Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing with new kernel

2009-09-21 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Montag, 21. September 2009 schrieb James:

 When I boot a newer kernel, either kernel-2.6.29-gentoo-r5
 or kernel-2.6.30-gentoo-r4 my kde [4] menu bar across the bottom
 of the screen is gone.  I still get a few kconsole sessions
 that always start upon booting up, but all of the other kde
 tools seem to be missing or hidden.

I've had a similar issue when switching logins between KDE 4 and 3 regularly - 
The menu went missing in 3 from time to time. As solution I was told to run 
kbuildsycoca. In your case (for KDE4) you need to run kbuildsycoca4.
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing with new kernel

2009-09-21 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Montag 21 September 2009, James wrote:

 
 any ideas?

maybe you forgot 
CONFIG_UNIX98_PTYS=y

?

but you should really start with a diff of  the configs.



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing: not solved !

2009-06-14 Thread Tal2baro

I also had a problem with the KDE menu missing after the upgrade to 3.5.10
I've investigated starting from the message form kbuildsycoca and found a
solution to get the KDE menu to be build. I found that in ~/.config/menus/
nothing was there as expected by kbuildsyscoca
So I did:

Copy /usr/kde/3.5/etc/xdg/menus/ content to ~/.config/menus/
Run from a terminal : kbuildsycoca --noincremental

I'm not sure it's the real problem but at least it fixed the problem even
after a reboot.
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing: not solved !

2009-06-14 Thread Philip Webb
090614 Tal2baro wrote:
 I also had a problem with the KDE menu missing after the upgrade to 3.5.10
 I've investigated starting from the message from  kbuildsycoca
  found there was nothing in  ~/.config/menus/  expected by kbuildsyscoca
 So I copied  /usr/kde/3.5/etc/xdg/menus/  content to  ~/.config/menus/
  ran  'kbuildsycoca --noincremental'
 at least it fixed the problem even after a reboot.

Thanks ! -- I did the same:
the Krusader 'open with' has been restored  it survived a reboot !

There mb some obscure bug remaining, but if it works, don't fiddle with it !

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing: not solved !

2009-06-13 Thread Mick
On Saturday 13 June 2009, Philip Webb wrote:
 Yet another step reveals the locus of the problem here at least:
 (11) try to run 'klauncher' from CLI : must be started by Kdeinit;
 (12) restart in KDE, fix Krusader + Apwal ;
 (13) reboot  restart FB but without 'kdeinit ' in  ~/.xinitrc :
  Krusader 'open with' ok !

 So my problem seems to lie in starting 'kdeinit' without the KDE desktop.
 It will take another couple of reboots (tomorrow) to confirm this.
 Mick mb doing things a bit differently  his problem mb elsewhere.

I have rebooted a number of times (it's a laptop), always in xdm/fluxbox, but 
my Konqueror menus/kcontrol work fine now.  I do not have kdeinit in the 
fluxbox startup file.  Once I have booted up I will typically run {kgpg  
kmail} to check my mail and occasionally launch konqueror with {kfmclient 
openProfile webbrowsing}.  By that stage kdeinit will be running (when things 
are normal):

 6973 ?S  0:00 kgpg
 6976 ?Ss 0:00 kdeinit Running...  
 6982 ?S  0:00  \_ klauncher [kdeinit] --new-startup   
 7030 ?S  0:01  \_ kio_imap4 [kdeinit] imap /tmp/ksocket-michael/  
20306 ?S  0:00  \_ kio_file [kdeinit] file /tmp/ksocket-michael/k  
21164 ?S  0:00  \_ kio_smtp [kdeinit] smtp /tmp/ksocket-michael/k  
 6980 ?S  0:00 dcopserver [kdeinit] --nosid --suicide  
 6984 ?S  0:01 kded [kdeinit] --new-startup
 6986 ?S  0:00 /usr/libexec/gam_server
 7018 ?Sl 0:29 kmail
20414 ?S  0:00  \_ aspell -a -S -B -Tutf8 --encoding=utf-8

When the 'lost menus' problem is there kfmclient will not run and konqueror 
will fail to launch.  Last time the menus were gone I realised that this was 
the case when I clicked on a link to open an attachment from within kmail - 
the save as/open with popup was void of any applications.  Unfortunately, I 
did not check at that time if kdeinit was running, but I would assume that it 
was otherwise would kde applications be able to run?
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing: not solved !

