Re: [gentoo-user] emerge - Tips and Tricks

2024-09-03 Thread Dale
Arve Barsnes wrote: > On Tue, 3 Sept 2024 at 11:05, Arve Barsnes wrote: >> On Tue, 3 Sept 2024 at 09:49, Dale wrote: >>> If you find a place that explains all those and what they do, please >>> share a link. I'd like to know too. I didn't find anything on the >>> wiki. >> They're in the man pag

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge - Tips and Tricks

2024-09-03 Thread Arve Barsnes
On Tue, 3 Sept 2024 at 11:05, Arve Barsnes wrote: > > On Tue, 3 Sept 2024 at 09:49, Dale wrote: > > If you find a place that explains all those and what they do, please > > share a link. I'd like to know too. I didn't find anything on the > > wiki. > > They're in the man pages. > man 4 make.con

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge - Tips and Tricks

2024-09-03 Thread Arve Barsnes
On Tue, 3 Sept 2024 at 09:49, Dale wrote: > If you find a place that explains all those and what they do, please > share a link. I'd like to know too. I didn't find anything on the > wiki. They're in the man pages. man 4 make.conf https://devmanual.gentoo.org/eclass-reference/make.conf/index.ht

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge - Tips and Tricks

2024-09-03 Thread Dale
ralfconn wrote: > Il 02/09/24 01:56, Dale ha scritto: >> FEATURES="-usersync userpriv usersandbox buildpkg sandbox parallel-fetch >> parallel-install" >> >> >> The ones I care about.  The buildpkg tells it to save binary copies. >> This is a must if done in a chroot and you want to install elsewher

[gentoo-user] emerge keeps installing then uninstalling qtbase, qttools, ...

2024-09-02 Thread Grant Edwards
For the past 4 days or so, every time I do a sync and then 'emerge -auvND world', portage installs the following: qttools qtbase qttranslations xcb-util-cursor Afterwards, when I do 'emerge --depclean', it uninstalls them. Any ideas why? It's getting a little annoying. -- Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge - Tips and Tricks

2024-09-02 Thread ralfconn
Il 02/09/24 01:56, Dale ha scritto: FEATURES="-usersync userpriv usersandbox buildpkg sandbox parallel-fetch parallel-install" The ones I care about.  The buildpkg tells it to save binary copies. This is a must if done in a chroot and you want to install elsewhere as binaries but comes in handy

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge - Tips and Tricks

2024-09-02 Thread ralfconn
Il 02/09/24 00:44, Joe ha scritto: Normally i run emerge -uavDU --with-bdeps=y @world when i don't want a reinstall of everything after a emerge --sync I run emerge -uavDN --with-bdeps=y @world when i want to reinstall or like the manual says if there is a use flag that has been changed by me

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge - Tips and Tricks

2024-09-02 Thread Michael
On Monday, 2 September 2024 07:59:20 BST Wols Lists wrote: > On 02/09/2024 06:11, Dale wrote: > > If you have a laptop where heat is a issue, you may want to do things > > different but if you can, that will give you the most stable system for > > updates. > > Another tip - if you run into any pro

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge - Tips and Tricks

2024-09-02 Thread Dale
Wols Lists wrote: > On 02/09/2024 00:56, Dale wrote: >> Obviously, a news item can change that process.  If there is a news item >> with a different process, follow that for sure.  Following the news item >> to the letter is the best way.  The devs work out all the kinks and bugs >> before they pos

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge - Tips and Tricks

2024-09-01 Thread Wols Lists
On 02/09/2024 06:11, Dale wrote: If you have a laptop where heat is a issue, you may want to do things different but if you can, that will give you the most stable system for updates. Another tip - if you run into any problems, try to emerge @system, not @world. If you know you've successful

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge - Tips and Tricks

2024-09-01 Thread Wols Lists
On 02/09/2024 00:56, Dale wrote: Obviously, a news item can change that process.  If there is a news item with a different process, follow that for sure.  Following the news item to the letter is the best way.  The devs work out all the kinks and bugs before they post the news item. Find the ot

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge - Tips and Tricks

2024-09-01 Thread Dale
Matt Connell wrote: > On Sun, 2024-09-01 at 18:56 -0500, Dale wrote: >> FEATURES="-usersync userpriv usersandbox buildpkg sandbox >> parallel-fetch parallel-install" > No candy? You struck me as a candy guy. > > > I'll admit, I haven't touched that setting in ages.  Likely a decade or more.  I'm

