dnes wrote: > On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 08:15:00PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote > > > > Going through the list archives, I see a whole bunch of familiar >

Re: [gentoo-user] he's baaaaaaack :-D

2023-08-31 Thread Alan McKinnon
Thanks :-D On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 8:32 PM Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hello, Alan. > > Welcome back! > > On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 20:15:00 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >Hello Gentoo'ers > >After some years away, I'm back to Gentoo. Arch was nice and I got &

[gentoo-user] he's baaaaaaack :-D

2023-08-31 Thread Alan McKinnon
your acquaintance. -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] Rebuilding all dependants of a package

2018-02-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
hehehehe :-) every now and again I unleash my inner grumpy old fart and should him to the world at large! On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 5:15 PM, Neil Bothwick <n...@digimed.co.uk> wrote: > On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 17:05:03 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > Perhaps you should lay out cle

Re: [gentoo-user] Rebuilding all dependants of a package

2018-02-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
hing in this, that is a bug and the ebuild needs updating. Perhaps you should lay out clearly why you think you need to do this, so everyone else can help match your expectations to reality :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] How to test package install?

2018-02-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
t; You can normally build as yourself. Install requires root typically due to write permissions on *bin and /etc. You can probably come up with a clever way to do this, but by far the easiest is the classic: sudo ebuild /path/to/pkg.ebuild install -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] A little help for non-native English speakers

2018-02-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
hehehehe :-) Old joke but a good one: Q: Why don't we obfuscate perl? A; Because that makes it more readable On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 10:10 AM, Neil Bothwick <n...@digimed.co.uk> wrote: > On Fri, 2 Feb 2018 09:34:06 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > As a native English s

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] A little help for non-native English speakers

2018-02-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 02/02/2018 09:47, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: On Fri, Feb 02, 2018 at 09:34:06AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: PS.: As a non-native, I always found e.g. and i.e. easy to keep apart because when you say "e.g." as a word without the dots, it becomes "eg", which, phonet

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] A little help for non-native English speakers

2018-02-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
er the precedence rules about its and it's... I vote we dump English in it's entirety and all switch to Python -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Simple SMTP to cmd-line MTA relay?

2018-01-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 19/01/2018 22:03, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2018-01-19, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 19/01/2018 21:54, Grant Edwards wrote: >>> On 2018-01-19, Ian Zimmerman <i...@very.loosely.org> wrote: >>>> On 2018-01-19 18:49, Grant Edwar

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Simple SMTP to cmd-line MTA relay?

2018-01-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 19/01/2018 22:01, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2018-01-19, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 19/01/2018 21:43, Ian Zimmerman wrote: >>> On 2018-01-19 18:49, Grant Edwards wrote: >>> >>>>> Just like the others writing in this th

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Simple SMTP to cmd-line MTA relay?

2018-01-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
as you say). Otherwise I'm going to give you boilerplate advice: Use ssmtp, unless the mail isn't coming from localhost and you need simple (use postfix); otherwise if your setup is tricky use exim. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] fsck check of /usr on a separate partition fails during boot

2018-01-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 14/01/2018 01:36, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 23:16:19 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> On 13/01/2018 23:16, Neil Bothwick wrote: >>> On Sat, 13 Jan 2018 14:57:59 -0600, John Johnson wrote: >>> >>>> Shouldn't that be taken care of by

Re: [gentoo-user] fsck check of /usr on a separate partition fails during boot

2018-01-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
t; has to be done by the initramfs. It's too late to do it when control has > been handed over because then /usr is already mounted rw. So what does the dirty check and fsck of / ? I don't have an initramfs, I don't have a separate /usr, I run OpenRC and the kernel command line says where / is for mounting -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] fsck check of /usr on a separate partition fails during boot

2018-01-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
tramfs at all. Not sure exactly what code does this, I assume it's something in OpenRC. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] fsck check of /usr on a separate partition fails during boot

2018-01-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
ce - reboot - use the fsck tool on that system (which is independent of your main system) to fix the broken fs for /usr - reboot as normal Yes, you *could* fiddle with your initramfs to provide a shell and fs tools. How often are you going to use it or test it? As you are not RedHat with paying customers, I'd say "almost never". so rescue disk ftw -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] single core athlon?