2009-06-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 13 June 2009 11:33:56 Mick wrote:
 On Saturday 13 June 2009, Philip Webb wrote:
  Yet another step reveals the locus of the problem here at least:
  (11) try to run 'klauncher' from CLI : must be started by Kdeinit;
  (12) restart in KDE, fix Krusader + Apwal ;
  (13) reboot  restart FB but without 'kdeinit ' in  ~/.xinitrc :
   Krusader 'open with' ok !
 
  So my problem seems to lie in starting 'kdeinit' without the KDE desktop.
  It will take another couple of reboots (tomorrow) to confirm this.
  Mick mb doing things a bit differently  his problem mb elsewhere.

 I have rebooted a number of times (it's a laptop), always in xdm/fluxbox,
 but my Konqueror menus/kcontrol work fine now.  I do not have kdeinit in
 the fluxbox startup file.  Once I have booted up I will typically run {kgpg
  kmail} to check my mail and occasionally launch konqueror with
 {kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing}.  By that stage kdeinit will be running
 (when things are normal):

On the odd occasion when I run e17 these days, I run kcminit as step 1 after 
logging in.

I have no idea how this actually works, but it fixes odd errors like fonts, 
themes and IIRC once a weird menu problem (the details I forget).

Worth a try.

-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing: not solved !

2009-06-13 Thread Mick
On Saturday 13 June 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On Saturday 13 June 2009 11:33:56 Mick wrote:
  On Saturday 13 June 2009, Philip Webb wrote:
   Yet another step reveals the locus of the problem here at least:
   (11) try to run 'klauncher' from CLI : must be started by Kdeinit;
   (12) restart in KDE, fix Krusader + Apwal ;
   (13) reboot  restart FB but without 'kdeinit ' in  ~/.xinitrc :
Krusader 'open with' ok !
  
   So my problem seems to lie in starting 'kdeinit' without the KDE
   desktop. It will take another couple of reboots (tomorrow) to confirm
   this. Mick mb doing things a bit differently  his problem mb
   elsewhere.
 
  I have rebooted a number of times (it's a laptop), always in xdm/fluxbox,
  but my Konqueror menus/kcontrol work fine now.  I do not have kdeinit in
  the fluxbox startup file.  Once I have booted up I will typically run
  {kgpg  kmail} to check my mail and occasionally launch konqueror with
  {kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing}.  By that stage kdeinit will be
  running (when things are normal):

 On the odd occasion when I run e17 these days, I run kcminit as step 1
 after logging in.

 I have no idea how this actually works, but it fixes odd errors like fonts,
 themes and IIRC once a weird menu problem (the details I forget).

 Worth a try.

Thanks Alan, I will remember to try this next time the menus go sideways for 
me.

I can't recall if I mentioned it that running kbuildsycoca --noincremental 
only produced a result when I was logged in KDE/kdm *and* ran the command in 
konsole, but not in aterm ...
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing: not solved !

2009-06-13 Thread Philip Webb
090613 Mick wrote:
 On Saturday 13 June 2009, Philip Webb wrote:
 Yet another step reveals the locus of the problem here at least:
 (11) try to run 'klauncher' from CLI : must be started by Kdeinit;
 (12) restart in KDE, fix Krusader + Apwal ;
 (13) reboot  restart FB but without 'kdeinit ' in  ~/.xinitrc :
  Krusader 'open with' ok !
 So my problem seems to lie in starting 'kdeinit' without the KDE desktop.
 It will take another couple of reboots (tomorrow) to confirm this.
 Mick mb doing things a bit differently  his problem mb elsewhere.
 I have rebooted a number of times (it's a laptop), always in xdm/fluxbox,
 but my Konqueror menus/kcontrol work fine now.
 I do not have kdeinit in the fluxbox startup file.

That means your problem is/was something else.
After a long sleep, I restarted the machine  Krusader's 'open with' is ok.
It looks as if the problem here is that if 'kdeinit' is started
without an existing desktop to relate to, some connection is not made.
As it makes no noticeable difference to start-up times,
I can easily do without having 'kdeinit ' in  ~/.xinitrc .

