Re: [gentoo-user] New install - Wayland and graphical login

[jdm]

On Mon, 21 Jun 2021 16:17:41 +0100
Michael  wrote:

> On Monday, 21 June 2021 17:27:31 BST Wols Lists wrote:
> > What happens when you get to the end of the handbook?
> > 
> > I want to get a working Wayland setup with a (multi-user) graphical
> > login. When I set my old system up ($DEITY knows how long ago) I
> > seem to remember a page on setting up X, and all sorts of stuff.
> > 
> > Now, you seem to get dumped at working tty1 prompt, and then the
> > *helpful* documentation JUST STOPS. It doesn't even point you at
> > anything! (Yes it points you at the portage page about how to
> > maintain your system, but that isn't much use if you can't DO
> > anything with the system...)
> > 
> > I've found the page on Wayland, but it just says "set this use flag
> > and install two packages".
> > 
> > Where's the documentation that tells me what I need, and how to set
> > it up, please ...
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Wol  
> 
> Have you tried using a Display Manager?  Some of my systems won't
> work with Wayland, but I haven't spent time to find out why all I get
> with them is a black screen.
> 
> Anyway, from a VT you'd run something like:
> 
> XDG_SESSION_TYPE=wayland dbus-run-session startplasma-wayland
> 
> or 
> 
> XDG_SESSION_TYPE=wayland dbus-run-session gnome-session

There is a wayland greeter which uses greetd and gtkgreet which may
be worth looking at and there is a gentoo wiki which goes a long with
it. It works with wayfire which is a nice wayland window manager and is
very reliable.

Also look at https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Wayland_Desktop_Landscape

John 

Re: [gentoo-user] GTK Graphical Problems

[jdm]

On Thu,  3 Jun 2021 22:03:21 +
z...@posteo.us wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 03, 2021 at 10:01:43AM +0100, jdm wrote:
> > On Wed, 2 Jun 2021 11:14:40 +0100
> > jdm  wrote:
> >   
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > At the weekend I updated my system and after reboot some of my
> > > apps have lots of black black squares/rectangles all over the
> > > place, covering all of the app window and making email difficult
> > > to write. 
> > > 
> > > Initially I thought this was a Wayland problem as using Wayfire
> > > but switched to X11 desktop and still had same issue.
> > > 
> > > Trying all my apps this looks to be a GTK related issues as
> > > happening with claws-mail (worst), gkrellm, gcolor2, Bluefish
> > > etc. QT/EFL apps seem to be fine (qtfm, keepass). Firefox-bin
> > > works just fine, oddly.
> > > 
> > > Anyone else seen this. I see a thread talking about GTK slots but
> > > not sure if this is related.
> > > 
> > > I've rebuilt all gtk related packages which has not helped.
> > > 
> > > John
> > >   
> > 
> > Noticed a minor oddity with sddm where text not rendering correctly
> > so decided not a gtk problem but strange that qt apps where hardly
> > affected.
> > 
> > Updated mesa to latest version (currently masked) and issue
> > has gone away.
> > 
> > John
> >   
> 
> What version of mesa was causing the problem, what version did you
> upgrade to, and what are your useflags? I've been having similar
> issues, but I'm on the current (21.1.1) version of mesa.
> 
> Did you upgrade drivers anywhere?
> 

I was using media-libs/mesa-20.3.5 and upgraded to 21.1.2 (which
stopped issue)

I did not upgrade any drivers previously but have now upgraded libdrm
2.4.105 to 2.4.106 but this did not help.

Was using stable kernel 5.10.27 but upgraded to 5.11.22 but this did
not resolve issue.

Currently using a Radeon 5600 XT graphics card with latest
linux-firmware-20210518 but was using this before problem.

in make.conf I have following use flags
USE="X egl dbus udev alsa opengl symlink lock bash-completion ffmpeg
pulseaudio mtp virgl elogind wayland -cups -gnome -bluetooth -systemd
-networkmanager"

in package.accept_keywords
gui-wm/wayfire ~amd64
gui-libs/gtk-layer-shell ~amd64
gui-libs/wf-config ~amd64
gui-apps/wf-shell ~amd64
gui-apps/wcm ~amd64
gui-apps/wf-recorder ~amd64
x11-terms/alacritty ~amd64
gui-apps/wayland-logout ~amd64
gui-libs/wayfire-plugins-extra ~amd64
x11-themes/kvantum ~amd64

x11-libs/libdrm ~amd64
media-libs/mesa ~amd64

# kernel
sys-kernel/gentoo-sources ~amd64

After upgrading kernel I was too lazy to switch back to stable version


emerge --info
Portage 3.0.18 (python 3.9.4-final-0, default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop,
gcc-10.3.0, glibc-2.33, 5.11.22-gentoo x86_64)
=
System uname:
Linux-5.11.22-gentoo-x86_64-AMD_Ryzen_7_5800X_8-Core_Processor-with-glibc2.33
KiB Mem:16403904 total,  13208816 free
KiB Swap:   16777212 total,  16777212 free
Timestamp of repository gentoo: Thu, 03 Jun 2021 12:00:01 +
Head commit of repository gentoo:
d3b754271c5044865980daa94fcc0046c21d7ce8
sh bash 5.1_p8
ld GNU ld (Gentoo 2.35.2 p1) 2.35.2
app-shells/bash:  5.1_p8::gentoo
dev-java/java-config: 2.3.1::gentoo
dev-lang/perl:5.32.1::gentoo
dev-lang/python:  3.9.4_p1::gentoo
dev-lang/rust:1.51.0-r2::gentoo
dev-util/cmake:   3.18.5::gentoo
sys-apps/baselayout:  2.7::gentoo
sys-apps/openrc:  0.42.1-r1::gentoo
sys-apps/sandbox: 2.23::gentoo
sys-devel/autoconf:   2.13-r1::gentoo, 2.69-r5::gentoo
sys-devel/automake:   1.16.3-r1::gentoo
sys-devel/binutils:   2.35.2::gentoo
sys-devel/gcc:10.3.0::gentoo
sys-devel/gcc-config: 2.4::gentoo
sys-devel/libtool:2.4.6-r6::gentoo
sys-devel/make:   4.3::gentoo
sys-kernel/linux-headers: 5.10::gentoo (virtual/os-headers)
sys-libs/glibc:   2.33::gentoo
Repositories:

gentoo
location: /var/db/repos/gentoo
sync-type: rsync
sync-uri: rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage
priority: -1000
sync-rsync-extra-opts:
sync-rsync-verify-jobs: 1
sync-rsync-verify-metamanifest: yes
sync-rsync-verify-max-age: 24

crossdev
location: /var/db/repos/portage-crossdev
masters: gentoo
priority: 10

wayland-desktop
location: /var/lib/layman/wayland-desktop
sync-type: laymansync
sync-uri: https://github.com/bsd-ac/wayland-desktop.git
masters: gentoo
priority: 50

ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="amd64"
ACCEPT_LICENSE="*"
CBUILD="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CFLAGS="-march=native -O2 -pipe"
CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CONFIG_PROTECT=&

Re: [gentoo-user] GTK Graphical Problems

[jdm]

On Wed, 2 Jun 2021 11:14:40 +0100
jdm  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> At the weekend I updated my system and after reboot some of my apps
> have lots of black black squares/rectangles all over the place,
> covering all of the app window and making email difficult to write. 
> 
> Initially I thought this was a Wayland problem as using Wayfire but
> switched to X11 desktop and still had same issue.
> 
> Trying all my apps this looks to be a GTK related issues as happening
> with claws-mail (worst), gkrellm, gcolor2, Bluefish etc. QT/EFL apps
> seem to be fine (qtfm, keepass). Firefox-bin works just fine, oddly.
> 
> Anyone else seen this. I see a thread talking about GTK slots but not
> sure if this is related.
> 
> I've rebuilt all gtk related packages which has not helped.
> 
> John
> 

Noticed a minor oddity with sddm where text not rendering correctly so
decided not a gtk problem but strange that qt apps where hardly
affected.

Updated mesa to latest version (currently masked) and issue
has gone away.

John

[gentoo-user] GTK Graphical Problems

[jdm]

Hi,

At the weekend I updated my system and after reboot some of my apps
have lots of black black squares/rectangles all over the place, covering
all of the app window and making email difficult to write. 

Initially I thought this was a Wayland problem as using Wayfire but
switched to X11 desktop and still had same issue.

Trying all my apps this looks to be a GTK related issues as happening
with claws-mail (worst), gkrellm, gcolor2, Bluefish etc. QT/EFL apps
seem to be fine (qtfm, keepass). Firefox-bin works just fine, oddly.

Anyone else seen this. I see a thread talking about GTK slots but not
sure if this is related.

I've rebuilt all gtk related packages which has not helped.

John

[gentoo-user] Kernel Time

[jdm]

Hi,

I have read on distrowatch that Gentoo has released some Kernel related
packages.

So having a look round I can see

gentoo-kernel
gentoo-kernel-bin

What are the differences between them?

I assume that using these you no longer need to compile your kernel (if
you don't want to)?

I have tried gentoo-kernel-bin but trying to do a make install throws 

sh ./arch/x86/boot/install.sh 5.4.64 arch/x86/boot/bzImage \
System.map "/boot"
sh: ./arch/x86/boot/install.sh: No such file or directory
make[1]: *** [arch/x86/boot/Makefile:155: install] Error 127
make: *** [arch/x86/Makefile:294: install] Error 2

Anyone else tried this?

Thought it could be useful for a few virtual machines.

Thanks.

John

PS the handbook is down and there is not much related documentation.

Re: [gentoo-user] custom mount fstab

[jdm]

On Fri, 3 Jul 2020 16:33:42 +0200
Tamer Higazi  wrote:

> Thanks Michael!
> 
> I'll give it a try.
> 
> 
> best, Tamer
> 
> Am 3 Jul 2020 um 15:46 schrieb Michael:
> > On Friday, 3 July 2020 14:33:52 BST Tamer Higazi wrote:  
> >> Hi people,
> >>
> >> I had a problem with docker on gentoo and found the solution for
> >> all my
> >>
> >> problems with a custom mount command:
> >> |sudo mount -t cgroup -o none,name=systemd cgroup
> >> /sys/fs/cgroup/systemd
> >>
> >> Can anybody of you tell me how to add that one in /etc/fstab file ?
> >> best, Tamer |  
> > I haven't used cgroups or docker, but if your mount command above
> > is correct, I assume something like this ought to work as far as
> > fstab is concerned:
> >
> > cgroup  /sys/fs/cgroup/systemd  cgroup  none,name=systemd  0 1
> >  
> 

Hi,

Not sure if this may help but there is a library which you can install
called dev-libs/libcgroup which has an init program /etc/init.d/cgconfig

In the config file /etc/cgroup/cgconfig I have 

mount {
"name=systemd" = /sys/fs/cgroup/systemd;
}

which allows lxd containers to run using systemd


Not sure if this what you are after but maybe of use. It allows me to
run Arch linux containers in Gentoo.