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge - Tips and Tricks

2024-09-01 Thread Dale
Joe wrote: > > > On 9/1/24 16:56, Dale wrote: >> Joe wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> >>> I'm looking for some tips and tricks regarding emerge. I know there is >>> a cheat sheet on what stuff you can do. But i would like emerge >>> exclusively . >>> >>> Normally i run emerge -uavDU --with-bdeps=y @world

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge - Tips and Tricks

2024-09-01 Thread Matt Connell
On Sun, 2024-09-01 at 18:56 -0500, Dale wrote: > FEATURES="-usersync userpriv usersandbox buildpkg sandbox > parallel-fetch parallel-install" No candy? You struck me as a candy guy.

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge - Tips and Tricks

2024-09-01 Thread Joe
On 9/1/24 16:56, Dale wrote: Joe wrote: Hello, I'm looking for some tips and tricks regarding emerge. I know there is a cheat sheet on what stuff you can do. But i would like emerge exclusively . Normally i run emerge -uavDU --with-bdeps=y @world when i don't want a reinstall of everything

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge - Tips and Tricks

2024-09-01 Thread Dale
Joe wrote: > Hello, > > > I'm looking for some tips and tricks regarding emerge. I know there is > a cheat sheet on what stuff you can do. But i would like emerge > exclusively . > > Normally i run emerge -uavDU --with-bdeps=y @world when i don't want a > reinstall of everything after a emerge --sy

[gentoo-user] emerge - Tips and Tricks

2024-09-01 Thread Joe
Hello, I'm looking for some tips and tricks regarding emerge. I know there is a cheat sheet on what stuff you can do. But i would like emerge exclusively . Normally i run emerge -uavDU --with-bdeps=y @world when i don't want a reinstall of everything after a emerge --sync I run emerge -uav

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge notice

2024-07-07 Thread Wols Lists
On 07/07/2024 00:31, Thelma wrote: I have in my make.conf: PORTAGE_ELOG_CLASSES="warn error log" PORTAGE_ELOG_SYSTEM="mail" PORTAGE_ELOG_MAILURI="i...@domain.com /usr/sbin/sendmail" PORTAGE_ELOG_MAILFROM="portage" PORTAGE_ELOG_MAILSUBJECT="package \${PACKAGE} merged on \${HOST} with notice" I

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge notice

2024-07-06 Thread Thelma
On 7/6/24 17:46, Jude DaShiell wrote: you could first pipe portage output to tee perhaps portage.log for a file to hold output then use grep on portage.log to find notifications in context sofollowing lines of notifications would be preserved. I've not used grep with lines of context before yet

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge notice

2024-07-06 Thread Jude DaShiell
you could first pipe portage output to tee perhaps portage.log for a file to hold output then use grep on portage.log to find notifications in context sofollowing lines of notifications would be preserved. I've not used grep with lines of context before yet so don't know how that feature would wor

[gentoo-user] emerge notice

2024-07-06 Thread Thelma
I have in my make.conf: PORTAGE_ELOG_CLASSES="warn error log" PORTAGE_ELOG_SYSTEM="mail" PORTAGE_ELOG_MAILURI="i...@domain.com /usr/sbin/sendmail" PORTAGE_ELOG_MAILFROM="portage" PORTAGE_ELOG_MAILSUBJECT="package \${PACKAGE} merged on \${HOST} with notice" It used to work, but ever since Rogers

[gentoo-user] emerge pattern....

2024-06-06 Thread Alan Grimes
I'm trying to do the steps for the forced profile update even though things had been working perfectly Emerge has been doing really crazy things recently. It will start emerging a thousand packages but not install a single one of them. Then it crashes with a bunch of python garbage

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge-webrsync error

2024-05-22 Thread James Massa
3:18 AM From: "Jude DaShiell" To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] emerge-webrsync error Thanks, if I get to that point I'll remember that number! -- Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please us

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge-webrsync error

2024-05-22 Thread Jude DaShiell
Thanks, if I get to that point I'll remember that number! -- Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." Ed Howdershelt 1940. On Wed, 22 May 2024, Michael wrote: > Or, more appropriately if you do not use a desktop