2018-01-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
.at.large (a good madscientist) > -- > -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Connman refuses to work

2018-01-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
one with kernel recently) or promote to stable some > version of connman higher than 1.32 upstream. This would completely > have this bug eliminated even before someone other than me hits it. Post your finding to b.g.o. It's a simple matter to limit which versions of iptables can be used with each version of connman. Tracking that, and making changes when they become known, is what being a package maintainer is all about. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] old kernels are installed during the upgrade

2018-01-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 04/01/2018 08:40, Wols Lists wrote: > On 03/01/18 22:09, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 04/01/2018 00:02, Stroller wrote: >>> >>>> On 3 Jan 2018, at 21:55, Wols Lists <antli...@youngman.org.uk> wrote: >>>> >>>> What would be nice, woul

Re: [gentoo-user] old kernels are installed during the upgrade

2018-01-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 04/01/2018 00:41, Stroller wrote: > >> On 3 Jan 2018, at 22:11, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>> >>>>> $ grep -e source /var/lib/portage/world >>>>> sys-kernel/gentoo-sources:4.9.34 >>>> .

Re: [gentoo-user] old kernels are installed during the upgrade

2018-01-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
ou do want to use versions, I'd recommend using ~ rather than = to >> pick up patch-level updates. > > What do you mean by this exactly, please? =4.9.34 selects that exact version and only that specific version ~4.9.34 select that version and also 4.9.34-r1. There might need to be a * on the end of ~4.9.34, I don;t quite recall. Answer in portage's man pages -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] old kernels are installed during the upgrade

2018-01-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
te the sources? - Re-emerge them. 90 seconds. - Re-compile using existing config. 20 minutes So deleting the sources for the running kernel is a doh! moment. But no biggie, and certainly not cause for changing your routine (all in my own not at all humble opinion, of course) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Running Gentoo in VirtualBox

2017-12-31 Thread Alan McKinnon
ver with n backup or redundancy plans? Virtualization here will not solve your risk or effort exposure. It will increase it. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel upgrade confusion

2017-12-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
ing you left the sources intact after kernel installation (the usual case) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [was: What can cause printer to crop top of page?] /etc/papersize is ignored

2017-12-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
ned colonials. It's like the baseball "world series": no-one outside > north America plays it [random OT factoid] baseball is hugely popular in Japan. Rugby too :-) [2nd random OT factoid] It's the "world series" because the first sponsor was a newspaper "News of the W

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel 4.14.7 no longer switches to VT7

2017-12-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
age on your own! = end quote= If you want to fix the bugs, then by all means soldier on. But if your intent is to have a working system that boots, probably drop using 4.14.x and go back to say 4.12.x ? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [was: What can cause printer to crop top of page?] /etc/papersize is ignored

2017-12-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
oblem. >> >> I've been luckier with printing, but thanks all the same. Who knows >> when I might no longer be so lucky. > > Indeed. > -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] list of miscellaneous FAIL

2017-12-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
Is he the fellow with the weird update script? The one that entertained us so much for so long? Plus a total inability to listen to anyone else? On 16 Dec 2017 12:28 AM, "Dale" <rdalek1...@gmail.com> wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Oh ye gods, not this fellow aga

Re: [gentoo-user] list of miscellaneous FAIL

2017-12-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
head decided to turn it back on thinking 'ooh > security'.  I'm like look: the only thing I care about is that I can log > in. =| > > In file included from src/libpostproc/postprocess.c:538:0: > src/libpostproc/postprocess_template.c: In function ‘dering_MMX2’: > src/libpostproc/postprocess_template.c:1097:5: error: ‘asm’ operand has > impossible constraints > __asm__ volatile( > ^~~ > > -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
tted a long time ago but he is still here. A good healthy dose of manners like your Mama taught you is in short supply around here right now. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] preparing for profile switch -- major problem

2017-12-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
ave done so for > years, so I don't think I need to maks off anything. I seem now to be > stuck with dev-python/setuptools, so I am now trying to figure out why > I can't emerge that -- it was triggered by the perl-cleaner --all . > How recent is your tree? I had issues with setuptools doing the first run through the 17.0 upgrade. I never looked into it too closely, I used --keep-going, but setuptools seemed to think I had a useable python-3.4 After the first run through emerge -e world, nuking-python-3.4 and re-syncing, setuptols worked normally again. YMMV of course where you are -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
ually doing stuff > collaborate on things and re-use/share projects as they see fit, for > less time waste and more making GNU/Linux (desktops) great over the > proprietary others. > > Let's say we renamed the package: s/gnome-common/useful-build-stuffs/g No other change, just a package rename. And suddenly this entire thread never ever happens at all. People, you all need to step back, sleep on it, and knock off the knee-jerking. It is 4 useful m4 files, utterly dwarfed by any package you can mention that installs even a single man page. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] preparing for profile switch -- major problem