John

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone willing to share a kernel .config file?

[jdm]

On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 18:39:35 -0400
Jack  wrote:

> On 2020.06.18 17:45, Andrew Lowe wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > I have an AMD Ryzen 7 2700 CPU sitting in a Gigabyte X470
> > Aurus Ultra Gaming motherboard with 64GB of RAM and an nVidia
> > graphics card. For some reason I've never been happy with the
> > kernels config. Considering the grunt this thing should have, I am
> > seeing nothing like what I would expect. By way of example, if I am
> > running a vid through VLC on one screen and get Firefox to create a
> > new tab within the browser on another screen, the video in VLC
> > freezes for several seconds. Other things freeze when I think they
> > shouldn't be.
> > 
> > I know this problem could be related to Qt, KDE, VLC,
> > Firefox etc, but I think I will take this opportunity to check that
> > my foundations, the kernel, are solid in the first place before I
> > start looking at other stuff.
> > 
> > Does anyone have a physical configuration like mine, and
> > that they think runs well, and are willing to share the .config
> > file?
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Andrew  
> Ryzen 5 2600 on an MSI B350 Tomahawk.  I know I get full use of all  
> cores/threads (6/12).  Video is ATI - let me know if you want more  
> details about that or anything else.\
> 
> Jack

Hi,

Config from X470 ASUS Pro motherboard with AMDGPU set up + Ryzen 2700X
processor. Only 16Gb of RAM (feeling slightly inadequate).

Not seeing any problems with VLC freezing or any other apps and running
stuff through Wayfire.

John  
#
# Automatically generated file; DO NOT EDIT.
# Linux/x86 5.4.38-gentoo Kernel Configuration
#

#
# Compiler: gcc (Gentoo 9.3.0 p2) 9.3.0
#
CONFIG_CC_IS_GCC=y
CONFIG_GCC_VERSION=90300
CONFIG_CLANG_VERSION=0
CONFIG_CC_CAN_LINK=y
CONFIG_CC_HAS_ASM_GOTO=y
CONFIG_CC_HAS_ASM_INLINE=y
CONFIG_CC_HAS_WARN_MAYBE_UNINITIALIZED=y
CONFIG_IRQ_WORK=y
CONFIG_BUILDTIME_EXTABLE_SORT=y
CONFIG_THREAD_INFO_IN_TASK=y

#
# General setup
#
CONFIG_INIT_ENV_ARG_LIMIT=32
# CONFIG_COMPILE_TEST is not set
CONFIG_LOCALVERSION=""
# CONFIG_LOCALVERSION_AUTO is not set
CONFIG_BUILD_SALT=""
CONFIG_HAVE_KERNEL_GZIP=y
CONFIG_HAVE_KERNEL_BZIP2=y
CONFIG_HAVE_KERNEL_LZMA=y
CONFIG_HAVE_KERNEL_XZ=y
CONFIG_HAVE_KERNEL_LZO=y
CONFIG_HAVE_KERNEL_LZ4=y
CONFIG_KERNEL_GZIP=y
# CONFIG_KERNEL_BZIP2 is not set
# CONFIG_KERNEL_LZMA is not set
# CONFIG_KERNEL_XZ is not set
# CONFIG_KERNEL_LZO is not set
# CONFIG_KERNEL_LZ4 is not set
CONFIG_DEFAULT_HOSTNAME=""
CONFIG_SWAP=y
CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y
CONFIG_SYSVIPC_SYSCTL=y
CONFIG_POSIX_MQUEUE=y
CONFIG_POSIX_MQUEUE_SYSCTL=y
# CONFIG_CROSS_MEMORY_ATTACH is not set
# CONFIG_USELIB is not set
CONFIG_AUDIT=y
CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_AUDITSYSCALL=y
CONFIG_AUDITSYSCALL=y

#
# IRQ subsystem
#
CONFIG_GENERIC_IRQ_PROBE=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_IRQ_SHOW=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_IRQ_EFFECTIVE_AFF_MASK=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_PENDING_IRQ=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_IRQ_MIGRATION=y
CONFIG_IRQ_DOMAIN=y
CONFIG_IRQ_DOMAIN_HIERARCHY=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_MSI_IRQ=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_MSI_IRQ_DOMAIN=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_IRQ_MATRIX_ALLOCATOR=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_IRQ_RESERVATION_MODE=y
CONFIG_IRQ_FORCED_THREADING=y
CONFIG_SPARSE_IRQ=y
# CONFIG_GENERIC_IRQ_DEBUGFS is not set
# end of IRQ subsystem

CONFIG_CLOCKSOURCE_WATCHDOG=y
CONFIG_ARCH_CLOCKSOURCE_DATA=y
CONFIG_ARCH_CLOCKSOURCE_INIT=y
CONFIG_CLOCKSOURCE_VALIDATE_LAST_CYCLE=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_TIME_VSYSCALL=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_CLOCKEVENTS=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_CLOCKEVENTS_BROADCAST=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_CLOCKEVENTS_MIN_ADJUST=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_CMOS_UPDATE=y

#
# Timers subsystem
#
CONFIG_TICK_ONESHOT=y
CONFIG_NO_HZ_COMMON=y
# CONFIG_HZ_PERIODIC is not set
CONFIG_NO_HZ_IDLE=y
# CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL is not set
CONFIG_NO_HZ=y
CONFIG_HIGH_RES_TIMERS=y
# end of Timers subsystem

# CONFIG_PREEMPT_NONE is not set
CONFIG_PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY=y
# CONFIG_PREEMPT is not set

#
# CPU/Task time and stats accounting
#
CONFIG_TICK_CPU_ACCOUNTING=y
# CONFIG_VIRT_CPU_ACCOUNTING_GEN is not set
# CONFIG_IRQ_TIME_ACCOUNTING is not set
CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT=y
# CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT_V3 is not set
CONFIG_TASKSTATS=y
CONFIG_TASK_DELAY_ACCT=y
CONFIG_TASK_XACCT=y
CONFIG_TASK_IO_ACCOUNTING=y
# CONFIG_PSI is not set
# end of CPU/Task time and stats accounting

# CONFIG_CPU_ISOLATION is not set

#
# RCU Subsystem
#
CONFIG_TREE_RCU=y
# CONFIG_RCU_EXPERT is not set
CONFIG_SRCU=y
CONFIG_TREE_SRCU=y
CONFIG_RCU_STALL_COMMON=y
CONFIG_RCU_NEED_SEGCBLIST=y
# end of RCU Subsystem

CONFIG_IKCONFIG=y
CONFIG_IKCONFIG_PROC=y
# CONFIG_IKHEADERS is not set
CONFIG_LOG_BUF_SHIFT=18
CONFIG_LOG_CPU_MAX_BUF_SHIFT=12
CONFIG_PRINTK_SAFE_LOG_BUF_SHIFT=13
CONFIG_HAVE_UNSTABLE_SCHED_CLOCK=y

#
# Scheduler features
#
# end of Scheduler features

CONFIG_ARCH_SUPPORTS_NUMA_BALANCING=y
CONFIG_ARCH_WANT_BATCHED_UNMAP_TLB_FLUSH=y
CONFIG_ARCH_SUPPORTS_INT128=y
CONFIG_CGROUPS=y
CONFIG_PAGE_COUNTER=y
CONFIG_MEMCG=y
CONFIG_MEMCG_SWAP=y
CONFIG_MEMCG_SWAP_ENABLED=y
CONFIG_MEMCG_KMEM=y
CONFIG_BLK_CGROUP=y
CONFIG_CGROUP_WRITEBACK=y
CONFIG_CGROUP_SCHED=y
CONFIG_FAIR_GROUP_SCHED=y
CONFIG_CFS_BANDWIDTH=y

Re: [gentoo-user] Live CD

[jdm]

On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 11:16:23 -0500
Dale  wrote:

> Jack wrote:
> > sys-libs/gpm perhaps?  
> 
> That should be the one.  I have that installed and I use it on those
> rare occasions when the GUI doesn't come up and I need to edit a
> config file by pasting from a error to a file.  It comes in handy
> since typing it in manually could result in a typo etc. 
> 
> I keep mine in the default runlevel.  However, if a person finds
> themselves in the boot runlevel, just start the gpm service.  I've
> never seen it depend on anything else so it should start with no
> problem even in a otherwise broken system.  It should start even if
> in single user mode.
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-) 

Doing some playing with various desktops at the moment trying to get
wayland and some other stuff to work. So I really useful thing to know.

Thanks again.

John

Re: [gentoo-user] Live CD

[jdm]

On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 12:05:13 -0400
Jack  wrote:

> sys-libs/gpm perhaps?
> 
> On 6/6/20 12:01 PM, jdm wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have had to use the Gentoo Minimal Installation Cd to rescue my
> > system due something going wrong with UEFI boot crazyness. Which is
> > resolved now.
> >
> > What I have noticed is that you can use a mouse and copy/paste at
> > the command prompt in what looks like framebuffer/tty session or
> > whatever that is called before you get GUI desktop.
> >
> > Anyone know how this magic is done? It's well cool.
> >
> > John
> >  
> 

Brilliant, thank you very much. Got that working.

Wasn't sure what process was running with ps -ef or if it was a kernel
thing. 

John

[gentoo-user] Live CD

[jdm]

Hello,

I have had to use the Gentoo Minimal Installation Cd to rescue my
system due something going wrong with UEFI boot crazyness. Which is
resolved now. 

What I have noticed is that you can use a mouse and copy/paste at the
command prompt in what looks like framebuffer/tty session or whatever
that is called before you get GUI desktop.

Anyone know how this magic is done? It's well cool.