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge-webrsync error

2024-05-22 Thread Michael
Or, more appropriately if you do not use a desktop then please select profile No. 21: [21] default/linux/amd64/23.0 (stable) On Wednesday, 22 May 2024 16:05:09 BST Michael wrote: > Ah! OK, this probably explains it. > > The latest and now default Gentoo profile is no longer 17.1, but 23.0, >

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge-webrsync error

2024-05-22 Thread Michael
Ah! OK, this probably explains it. The latest and now default Gentoo profile is no longer 17.1, but 23.0, which uses a merged /usr directory structure. Consequently, select profile 23: [23] default/linux/amd64/23.0/desktop (stable) On Wednesday, 22 May 2024 15:53:11 BST Jude DaShiell wrote:

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge-webrsync error

2024-05-22 Thread Jude DaShiell
I used bash but don't know that there's a problem with bash. I burnt the whole system to the ground and still have the verified and validated stage3 file available on my system. Once stage3 is installed was the tee utility included on stage3? If so I can capture what's going on. When I ran emerge

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge-webrsync error

2024-05-22 Thread Michael
You can check while within your chroot, if /dev/fd is a symlink to the directory /proc/self/fd. If the above is correct, then there may be a problem with your shell. Check what you get when you run: # echo $SHELL or, # ps -p $$ Bash should work fine, but from the little I understand about z

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge-webrsync error

2024-05-22 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Wed, 2024-05-22 at 09:40 -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: > Yes, this is during installation. > I did type: > mount --rbind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev > I was outside of chroot at the time but that's all I did with dev before > running emerge-webrsync. > Ok, that was my one guess. I'm out of ideas, sorry

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge-webrsync error

2024-05-22 Thread Jude DaShiell
Yes, this is during installation. I did type: mount --rbind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev I was outside of chroot at the time but that's all I did with dev before running emerge-webrsync. -- Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge-webrsync error

2024-05-22 Thread Michael Orlitzky
Is this during install? Maybe forgot to bind-mount /dev from the real system into your chroot?

[gentoo-user] emerge-webrsync error

2024-05-22 Thread Jude DaShiell
This one is the last two lines of output. Failed to validate a sane '/dev'. bash process substitution doesn't work; this may be an indication of a broken '/dev/fd'. What did I do wrong? -- Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please us

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

2024-03-11 Thread ralfconn
Il 10/03/24 23:44, Walter Dnes ha scritto: On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 08:43:46PM +0100, ralfconn wrote Given the warning message reported by Peter ("Enable USE=clang unless you have a very good reason not to.") That message comes from sys-libs/compiler-rt which is a dedicated runtime lib for c

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

2024-03-10 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 08:43:46PM +0100, ralfconn wrote > Given the warning message reported by Peter ("Enable USE=clang unless > you have a very good reason not to.") That message comes from sys-libs/compiler-rt which is a dedicated runtime lib for clang. It makes sense to use clang if you'r

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

2024-03-10 Thread ralfconn
Il 10/03/24 15:08, Peter Humphrey ha scritto: On Sunday, 10 March 2024 07:17:27 GMT Walter Dnes wrote: So there are at least 2 people who've found out that Firefox can and *MUST* be built with USE="-clang". Ah. I'll change my USE flag straight away. Thanks Walter. This got me wondering,

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

2024-03-10 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday, 10 March 2024 07:17:27 GMT Walter Dnes wrote: > So there are at least 2 people who've found out that Firefox can and > *MUST* be built with USE="-clang". Ah. I'll change my USE flag straight away. Thanks Walter. -- Regards, Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

2024-03-09 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sat, Mar 09, 2024 at 09:16:37PM +, Peter Humphrey wrote > On Saturday, 9 March 2024 19:37:40 GMT Walter Dnes wrote: > > > On Sat, Mar 09, 2024 at 02:45:02PM +, Peter Humphr > > The real question is what else, besides clang and its libraries, > are you building that requires clang? > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

2024-03-09 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday, 9 March 2024 19:37:40 GMT Walter Dnes wrote: > On Sat, Mar 09, 2024 at 02:45:02PM +, Peter Humphr > The real question is what else, besides clang and its libraries, are you > building that requires clang? Firefox. -- Regards, Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

2024-03-09 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sat, Mar 09, 2024 at 02:45:02PM +, Peter Humphrey wrote > >>> Running pre-merge checks for sys-libs/compiler-rt-18.1.0 > * Building using a compiler other than clang may result in broken atomics > * library. Enable USE=clang unless you have a very good reason not to. According to https

