Re: [Gimp-developer] Joining the GNOME Foundation

2004-05-05 Thread Henrik Brix Andersen
Hi, On Mon, 2004-05-03 at 10:01, Dave Neary wrote: Daniel Rogers wrote: And if you are not a non-profit you need to pay taxes, wether or not you make money. (and if GIMP joins GNOME and abandons TGF, I'm the one that has to pay the 800 dollar minimum tax, I might add). I think

Re: [Gimp-developer] Joining the GNOME Foundation

2004-05-04 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Nathan Carl Summers wrote: On Sat, 1 May 2004, David Neary wrote: Are there any people opposed to closer ties with the GNOME Foundation? I don't see any reason why we can't do both: work closely with the GNOME Foundation now, while the GIMP Foundation is getting off the ground, and then

Re: [Gimp-developer] Joining the GNOME Foundation

2004-05-04 Thread Branko Collin
On 3 May 2004, at 9:05, Daniel Rogers wrote: Sven Neumann wrote: It's not that we wouldn't put a lot of effort into making GIMP work well on a GNOME desktop. Adhering to FreeDesktop standards is one of our goals and we are even working towards full GNOME HIG compliance. The only things

Re: [Gimp-developer] Joining the GNOME Foundation

2004-05-04 Thread Branko Collin
On 3 May 2004, at 12:51, Sven Neumann wrote: Every time we port GIMP to new features of the GIMP toolkit I get the strong impression that we are the first using the new API. Is this phenomenon constricted to GTK? -- branko collin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Gimp-developer] Joining the GNOME Foundation

2004-05-04 Thread Daniel Rogers
Kelly Martin wrote: I'd be very surprised if the GNOME Foundation passed along *all* funds untouched donated with a simple earmark for the GIMP to the GIMP people; I would fully expect them to take an administrative fee of between 5% and 50% (maybe even more). You might want to have an

Re: [Gimp-developer] Joining the GNOME Foundation

2004-05-03 Thread Carol Spears
On Sat, May 01, 2004 at 05:56:43PM +0100, Adam D. Moss wrote: (we've enjoyed peripheral use of some of their services such as CVS for a while). my personal experience with gnome cvs is really bad. i am paraphrasing one of the developers i have a great deal of respect for (paraphrasing since

Re: [Gimp-developer] Joining the GNOME Foundation

2004-05-03 Thread Dave Neary
Hi Dan, Daniel Rogers wrote: And if you are not a non-profit you need to pay taxes, wether or not you make money. (and if GIMP joins GNOME and abandons TGF, I'm the one that has to pay the 800 dollar minimum tax, I might add). I think that everyone should pool in together to pay this. I have

Re: [Gimp-developer] Joining the GNOME Foundation

2004-05-03 Thread Dave Neary
Carol Spears wrote: On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 08:04:04PM +0200, David Neary wrote: (we use their toolkit and infrastructure, a few years ago they used to use our toolkit), did the name change? as far as i know it is still the gimp tool kit. There are only a very small number of people who really

Re: [Gimp-developer] Joining the GNOME Foundation

2004-05-03 Thread Branko Collin
On 2 May 2004, at 23:24, Carol Spears wrote: not using doc format was a really good suggestion, The solutions mankind has come up with to increase readability are diverse, and range from using open document formats to using capitals at the beginning of sentences and for the word 'I'. I

Re: [Gimp-developer] Joining the GNOME Foundation

2004-05-03 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There are only a very small number of people who really believe this to be still the case. It may still be called the GIMP Toolkit (but more more I've heard it called the GNOME Toolkit), but that is a historical nod. The GIMP Toolkit is less a GIMP

Re: [Gimp-developer] Joining the GNOME Foundation

2004-05-03 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Daniel Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: See the problem I see with the GINPOG attitude and joining GNOME is that we are saying we are willing to take your money and your time and your developers, but we are not willing to actually show any support for you in any way. It's kinda

Re: [Gimp-developer] Joining the GNOME Foundation

2004-05-03 Thread Daniel Rogers
Sven Neumann wrote: It's not that we wouldn't put a lot of effort into making GIMP work well on a GNOME desktop. Adhering to FreeDesktop standards is one of our goals and we are even working towards full GNOME HIG compliance. The only things we really want to avoid is to be forced to do any of

Re: [Gimp-developer] Joining the GNOME Foundation

2004-05-03 Thread Michael Schumacher
Daniel Rogers wrote: David Neary wrote: Are there any people opposed to closer ties with the GNOME Foundation? Well, GIMP is not part of GNOME, and this assertion was made repeatedly over the years. Apart from labeling GIMP more of a GNOME program, I wouldn't oppose (but I don't count much anyway

Re: [Gimp-developer] Joining the GNOME Foundation

2004-05-03 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Michael Schumacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thne fears that I - as a Win32 user - have are that by moving closer to GNOME, GIMP might become too linux-centric. If those fears are unjustified, I'd be glad to presented the facts that render them invalid. No facts, but since GIMP works

Re: [Gimp-developer] Joining the GNOME Foundation

2004-05-03 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On 3 May 2004, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There are only a very small number of people who really believe this to be still the case. It may still be called the GIMP Toolkit (but more more I've heard it called the GNOME Toolkit), but that is a

Re: [Gimp-developer] Joining the GNOME Foundation

2004-05-03 Thread Nathan Carl Summers
On Sat, 1 May 2004, David Neary wrote: Hi all, Myself and Dan Rogers will be meeting with someone from the GNOME Foundation this week with the intention of having greater co-operation with them on things like money. For the moment, I am working under the supposition that the best option

Re: [Gimp-developer] Joining the GNOME Foundation

2004-05-02 Thread pcg
On Sat, May 01, 2004 at 06:06:54PM +0200, David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the moment, I am working under the supposition that the best option available to us is to join the GNOME Foundation. That means that when we do fundraising, the donations would go to the GNOME Foundation, and

Re: [Gimp-developer] Joining the GNOME Foundation

2004-05-02 Thread David Neary
Hi, Marc A. Lehmann wrote: On Sat, May 01, 2004 at 06:06:54PM +0200, David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the moment, I am working under the supposition that the best option available to us is to join the GNOME Foundation. That means that when we do fundraising, the donations would

Re: [Gimp-developer] Joining the GNOME Foundation

2004-05-02 Thread Carol Spears
On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 08:04:04PM +0200, David Neary wrote: (we use their toolkit and infrastructure, a few years ago they used to use our toolkit), did the name change? as far as i know it is still the gimp tool kit. some of you have children. can you imagine asking them for money? i

[Gimp-developer] Joining the GNOME Foundation

2004-05-01 Thread David Neary
Hi all, Myself and Dan Rogers will be meeting with someone from the GNOME Foundation this week with the intention of having greater co-operation with them on things like money. For the moment, I am working under the supposition that the best option available to us is to join the GNOME

Re: [Gimp-developer] Joining the GNOME Foundation

2004-05-01 Thread Adam D. Moss
David Neary wrote: Are there any people opposed to closer ties with the GNOME Foundation? As long as GIMP wouldn't be in a rush to / obligated to subscribe to their apalling standards of slaphappy dead-end over-engineering and 1991-shareware approach to user interface standards then I think it