John

Re: [gentoo-user] Graphics Card Advice

[jdm]

On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 10:17:37 +0200
tu...@posteo.de wrote:

> On 04/29 06:05, jdm wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I have just bought a RX 5600 XT and after a few issues with screen
> > freezing after kernel starts loading, resolved by compiling EFIFB
> > (no previous FB compiled in) the card has been working fine for 2
> > days booting normally. The machine then started not to boot, not
> > even to get to BIOS (so you couldn't even press DEL to get to BIOS
> > screen). I took the card out and replaced with old card and PC
> > started fine. I tried this 4 times and still with new card PC would
> > not even POST. I don't have a little speaker to here if there are
> > any beeps.
> > 
> > I am returning the card as it feels like that is the problem but
> > have a nagging suspicion this could be some other problem like
> > power supply. I have 700W coolermaster PSU which should be ample
> > (according to websites) but is 9 years (amazingly they had the
> > foresight to provide 8 and 6 pin cables which were both plugged in).
> > 
> > My next issue is do I get another 5600 XT (different brand) or are
> > nvidia equivalent better? I have always been an AMD fan. Could I
> > end up in the same boat.
> > 
> > PC spec - ASUS 470 Pro MB with 2700 Ryzen.
> > 
> > Any advice would be much appreciated?
> > 
> > John
> >   
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> what graphicscard you want depends heavily on what you want to
> do with your PC...
> What are the tasks, which put a heavy load on your PC/graphicscard and
> which you are do regularily?
> Do you do a lot of rendering (Blender for example) or video
> (re-)encoding? Do you AI related things (tesorflow for example)?
> Or is gaming you main application?
> 
> Furthermore: You CPU must fit your graphicscard performancewise.
> It makes no sense to choose "a performance beast" and to combine
> it with a "entry level being".
> The fastest graphicscard can onlu as fast, as data are coming from
> the CPU and vice versa.
> 
> On the internet you find a combination of the Ryzen 5 3600 with
> one of the nvidia RTX 20[678] SUPER cards. The RTX 2060 SUPER
> comes with 8GByte of video ram instead of 6 GBYte of the RTX 2060.
> 
> "Linus Tech Tipps" and "Tom's Hardware" are probablu to look for.
> 
> HTH!
> 
> Cheers!
> Meino
> 
> 

Thanks for advice.

I like playing games and noticed with current card that FPS is low on a
lot of games.
I have tried to get a balance between not paying too much and specs of
monitor (2560x1440 @60 fps). According to GPU check I should get max of
80 fps @ 1440. So thought I would have some left in the bank with 5600
XT.

I'll check CPU to GPU rate.

There's too much choice and now a little worried that next card might
not work again.

John

[gentoo-user] Graphics Card Advice

[jdm]

Hi,

I have just bought a RX 5600 XT and after a few issues with screen
freezing after kernel starts loading, resolved by compiling EFIFB (no
previous FB compiled in) the card has been working fine for 2 days
booting normally. The machine then started not to boot, not even to get
to BIOS (so you couldn't even press DEL to get to BIOS screen). I took
the card out and replaced with old card and PC started fine. I tried
this 4 times and still with new card PC would not even POST. I don't
have a little speaker to here if there are any beeps.

I am returning the card as it feels like that is the problem but have a
nagging suspicion this could be some other problem like power supply. I
have 700W coolermaster PSU which should be ample (according to websites)
but is 9 years (amazingly they had the foresight to provide 8 and 6 pin
cables which were both plugged in).

My next issue is do I get another 5600 XT (different brand) or are
nvidia equivalent better? I have always been an AMD fan. Could I end up
in the same boat.

PC spec - ASUS 470 Pro MB with 2700 Ryzen.

Any advice would be much appreciated?

John

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Tinderboxes?

[jdm]

On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 12:20:38 +0100
Neil Bothwick  wrote:

> On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 12:17:23 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote:
> 
> > >"BOINC is an open-source software platform for computing using
> > >volunteered 
> > >resources."
> > 
> > Considering the current situation, I switched my systems to
> > foldingathome.  
> 
> Aren't BOINC doing COViD-19 work too?
> 
> 

Rosetta@Home

Running night and day.

John

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE Panel Mouse Problem

[jdm]

On Sat, 22 Feb 2020 13:52:09 +0200
Franz Fellner  wrote:

> Autohide seems to work fine here.
> Do you have the feature activated, that lets you change desktop when
> the mouse hits the borders? If I activate that and have configured
> the Virtual Desktop applet to show 4 desktops in two rows I get the
> described effect: Hitting any of the four edges won't show the panel
> but change the desktop, the mouse jumps to the opposite side.
> 
> Am Sa., 22. Feb. 2020 um 13:10 Uhr schrieb jdm :
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > For the last three versions of plasma including latest 5.18 I am
> > having a problem with panels. If I put autohide on and place the
> > mouse on edge of the screen to get the panel to show my mouse
> > (pointer) jumps to another part of the screen. It jumps out of the
> > panel which hides again.
> >
> > This has been happening for the last 3 versions, I have created a
> > new user and still have the problem and cleaned up configs.
> >
> > I have tried 3 different type of panels (app, default and empty)
> > and in 4 places. It's even worse when placed on left or bottom as
> > mouse jumps to centre.
> >
> >
> > ---
> > |   X  |
> > |  |
> > |  |
> > |  |
> > |X   X |
> > |X   X |
> > |X   X |
> > |X   X |
> > |X   X |
> > |X |
> > |  |
> > |  |
> > |XX|
> > 
> > Figure 1. Screenshot of panel placements.
> >
> > When the panel is not on autohide there is no mouse jump
> >
> > Any ideas.
> >
> > John
> >
> >  

Hi. The feature is not activated. So I have activated but still the
same problem.

It's really frustrating.

John

[gentoo-user] KDE Panel Mouse Problem

[jdm]

Hi,

For the last three versions of plasma including latest 5.18 I am having
a problem with panels. If I put autohide on and place the mouse on edge
of the screen to get the panel to show my mouse (pointer) jumps to
another part of the screen. It jumps out of the panel which hides again.

This has been happening for the last 3 versions, I have created a new
user and still have the problem and cleaned up configs. 

I have tried 3 different type of panels (app, default and empty) and in
4 places. It's even worse when placed on left or bottom as mouse
jumps to centre.


---
|   X  |
|  |
|  |
|  |
|X   X |
|X   X |
|X   X |
|X   X |
|X   X |
|X |
|  |
|  |
|XX|

Figure 1. Screenshot of panel placements.

When the panel is not on autohide there is no mouse jump

Any ideas.

John

Re: [gentoo-user] XDM Start Faster

[jdm]

On Mon, 9 Dec 2019 22:27:40 +
jdm  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Over the last couple of weeks my wifi connection net.wlp5s0 doesn't
> see to want to connect at boot up (It used to be very fast but now
> taking 1min +). Therefore XDM (login screen slim) takes a long time
> to start up. And LXD daemon doesn't start at all.
> 
> I have my rc.conf set to rc_parallel="YES" but if I set this to "NO"
> then clamd seems to take an age to start up as well as the wireless.
> 
> Is there a way I can get XDM to start quicker and leave the other
> services to start up whilst logging in. I can then set rc_parrallel to
> "NO" which I hope should ensure LXD starts correctly.
> 
> It's only a minor gripe but feels like it's taking a long time to
> login. At least if I can get into desktop I can change wallpaper,
> themes and icons whilst my wireless decides to get a grip.
> 
> Thanks
> John
> 

After some testing this looks like a kernel problem. I updated kernel
to 4.19.86 and keep getting slow start up of wireless card during boot
process. Revert back to 4.19.82 and have no issues and PC keeps booting
in very fast time.

Think I'll try something newer as they must have done some wirless
network ath9k updates to 86. Deep joy. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
But maybe is for someone else.

John

[gentoo-user] XDM Start Faster

[jdm]

Hi,

Over the last couple of weeks my wifi connection net.wlp5s0 doesn't see
to want to connect at boot up (It used to be very fast but now taking
1min +). Therefore XDM (login screen slim) takes a long time to start
up. And LXD daemon doesn't start at all.

I have my rc.conf set to rc_parallel="YES" but if I set this to "NO"
then clamd seems to take an age to start up as well as the wireless.

Is there a way I can get XDM to start quicker and leave the other
services to start up whilst logging in. I can then set rc_parrallel to
"NO" which I hope should ensure LXD starts correctly.

It's only a minor gripe but feels like it's taking a long time to
login. At least if I can get into desktop I can change wallpaper,
themes and icons whilst my wireless decides to get a grip.

Thanks
John

Re: [gentoo-user] Black Screen of Death

[jdm]

On Fri, 19 Jul 2019 06:09:47 +0100
jdm  wrote:

> On Fri, 19 Jul 2019 10:59:23 +1000
> Adam Carter  wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 8:28 AM jdm  wrote:
> >   
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > For the last 2 months I have been getting a problem where my
> > > machine locks and after 2 seconds goes to a black screen. The
> > > machine is then unusable, ctrl-alt-delete F1 or sys rescue keys
> > > do not work and you cannot remote login.
> > >
> > > I initially thought this was a problem with lxd but then
> > > experienced issue when just using Enlightenment desktop. I have
> > > switched to xfce4 but still getting issue.
> > >
> > > It happens 2 to 3 times a week.
> > >
> > > There is nothing in logs (/var/log/messages).
> > >
> > > I upgraded BIOS a beginning of year so don't think it's that but
> > > have just upgraded again to see if that helps.
> > >
> > > Running ASUS Prime x470 Prime with ryzen 2700 and have upgraded
> > > kernel to latest stable when running emerge --update...
> > >
> > > Any idea on how to debug an issue like this?
> > >
> > 
> > A few questions;
> > - do you boot straight into X ? If so, have you tried disabling X to
> > see if the CLI only is stable?
> > - Which video card and are you using and are you loading the
> > firmware?
> > - Have you done an emerge @x11-module-rebuild since your last kernel
> > update?
> > - Anything interesting in ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log? If 'Build
> > Operating System' and 'Current Operating System' are different you
> > could try rebuilding xorg-server, but it shouldn't matter.
> > 
> > I've only heard of the c-state issue affecting early Ryzen 1s.  
> 
> Hi,
> Will try disabling X as always boot straight into WM.
> 
> Video card in Radeon RX480 and I have firmware loaded into kernel
> as followed wiki. I will check this I have not looked into this for a
> long time.
> 
> /.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log Current and Build are consistent.
> 
> I'll see if I can see c-state in BIOS which another email suggests as
> well.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> John
> 
>  
> 

I have updated firmware line in kernel as this now includes a few extra
lines so not loading all of the available firmware.