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

2024-03-09 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday, 9 March 2024 12:49:33 GMT Walter Dnes wrote: > I have "-clang" in USE in make.conf and no problems resulting from it. > clang seems to be another "solution in search of a problem" along the > lines of rust and cups and systemd and hatbuzz, etc, which keep trying > to worm their way

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

2024-03-09 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sat, Mar 09, 2024 at 08:04:06AM +, Wols Lists wrote > For anyone else who hits this sort of problem, I did an > > USE=-clang emerge --update @world > > (firefox and thunderbird were the only programs I thought this would > touch), and it worked. I have "-clang" in USE in make.conf and

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

2024-03-09 Thread Wols Lists
On 03/03/2024 23:13, Carsten Hauck wrote: So I don't know what's going on, but basically Mozilla won't emerge, and I don't know why ... Cheers, Wol Did the other 19 package emerge OK?  Are the mozilla progs crashing when running, or when emerging?  If emerging, the log is just console output,

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

2024-03-06 Thread Wols Lists
On 04/03/2024 16:20, ralfconn wrote: Il 03/03/24 10:47, Wols Lists ha scritto: I'm getting this output from emerge --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps=y @world Calculating dependencies... done!  * Dependencies could not be completely resolved due to  * the following required packages not be

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

2024-03-04 Thread ralfconn
Il 03/03/24 10:47, Wols Lists ha scritto: I'm getting this output from emerge --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps=y @world Calculating dependencies... done!  * Dependencies could not be completely resolved due to  * the following required packages not being installed:  *  *   >=dev-libs/icu-

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

2024-03-03 Thread Carsten Hauck
On 03/03/24 at 04:18, Jack wrote: On 2024.03.03 15:23, Wol wrote: On 03/03/2024 19:40, Jack wrote: On 2024.03.03 13:54, Wols Lists wrote: On 03/03/2024 09:47, Wols Lists wrote: I'm getting this output from emerge --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps=y @world whoops I mean "emerge --depcle

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

2024-03-03 Thread Jack
On 2024.03.03 15:23, Wol wrote: On 03/03/2024 19:40, Jack wrote: On 2024.03.03 13:54, Wols Lists wrote: On 03/03/2024 09:47, Wols Lists wrote: I'm getting this output from emerge --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps=y @world whoops I mean "emerge --depclean" I'm trying to get a clean syst

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

2024-03-03 Thread Wol
On 03/03/2024 19:40, Jack wrote: On 2024.03.03 13:54, Wols Lists wrote: On 03/03/2024 09:47, Wols Lists wrote: I'm getting this output from emerge --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps=y @world whoops I mean "emerge --depclean" I'm trying to get a clean system, and don't know what exactly i

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

2024-03-03 Thread Jack
On 2024.03.03 13:54, Wols Lists wrote: On 03/03/2024 09:47, Wols Lists wrote: I'm getting this output from emerge --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps=y @world whoops I mean "emerge --depclean" I'm trying to get a clean system, and don't know what exactly is wrong, or what to try ... Ch

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

2024-03-03 Thread Wols Lists
On 03/03/2024 09:47, Wols Lists wrote: I'm getting this output from emerge --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps=y @world whoops I mean "emerge --depclean" I'm trying to get a clean system, and don't know what exactly is wrong, or what to try ... Cheers, Wol

[gentoo-user] Emerge trouble with firefox and thunderbird ...

2024-03-03 Thread Wols Lists
I'm getting this output from emerge --update --newuse --deep --with-bdeps=y @world Calculating dependencies... done! * Dependencies could not be completely resolved due to * the following required packages not being installed: * * >=dev-libs/icu-73.1:0/73.1= pulled in by: * www-clien

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge load again

2024-01-06 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday, 7 January 2024 00:54:12 GMT Adam Carter wrote: > > > So if it's consistently gcc that collapses to two threads, then > > > something (maybe explicit settings, maybe dependencies, maybe yadda > > > yadda) is telling make that only two jobs can run at the same time else > > > they'll trip

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge load again

2024-01-06 Thread Adam Carter
> > > So if it's consistently gcc that collapses to two threads, then > > something (maybe explicit settings, maybe dependencies, maybe yadda > > yadda) is telling make that only two jobs can run at the same time else > > they'll trip over each other. > > > > Could be a dev has hard-coded the "two