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing: not solved !

2009-06-13 Thread Philip Webb
090613 Philip Webb wrote:
 It looks as if the problem here is that if 'kdeinit' is started
 without an existing desktop to relate to, some connection is not made.

I've investigated further  can't find which file Krusader uses
to remember its file associations.  However, I did find the changelog
for 'kdelibs-3.5.10-r2', which says move kdeglobals to kdelibs
for non-KDE users using KDE apps, which looks like the crucial change.
Even so, there's nothing relevant in  ~/.kde3.5/share/config/kdeglobals .

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing: not solved !

2009-06-12 Thread Mick
On Thursday 11 June 2009, Philip Webb wrote:
 090611 Philip Webb wrote:
  You can test this by restoring the settings in KDE,
  then without rebooting check they're there in Fluxbox,
  then reboot  see what has happened, presumably they wb lost again.

 Actually, there are  2  possibilities, at user login  at reboot,
 so both need checking separately.

I've rebooted twice with same kernel (gentoo-2.6.29-r5) and the settings seem 
to have stuck.  Not sure what I've done differently before to cause the 
settings to be lost.

Its worth mentioning that I have experienced a few kernel oops with this 
kernel and xorg, which I have not yet resolved and I am not sure if an 
ungraceful shutdown might have contributed to the kde settings being lost.  
Will keep an eye on it.
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing: not solved !

2009-06-12 Thread Philip Webb
090612 Mick wrote:
 I've rebooted twice with same kernel (gentoo-2.6.29-r5)
 and the settings seem to have stuck.
 Not sure what I've done differently before to cause the settings to be lost.

No changes of kernel here (same as yours).

I've experimented with the same experience as you :
(1) (with damaged Krusader 'open with' in Fluxbox): restart in KDE:
won't start KDE Control Centre; restore 'open with' via Krusader: ok;
(2) restart KDE: ok; (3) restart FB: Krusader 'open with' ok,
incl use of Kview for JPG, which I didn't tell it to do under (1) !
(4) restart KDE: ok; (5) logout user, login, restart KDE: ok, restart FB: ok;
(6) reboot, restart KDE: ok !  (7) restart FB: Krusader 'open with' ok !

So it's not something happening in the login or boot processes as such.

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing: not solved !

2009-06-12 Thread Philip Webb
Further steps reveal something re the problem:
(8) reboot: restart KDE: ok; (9) restart FB: Krusader 'open with' ok
(yes, these repeat steps 6-7 in the previous msg);
(10) reboot: restart FB : try Krusader: Cannot talk to klauncher !
 (click to close msg box) when Krusader starts, 'open with' fails !

So something is being started by the KDE desktop which persists for FB,
but if I start FB straight after rebooting, it doesn't get started
 there's a failure of communication somewhere which affects Krusader.

Does anyone have any suggestions ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing: not solved !

2009-06-12 Thread Philip Webb
Yet another step reveals the locus of the problem here at least:
(11) try to run 'klauncher' from CLI : must be started by Kdeinit;
(12) restart in KDE, fix Krusader + Apwal ;
(13) reboot  restart FB but without 'kdeinit ' in  ~/.xinitrc :
 Krusader 'open with' ok !

So my problem seems to lie in starting 'kdeinit' without the KDE desktop.
It will take another couple of reboots (tomorrow) to confirm this.
Mick mb doing things a bit differently  his problem mb elsewhere.

-- 
,,
SUPPORT ___//___,   Philip Webb
ELECTRIC   /] [] [] [] [] []|   Cities Centre, University of Toronto
TRANSIT`-O--O---'   purslowatchassdotutorontodotca




Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing: solved

2009-06-11 Thread Mick
2009/6/9 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com:
 2009/6/9 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com:
 2009/6/9 Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net:

 After the usual night's sleep to clear the cerebral tmp files
 I thought of starting the new day in KDE to try fixing things there.
 I swapped to my KDE version of  ~/.xinitrc   then did 'startx'
  yes the desktop menus  the panel menu had vanished.
 Then I started Krusader, got the 'open with' box for a text file
  told it to open the file with Leafpad: it did some updating  obeyed.
 After that, the other default 'open with' apps worked as before
  the KDE menus had been restored.  To get Apwal back with L-mouse
 I had to use the KDE Control Centre 'desktop behaviour'  re-apply it.