Thanks for advice and I'll see how I get on.

John

Re: [gentoo-user] Black Screen of Death

[jdm]

On Fri, 19 Jul 2019 10:59:23 +1000
Adam Carter  wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 8:28 AM jdm  wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > For the last 2 months I have been getting a problem where my machine
> > locks and after 2 seconds goes to a black screen. The machine is
> > then unusable, ctrl-alt-delete F1 or sys rescue keys do not work
> > and you cannot remote login.
> >
> > I initially thought this was a problem with lxd but then experienced
> > issue when just using Enlightenment desktop. I have switched to
> > xfce4 but still getting issue.
> >
> > It happens 2 to 3 times a week.
> >
> > There is nothing in logs (/var/log/messages).
> >
> > I upgraded BIOS a beginning of year so don't think it's that but
> > have just upgraded again to see if that helps.
> >
> > Running ASUS Prime x470 Prime with ryzen 2700 and have upgraded
> > kernel to latest stable when running emerge --update...
> >
> > Any idea on how to debug an issue like this?
> >  
> 
> A few questions;
> - do you boot straight into X ? If so, have you tried disabling X to
> see if the CLI only is stable?
> - Which video card and are you using and are you loading the firmware?
> - Have you done an emerge @x11-module-rebuild since your last kernel
> update?
> - Anything interesting in ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log? If 'Build
> Operating System' and 'Current Operating System' are different you
> could try rebuilding xorg-server, but it shouldn't matter.
> 
> I've only heard of the c-state issue affecting early Ryzen 1s.

Hi,
Will try disabling X as always boot straight into WM.

Video card in Radeon RX480 and I have firmware loaded into kernel
as followed wiki. I will check this I have not looked into this for a
long time.

/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log Current and Build are consistent.

I'll see if I can see c-state in BIOS which another email suggests as
well.

Thanks

John

 

[gentoo-user] Black Screen of Death

[jdm]

Hi,

For the last 2 months I have been getting a problem where my machine
locks and after 2 seconds goes to a black screen. The machine is then
unusable, ctrl-alt-delete F1 or sys rescue keys do not work and you
cannot remote login.

I initially thought this was a problem with lxd but then experienced
issue when just using Enlightenment desktop. I have switched to xfce4
but still getting issue. 

It happens 2 to 3 times a week.

There is nothing in logs (/var/log/messages).

I upgraded BIOS a beginning of year so don't think it's that but have
just upgraded again to see if that helps.

Running ASUS Prime x470 Prime with ryzen 2700 and have upgraded kernel
to latest stable when running emerge --update...

Any idea on how to debug an issue like this?

I do dual boot with Windows and have not had this issue there so feels
like a Linux issue. Playing some quite intensive games on Windows but
last lock up on Linux was opening a terminal.

Any advice or guidance would be much appreciated.

John

Re: [gentoo-user] virt-manager qemu problem

[jdm]

On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 23:39:42 +
Mick  wrote:

> On Saturday, 17 November 2018 10:55:21 GMT jdm wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I am trying to run virt-manager and or qemu with 3d acceleration
> > using virtio-gpu options.
> > 
> > When I start the virtual machine in virt-manager all I get is a
> > screen of static (complete screen corruption of lines and blocks)
> > 
> > I also get the same problem when trying to start from CLI with the
> > following
> > 
> > /usr/bin/qemu-system-x86_64 \
> > -enable-kvm \
> > -cpu host \
> > -smp 8 \
> > -m 4G \
> > -net nic,macaddr=52:54:00:12:34:56 -net user \
> > -soundhw es1370 \
> > -usb -device usb-tablet \
> > -show-cursor \
> > -vga virtio \
> > -display gtk,gl=on \
> > -drive file=arch.img,if=virtio &
> > 
> > This used to work fine but has recently gone wrong. I have tried
> > several guests all with the same results of corrupted screens.
> > 
> > I can start machines with normal qxl options and all is fine so
> > think this is just an issue with virtio 3d acceleration.
> > 
> > Any ideas?
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > John  
> 
> All I can think is this should be related to the host GPU and any
> recent update to its drivers.  On an old Radeon here I have not
> noticed any problems running:
> 
> -display gtk,gl=on
> 
> or
> 
> -display sdl,gl=on
> 

I decided to update virglrenderer upto version  (not sure if I
should do this but heyho) as there is only one version available. This
has allowed me to run vm from CLI so that has helped there but not with
virt-manager, which now just shows a blank screen.

I have a RX480 radeon card which is yearish old so perhaps support for
newer cards is not as good.

John

[gentoo-user] virt-manager qemu problem

[jdm]

Hi,

I am trying to run virt-manager and or qemu with 3d acceleration using
virtio-gpu options. 

When I start the virtual machine in virt-manager all I get is a screen
of static (complete screen corruption of lines and blocks) 

I also get the same problem when trying to start from CLI with the
following

/usr/bin/qemu-system-x86_64 \
-enable-kvm \
-cpu host \
-smp 8 \
-m 4G \
-net nic,macaddr=52:54:00:12:34:56 -net user \
-soundhw es1370 \
-usb -device usb-tablet \
-show-cursor \
-vga virtio \
-display gtk,gl=on \
-drive file=arch.img,if=virtio &

This used to work fine but has recently gone wrong. I have tried
several guests all with the same results of corrupted screens.

I can start machines with normal qxl options and all is fine so
think this is just an issue with virtio 3d acceleration.

Any ideas?

Thanks

John

Re: [gentoo-user] claws-mail HTML

[jdm]

On Mon, 3 Sep 2018 20:10:25 +0100
Neil Bothwick  wrote:

> On Mon, 3 Sep 2018 19:25:55 +0000, jdm wrote:
> 
> > Does anyone know if claws-mail can read HTML?
> > 
> > According to wiki enabling dillo use flag should work but this is no
> > longer available.
> > 
> > Any suggestions.
> > 
> > I'm sure I used to be able to read HTML emails.  
> 
> Dillo support went away a while ago but came back in the recent 3.17.0
> release, as long as you set the dillo USE flag and enable the plugin
> in the Claws configuration.
> 
> I see you are using 3.15.0 so if you want HTML support, you'll need to
> add ~mail-client/claws-mail-3.17.0 to package.accept_keywords
> 
> 

Thanks for the advice. Using 3.17 has worked.

Also had to change settings in 
Configuration
Preferences
Message View
Text Options
HTML Messages
 Untick render HTML message as text
 Select other two options

Thank you

John 

[gentoo-user] claws-mail HTML

[jdm]

Hi All,

Does anyone know if claws-mail can read HTML?

According to wiki enabling dillo use flag should work but this is no
longer available.

Any suggestions.

I'm sure I used to be able to read HTML emails.

Thanks

John

Re: [gentoo-user] [Maybe OT]: Instability of system

[jdm]

On Fri, 25 May 2018 05:29:28 +
john  wrote:

> On Thu, 24 May 2018 18:31:35 -0400
> Rich Freeman  wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 7:21 PM john  wrote:  
> > > On Sun, 20 May 2018 23:20:36 +0100
> > > Mick  wrote:
> >   
> > > > On Sunday, 20 May 2018 21:54:32 BST Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > My system is an AMD Ryzen processor on an Asus Prime X370-Pro
> > > > > mainboard, and is just over a year old.
> > > > >
> > > Interesting post.
> > > Just read this and have same issue.
> > > AMD Ryzen
> > > X370 Asus motherboard
> > 
> > 
> > You guys don't have an early CPU with the segfault bug, do you?  I
> > don't know if they ever fully characterized the circumstances that
> > can cause it, but if it can make a compiler segfault, I don't see
> > why it couldn't make a kernel panic.  At least not without knowing
> > more about what actually triggers the bug...
> >   
> 
> Could be. I bought CPU only a month or so after release.
> Initially thought it was an enlightenment desktop issue but have
> reproduced on KDE and xfce. It happens usually when doing something
> quite simple like clicking on a Window to minimise or just in a
> terminal. Nothing stressful like an emerge gcc.
> 
> Never found anything in logs but not sure if there is a better way to
> capture problem.
> 
> Its a Ryzen 1700X
> 
> John
> 

And lo and behold just after writing email I closed claws mail and
went to open again and machine locked up. Unresponsive to anything and
it even corrupted some files as had to recreate claws-mail set up.

Slight annoying. It would nice to know if I can capture issue somehow.

Perhaps there is a way.

John (keeping backups up to date)

Re: [gentoo-user] AMDGPU KMS Problems

[jdm]

On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 23:29:39 +0100
jdm <j...@jdm.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 03:12:49 -0400
> P Levine <plevine...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 5:34 PM, jdm <j...@jdm.myzen.co.uk> wrote:  
> > > Any thouhgts much appreciated.
> > 
> > I tried helping to diagnose a similar problem for a user on Reddit
> > recently, blackscreen/freeze with AMDGPU on boot. After trying
> > everything else he switched the PCI slot the card was in and it
> > booted up fine.  He then switched the card back to the original PCI
> > slot and it still booted up fine.  It seemed to be some weird kind
> > of hardware/bios hiccup.  If you've tried everything else, it
> > wouldn't hurt to fumble around with the graphics card just to see
> > if it makes a difference.
> >   
> 
> Well, well, well.
> 
> Bizarre. took out my old radeon r9 280 card and put the RX480 amdgpu 
> back in and rebooted to a kernel which I had configured for amdgpu 
> and booted with no issues, not needing modeset and xorg working fine
> and dandy.
> 
> Never seen anything like this before. Bring back the days when you had
> a primary and secondary hard drives on a serial bus. Far easier when
> you have to configure your own IRQs.
> 
> Thanks for the advice.
> 
> John. 
> 
> 
To prove that reseating the graphics has sorted the issue I have tried
a few other distros and had no problems. 

John

Re: [gentoo-user] AMDGPU KMS Problems

[jdm]

On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 03:12:49 -0400
P Levine <plevine...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 5:34 PM, jdm <j...@jdm.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> > Any thouhgts much appreciated.  
> 
> I tried helping to diagnose a similar problem for a user on Reddit
> recently, blackscreen/freeze with AMDGPU on boot. After trying
> everything else he switched the PCI slot the card was in and it booted
> up fine.  He then switched the card back to the original PCI slot and
> it still booted up fine.  It seemed to be some weird kind of
> hardware/bios hiccup.  If you've tried everything else, it wouldn't
> hurt to fumble around with the graphics card just to see if it makes a
> difference.
> 

Well, well, well.