2017-12-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
t;when all else fails, you can always do it this way" It's good advice of last resort, really -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
etting anywhere near my >> systems. >> :-p >> > For now, only a few text files - tomorrow - many more. > > You give poettering an inch he will take hundred miles. > Why are you laying this at Poettering's door? To the best of my knowledge, he is not behind udisks{,2} or gnome-common, so why include him here? I'm all in favour of Lennart-bashing, but let's keep the bashing to what he's responsible for. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
geLog /usr/share/doc/gnome-common-3.18.0-r1/README All they are is 4 small .m4 files to do useful stuff to let packages build, very much like a few needed includes. They just happen to be generically useful and just happen to be written by someone in the Gnome team, and just happen to have names starting with this sequence of letters: gee enn oh emm ee -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] CFLAGs change but no filter/strip/replace in ebuild

2017-12-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 09/12/2017 11:37, Adam Carter wrote: > On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 8:10 PM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com > <mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > On 09/12/2017 11:10, Adam Carter wrote: > > # grep -ic flags yasm-1.3.0.ebuild > > 0 &g

Re: [gentoo-user] install ebuilds from funtoo, zentoo distro overlay

2017-12-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
d to /etc/portage/repos.conf/layman.conf. The last time I did this, I simply added the overlay to reps.conf manually, but I'm sure there's a convenience wrapper method in layman somewhere -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] CFLAGs change but no filter/strip/replace in ebuild

2017-12-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 09/12/2017 11:10, Adam Carter wrote: > # grep -ic flags yasm-1.3.0.ebuild > 0 > > However, emerge --info yasm shows me that only -march -O2 -pipe make it > through. Where is the code that strips the others? > Have you checked yasm's Makefile? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] preparing for profile switch -- major problem

2017-12-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 08/12/2017 21:12, John Covici wrote: > On Fri, 08 Dec 2017 11:42:16 -0500, > Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >> On 07/12/2017 17:46, John Covici wrote: >>> On Thu, 07 Dec 2017 09:37:56 -0500, >>> Alan McKinnon wrote: >>>> >>>> On

Re: [gentoo-user] net-wireless/blueman-2.1_alpha2 blocked by net-wireless/gnome-bluetooth - is it necessary?

2017-12-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
ide. But portage is stuck with nowhere to go if you happen to have package B in world. >> # fgrep -rni blueman /etc/portage >> /etc/portage/package.use/blueman:1:#net-wireless/blueman > But I understand other possible reasons. > > On 12/08/2017 07:37 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote

Re: [gentoo-user] preparing for profile switch -- major problem

2017-12-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 07/12/2017 17:46, John Covici wrote: > On Thu, 07 Dec 2017 09:37:56 -0500, > Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >> On 07/12/2017 07:44, John Covici wrote: >>> Hi. In preparing for the profile switch and the emerge -e world, I >>> have run into a serious problem wi

Re: [gentoo-user] net-wireless/blueman-2.1_alpha2 blocked by net-wireless/gnome-bluetooth - is it necessary?

2017-12-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
It is not unreasonable to conclude that blueman-2.1 intends to add features that conflict with gnome-bluetooth and they can't co-exist. As Vadim said, file collisions are often the underlying cause. You unmasked an alpha package, clearly tagged as "for testing". Nothing add abut the result you got at all. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] preparing for profile switch -- major problem

2017-12-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
not have been updated - musicbrainz and radiator come to mind as examples (solution: harass your app vendor) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Puzzled with duration of chromium emerge under profile 17.0

2017-12-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
muchly. Add to that your i7 is RAM-constrained so you compensate with swap, which is easily 50,000 times slower with sucky latency. When you use a disk as RAM, performance tanks. Well, usually it causes a cascade effect and stuff blows up, but if it completes it will have done so slowly. If you at all can, shove lots more RAM in that i7. These days RAM is cheap and it's always by first performance tweak, then SSD. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] switch to profile 17.0 complete, completely painless

2017-12-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
to trigger a rebuild of half of world), and a recent bug on b.g.o. backed up with I was thinking. It built fine with this in package.use: =dev-qt/qtwebengine-5.9.3 -system-ffmpeg -system-icu Yes, I did do it, favoured bundled libs instead of system ones. But I was also having similar issues with bundled vs system ffmpeg for kodi, and this was the easiest way to get past it and finish a 17.0 migration -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --info

2017-12-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
It reflects what is currently right now in make.conf with zero consideration to last, future, next or previous builds. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] is multi-core really worth it?