 So everything is back to normal  Krusader behaves properly on Fluxbox too.

 Thanks Phillip.

 Did you get any apps in the 'Open With' menu list?  Mine is empty.  To
 get any application to open a file I have to type it manually (or
 choose one from the cached drop down entries in the Open With panel).
 I ran kate %U, but nothing much happened.  :(

 Will try to repeat all this in a KDE session just in case.

 Meanwhile, what does your /home/user/.config/menus/applications.menu
 look like.  Mine is empty and comes up with the error shown below:

 $ kbuildsycoca --menutest
 Warning: kbuildsycoca is unable to register with DCOP.
 kbuildsycoca running...
 kbuildsycoca running...
 Reusing existing ksycoca
 kbuildsycoca: WARNING: Parse error in
 /home/michael/.config/menus/applications.menu, line 1, col 1:
 unexpected end of file

 Fixed it!

 I had to delete /home/michael/.config/menus/applications.menu, then
 change my setup to login using kdm/KDE instead xdm/fluxbox and this
 time kbuildsycoca  worked.  Phew!  All my menus are back, Kleopatra
 works fine, and kcontrol has a list on the LH side.  Getting back to
 fluxbox works as normal again.

 Thanks for the pointer!  :)

 It seems that the elog message was implying that one must be using KDE
 as a DE rather than individual applications.

Blast!  I spoke too soon.

This morning same story ... Menus are not present and running

$ kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing   kbuildsycoca running...
kfmclient: ERROR: Couldn't start konqueror from konqueror.desktop:
Could not find service 'konqueror.desktop'.

brings up the same error.  :(

There must be a more intelligent fix to this than me booting into KDE
every time I want to use a KDE application ?

What's up with your KDE menu Phillip?  Were you able to make the changes stick?
-- 
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Mick



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing: not solved !

2009-06-11 Thread Philip Webb
090611 Mick wrote:
 I spoke too soon.
 This morning same story ... Menus are not present and running
 There must be a more intelligent fix to this than me booting into KDE
 every time I want to use a KDE application ?
 What's up with your KDE menu Philip?
 Were you able to make the changes stick?

I checked Krusader on Fluxbox  no the changes haven't stuck !
At least we're tracking the beast down, but haven't cornered it yet.
Something must be getting changed when we reboot.

You can test this by restoring the settings in KDE,
then without rebooting check they're there in Fluxbox,
then reboot  see what has happened, presumably they wb lost again.

After that has been confirmed, we can look into the cause more closely.

Anyone else have suggestions ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing: not solved !

2009-06-11 Thread Philip Webb
090611 Philip Webb wrote:
 You can test this by restoring the settings in KDE,
 then without rebooting check they're there in Fluxbox,
 then reboot  see what has happened, presumably they wb lost again.

Actually, there are  2  possibilities, at user login  at reboot,
so both need checking separately.

-- 
,,
SUPPORT ___//___,   Philip Webb
ELECTRIC   /] [] [] [] [] []|   Cities Centre, University of Toronto
TRANSIT`-O--O---'   purslowatchassdotutorontodotca




Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing: solved

2009-06-09 Thread Philip Webb
090608 Philip Webb wrote:
 090608 Mick wrote:
 I seem to have installed kde-base/mimelib, I guess as dependency:
 eix kde-base/mimelib
  Installed versions:  3.5.10(3.5)(20:11:53 06/07/09)(-debug -elibc_FreeBSD)
 I also tried changing fluxbox for kdm (in case this is a fluxbox WM issue)
 and restarted X with kdm.  Ran kbuildsycoca, but same error again.
 I always 'startx' from a raw terminal.
 I recompiled  kcminit kfind kpersonalizer kreadconfig   rebooted,
 but there is no change in Krusader's behaviour.

