[Gimp-developer] Re: another Perl-Server question

2001-07-25 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, Brian Richardson wrote: well, I have things working, but it's a bit of a hack. What I really want to do is launch Perl-Server, running as user nobody, from my init scripts (I use the Perl-Server extensively in my CGI development). So, I put together a setuid wrapper to

[Gimp-developer] Re: another Perl-Server question

2001-07-25 Thread Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-07-25 at 1140.55 +0300): but I don't see any way of detaching the gimp process from the controlling terminal so that I can background it without terminating the gimp. Any suggestions, or is this a feature which may be added at a later date? ;) With control

Re: [Gimp-developer] glib/gtk+ 2.0 port

2001-07-25 Thread Adam D. Moss
Michael Natterer wrote: after some hours of torturing it with perl and some manual hacking, i got gimp running on current CVS glib/gtk+. ... (applying it means that if you want to hack or simply use gimp 1.3, you will need glib, pango, atk and gtk+ HEAD from CVS too). I few questions: *

Re: [Gimp-developer] glib/gtk+ 2.0 port

2001-07-25 Thread Adam D. Moss
Adam D. Moss wrote: Is GTK 1.3 (or GTK 1.9, or 2.0, or whatever the GTK HEAD is!) ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer

Re: [Gimp-developer] glib/gtk+ 2.0 port

2001-07-25 Thread Kelly Martin
On Wed, 25 Jul 2001 17:57:50 +0100, Adam D. Moss [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: * What are pango and atk, and why do we suddenly require them (if indeed we do)? * Are there compelling advantages to using CVS-GTK which outweigh the cons of forcing developers and users to upgrade? Is GTK 1.3 not

Re: [Gimp-developer] glib/gtk+ 2.0 port

2001-07-25 Thread Michael Natterer
Hi, answering both mails in one... Kelly Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 25 Jul 2001 17:57:50 +0100, Adam D. Moss [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: * What are pango and atk, and why do we suddenly require them (if indeed we do)? Pango is the font layout and rendering system used by gtk+.

Re: [Gimp-developer] glib/gtk+ 2.0 port

2001-07-25 Thread Adam D. Moss
Michael Natterer wrote: And BTW, GIMP 1.4 will be released _after_ Gtk 2.0 is released in a stable version (which will be in not too distant future). I assumed nothing less. IMHO the pro's outweigh the con's by far, as it's simply not possible without grand hacks to write an internal object

Re: [Gimp-developer] glib/gtk+ 2.0 port

2001-07-25 Thread pcg
On Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 03:43:51PM -0500, Kelly Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you have to use a development version at least pick a fixed point in development and use that. Otherwise you're coding to not one, but two moving targets: your own code PLUS the moving code in the library you

Re: [Gimp-developer] glib/gtk+ 2.0 port

2001-07-25 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Kelly Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why should we expect the GTK+ developers to keep their HEAD revision compilable at every moment? That is a completely unreasonable expectation in the first place. If I were a GTK+ developer I would be asking that you NOT do what you're proposing

Re: [Gimp-developer] glib/gtk+ 2.0 port

2001-07-25 Thread Lourens Veen
Kelly Martin wrote: [snip] If GTK stable release (1.2) is not acceptable for further development in the GIMP (which it probably is not), I would strongly urge picking a relatively stable snapshot of GTK+ current development (possibly, but not necessarily HEAD today) and use that. We might

Re: [Gimp-developer] glib/gtk+ 2.0 port

2001-07-25 Thread Kelly Martin
On 26 Jul 2001 00:17:03 +0200, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: you are obviously not well informed about the current state of GTK+-2.0. No, I don't _care_ about the current state of the development of an unreleased package. We should not be using unreleased code. Why can't we just use

Re: [Gimp-developer] glib/gtk+ 2.0 port

2001-07-25 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Kelly Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why can't we just use 1.3.6? That's a frozen release that should be reasonably close to the eventual 2.0.0 release. who said, we couldn't do this? I do know that the current CVS HEAD works and has some smaller improvements but that could of course

Re: [Gimp-developer] glib/gtk+ 2.0 port

2001-07-25 Thread pcg
On Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 04:40:41PM -0500, Kelly Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why should we expect the GTK+ developers to keep their HEAD revision compilable at every moment? because that's what they do, what gimp does, what every other project does. if the head revision isn't compilable