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge load again

2024-01-06 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday, 6 January 2024 19:31:59 GMT Wols Lists wrote: > On 06/01/2024 17:52, Peter Humphrey wrote: > >> In other cases, there may be a hundred separate tasks, make fires off a > >> hundred tasks shared amongst all the resource it can find, and sits back > >> and waits. > > > > And that's how

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge load again

2024-01-06 Thread Wols Lists
On 06/01/2024 17:52, Peter Humphrey wrote: In other cases, there may be a hundred separate tasks, make fires off a hundred tasks shared amongst all the resource it can find, and sits back and waits. And that's how the very first installation goes, with single-host distcc. Then, when it gets to

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge load again

2024-01-06 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday, 6 January 2024 15:28:53 GMT Wols Lists wrote: > As far as I'm aware, there's no mystery. On a single machine you get the > exact same thing ... it's all down to parallelism. > > Make asks itself "how many separate tasks can I do at the same time, > which won't interfere with each oth

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge load again

2024-01-06 Thread Wols Lists
On 29/11/2023 12:06, Peter Humphreey wrote: The contribution of distcc isn't clear to me yet, as I said before. Sometimes it's the bee's knees; other times it might just as well not be there. I don't like mysteries... 🙂 As far as I'm aware, there's no mystery. On a single machine you get the e

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge load again

2024-01-06 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday, 6 January 2024 11:44:20 GMT Michael wrote: > On Wednesday, 29 November 2023 12:06:15 GMT Peter Humphreey wrote: > > On Wednesday, 29 November 2023 10:26:36 GMT Michael wrote: > > > Here's my hypothesis explaining your own observation with libreoffice. > > > As > > > a package or more

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge load again

2024-01-06 Thread Michael
On Wednesday, 29 November 2023 12:06:15 GMT Peter Humphreey wrote: > On Wednesday, 29 November 2023 10:26:36 GMT Michael wrote: > > Here's my hypothesis explaining your own observation with libreoffice. As > > a package or more finished emerging, libreoffice's turn comes up. Soon > > libreoffice

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -c being strange

2023-12-30 Thread Jack
On 2023.12.30 18:21, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Saturday, 30 December 2023 21:10:10 GMT Jack wrote: > I have both wine-vanilla 8.0.2 (stable) and 8.1.2 (testing) installed. > "emerge -c wine-vanilla" would remove both of them. "emerge -c > wine-vanilla:8.21" refuses, claiming > > app-emulation/w

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -c being strange

2023-12-30 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday, 30 December 2023 21:10:10 GMT Jack wrote: > I have both wine-vanilla 8.0.2 (stable) and 8.1.2 (testing) installed. > "emerge -c wine-vanilla" would remove both of them. "emerge -c > wine-vanilla:8.21" refuses, claiming > > app-emulation/wine-vanilla-8.21 pulled in by: > virtual/w

[gentoo-user] emerge -c being strange

2023-12-30 Thread Jack
I have both wine-vanilla 8.0.2 (stable) and 8.1.2 (testing) installed.  "emerge -c wine-vanilla" would remove both of them. "emerge -c wine-vanilla:8.21" refuses, claiming app-emulation/wine-vanilla-8.21 pulled in by:    virtual/wine-0-r10 requires app-emulation/wine-vanilla[abi_x86_32,abi_x86

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge consistently 'hangs' on kernel/gentoo-sources

2023-12-17 Thread Remco Rijnders
Michael responded to me off list, and wrote: On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 10:08:49AM -0500, Michael wrote in <675d0538-292f-40de-95c0-446641611...@gmail.com>: I assume you have a script in /etc/portage/env/sys-kernel to build the kernel during normal emerge, this is getting stuck because genkernel

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge consistently 'hangs' on kernel/gentoo-sources

2023-12-17 Thread ralfconn
Il 17/12/23 15:17, Remco Rijnders ha scritto: Hi all, I've tried googling and didn't get very far so am afraid this might not be a common thing... Since a number of months, emerge hangs when doing a upgrade as soon as it gets to the package gentoo-sources: Installing (23 of 27) sys-kernel/g

[gentoo-user] emerge consistently 'hangs' on kernel/gentoo-sources

2023-12-17 Thread Remco Rijnders
Hi all, I've tried googling and didn't get very far so am afraid this might not be a common thing... Since a number of months, emerge hangs when doing a upgrade as soon as it gets to the package gentoo-sources: Installing (23 of 27) sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-6.1.67::gentoo * If you are upgra