After the usual night's sleep to clear the cerebral tmp files
I thought of starting the new day in KDE to try fixing things there.
I swapped to my KDE version of  ~/.xinitrc   then did 'startx'
 yes the desktop menus  the panel menu had vanished.
Then I started Krusader, got the 'open with' box for a text file
 told it to open the file with Leafpad: it did some updating  obeyed.
After that, the other default 'open with' apps worked as before
 the KDE menus had been restored.  To get Apwal back with L-mouse
I had to use the KDE Control Centre 'desktop behaviour'  re-apply it.

So everything is back to normal  Krusader behaves properly on Fluxbox too.

HTH anyone else.

-- 
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SUPPORT ___//___,   Philip Webb
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing: solved

2009-06-09 Thread Mick
2009/6/9 Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net:

 After the usual night's sleep to clear the cerebral tmp files
 I thought of starting the new day in KDE to try fixing things there.
 I swapped to my KDE version of  ~/.xinitrc   then did 'startx'
  yes the desktop menus  the panel menu had vanished.
 Then I started Krusader, got the 'open with' box for a text file
  told it to open the file with Leafpad: it did some updating  obeyed.
 After that, the other default 'open with' apps worked as before
  the KDE menus had been restored.  To get Apwal back with L-mouse
 I had to use the KDE Control Centre 'desktop behaviour'  re-apply it.

 So everything is back to normal  Krusader behaves properly on Fluxbox too.

Thanks Phillip.

Did you get any apps in the 'Open With' menu list?  Mine is empty.  To
get any application to open a file I have to type it manually (or
choose one from the cached drop down entries in the Open With panel).
I ran kate %U, but nothing much happened.  :(

Will try to repeat all this in a KDE session just in case.

Meanwhile, what does your /home/user/.config/menus/applications.menu
look like.  Mine is empty and comes up with the error shown below:

$ kbuildsycoca --menutest
Warning: kbuildsycoca is unable to register with DCOP.
kbuildsycoca running...
kbuildsycoca running...
Reusing existing ksycoca
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: Parse error in
/home/michael/.config/menus/applications.menu, line 1, col 1:
unexpected end of file
-- 
Regards,
Mick



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing: solved

2009-06-09 Thread Mick
2009/6/9 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com:
 2009/6/9 Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net:

 After the usual night's sleep to clear the cerebral tmp files
 I thought of starting the new day in KDE to try fixing things there.
 I swapped to my KDE version of  ~/.xinitrc   then did 'startx'
  yes the desktop menus  the panel menu had vanished.
 Then I started Krusader, got the 'open with' box for a text file
  told it to open the file with Leafpad: it did some updating  obeyed.
 After that, the other default 'open with' apps worked as before
  the KDE menus had been restored.  To get Apwal back with L-mouse
 I had to use the KDE Control Centre 'desktop behaviour'  re-apply it.

 So everything is back to normal  Krusader behaves properly on Fluxbox too.

 Thanks Phillip.

 Did you get any apps in the 'Open With' menu list?  Mine is empty.  To
 get any application to open a file I have to type it manually (or
 choose one from the cached drop down entries in the Open With panel).
 I ran kate %U, but nothing much happened.  :(

 Will try to repeat all this in a KDE session just in case.

 Meanwhile, what does your /home/user/.config/menus/applications.menu
 look like.  Mine is empty and comes up with the error shown below:

 $ kbuildsycoca --menutest
 Warning: kbuildsycoca is unable to register with DCOP.
 kbuildsycoca running...
 kbuildsycoca running...
 Reusing existing ksycoca
 kbuildsycoca: WARNING: Parse error in
 /home/michael/.config/menus/applications.menu, line 1, col 1:
 unexpected end of file

Fixed it!

I had to delete /home/michael/.config/menus/applications.menu, then
change my setup to login using kdm/KDE instead xdm/fluxbox and this
time kbuildsycoca  worked.  Phew!  All my menus are back, Kleopatra
works fine, and kcontrol has a list on the LH side.  Getting back to
fluxbox works as normal again.