Bizarre. took out my old radeon r9 280 card and put the RX480 amdgpu 
back in and rebooted to a kernel which I had configured for amdgpu 
and booted with no issues, not needing modeset and xorg working fine
and dandy.

Never seen anything like this before. Bring back the days when you had
a primary and secondary hard drives on a serial bus. Far easier when
you have to configure your own IRQs.

Thanks for the advice.

John. 

[gentoo-user] AMDGPU KMS Problems

[jdm]

Hi All,

A few months ago I bought a AMD RX 480 GPU and followed the Gentoo
amdgpu guide and everything ran just fine with excellent graphics
performance.

At the weekend I upgraded my PC from a AMD 970 chipset to a x370
chipset (fx8300 to ryzen 1700x).

I re-installed Gentoo but the first time I started the boot iso the
screen froze, so I tried the nomodeset option and booted ok and
installed as per usual. 

After rebooting to new install the screen froze again and the only way
to get it to boot was using kernel option nomodeset. This then gave me
another problem as it could not startx (no screens found).

I checked the config of the kernel (inc firmware) and could not find
an issue. I then tried arch/fedora/ubuntu and all froze at boot and then
worked with nomodeset.

I have now gone back to using an old graphics card which uses radeon
and have no problems starting xorg-server.

1) Is this likeley to be a kernel issue (amdgpu drm)?
2) Could this be a firmware issue (amd)?
3) Could this be a motherboard/processor issue?
4) Can you think of any ways round this so I can use the RX 480 gpu

Any thouhgts much appreciated.

John

[gentoo-user] AMDGPU

[jdm]

Hi,

Just followed the amdgpu wiki guide to get my new graphics card up and
running. Excellent wiki guide and had no issues. Now running with
shiny graphics and throwing all that Steam has to offer at it. 

Many Thanks to the wiki authors.

Will we always have to include binary blobs into the kernel for AMD
cards? This feels kind of odd for me so wondering if this will be
included as a package or a kernel driver at some point or what the
future direction is for AMD graphics with Linux. 

It may not be alien but not done this before so curious.

John

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE Konqueror

[jdm]

On Sunday 03 November 2013 17:10:14 Marc Joliet wrote:
Am Sun, 3 Nov 2013 10:42:17 +

schrieb Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com:
 On Sunday 03 Nov 2013 10:17:55 Neil Bothwick wrote:
  On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 00:41:54 +, jdm wrote:
   I think they are flash but I cannot play any video on youtube
   (also
   dailymotion). I thought youtube had gone html5 but not so sure,
   as get
   Could not load movie '/tmp/kde-john/konquerorPS4531.swf'. So I
   think
   this is flash. Using khtml.
  
  It may be that YouTube still defaults to flash and you have to tell
  it
  you prefer HTML5 in your preferences.
 
 Yes, you can set up youtube cookies to recognise that you want to use
 HTML5 as Neil suggests, or if you still want to fix Konqueror to
 play flash videos you need to go in Konqueror settings/Plugins and
 click on Scan for Plugins.  It should pick up what it needs as
 long as you have the right packages installed (like adobe flash).

[...]

In addition to that, you can also deactivate the Flash plug-in, in
which case YouTube switches to HTML5 once it notices that the Flash
plug-in is missing (it only fails if your browser does not support any
of the formats the video is available in). Recently I've gone over to
using the FlashDisable extension for Firefox to only activate Flash
*temporarily* when I really need it.

Also, consider youtube-dl, which came recommended by a friend and has
worked wonderfully for me for a variety of sites (youtube, vimeo,
soundcloud, etc.).

HTH


Thanks for the advice. I got this to work by installing kde-
misc/kwebkitpart-1.3.1 and selecting webkit as default engine. Not sure 
why it won't work with khtml but as they say in Birmighman ces't la 
vie or something like that.

Thanks

John

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE Konqueror

[jdm]

On Saturday 02 November 2013 16:31:21 Mick wrote:
On Saturday 02 Nov 2013 00:02:26 jdm wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I cannot run any youtube videos with Konqueror. Any suggestions?
 They run fine in Firefox.
 
 John D Maunder

Are they flash or HTML 5 videos?  Are your plugins configured as they
should be in Konqueror?

PS.  I don't think that there is a difference between webkit and khtml
engines - it works with both fine here.

I think they are flash but I cannot play any video on youtube (also 
dailymotion). I thought youtube had gone html5 but not so sure, as get 
Could not load movie '/tmp/kde-john/konquerorPS4531.swf'. So I think 
this is flash. Using khtml.

I have gone on to other sites and some videos play. Its hist and miss. 
(100% failure on youtube). Its nice to now that it's working for you so 
I will try a few rebuilds and use flags perhaps.

I have tried both 32 and 64 flash (and all versions), with and without 
nspluginwrapper.

Its just an annoyance as I can play all with firefox. It's just that I 
want to be kde only for the time being.


John

[gentoo-user] KDE Konqueror

[jdm]

Hello,

I cannot run any youtube videos with Konqueror. Any suggestions?
They run fine in Firefox. 

John D Maunder

[gentoo-user] STEAM

[jdm]

Big thanks to the guys and girls who got the STEAM overlay up and
running.

Its awesome. 

PS Along with Gentoo of course. 
Getting darn all done in the way of work though!

Steam on Linux. Alas I can see the end of my dual booting days. 

Regards
John

[gentoo-user] lxc

[jdm]

Hello,

I have recently been trying lxc and after a recent upgrade I get the
following message:

lxc-execute: No such file or directory - failed to create symlink for
kmsg 
lxc-execute: failed to setup kmsg for 'jack' 
lxc-execute: failed to setup the container 
lxc-execute: invalid sequence number 1. expected 2 
lxc-execute: failed to spawn 'jack'

this is just trying the following

lxc-execute --name jack /bin/bash

This started a container a few weeks ago but now gives this error
(after recent upgrade).

I am not using a config file (I didn't before). Do you now have to have
a config file? Or am i missing something (which is highly likely).

I'm trying to work through a tutorial but have hit the first stumbling
block.

John D Maunder

[gentoo-user] Hard drive change

[jdm]

I am about to change my hard drive on my machine from a 500GB to 2tb.

To transfer I  intend to dd the partitions across and then resize using lvm as 
home swap var are located on lvm.

Is this the right approach or would you recommend another method?

John D Maunder.

[gentoo-user] uefi gpt grub2

[jdm]

Over the last few days I have tried to set up using uefi gpt and grub2. After 
many hours of frustration I have gone back to grub legacy and mbr.

I followed the Gentoo wiki  and Arch wiki and several other sources of which I 
failed miserably. Is this technology fairly unreliable? I booted from a uefi 
enabled usb stick but still fell over. Is this ready for mainstream or 
 still alpha like?

Also does ufibootmgr change motherboard firmware? Somehow this feels 
wrong if the case.

John D Maunder 

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive change

[jdm]

Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote :

 On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 11:08:18 +, j...@jdm.myzen.co.uk
 wrote:
 
  I am about to change my hard drive on my machine from a 500GB to 2tb.
  
  To transfer I  intend to dd the partitions across and then resize using
  lvm as home swap var are located on lvm.
 
 Can you connect both drives ate the same time? If so you can create a PV
 on the new drive, add it to your VG and then use lvmove to move the date
 before removing the old drive from the VG. That way you can continue to
 use the computer while the transfer takes place.
 
 
 -- 
 Neil Bothwick
 
 How do I set my laser printer to stun?

Yes I can connect to both drives at the same time. My root partition is not on 
lvm. This sounds like an excellent idea. Thanks.

Fairly new to lvm but it seems very solid and capable

[gentoo-user] qemu-kvm and xscreensaver

[jdm]

Whenever I run a qemu-kvm when xscreensaver starts it stops guest os from 
working. Eg if I am emerging on guest or downloading a file when xscreensaver 
starts on the host the guest freezes. Stopping xscreensaver and guest continues 
where left off.

I can cure this by disabling xscreensaver but should this happening and is 
there a way round this other than to turn off xscreensaver on host.

I have disabled hibernate or sleep but this makes no difference. It seems to 
happen when the screen goes in pretty picture mode.

I am running gentoo host with gentoo guest and desktop is xfce on host.

John

[gentoo-user] qemu-kvm and xscreensaver

[jdm]

Whenever I run a qemu-kvm when xscreensaver starts it stops guest os from 
working. Eg if I am emerging on guest or downloading a file when xscreensaver 
starts on the host the guest freezes. Stopping xscreensaver and guest continues 
where left off.

I can cure this by disabling xscreensaver but should this happening and is 
there a way round this other than to turn off xscreensaver on host.

I have disabled hibernate or sleep but this makes no difference. It seems to 
happen when the screen goes in pretty picture mode.

I am running gentoo host with gentoo guest and desktop is xfce on host.

John

[gentoo-user] Keyboard

[jdm]

Fellow Gentoers,

I have just bought a nice and shiny new gaming keyboard

Solid Year Keysonic KSK-6001 UELX 

The keyboard works at BIOS, grub and in Windows.

But is totally unresponsive using Linux apart from Backspace(lol)

After searching the net I found the issue was due to anti-ghosting
built into keyboard. This can be turned off with Ctr-Alt-Shift-N and
keyboard works fine.

Are there any drivers which can be used to disable this?

It's not too bad but a minor irritance but nice to have a cure.

Thanks

-- 
John D Maunder

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: move to xfce and forget kde and gnome

[jdm]

Lazlo my use flags for keeping kde and gnome away are  -kde -gnome  -qt4

I also have 
eselect profile set 1

You may have to use /etc/portage/package.use to get guis to some packages
That may need kde or gnome


Jdm


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-Original Message-
From: Space Cake spaceca...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 16:07:40 
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: move to xfce and forget kde and gnome

On 2011. aug. 19., péntek, 14.54.40 CEST, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
 On 08/19/2011 03:02 PM, Space Cake wrote:
 hi,

 after playing a lot with desktop environment first I've decided to move
 from kde to gnome because kde is too shine and eat too much and
 contains a lot of feature which I don't really need.. gnome is good but
 still too fat so finally I've found Xfce which is perfect for my
 needs... :)

 my question is what is the easiest way to get rid of kde/gnome stuff? is
 this enough to change my useflags to -kde and -gnome? Is there any list
 what I can safely unmerge in this case?
 