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge load again

2023-11-29 Thread Michael
On Wednesday, 29 November 2023 14:12:39 GMT John Blinka wrote: > On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 10:39 AM Peter Humphreey > wrote:l > > > What am I missing? > > I have much less powerful hardware than you but libreoffice (as a > stand-alone build) generates many more threads than 4 on my “cluster”. I’m

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge load again

2023-11-29 Thread John Blinka
On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 10:39 AM Peter Humphreey wrote:l > > What am I missing? I have much less powerful hardware than you but libreoffice (as a stand-alone build) generates many more threads than 4 on my “cluster”. I’m also using distcc. On the main box, I set MAKEOPTS=“-j17 -l6” On the oth

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge load again

2023-11-29 Thread Peter Humphreey
On Wednesday, 29 November 2023 10:26:36 GMT Michael wrote: > Here's my hypothesis explaining your own observation with libreoffice. As a > package or more finished emerging, libreoffice's turn comes up. Soon > libreoffice starts to execute make jobs, but any of the following may > apply: > > 1.

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge load again

2023-11-29 Thread Michael
On Monday, 27 November 2023 15:39:33 GMT Peter Humphreey wrote: > Hello list, > > I still can't see how portage limits the load. Today I'm emerging > libreoffice, and it's spending almost the whole time working with 4 CPU > threads. But: > > $ grep -e '\-j' -e distcc /etc/portage/make.conf > EMER

[gentoo-user] Emerge load again

2023-11-27 Thread Peter Humphreey
Hello list, I still can't see how portage limits the load. Today I'm emerging libreoffice, and it's spending almost the whole time working with 4 CPU threads. But: $ grep -e '\-j' -e distcc /etc/portage/make.conf EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--jobs=18 --load-average=30 --backtrack=200 -- autounmask=n --

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge -K ignoring new packages

2023-11-21 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday, 21 November 2023 08:24:31 GMT Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 21 Nov 2023 03:24:20 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > Default location for binary packages is /var/cache/binpkgs/ > > > > Oh? When did that change? > > It may not have on your system. To check the location, run > > portag

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge -K ignoring new packages

2023-11-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 21 Nov 2023 03:24:20 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Default location for binary packages is /var/cache/binpkgs/ > > Oh? When did that change? It may not have on your system. To check the location, run portageq pkgdir -- Neil Bothwick pgpvxJd2Rwpxc.pgp Description: OpenPGP digita

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge -K ignoring new packages

2023-11-20 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday, 20 November 2023 17:12:04 GMT Vitaliy Perekhovy wrote: > On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 05:07:45PM +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Hello list, > > > > Now that I have my NFS set up (with help - thanks) the next problem is > > that, having new packages built by my workstation over NFS, emerge

RE: [gentoo-user] Emerge -K ignoring new packages

2023-11-20 Thread Laurence Perkins
> -Original Message- > From: Wols Lists > Sent: Monday, November 20, 2023 9:46 AM > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge -K ignoring new packages > > On 20/11/2023 17:12, Vitaliy Perekhovy wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 20, 2023

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge -K ignoring new packages

2023-11-20 Thread Wols Lists
On 20/11/2023 17:12, Vitaliy Perekhovy wrote: On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 05:07:45PM +, Peter Humphrey wrote: Hello list, Now that I have my NFS set up (with help - thanks) the next problem is that, having new packages built by my workstation over NFS, emerge on the tiny box is ignoring all tho

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge -K ignoring new packages

2023-11-20 Thread Vitaliy Perekhovy
On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 05:07:45PM +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > Hello list, > > Now that I have my NFS set up (with help - thanks) the next problem is that, > having new packages built by my workstation over NFS, emerge on the tiny box > is ignoring all those new packages. And yes, I have chec

[gentoo-user] Emerge -K ignoring new packages

2023-11-20 Thread Peter Humphrey
Hello list, Now that I have my NFS set up (with help - thanks) the next problem is that, having new packages built by my workstation over NFS, emerge on the tiny box is ignoring all those new packages. And yes, I have checked that they do exist, and in the right place: /var/cache/packages/ . T

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge conflict. Need help. ffmpeg, kpipewire, handbrake, ffmpegthumbnailer and others.