Thanks for the pointer!  :)

It seems that the elog message was implying that one must be using KDE
as a DE rather than individual applications.
-- 
Regards,
Mick



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing

2009-06-08 Thread Philip Webb
090608 Mick wrote:
 Just updated my KDE to the latest 3.5.10 and discovered
 there is no KDE menu!  This means no KDE applications menu,
  no menu on the left hand pane when I run kcontrol from a terminal:
   kcontrol: WARNING: No K menu group with X-KDE-BaseGroup=settings found!
   Defaulting to Settings/
 Also, I used to have this in my Fluxbox menu to launch Konqueror:
   [exec] (Konqueror) {kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing}
 However, this won't launch konqueror anymore.
 elog said something about running kbuildsycoca as the user
 I want to launch konqueror from, which I did,
 but is there anything else I should do to fix any of the above?

I gave up on the KDE desktop after investigating KDE 4.2.1 (ugh!)
 finding that the latest Fluxbox 1.1.1 was a bit better for what I do,
so I no longer use a KDE menu, but after updating to Kdelibs 3.5.10-r6 ,
I too encountered the problem with Konqueror above,
for which the fix is to rewrite with '{konqueror}'.

BTW I recommend Apwal for a quick  pretty desktop menu
besides the more orthodox list you can put into the Fluxbox menu.

-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing

2009-06-08 Thread Mick
2009/6/8 Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net:
 090608 Mick wrote:
 Just updated my KDE to the latest 3.5.10 and discovered
 there is no KDE menu!  This means no KDE applications menu,
  no menu on the left hand pane when I run kcontrol from a terminal:
   kcontrol: WARNING: No K menu group with X-KDE-BaseGroup=settings found!
   Defaulting to Settings/
 Also, I used to have this in my Fluxbox menu to launch Konqueror:
   [exec] (Konqueror) {kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing}
 However, this won't launch konqueror anymore.
 elog said something about running kbuildsycoca as the user
 I want to launch konqueror from, which I did,
 but is there anything else I should do to fix any of the above?

 I gave up on the KDE desktop after investigating KDE 4.2.1 (ugh!)
  finding that the latest Fluxbox 1.1.1 was a bit better for what I do,
 so I no longer use a KDE menu, but after updating to Kdelibs 3.5.10-r6 ,
 I too encountered the problem with Konqueror above,
 for which the fix is to rewrite with '{konqueror}'.

 BTW I recommend Apwal for a quick  pretty desktop menu
 besides the more orthodox list you can put into the Fluxbox menu.

Thanks Philip, I also noticed that 'konqueror' works fine, so I
changed the FB menu accordingly.  Apwal looks cool, I will give it a
spin (although I am conditioned to years of using the FB right-click
menu).

The problem remains though with most menus and submenus in KDE
applications;  e.g. right-click on a file in Konqueror, then 'Open
With' and there are no applications in the popup to select from ... I
have to type the application manually.  This is a rather significant
usability hurdle for me.

Any KDE gurus out there?
-- 
Regards,
Mick



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing

2009-06-08 Thread Philip Webb
090608 Mick wrote:
 I noticed 'konqueror' works fine, so I changed the FB menu accordingly.
 Apwal looks cool, I will give it a spin,
 though I am conditioned to years of using the FB right-click menu.

I have L-mouse = Apwal  R-mouse = FB menu : in  ~/.fluxbox/init :

  OnDesktop Mouse1 :Exec apwal
  OnDesktop Mouse2 :HideMenus
  OnDesktop Mouse3 :RootMenu

 The problem remains with most menus and submenus in KDE applications:
 e.g. right-click on a file in Konqueror, then 'Open With'
 and there are no applications in the popup to select from .

Yes, that reminds me that there was also a problem with Krusader,
which no longer knows what to open files with,
even after it is told to 'remember' the desired app.

I also updated to  kdebase-kioslaves-3.5.10-r1 ,
which mb the cause of both problems.
We should try recompiling Konqueror  Krusader to see if that helps.

 Any KDE gurus out there ?

They're all too busy looking at their reflections in Plasma (smile).

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing

2009-06-08 Thread Cristian Gary
 Run in konsole  kde 4.2  ,   bash$  kbuildsycoca4 --noincremental   with
this you force the rebuild of kde menu.

Saludos.

2009/6/8 Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net

 090608 Mick wrote:
  I noticed 'konqueror' works fine, so I changed the FB menu accordingly.
  Apwal looks cool, I will give it a spin,
  though I am conditioned to years of using the FB right-click menu.

