Re: [Gimp-developer] color management

2004-07-09 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Tor Lillqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't know what the solution is. Maybe some way to (temporarily) associate an invokation of the colour selector with a specific image? An entry in the Image menu Select colour in image's colour space? The color selector is opened from the toolbox

Re: [Gimp-developer] color management

2004-07-09 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Tor Lillqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Assume GIMP uses Sven's original idea (i.e. Alastair's preferred method) where images keep their original colour space. Say a user is working on an image in some colour space with a much larger gamut than sRGB. If the colour selector allows only

Re: [Gimp-developer] color management

2004-07-09 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Quoting Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: All we are discussing here is whether it makes sense to use display filters to color-correct the image display (and optionally color selector displays). I don't think there is any argument about that. It does make sense to apply the monitor's

Re: [Gimp-developer] color management

2004-07-09 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: point that we are discussing is how file plug-ins should handle embedded color profiles, i.e. whether to attach the profile to the image or not. I may be listening to a different conversation. The other point was whether embedded profiles should

Re: [Gimp-developer] rearranging ToolboxXtns Menu

2004-07-09 Thread Roman Joost
Hi Carol, On Tue, Jul 06, 2004 at 08:47:14AM -0700, Carol Spears wrote: the bug report suggests this rearrangement of the Xtns menu (which is a huge mess if you install all of the difference scripting options that the linux gimp has): The New Structure Toolbox/Xtns/: Module Manager

Re: Lists, Arrays and Vectors [was Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Tiny-Fu: A new plug-in for GIMP]

2004-07-09 Thread Markus Triska
By using vectors I was able to very quickly update the portion of those scripts which used SIOD array functions. I have not changed the Tiny-Fu marshalling code yet but I will do that soon and release a new tarball. Now since there is essentially a one-to-one correspondence between Tiny-Fu's

Re: [Gimp-developer] color management

2004-07-09 Thread Alastair M. Robinson
Hi David, David Neary wrote: I'll conduct some tests some time and try and figure out just how bad these quantisation errors could be. Great - quantitative data will really help. I've done some testing - I wrote a little program that puts every possible 8-bit RGB colour through an lcms

Re: [Gimp-developer] color management

2004-07-09 Thread Alastair M. Robinson
Hi Sven, Sven Neumann wrote: Well, it got to be doable in the file plug-ins since we don't want to have the core depend on lcms. Applying the embedded profile at load time could very well happen in the file plug-ins though. If the core needs to perform colorspace transformations then we should

Re: [Gimp-developer] color management

2004-07-09 Thread David Neary
Hi Alastair, Alastair M. Robinson wrote: Given the limitations we're trying to work within, I think the best compromise is likely to be something like this: snip some very good suggestions - Change the GIMP's working profile to match this image. This will leave the image data

Re: [Gimp-developer] color management

2004-07-09 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So say I open an image with a color profile, and then load a second image with a different profile. If I now decide to do the above, what do we do to the first image? 1) We stop using the profile for the first image (and if the image window is

Re: [Gimp-developer] color management

2004-07-09 Thread David Neary
Hi, Sven Neumann wrote: David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1) We stop using the profile for the first image (and if the image window is open, this will obviously change the visual representation of the image), but keep it attached to the image so that we can re-save it with the image

Re: [Gimp-developer] color management

2004-07-09 Thread Alastair M. Robinson
Hi Dave, David Neary wrote: So say I open an image with a color profile, and then load a second image with a different profile. If I now decide to do the above, what do we do to the first image? 1) We stop using the profile for the first image (and if the image window is open, this will obviously

Re: [Gimp-developer] color management

2004-07-09 Thread William Skaggs
It really isn't all that complicated. Here is all you need to do (this is basically what Sven outlined with a couple of extra details.) 1) Gimp uses the same color space internally for all images. This could be either sRGB or a user-selected one (in which case it is specified by a

Re: [Gimp-developer] rearranging ToolboxXtns Menu

2004-07-09 Thread Carol Spears
hello Roman, On Fri, Jul 09, 2004 at 02:03:26PM +0200, Roman Joost wrote: On Tue, Jul 06, 2004 at 08:47:14AM -0700, Carol Spears wrote: the bug report suggests this rearrangement of the Xtns menu (which is a huge mess if you install all of the difference scripting options that the linux

Re: [Gimp-developer] rearranging ToolboxXtns Menu

2004-07-09 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: so the link to the documentation should go directly to whatever scripting documentation came with the gimp. Is there any? And how would gimp know where it is installed? bookmarks go to online sources of information. For reasons I outlined already,

Re: Lists, Arrays and Vectors [was Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Tiny-Fu: A new plug-in for GIMP]

2004-07-09 Thread Kevin Cozens
At 01:38 PM 07/09/2004, you wrote: Now since there is essentially a one-to-one correspondence between Tiny-Fu's vectors and Script-Fu's arrays, it might be worth considering adding compatibility definitions to init.scm (similar to gimpcompat.h for plug-ins), that would, depending on a certain