2023-06-05 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 4 Jun 2023 22:21:54 +0200, Arve Barsnes wrote: > > Doing my updates, most things updated but some still have conflicts. > > Emerge is trying to tell me but I use Konsole and I think it messes up > > the ^ bit and points to the wrong thing. I'm thinking this is a > > USE flag problem b

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge conflict. Need help. ffmpeg, kpipewire, handbrake, ffmpegthumbnailer and others.

2023-06-04 Thread Dale
Jack wrote: > On 2023.06.04 17:22, Dale wrote: >> Jack wrote: >> > On 2023.06.04 15:56, Dale wrote: >> > >> >> Doing my updates, most things updated but some still have conflicts.  >> >> Emerge is trying to tell me but I use Konsole and I think it messes >> >> up the ^ bit and points to the wro

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge conflict. Need help. ffmpeg, kpipewire, handbrake, ffmpegthumbnailer and others.

2023-06-04 Thread Jack
On 2023.06.04 17:22, Dale wrote: Jack wrote: > On 2023.06.04 15:56, Dale wrote: > >> Doing my updates, most things updated but some still have conflicts.  >> Emerge is trying to tell me but I use Konsole and I think it messes >> up the ^ bit and points to the wrong thing. > I suspect the ^

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge conflict. Need help. ffmpeg, kpipewire, handbrake, ffmpegthumbnailer and others.

2023-06-04 Thread Dale
Jack wrote: > On 2023.06.04 15:56, Dale wrote: > >> Doing my updates, most things updated but some still have conflicts.  >> Emerge is trying to tell me but I use Konsole and I think it messes >> up the ^ bit and points to the wrong thing. > I suspect the ^ assumes a fixed width font. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge conflict. Need help. ffmpeg, kpipewire, handbrake, ffmpegthumbnailer and others.

2023-06-04 Thread Dale
Arve Barsnes wrote: > On Sun, 4 Jun 2023 at 21:56, Dale wrote: >> Howdy, >> >> Doing my updates, most things updated but some still have conflicts. >> Emerge is trying to tell me but I use Konsole and I think it messes up >> the ^ bit and points to the wrong thing. I'm thinking this is a USE

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge conflict. Need help. ffmpeg, kpipewire, handbrake, ffmpegthumbnailer and others.

2023-06-04 Thread Jack
On 2023.06.04 15:56, Dale wrote: Doing my updates, most things updated but some still have conflicts.  Emerge is trying to tell me but I use Konsole and I think it messes up the ^ bit and points to the wrong thing. I suspect the ^ assumes a fixed width font.

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge conflict. Need help. ffmpeg, kpipewire, handbrake, ffmpegthumbnailer and others.

2023-06-04 Thread Arve Barsnes
On Sun, 4 Jun 2023 at 21:56, Dale wrote: > > Howdy, > > Doing my updates, most things updated but some still have conflicts. > Emerge is trying to tell me but I use Konsole and I think it messes up > the ^ bit and points to the wrong thing. I'm thinking this is a USE > flag problem but I can'

[gentoo-user] emerge conflict. Need help. ffmpeg, kpipewire, handbrake, ffmpegthumbnailer and others.

2023-06-04 Thread Dale
Howdy, Doing my updates, most things updated but some still have conflicts.  Emerge is trying to tell me but I use Konsole and I think it messes up the ^ bit and points to the wrong thing.  I'm thinking this is a USE flag problem but I can't tell for sure.  Anyone else recognize this and make

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --sync fails with a python error

2023-05-15 Thread Dan Johansson
On 15.05.23 16:41, Matt Connell wrote: On Mon, 2023-05-15 at 16:24 +0200, Dan Johansson wrote: RuntimeError: OpenPGP signature not found on Manifest It sounds like your sync is hitting a mirror that is currently broken. Are you using a defined mirror list or letting it auto-select? As far

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --sync fails with a python error

2023-05-15 Thread Matt Connell
On Mon, 2023-05-15 at 16:24 +0200, Dan Johansson wrote: > RuntimeError: OpenPGP signature not found on Manifest It sounds like your sync is hitting a mirror that is currently broken. Are you using a defined mirror list or letting it auto-select?