2017-12-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
ro, the one with the "toxic personality"). And no-one ever bothered changing that initial decision - a classic case of cargo cult -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: git wants a password to portage sync

2017-12-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
that attackers could use. To find out why ssh does not work, start by looking at the server logs, then examine the client is nothing obvious stands out. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Again, emerge -e @world related questions...

2017-12-04 Thread Alan McKinnon
fore trying emerge -e @world. You must do emerge -e @world first, it tends to fail (always fails?) if emerge world indicates there is something to be built. So just emerge -e world, then do a depclean. The first step is going to take long enough and increase your heating bills so much, that the extra work of a few packages is not worth the stress of worrying about. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] problem emerging new stable python

2017-11-29 Thread Alan McKinnon
T = 3.x. > sys-process/systemd-cron python_single_target_python3_4 > > Those files are 2+ years old on each system > > I have not let the 6430 proceed with the emerge update world. > > Thanks in advance for any help. > allan > Your machines differ between PYTHON_

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mesa build failure

2017-11-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/11/2017 21:59, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2017-11-27 21:07, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> mesa has 18 versions in-tree and mesa-17.1.8 is the second oldest. Any >> special reason you are stuck so far back? A package.mask you no longr >> actually need maybe? > >

Re: [gentoo-user] mesa build failure

2017-11-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
ge.mask you no longr actually need maybe? My first action would be to use something more rcent that functions for yu. Alan -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Setting up fetchmail to feed postfix

2017-11-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
go with > ... what was it again, Dale? > it was the init thingy, and before that it was HAL -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] gst-plugins blocker

2017-11-21 Thread Alan McKinnon
rld done? Often times I find a partial update fails whereas all of world succeeds, it checks all the deps and misses none Any mixture of ~arch packages related to pidgin, farstream, gst-plugins? Any of those packages keyworded/masked/unmasked on your system? and finally, to see what might want gst-plugins-bad: equery depends gst-plugins-bad -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] ansible daemon

2017-11-18 Thread Alan McKinnon
ef world? If so, the one thing to always keep in mind is this: Ansible is almost, but not quite, entirely unlike Puppet. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Help...can't decipher emerge oracle...

2017-11-16 Thread Alan McKinnon
e maintainer can't weed out, we report them and log bugs and they get fixed. When the package is stabilized, most of those funny bugs ought to be gone and fixed. Yu mail can be read as proving that this system is working as intended :-) [1] It may or may not be documented to be this way, but it is how the larger community are mostly using it. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] One package needs two other packages, which cannot be installed simultanously?

2017-11-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
re output of which you quoted a part and go through it line by line, figuring out why it's there and what it is telling you. You only have to do this once to get a good handle on it, and you will be very glad you did in the future :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Why do systemd scripts get installed with USE="-systemd"?

2017-11-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
ne complains about /usr/share/doc and the large number of docs there, many of which are larger than all the systemd unit files combined. Or what multilib setups end up doing in /lib It makes engineering sense to install all the various init system's unit and scripts for all packages, then the sysadmi

Re: [gentoo-user] Linux USB security holes.

2017-11-08 Thread Alan McKinnon
he largest single security advance in all of computing history. Everything else is icing. There is nothing in Unix really that is "secure by design", and all von Neumann machines are actually insecure by design -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FYI: Daily / weekly / monthly cron jobs run twice on DST - non-DST transition

2017-11-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 05/11/2017 17:11, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 6:43 AM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> There are other schedulers out there that succeed where cron fails (eg >> Control-M, chronos, quartz), but those are all large, bulky,

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] AppImage? What's that?

2017-11-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
streamcli is missing, please install it if you want to use > AppStream metadata > appimagetool-x86_64.AppImage is a file, assuming it is an AppImage and should > be unpacked > To be implemented > > unpacking is not implemented yet. Reading only this thread, it looks like an upstream used a horribly incomplete scheme for distribution that isn't even ready for launch. And yet they distribute using it. I would be questioning why I'm using that upstream's project at all, and find something better by an author with more clue. Am I missing something? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FYI: Daily / weekly / monthly cron jobs run twice on DST - non-DST transition

2017-11-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
ure out what to do if 2am happens twice (just don't do it the second time), but not what should happen if 2am was missed for any reason, including DST or poweroff or overeager ntpdate The simplest approach to fixing missed jobs is to have the script itself track what is correct. If it's lock and r

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