 You change your profile.  You can see your current profile with:
 
   eselect profile list
 
 For KDE you would use default/linux/amd64/10.0/desktop/kde and for
 Gnome default/linux/amd64/10.0/desktop/gnome.
 
 For anything else, use default/linux/amd64/10.0/desktop.  Then do a:
 
   emerge -auDN --with-bdeps=y world
   emerge -a --depclean
 
 If KDE/Gnome stuff still remains after that, use:
 
   emerge -pv --depclean package
 
 to see what's pulling-in package.

Are you sure that's all? No need to change my global useflags at all? 
When I change profile and check what would be re-emerged, only a few 
minor changes exists. What I would like to achieve to get rid of all 
the fat kde/gnome stuff but of course without re install my whole 
system. Is there anyone here who already did something similar?

Thank you
Laszlo

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered

[jdm]

Survey answer

Desktop and laptop gentoo. Both for personal use. Desktop hosts webserver for 
pictures and stuff (keeps the mrs happy) inc samba, kvm,  etc

Been using for 4 years and still haven't got a clue but mailing list has been 
great for tips and advice and sanity.

Dual boot with windows 7 but only for games. How sad


--Original Message--
From: Adam Carter
To: Gentoo
ReplyTo: Gentoo
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered
Sent: 16 Aug 2011 04:37

 This is related to a question I wanted to poll the list with. How does
 everybody here use Gentoo?

1. Server at friends house on fixed IP ADSL2 annex M for DNS,
SMTP+IMAP mail, web+wiki, and a second sshd on port 443, so i can get
to it from work :).
2. Home laptop, which runs vmware for Windows 7, XP, SecurePlatform etc
3. Home proxy running squid in interception mode with gzip ecap, DNS
caching, DHCP, hostapd on ADSL2
4. VMware guest on work laptop



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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kde-meta

[jdm]

Other packages emerge fine. Have emerge sync and update world plus emerge 
mplayer which all ok. Seen on forum to select desktop profile to get round this 
but have not tried yet. 
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-Original Message-
From: Francesco Talamona francesco.talam...@know.eu
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 06:40:10 
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Kde-meta

On Sunday 07 August 2011, john wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I am trying to emerge kde-meta but getting the following error
 message
 
 Calculating dependencies... done!
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /usr/bin/emerge, line 43, in module
 retval = emerge_main()
   File /usr/lib64/portage/pym/_emerge/main.py, line 1907, in
 emerge_main myopts, myaction, myfiles, spinner)
   File /usr/lib64/portage/pym/_emerge/actions.py, line 302, in
 action_build mydepgraph.display_problems()
   File /usr/lib64/portage/pym/_emerge/depgraph.py, line 5998, in
 display_problems self._display_problems()
   File /usr/lib64/portage/pym/_emerge/depgraph.py, line 6019, in
 _display_problems self._show_slot_collision_notice()
   File /usr/lib64/portage/pym/_emerge/depgraph.py, line 702, in
 _show_slot_collision_notice
 self._dynamic_config._slot_conflict_handler =
 slot_conflict_handler(self) File
 /usr/lib64/portage/pym/_emerge/resolver/slot_collision.py, line
 129, in __init__
 self._prepare_conflict_msg_and_check_for_specificity() File
 /usr/lib64/portage/pym/_emerge/resolver/slot_collision.py, line
 346, in _prepare_conflict_msg_and_check_for_specificity if use in
 violated_atom.use.enabled.union(violated_atom.use.disabled):
 AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'enabled'

Is kde-meta the only packages that give this error? Have you tried to 
emerge something else?

It looks like your computer has a problem with python.

HTH
Francesco

-- 
Linux Version 3.0.0-gentoo, Compiled #3 SMP PREEMPT Fri Aug 5 21:02:22 
CEST 2011
Two 2.8GHz AMD Athlon 64 X2 Processors, 4GB RAM, 11256 Bogomips Total
aemaeth

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kde-meta

[jdm]

Have run python-updater and python profile is set to 2.7. Looking at the forum 
a user had had a similer issue and got round this by changing profile to 
desktop. I always use base. When I get home I will try this and and kde 
profile. 


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-Original Message-
From: Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 23:53:35 
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kde-meta

Francesco Talamona wrote:

 On Sunday 07 August 2011, john wrote:

  Hello,

 

  I am trying to emerge kde-meta but getting the following error

  message

 

  Calculating dependencies... done!

  Traceback (most recent call last):

  File /usr/bin/emerge, line 43, in module

  retval = emerge_main()

  File /usr/lib64/portage/pym/_emerge/main.py, line 1907, in

  emerge_main myopts, myaction, myfiles, spinner)

  File /usr/lib64/portage/pym/_emerge/actions.py, line 302, in

  action_build mydepgraph.display_problems()

  File /usr/lib64/portage/pym/_emerge/depgraph.py, line 5998, in

  display_problems self._display_problems()

  File /usr/lib64/portage/pym/_emerge/depgraph.py, line 6019, in

  _display_problems self._show_slot_collision_notice()

  File /usr/lib64/portage/pym/_emerge/depgraph.py, line 702, in

  _show_slot_collision_notice

  self._dynamic_config._slot_conflict_handler =

  slot_conflict_handler(self) File

  /usr/lib64/portage/pym/_emerge/resolver/slot_collision.py, line

  129, in __init__

  self._prepare_conflict_msg_and_check_for_specificity() File

  /usr/lib64/portage/pym/_emerge/resolver/slot_collision.py, line

  346, in _prepare_conflict_msg_and_check_for_specificity if use in

  violated_atom.use.enabled.union(violated_atom.use.disabled):

  AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'enabled'


 Is kde-meta the only packages that give this error? Have you tried to 
 emerge something else?


 It looks like your computer has a problem with python.


 HTH

 Francesco




I was wondering the same thing.  OP, did you upgrade python and forget 
to run python-updater by chance?

Also, yours should look like this too:

root@fireball / # eselect python list
Available Python interpreters:
   [1]   python2.7 *
   [2]   python3.1
root@fireball / #

Make sure you don't have it set to 3.1.

Dale

:-)  :-)

[gentoo-user] Upgrade query

[jdm]

A little advice please? I am about to build a new box going from athlon dual 
core to phenom six core. Including new sata drives and motherboard. I was going 
to clone all my partitions and the re emerged all packages with march native

Firstly would you reccommend cloning and if so what is best technology?

Second is a complete reinstall a better option or safer?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrade query

[jdm]

Thanks. Rsync sounds like a good option as I can boot pc with old hard disks 
installed.

I assume that rsync works ok with ntfs?

Jdm
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-Original Message-
From: Albert Hopkins mar...@letterboxes.org
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 06:18:53 
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrade query



On Thursday, July 21 at 10:01 (+), j...@jdm.myzen.co.uk said:

 A little advice please? I am about to build a new box going from
 athlon dual core to phenom six core. Including new sata drives and
 motherboard. I was going to clone all my partitions and the re emerged
 all packages with march native
 
 Firstly would you reccommend cloning and if so what is best
 technology?

When I move to a different machine, I just

  * boot into a live cd
  * back up all the partitions with rsync (or use tar or similar if
you need compression) to an external (USB) drive.
  * boot new machine into livcd
  * repartion, copy backed up files
  * install bootloader (and reconfigure/build kernel if necessary)

If both source and target are on the same network you can probably also
get away with rsync'ing over the LAN instead of using an external drive.

As for what technology is best, they are not going to make a whole lot
of difference, IMO.  I find rsync/cp easier to work with (you can
manipulate files before copying them to the new box).  tar is more
efficient if you need compression.  dd, would be the least efficient in
my opinion, because it's going to clone the entire partition, including
unused blocks, when you're really only concerned about the files.  Tools
like partimage, etc. can clone a partition smartly but I tend to use
those tools less often as I'm really only concerned about the files, not
the partitions.  Unless your source and target partitions are going to
have the exact same geometry, I don't see the benefit if cloning
partitions.

Just my 2¢

-a

Re: [gentoo-user] xfce (window manager)

[jdm]

Sometimes found re emerge xfce packages have helped with problems in particular

xfce4-panel xfce4-session xfdesktop xfwm4

Jdm
--Original Message--
From: András Csányi
To: Gentoo
ReplyTo: Gentoo
Subject: [gentoo-user] xfce (window manager)
Sent: 20 Jul 2011 09:49

Dear All,

I would like to ask the community anybody has experienced any problems
regarding xfce?
My problem is that after update the window decorators (window border,
header the buttons on the left side [close, minimize, etc]) are
missing. I'm sorry I'm not sure the window decorators definition is
the proper for them.

I've deleted my xfce settings to start a session with default settings
without any success.

Anybody has any idea or suggestion what should I do?

Thanks in advance!

András

-- 
- -
--  Csanyi Andras (Sayusi Ando)  -- http://sayusi.hu --
http://facebook.com/andras.csanyi
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Re: [gentoo-user] qemu-kvm

[jdm]

Hmmm tried system rescue and startx works just fine. Copied kernel config from 
system rescue to guest and tried genkernel from live cd. Still the same error. 
Odd on, will try windows aaaghHh. 
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-Original Message-
From: Albert Hopkins mar...@letterboxes.org
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 23:02:45 
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] qemu-kvm



On Saturday, July 16 at 01:24 (+0100), john said:

 I am running a gentoo amd64 qemu-kvm virtual image on my gentoo amd64
 box.
 
 Everything is running well. Machine boots up and all looks to be ok.
 
 When I startx the screen goes purple (on guest) and locks up. The only
 error message I get is on host.
 
 KVM internal error. Suberror: 1 emulation failure
 
 I would guess this is a graphics issue but not entirely sure.
 
 I have tried -vga cirrus, std, vmware but all have the same effect.
 
 I have emerged these in guest as xorg-drivers.
 
 Any suggestions!

I use kvm, though most of my guests are headless or just text mode.. but
i did just try booting systemrescuecd into X and all was well.

question:

  * What verison of qemu-kvm are you runing
  * which kernel
  * Have you tried other guests (such as systemrescuecd)?


Seems to work for me (with the cirrus emulator).

-a

Re: [gentoo-user] qemu-kvm

[jdm]

No unfortunately
--Original Message--
From: Matthew Finkel
To: Gentoo
ReplyTo: Gentoo
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] qemu-kvm
Sent: 16 Jul 2011 17:51

On 07/15/11 20:24, john wrote:
 I am running a gentoo amd64 qemu-kvm virtual image on my gentoo amd64
 box.