 I have L-mouse = Apwal  R-mouse = FB menu : in  ~/.fluxbox/init :

  OnDesktop Mouse1 :Exec apwal
  OnDesktop Mouse2 :HideMenus
  OnDesktop Mouse3 :RootMenu

  The problem remains with most menus and submenus in KDE applications:
  e.g. right-click on a file in Konqueror, then 'Open With'
  and there are no applications in the popup to select from .

 Yes, that reminds me that there was also a problem with Krusader,
 which no longer knows what to open files with,
 even after it is told to 'remember' the desired app.

 I also updated to  kdebase-kioslaves-3.5.10-r1 ,
 which mb the cause of both problems.
 We should try recompiling Konqueror  Krusader to see if that helps.

  Any KDE gurus out there ?

 They're all too busy looking at their reflections in Plasma (smile).

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing

2009-06-08 Thread Philip Webb
090608 Cristian Gary wrote:
 2009/6/8 Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net
 090608 Mick wrote:
 The problem remains with most menus and submenus in KDE applications:
 e.g. right-click on a file in Konqueror, then 'Open With'
 and there are no applications in the popup to select from .
 Yes, that reminds me that there was also a problem with Krusader,
 which no longer knows what to open files with,
 even after it is told to 'remember' the desired app.
 I also updated to  kdebase-kioslaves-3.5.10-r1 ,
 which mb the cause of both problems.
 Any KDE gurus out there ?
 They're all too busy looking at their reflections in Plasma (smile).
 Run in konsole  kde 4.2  ,   bash$  kbuildsycoca4 --noincremental
 with this you force the rebuild of kde menu.

We're not using KDE 4 ! -- I don't have any of KDE 4 installed !

I've remerged Konqueror  Krusader  the problem with the latter remains.
I also (already) tried 'kbuildsycoca' :

  501: ~ kbuildsycoca --noincremental
  kbuildsycoca running...
  kio (KService*): WARNING: The service/mime type config file
  application/x-staroffice.desktop
  does not contain a ServiceType=...
  or MimeType=... entry
  kbuildsycoca: ERROR: applications.menu not found in 
(/home/purslow/.config/menus/)
  kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'kcertpart.desktop' specifies undefined 
mimetype/servicetype 'application/binary-certificate'
  kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'katepart.desktop' specifies undefined 
mimetype/servicetype 'text/x-fortran'
  kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'knotify.desktop' specifies undefined 
mimetype/servicetype 'KNotify'
  kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'gvimagepart.desktop' specifies undefined 
mimetype/servicetype 'image/x-krl'

Anyone have further suggestions ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing

2009-06-08 Thread Mick
2009/6/8 Cristian Gary cristiang...@gmail.com:
  Run in konsole  kde 4.2  ,   bash$  kbuildsycoca4 --noincremental   with
 this you force the rebuild of kde menu.

Thank you both.  I am still running kde-3.5.10 so I ran:

$ kbuildsycoca --noincremental
Warning: kbuildsycoca is unable to register with DCOP.
kbuildsycoca running...
kbuildsycoca: ERROR: applications.menu not found in
(/home/michael/.config/menus/)
kio (KService*): WARNING: The desktop entry file
.hidden/dirfilterplugin.desktop has Type=Service but is located under
apps instead of services
kio (KService*): WARNING: Invalid Service : .hidden/dirfilterplugin.desktop
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'ark_part.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'application/x-tbz2'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'karm_part.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'text/english'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'karm_part.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'text/x-c'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'karm_part.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'text/x-c++'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'klinkstatus_part.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'text/english'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'klinkstatus_part.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'text/x-c'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'klinkstatus_part.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'text/x-c++'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'kcertpart.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'application/binary-certificate'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'kxsldbg_part.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'text/english'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'kxsldbg_part.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'text/x-c'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'kxsldbg_part.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'text/x-c++'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'katepart.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'text/x-fortran'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'knotify.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'KNotify'
kbuildsycoca: WARNING: 'ksvgplugin.desktop' specifies undefined
mimetype/servicetype 'image/svg'


True enough the error about applications.menu is because this is what
I have under /home/michael/.config/menus:

total 0
drwx-- 3 michael users  88 May 13  2008 .
drwx-- 8 michael users 224 May 30 16:55 ..
drwx-- 2 michael users  48 May 13  2008 applications-merged

$ ls -la /home/michael/.config/menus/applications-merged
total 0
drwx-- 2 michael users 48 May 13  2008 .
drwx-- 3 michael users 88 May 13  2008 ..

