Re: [gentoo-user] Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function

2015-07-22 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 22 Jul 2015 01:32:10 Dale wrote: Mick wrote: On Tuesday 21 Jul 2015 18:35:27 Dale wrote: From what I recall about Lasspass, it does encrypt the data locally then uploads it. I recall reading that if you lose your master password, they can't get in it either. All they get

Re: [gentoo-user] Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function

2015-07-22 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: On Wednesday 22 Jul 2015 01:32:10 Dale wrote: Mick wrote: On Tuesday 21 Jul 2015 18:35:27 Dale wrote: From what I recall about Lasspass, it does encrypt the data locally then uploads it. I recall reading that if you lose your master password, they can't get in it either. All

Re: [gentoo-user] Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function

2015-07-22 Thread covici
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 22:05:57 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Have you tried KeePass? It doe what you are doing but with a decent interface and the ability to type the details into web pages for you. But does it store the data on

Re: [gentoo-user] Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function

2015-07-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 13:00:10 +1000, wraeth wrote: KeePass is Qt based and has a client at least for Linux and Windows, as well as an Android app (DroidPass). There are several Android clients, I use Keepass2Android. -- Neil Bothwick A pessimist complains about the noise when opportunity

Re: [gentoo-user] Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function

2015-07-22 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 22:05:57 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Have you tried KeePass? It doe what you are doing but with a decent interface and the ability to type the details into web pages for you. But does it store the data on someone's server? Where they could have a data

Re: [gentoo-user] Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function

2015-07-22 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 22 Jul 2015 19:43:43 Dale wrote: So, don't use something that is within your browser but then go and type that password . . . in your browser? Yea, that'll work. Heck, if I really wanted something that secure, I'd unplug the ethernet cable and turn off my modem. Then I might

Re: [gentoo-user] Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function

2015-07-22 Thread wraeth
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 04:15:30PM -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 22:05:57 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Have you tried KeePass? It doe what you are doing but with a decent interface and the ability to type the

Re: [gentoo-user] Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function

2015-07-22 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: On Wednesday 22 Jul 2015 19:43:43 Dale wrote: So, don't use something that is within your browser but then go and type that password . . . in your browser? Yea, that'll work. Heck, if I really wanted something that secure, I'd unplug the ethernet cable and turn off my modem.

Re: [gentoo-user] Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function

2015-07-21 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 12:35:27 -0500, Dale wrote: From what I recall about Lasspass, it does encrypt the data locally then uploads it. I recall reading that if you lose your master password, they can't get in it either. All they get is encrypted data. Unless the source

Re: [gentoo-user] Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function

2015-07-21 Thread wraeth
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 10:05:57PM -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: Have you tried KeePass? It doe what you are doing but with a decent interface and the ability to type the details into web pages for you. But does it store the data on

Re: [gentoo-user] Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function

2015-07-21 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: On Tuesday 21 Jul 2015 02:40:54 Dale wrote: I use the random generator too. Some older sites, forums or something that isn't really sensitive, may still have my old passwords but sites like banking and such each have their own random generated one. I also try to generate the

Re: [gentoo-user] Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function

2015-07-21 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 21.07.2015 um 01:18 schrieb walt: I suspect most people don't even know firefox has a ProfileManager, but I'm here to warn you not to use it. It just cost me years of bookmarks and saved passwords. For testing purposes I invoked firefox-bin with the -ProfileManager flag (don't do this,

Re: [gentoo-user] Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function

2015-07-21 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: On Tuesday 21 Jul 2015 18:35:27 Dale wrote: Mick wrote: On Tuesday 21 Jul 2015 02:40:54 Dale wrote: I use the random generator too. Some older sites, forums or something that isn't really sensitive, may still have my old passwords but sites like banking and such each have their

Re: [gentoo-user] Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function

2015-07-21 Thread covici
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 16:31:52 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: I have owncloud working just fine, although I don't use it for passwords -- for those I just have a pgp key and individual files and I have an iphone app which can decrypt them.