 Everything is running well. Machine boots up and all looks to be ok.

 When I startx the screen goes purple (on guest) and locks up. The only
 error message I get is on host.

 KVM internal error. Suberror: 1 emulation failure

 I would guess this is a graphics issue but not entirely sure.

 I have tried -vga cirrus, std, vmware but all have the same effect.

 I have emerged these in guest as xorg-drivers.

 Any suggestions!

Are there any entries in /var/log/messages or /var/log/X.0.log on the
guest related to the lock up?



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Re: [gentoo-user] RE: Thunderbugs

[jdm]

There real name is thripids. And are a darn nuissance. They seemingly have 
stopped moving after being fried by watching youtube clips of the real 
Thunderbugs.

Flashplayer actually has got some use after all. 
--Original Message--
From: Pandu Poluan
Sender: Pandu Poluan
To: Gentoo
ReplyTo: Gentoo
Subject: [gentoo-user] RE: Thunderbugs
Sent: 11 Jul 2011 04:09

-original message-
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Thunderbugs
From: Mike Edenfield kut...@kutulu.org
Date: 2011-07-11 06:26

On 7/10/2011 5:20 AM, john wrote:

 Had a pesky invasion of little insects behind my screen. Of which a lot
 have seemed to stop moving. Think I'll a get sealed tft next time.
 I'll try sucking them out with a hoover. Damn things, tft was 350
 pounds, you think it should have anti critters device.

Thank god. I was starting to wonder at your fixation for 
British girl groups:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbugs


He lives in the UK*! What do you expect?

* wild guess based on the currency used.

Anyways, this is a post worthy of LOL+LMAO+ROFL at the same time.

What a nice way to start my Monday :)

Rgds,
--
FdS Pandu E Poluan
~ IT Optimizer ~

Sent from Nokia E72-1




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Re: [gentoo-user] Xfce4 shutdown issues

[jdm]

Thanks Rudmer,
This works well. Thanks for your help. I was under the impression that these 
rules were supplied but obviously not. Must have got them from somewhere else 
before but can't remember where.

Many thanks
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-Original Message-
From: Rudmer van Dijk rudmer.van.d...@casema.nl
Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 07:30:50 
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Xfce4 shutdown issues

On Wednesday 06 July 2011 16:37:40 john wrote:
 Since a recent upgrade of polkit (I think) as a normal user I can no
 longer shutdown using log out, shutdown option not available. As root
 using shutdown only logs you out but does not shutdown.
 
 On a second machine as a normal user I can see shutdown but this only
 logs me out.
 
 Are we supposed to write our own rules for this?
 
 I am in plugdev group and have dbus, consolekit and polkit in use flags.
 
 I cannot see any difference between config files on 2 machines but 1 is
 a laptop the other desktop???
 
 Any suggestions other than converting to e16? (which is becoming
 tempting). This seems to happen every upgrade of xfce4/polkit/dbus.

I had the same problem and have made this rule/config in 
/etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/power.pkla

-- start file --
[Local restart]
Identity=unix-group:wheel
Action=org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.restart
ResultAny=yes
ResultInactive=no
ResultActive=yes

[Local shutdown]
Identity=unix-group:wheel
Action=org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.stop
ResultAny=yes
ResultInactive=no
ResultActive=yes

[Local restart - multiple]
Identity=unix-group:wheel
Action=org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.restart-multiple-users
ResultAny=yes
ResultInactive=no
ResultActive=yes

[Local shutdown - multiple]
Identity=unix-group:wheel
Action=org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.stop-multiple-users
ResultAny=yes
ResultInactive=no
ResultActive=yes
-- end file --

don't know where I got it from, not from a Gentoo handbook...
but this works for me 8-)

you might also want to use an udisks.pkla to access usb devices:

-- start file --
[udisks full access]
Identity=unix-group:usb
Action=org.freedesktop.udisks.*
ResultAny=yes
-- end file --


Rudmer

Re: [gentoo-user] Fbsplash

[JDM]

Oh well, will revert back to stable kernel to get my wonderful gensplash. No 
doubt 3.0 will bring plenty of gremlins. May have a play with initramfs. It 
sounds impressive anyway  
--Original Message--
From: Dale
To: Gentoo
ReplyTo: Gentoo
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Fbsplash
Sent: 24 Jun 2011 00:02

Mark Knecht wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Alan McKinnonalan.mckin...@gmail.com  
 wrote:
 SNIP

 I wonder what 3.0 will be like

  
 Newer... ;-)



Newer problems right?  :-P

Dale

:-)  :-)



JDM

[gentoo-user] Claws-mail

[JDM]

After upgrading some x11 libraries yesterday my claws-mail broke with 
segmentation fault. Upgrading to latest testing version fixed the issue. 
Believe libxcb is the culprit here. Should this be reported as a bug or will 
the devs be aware?
JDM

Re: [gentoo-user] Claws-mail

[JDM]

 Thanks Neil. The startup notification problem makes sense as when I tried 
awesome that also broke claws-mail.

JDM

-Original Message-
From: Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 11:11:44 
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Claws-mail

On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 09:53:03 +, JDM wrote:

 After upgrading some x11 libraries yesterday my claws-mail broke with
 segmentation fault. Upgrading to latest testing version fixed the
 issue. Believe libxcb is the culprit here. Should this be reported as a
 bug or will the devs be aware?

It's the startup-notification stuff that broke it, the devs are aware and
there is a bug on it.

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=362297


-- 
Neil Bothwick

I am in total control, but don't tell my wife.

[gentoo-user] Phrases

[JDM]

Neil,
Where do you get all those funky expressions from at the end of your emails? Is 
there a Genapp ebuild?
JDM

Re: [gentoo-user] Phrases

[JDM]

Is there a Gentoo facebook site? Yeap, the turtle made me chuckle as well. 
JDM

-Original Message-
From: Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 06:59:36 
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Phrases

JDM wrote:
 Neil,
 Where do you get all those funky expressions from at the end of your emails? 
 Is there a Genapp ebuild?
 JDM




I liked the one about the turtle being homeless or naked.  I posted it 
on facebook.  o_O

No offense Neil, I read the sig even if I don't read your replies.,  lol

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Phrases

[JDM]

Thanks Dale
JDM

-Original Message-
From: Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 07:19:41 
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Phrases

JDM wrote:
 Is there a Gentoo facebook site? Yeap, the turtle made me chuckle as well.
 JDM



Here it is:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Gentoo/8059228811

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Plone

[JDM]

yeah its not really the way to go but nevermind. Probably won't use it anyway. 
A little too complicated for my needs. Looking for something a bit simpler? 


JDM

-Original Message-
From: Florian Philipp li...@binarywings.net
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 12:03:01 
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Plone

Am 18.06.2011 08:50, schrieb john:
 On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:48:31 -0700
 Keith Dart ke...@dart.us.com wrote:
 
 === On Sat, 06/18, john wrote: ===
 On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 00:31:39 +0200
 Florian Philipp li...@binarywings.net wrote:

 Am 17.06.2011 23:16, schrieb john:
 Hello,

 I have installed Plone but unfortunately it will not run. I
 believe this is down to PIL not being installed as shown when
 starting Zope in foreground. 

 I have emerged dev-python/imaging but Zope still cannot see
 PIL. I think the issue is because Plone/Zope depends on python
 2.4. 

 Any recommendations on a fix???


 You might have to run python-updater in order to install all
 python-packages for this version. I'm not sure if python-updater
 does this correctly if you don't have python-2.4 enabled via
 `eselect python`. You might want to try this as well.

[...]

 Think the python-updater looks forward but not backward (if you see
 what I mean) 

 It is called the UPdater, after all.

 I have also tried changing all the references in bin scripts from
 python2.4 to python2.7 but this fails miserably. The only thing I
 can think of at the moment is to download manual package and
 install but I'm really not sure where this is going to stick all
 the modules?

 Ugh, yep. But Python is slotted, so you shouldn't have to worry about
 that. 

 --
 ~
 Keith Dart ke...@dart.us.com
 =
 
 Always a little unsure about installing packages
 manually. I like to let emerge do everything.
 
 I eselect python set 1 which set python2.4. Downloaded
 Imaging-1.1.6.tar.gz from Python site. Installed using setup.py install.
 Switched back to python2.7.
 
 Old instance would not run but:-
 
 Then created a new zopeinstance. Copied the
 contents /usr/share/zproduct/plone-3.1.7/lib/python
 and /usr/share/zproduct/plone-3.1.7/Products 
 
 to instance
 
 And yippee I can create Plone site and all looks good at the mo
 
 Thanks for advice

I've once ran Plone on Gentoo. I'm pretty sure I didn't have to resort
to manual installing but I can't remember what the solution was. Anyway,
it was too much trouble and I dropped Plone. If I ever have to use it
again, I just use a virtualized Linux installation for it which comes
with python-2.4 out-of-the-box. I'd recommend Scientific Linux-5.5
(update to 5.6 coming soon) as a Red Hat clone.

Regards,
Florian Philipp

Re: [gentoo-user] Internet

[JDM]

All hail to that. Gentoo is the best. By far.
--Original Message--
From: Roger Cahn
To: Gentoo
ReplyTo: Gentoo
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Internet
Sent: 17 Jun 2011 12:32


 Well, as long as your connection problem is now solved you can carry on with 
 using your Gentoo!  :)

Yes, I'm very happy to be able
to use it again on my desktop.
Long life to Gentoo, indeed!!!





JDM

Re: [gentoo-user] USB Problems

[JDM]

Apologies for this. It was supposed to be a general term

With regards to usb issues 2.6.39-r1 has seemed to solve a lot of issues. 

--Original Message--
From: Peter Humphrey
To: Gentoo
ReplyTo: Gentoo
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] USB Problems
Sent: 16 Jun 2011 00:34

On Sunday 12 June 2011 15:30:12 john wrote:

 Gents

[...]

It may have escaped your attention, but we here aren't all gents.

Just thought I'd mention it.

-- 
Rgds
Peter



JDM

Re: [gentoo-user] USB Problems

[JDM]

Have only tried CONFIG_HID_ROCCAT but this did not help. Will give the others a 
go.