What should it be in there?
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing

2009-06-08 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Montag 08 Juni 2009, Mick wrote:
 Hi All,

 Can't recall if anyone else posted on this.  Just updated my KDE to
 the latest 3.5.10 and discovered that there is no KDE menu!  This
 means no KDE applications menu, as well as no menu on the left hand
 pane when I run kcontrol from a terminal:

 kcontrol: WARNING: No K menu group with X-KDE-BaseGroup=settings found
 ! Defaulting to Settings/

 Also, I used to have this in my Fluxbox menu to launch Konqueror:

   [exec] (Konqueror) {kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing}

 However, this won't launch konqueror anymore.

 elog said something about running kbuildsycoca as the user I want to
 launch konqueror from, which I did,  but is there anything else I
 should do to fix any of the above?

are you missing mimelib

have you updated from monolithic to split - and missed a couple of packages?



Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing

2009-06-08 Thread Philip Webb
090608 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 are you missing mimelib

Yes, in fact I've never heard of it before.
Has it suddenly become necessary with the latest KDE 3.5.10 ?

 have you updated from monolithic to split - and missed a couple of packages?

Not here.

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing

2009-06-08 Thread Mick
On Monday 08 June 2009, Philip Webb wrote:
 090608 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
  are you missing mimelib

 Yes, in fact I've never heard of it before.
 Has it suddenly become necessary with the latest KDE 3.5.10 ?

  have you updated from monolithic to split - and missed a couple of
  packages?

 Not here.

I've updated from monolithic to split (actually removed monolithic and then 
installed split) years ago.  It has been working fine until now - 3.5.10

I seem to have installed kde-base/mimelib, I guess as dependency:

kde-base/mimelib
 Installed versions:  3.5.10(3.5)(20:11:53 06/07/09)(-debug -elibc_FreeBSD)

I also tried changing fluxbox for kdm (in case this is a fluxbox WM issue) and 
restarte X with kdm.  Ran kbuildsycoca, but same error again.  :(
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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing

2009-06-08 Thread Philip Webb
090608 Mick wrote:
 I seem to have installed kde-base/mimelib, I guess as dependency:
 eix kde-base/mimelib
  Installed versions:  3.5.10(3.5)(20:11:53 06/07/09)(-debug -elibc_FreeBSD)
 I also tried changing fluxbox for kdm (in case this is a fluxbox WM issue)
 and restarted X with kdm.  Ran kbuildsycoca, but same error again.

I always 'startx' from a raw terminal.

I recompiled  kcminit kfind kpersonalizer kreadconfig   rebooted,
but there is no change in Krusader's behaviour.

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE menu missing

2009-06-08 Thread Mick
On Monday 08 June 2009, Philip Webb wrote:
 090608 Mick wrote:
  I seem to have installed kde-base/mimelib, I guess as dependency:
  eix kde-base/mimelib
   Installed versions:  3.5.10(3.5)(20:11:53 06/07/09)(-debug
  -elibc_FreeBSD) I also tried changing fluxbox for kdm (in case this is a
  fluxbox WM issue) and restarted X with kdm.  Ran kbuildsycoca, but same
  error again.

 I always 'startx' from a raw terminal.

 I recompiled  kcminit kfind kpersonalizer kreadconfig   rebooted,
 but there is no change in Krusader's behaviour.

Just tried kfmclient and this is the response:

$ kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing
kfmclient: ERROR: Couldn't start konqueror from konqueror.desktop: Could not 
find service 'konqueror.desktop'.

So it seems that all the kde applications that were installed have not been 
registered.  I remerged konqueror just in case and noticed this elog message 
amidst others:

* Messages for package kde-base/konqueror-3.5.10:

 * /usr/kde/3.5/share/applications/kde/keditbookmarks.desktop: required 
key Type in group Desktop Entry is not present -- required key Name in 
group Desktop Entry is not present

The file in question contains:

[Desktop Entry]
Hidden=true

Should it be Hidden-false?  What is this for?
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