[gentoo-user] emerge --sync fails with a python error

2023-05-15 Thread Dan Johansson
Since at least my "emerge --sync" fails with the following message: --8<-- Total bytes received: 55.60M sent 456.87K bytes received 55.60M bytes 4.48M bytes/sec total size is 188.36M speedup is 3.36

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -U or emerge -N

2023-04-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 10:18:13 -0500, Dale wrote: > >> When I say deeper, I mean it will find more packages that may not be > >> found otherwise. > > And -e finds even more - but more is not always better. -U was > > introduced because -N was causing too many packages to be rebuilt > > unnecessari

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -U or emerge -N

2023-04-11 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 06:30:47 -0500, Dale wrote: > >>> -U: if a package doesn't need to be updated on your system today, >>> it'll be left until it does. >>> >>> -N: if any USE flag at all has changed in a package, it'll be >>> recompiled, whether it needs to be on your system

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -U or emerge -N

2023-04-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 06:30:47 -0500, Dale wrote: > > -U: if a package doesn't need to be updated on your system today, > > it'll be left until it does. > > > > -N: if any USE flag at all has changed in a package, it'll be > > recompiled, whether it needs to be on your system or not. > > > > > W

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -U or emerge -N

2023-04-11 Thread Dr Rainer Woitok
Neil, On Tuesday, 2023-04-11 08:19:10 +0100, you wrote: > ... > So now we kn ow, ChatGPT is case-insensitive, it gave you answers for -u > and -n. You aren't really flabbergasted, are you? After all Microsoft is known for having a particularly soft spot for case-insensitiveness :-) Sincerely,

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -U or emerge -N

2023-04-11 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Tuesday, 11 April 2023 11:33:38 BST Dale wrote: > >> The info from the man page is correct. > Of course it is. There'd be uproar if it weren't. > >> They do two different things. The -N will mean more recompiles of packages >> but it also means that when a USE flag change

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -U or emerge -N

2023-04-11 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday, 11 April 2023 11:33:38 BST Dale wrote: > The info from the man page is correct. Of course it is. There'd be uproar if it weren't. > They do two different things. The -N will mean more recompiles of packages > but it also means that when a USE flag change is made, it also changes any

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -U or emerge -N

2023-04-11 Thread Dale
jul...@jroy.ca wrote: > On Mon, 2023-04-10 at 22:10 -0600, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: >> On 4/10/23 18:53, Dale wrote: >> >> >> I've asked ChatGPT for explanation and here is what I got: >> >> Here are the differences between emerge -U and emerge -N: >> >> emerge -U: This option upgrades the spe

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -U or emerge -N

2023-04-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 10 Apr 2023 22:10:32 -0600, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > !'ve asked ChatGPT for explanation and here is what I got: > > Here are the differences between emerge -U and emerge -N: > > emerge -U: This option upgrades the specified package(s) to the latest > available version. It will fir

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -U or emerge -N

2023-04-10 Thread jul...@jroy.ca
On Mon, 2023-04-10 at 22:10 -0600, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > On 4/10/23 18:53, Dale wrote: > > > I've asked ChatGPT for explanation and here is what I got: > > Here are the differences between emerge -U and emerge -N: > > emerge -U: This option upgrades the specified package(s) to the > l

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -U or emerge -N

2023-04-10 Thread thelma
On 4/10/23 18:53, Dale wrote: the...@sys-concept.com wrote: Is it better to us emerge -U or emerge -N I've always done -N but it didn't go very smoothly it seems to me -U might be better option but it takes longer. Right now I'm doing -U and it is compiling 549-packages. . I always do both

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -U or emerge -N

2023-04-10 Thread Dale
the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > Is it better to us emerge -U or emerge -N > > I've always done -N but it didn't go very smoothly it seems to me -U > might be better option but it takes longer. > Right now I'm doing -U and it is compiling 549-packages. > > . > I always do both except I use the low

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -U or emerge -N

2023-04-10 Thread thelma
On 4/10/23 11:11, hitachi303 wrote: Am 10.04.23 um 18:44 schrieb the...@sys-concept.com: Is it better to us emerge -U or emerge -N I've always done -N but it didn't go very smoothly it seems to me -U might be better option but it takes longer. Right now I'm doing -U and it is compiling 549-pac

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -U or emerge -N

2023-04-10 Thread hitachi303
Am 10.04.23 um 18:44 schrieb the...@sys-concept.com: Is it better to us emerge -U or emerge -N I've always done -N but it didn't go very smoothly it seems to me -U might be better option but it takes longer. Right now I'm doing -U and it is compiling 549-packages. Just out of curiosity: Is

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