Re: [gentoo-user] Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function

2015-07-21 Thread Chris Spackman
On 2015/07/21 at 02:59pm, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 21:09:38 +1000, wraeth wrote: Have you tried Syncthing - http://syncthing.net/ ? No I haven't, but one of the main reasons for that is because I mostly bypassed online (read: not controlled by myself) services for any

Re: [gentoo-user] Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function

2015-07-21 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 21 Jul 2015 18:35:27 Dale wrote: Mick wrote: On Tuesday 21 Jul 2015 02:40:54 Dale wrote: I use the random generator too. Some older sites, forums or something that isn't really sensitive, may still have my old passwords but sites like banking and such each have their own

Re: [gentoo-user] Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function

2015-07-21 Thread covici
Chris Spackman ch...@osugisakae.com wrote: On 2015/07/21 at 02:59pm, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 21:09:38 +1000, wraeth wrote: Have you tried Syncthing - http://syncthing.net/ ? No I haven't, but one of the main reasons for that is because I mostly bypassed online

Re: [gentoo-user] Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function

2015-07-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 16:31:52 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: I have owncloud working just fine, although I don't use it for passwords -- for those I just have a pgp key and individual files and I have an iphone app which can decrypt them. Have you tried KeePass? It doe what you are doing

Re: [gentoo-user] Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function

2015-07-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 12:35:27 -0500, Dale wrote: From what I recall about Lasspass, it does encrypt the data locally then uploads it. I recall reading that if you lose your master password, they can't get in it either. All they get is encrypted data. Unless the source is available, there is

Re: [gentoo-user] Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function

2015-07-21 Thread wraeth
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 10:38:50AM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: Something like KeePass. It has Linux, Windows and Android clients and because the file is encrypted locally, you can store it in a cloud service, although I now use Syncthing to keep it on all my devices, now that my life is free

Re: [gentoo-user] Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function

2015-07-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 20:27:32 +1000, wraeth wrote: Something like KeePass. It has Linux, Windows and Android clients and because the file is encrypted locally, you can store it in a cloud service, although I now use Syncthing to keep it on all my devices, now that my life is free of

Re: [gentoo-user] Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function

2015-07-21 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 21 Jul 2015 02:40:54 Dale wrote: Rich Freeman wrote: On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 8:20 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: This wouldn't help with some of the things you lost but it will with your passwords at least. For passwords, this will help and you can use it somewhere else

Re: [gentoo-user] Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function

2015-07-21 Thread wraeth
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 11:41:03AM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 20:27:32 +1000, wraeth wrote: Something like KeePass. It has Linux, Windows and Android clients and because the file is encrypted locally, you can store it in a cloud service, although I now use

Re: [gentoo-user] Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function

2015-07-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 08:53:42 +0100, Mick wrote: A better, as in more secure, solution should involve local encryption and IMHO local air-gapped storage. A USB key will do nicely and you can have a second USB key stored in your brother's premises, for disaster recovery scenarios. Something

Re: [gentoo-user] Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function

2015-07-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 21:09:38 +1000, wraeth wrote: Have you tried Syncthing - http://syncthing.net/ ? I only discovered it recently and it is a really nice syncing solution if you just want to keep files available in multiple locations without the complexity of ownCloud or the limitations

Re: [gentoo-user] Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function

2015-07-20 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 8:20 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: This wouldn't help with some of the things you lost but it will with your passwords at least. For passwords, this will help and you can use it somewhere else as well since it is portable, sort of.

Re: [gentoo-user] Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function

2015-07-20 Thread Jc GarcĂ­a
2015-07-20 17:18 GMT-06:00 walt w41...@gmail.com: Lesson learned: if you need to start firefox with a fresh profile, just move your ~/.mozilla directory out of the way and let firefox create a new one from scratch. Using firefox sync is also an option, and If you don't want Mozilla having

Re: [gentoo-user] Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function

2015-07-20 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 8:20 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: This wouldn't help with some of the things you lost but it will with your passwords at least. For passwords, this will help and you can use it somewhere else as well since it is portable, sort of. https://lastpass.com/ ++

Re: [gentoo-user] Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function

2015-07-20 Thread wabenbau
walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: I suspect most people don't even know firefox has a ProfileManager, but I'm here to warn you not to use it. It just cost me years of bookmarks and saved passwords. For testing purposes I invoked firefox-bin with the -ProfileManager flag (don't do this, it's

Re: [gentoo-user] Catastrophic bug in the firefox 'ProfileManager' function

2015-07-20 Thread Dale
walt wrote: I suspect most people don't even know firefox has a ProfileManager, but I'm here to warn you not to use it. It just cost me years of bookmarks and saved passwords. For testing purposes I invoked firefox-bin with the -ProfileManager flag (don't do this, it's broken!) and created