Not quite sure why older kernels would recognise keyboard but .39 kernel does 
not and .38 I have issues with when plugging in usb stick. Are the kernel guys 
trying to make the hardware support more specific? Or should any keyboard be 
recognised? Fascinating

--Original Message--
From: Thanasis
To: Gentoo
Cc: john
ReplyTo: Gentoo
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] USB Problems
Sent: 14 Jun 2011 07:59

on 06/14/2011 08:38 AM john wrote the following:
snip
 Will try studying all options in kernel to see if I can cure this.
 There are roccat options but these are for macros and don't help. But
 there maybe more other subtle ones available.
 
 Regards
 
 Thanks for your help

Have you enabled roccat support in 2.6.39 ?

grep -i roccat .config
# CONFIG_HID_ROCCAT is not set
# CONFIG_HID_ROCCAT_ARVO is not set
# CONFIG_HID_ROCCAT_KONE is not set
# CONFIG_HID_ROCCAT_KONEPLUS is not set
# CONFIG_HID_ROCCAT_KOVAPLUS is not set
# CONFIG_HID_ROCCAT_PYRA is not set



JDM

Re: [gentoo-user] Questions about the magic Sys Req keys

[JDM]

I used to get this when using ati-drivers (radeon). This has not happened for a 
good year though. Sysreq not responsive but you could ssh into machine. Ssh 
maybe worth a try. If you do not have radeon then the advise is close to 
meaningless. 
JDM

-Original Message-
From: Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 04:18:23 
To: Gentoo Usergentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] Questions about the magic Sys Req keys

Howdy,

I just had a hard lock up.  I had a random reboot the other day while I 
was sleeping as well.  This was with gentoo-sources 2.6.39.  I'm not 
sure what caused the one the other day but I had several days of 
uptime.  The one I just had was also after a few days of uptime.   I was 
logged into KDE when EVERYTHING froze.  The mouse pointer wouldn't 
move.  The clock stopped.  The numlock light wouldn't even change when I 
hit the key for it.  So, X was locked up pretty good.  I also couldn't 
switch to a console either.  This is the odd part.  I tried to use the 
magic Alt SysReq keys to at least try to get a reasonable shutdown.  
They didn't work either.

So, my question is this.  What kind of lock up could keep the magic keys 
from working?  This is on my new amd64 machine.  It was totally stable 
until the kernel upgrade.  I think this could be a kernel issue.  I 
booted a older kernel and will test it for a few days but wanted to know 
what kind of lockups could keep the magic keys from working.  After the 
hal/xorg deal, we all know how I hate hard resets.  ;-)

Thanks much.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Recommendations for N WLAN adapter, PCI or PCIe

[JDM]

Tp-Link TL-WN951N
Works well for me on both linux and windows. Linux drivers (atheros ath9k) are 
available in kernel sources. Found this very reliable and quite cheap on amazon
JDM

-Original Message-
From: Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 17:07:20 
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] Recommendations for N WLAN adapter, PCI or PCIe

It will be used to make an AP out of a Gentoo box. Let me know what you
like.

Re: [gentoo-user] Init

[JDM]

Thanks Dale. Will try tonight when I get home. After using Gentoo for a number 
of years you get used to doing things a certain. These mailing lists really 
help expand knowledge. Regards
JDM

-Original Message-
From: Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2011 02:22:27 
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Init

Dale wrote:
 JDM wrote:
 When switching from runlevel 3 to 1  init 1 seems to work as I 
 would expect. When I init 3 applications hang, I have to keep 
 hitting return to get any progress. Usually I end up rebooting as X 
 won't start.

 Question - should I be using init to change runlevels or is there a 
 better way of doing this?

 This has been happening for a long time and definitely before openrc. 
 I usually reboot to avoid the hang ups.
 JDM

 You should be using the rc command tho init should work in theory.  
 Example, rc single or rc default or whatever runlevel you want to 
 switch to.  That is without the quotes tho.

 I did notice earlier that when I switch to single, it is not 
 unmounting some file systems for some reason.  When I try to switch 
 back to default, rc sort of pukes.  If I unmount everything first, it 
 switches cleanly.  I think openrc has some . . . weirdness still.

 You can check out the rc man page for more info.  That help any?

 Dale

 :-)  :-)


Let me add this, if you type rc then hit tab twice, you should see some 
more rc type commands.  You may want to check into some of them too.  
They provide info and do other things, including adding/removing things 
from a runlevel.  I'm assuming you are a bit new to Gentoo.  I may be 
wrong and it wouldn't be the first time either.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I dump use flags?

[JDM]

Ignore the bit about symlinks. Sorry talking garbage. Not sure what I was 
thinking but trying to suggest there is a use flag called symlink. Its not 
related to this. Apologies.

--Original Message--
From: Peter Humphrey
To: Gentoo
ReplyTo: Gentoo
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How do I dump use flags?
Sent: 23 May 2011 10:10

On Friday 20 May 2011 09:17:48 JDM wrote:

 Try eselect profile list which should list available profiles including
 a gnome.
 
 You will need symlinks in USE flags in make.conf to get eselect to work
 and reemerged world.

What do you mean? Symlinks in USE flags? I'm flummoxed.

 Not sure how good profile is but sure some gnome users should be able to

The KDE one works fine for me.

-- 
Rgds
Peter



JDM

Re: [gentoo-user] How do I dump use flags?

[JDM]

There is a profile for gnome I believe.

Try eselect profile list which should list available profiles including a 
gnome.

You will need symlinks in USE flags in make.conf to get eselect to work and 
reemerged world.

Not sure how good profile is but sure some gnome users should be able to help.
--Original Message--
From: Felix Leif Keppmann
To: Gentoo
ReplyTo: Gentoo
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How do I dump use flags?
Sent: 19 May 2011 19:58

Hey Alan,

to get the current USE flags use

emerge --info

and look at USE=...

This does not include local use flags, for those you should check your files in
/etc/portage/package.use or /etc/portage/package.use/


Cheers
Felix Leif


On Thursday 19 May 2011 18:45:41 Alan Mackenzie wrote:
 Hi, Gentoo.
 
 How do I list out a list of current USE flags?
 
 The reason I ask is I'm hypothesising that my recent troubles in Gnome
 may be due to not having a suitable profile.  I would like to select a
 different profile and compare its USE flags with those of my current
 profile.



JDM

[gentoo-user] Framebuffer

[JDM]

Genthinktank,
How can you determine all the available frambuffer resolutions and colour 
depths on a particular host for vesafb. I normally set this through trial and 
error but there must be a command to determine these?
JDM

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken -- egg (NFS tty video) (Fixed!)

[JDM]

That's a clever trick. How do you get emails from emerge? 
JDM

-Original Message-
From: Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org
Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 07:58:34 
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] chicken -- egg (NFS  tty video) (Fixed!)

On 2011-05-15 10:54 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
 Why setup didn't get this right via emerge I have no idea, unless it
 didn't actually do anything toward actually setting Grub up. If so, it
 could be there was already some mismatched Grub code there already from
 a previous use of the sectors there that didn't like the file format.

Felix - you need to start reading the post-install messages when
emerging things.

With Gentoo, a lot of times, you have to actually do things manually
after installing something - as you found with GRUB.

Most people set things up so they get emails of the post install
messages when emerging things, but it is up to you to actually read them
and, when necessary, follow the instructions.

Re: [gentoo-user] chicken -- egg (NFS tty video) (Fixed!)

[JDM]

Thnx, have followed advice. I am impressed.
JDM

-Original Message-
From: Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk
Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 20:57:26 
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] chicken -- egg (NFS  tty video) (Fixed!)

On Mon, 16 May 2011 10:57:14 -0400, Indi wrote:

  Read the settings for PORTAGE_ELOG in man make.conf.

 Or as that man page says, 
 Please see /usr/share/portage/config/make.conf.example
 for elog documentation.

I know that's what the man page currently says, but I expect it will be
updated to include the actual information long before this thread is
deleted from all mail archives, so it seemed prudent to point to the man
page and let the user follow the link :)


-- 
Neil Bothwick

A computer without Microsoft is like a chocolate cake without mustard.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

[JDM]

Up until a few weeks ago I have never used kde opting for xfce and openbox and 
cannot make any comments about kde3 and upgrade. I always preferred the lighter 
desktops. I really like 4.x, it has lots of features and seems to me at least, 
very easy to use (intuitive). So perhaps the kde team will over new fans. Its 
oodles better than any of its contemicropories.
JDM

-Original Message-
From: Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 08:46:32 
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How's the openrc update going for everyone?

Alan McKinnon wrote:
 They can do any damn thing they want to with their code. They also you owe
 support for it in exactly the same amount you paid for it. Which is to say
 nothing.

 It's not a question of should, it's only a question of Dale would prefer it
 if



So, you think most of the KDE users were happy to see support for KDE3 
being dropped, especially considering KDE4 was much less than stable?  
For me and a lot of others, it was worthless at first.  It was good eye 
candy but not functional even for the little I do.

Yea, it is what I want but it is also what MANY others wanted.  Some of 
those people switched to something else or still use KDE3.  It's their 
code, but if people stop using it, what is it really worth?  I'm sure 
KDE wants to gain users not piss them off and make them go away.

For me, if KDE does such a lousy switch over again, I'll be using 
something else.  Given the posts I read where others have already done 
so, I doubt I would be alone.  I'm all for second chances.  We all learn 
the hard way sometimes.  I'm just hoping KDE did.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] bash script error

[JDM]

He

--Original Message--
From: Alex Schuster
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
ReplyTo: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] bash script error
Sent: 9 May 2011 11:36

Kfir Lavi writes:

 On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Xi Shen davidshe...@googlemail.com
 wrote:

  On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote:

   On 2011-05-09, Xi Shen davidshe...@googlemail.com wrote:

   My script looks like:
   
   url=http://mypage;
   curl_opts=-x ''
   curl $url -d \mydata\ $curl_opts
   
   If I execute it, I got an error from curl, saying it cannot resolve
   the proxy ''.
   
   But If I modify the script to:
   
   url=http://mypage;
   curl $url -d \mydata\ -x ''
   
   It works fine.
   
   I guess there's something wrong with the argument expansion. Just do
   not know how to fix it. Please help.

Do as you tried first, but add an eval:
eval curl $url -d \mydata\ $curl_opts

  I have replied you before.
 
 What I have sent you is the solution to your problems.
 Try to run what I told you.
 I ran it successfully on my comp.
 curl_opts=-x 

This gives a command not found error, as bash tries to execute the empty 
command . Are you using another shell?

Wonko



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