Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.4 showstoppers

2006-11-15 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Wed, 2006-11-15 at 19:22 -0500, Robert L Krawitz wrote: >The gimp-print/guten-print plug-in is developed by different people >and is not at all coupled to the GIMP release cycles. We should >however consider to make the print plug-in that's being shipped >with GIMP aware of

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: 2.4 showstoppers

2006-11-15 Thread Alastair M. Robinson
Hi, 2. Managed Display - To me mode this should be used for web graphics and users with the large majority of inkjets which are indeed RGB devices in that they expect RGB data. As Hal pointed out, printing is irrelevant in this mode. Behind the scenes, "Managed Display" should be doing a sim

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.4 showstoppers

2006-11-15 Thread Robert L Krawitz
From: Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 20:38:07 +0100 On Wed, 2006-11-15 at 11:02 -0800, Hal V. Engel wrote: > One area were many on the OpenICC list agree is that the > photoshop/proprietary OS approach to CM could be substantially > improved in the area

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: 2.4 showstoppers

2006-11-15 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Wed, 2006-11-15 at 15:02 -0800, Hal V. Engel wrote: > The last version I tried is 2.3.12 and selecting profiles was by file name. > Most other CM aware software including (but not limited to) photoshop, The > Windows Color control panel applet, cinepaint, Krita and LProf (should Scibus

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: 2.4 showstoppers

2006-11-15 Thread Hal V. Engel
On Wednesday 15 November 2006 13:42, Plinnell wrote: snip > > > > > Sven > > I have been playing with the color management in CVS and it is getting > there for sure. > > My thinking is the choice of controls and terminology should be guided > by the 3 modes you have. > > 1. No color management mea

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.4 showstoppers

2006-11-15 Thread Hal V. Engel
On Wednesday 15 November 2006 11:38, Sven Neumann wrote: snip > > With the exception of printer CM support there is not that much work that > > needs to be done to GIMP to finish off the CM implementation. > > Printing is left to plug-ins, so we don't need to deal with it except > for providing w

[Gimp-developer] Re: 2.4 showstoppers

2006-11-15 Thread Plinnell
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Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.4 showstoppers

2006-11-15 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Wed, 2006-11-15 at 23:07 +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > > That brings up another showstopper for 2.4 that is missing from the list > > I posted earlier. We need to check if the new print plug-in is ready for > > release. Since I don't use GTK+ 2.10 yet, I didn't get a chance to have

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.4 showstoppers

2006-11-15 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 11/15/06, Sven Neumann wrote: That brings up another showstopper for 2.4 that is missing from the list I posted earlier. We need to check if the new print plug-in is ready for release. Since I don't use GTK+ 2.10 yet, I didn't get a chance to have a look at it yet. What requirements should

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.4 showstoppers

2006-11-15 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Wed, 2006-11-15 at 11:02 -0800, Hal V. Engel wrote: > Also some time ago I put together a fairly detailed description of what was > needed and where this should be located in the GIMP menu structure that I > submitted to this list. There have been similar proposals from others as > wel

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.4 showstoppers

2006-11-15 Thread Hal V. Engel
On Wednesday 15 November 2006 10:05, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > On 11/15/06, Sven Neumann wrote: > > I know about the OpenICC project and I am subscribed to the > > mailing-list. But I don't think they can provide me with a decent > > proposal for color management policies and what terms to use.

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.4 showstoppers

2006-11-15 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Wed, 2006-11-15 at 21:05 +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > If by "them" you are referring to developers of Scribus, ICC-Examin, > LProf etc. and technical specialists of Lexmark, HP and Adobe, then, > most likely, yes -- "they" can. If you are referring to somebody else > from that list

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.4 showstoppers

2006-11-15 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 11/15/06, Sven Neumann wrote: I know about the OpenICC project and I am subscribed to the mailing-list. But I don't think they can provide me with a decent proposal for color management policies and what terms to use. If by "them" you are referring to developers of Scribus, ICC-Examin, LPro

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimprc confusion

2006-11-15 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Wed, 2006-11-15 at 07:36 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I had gimp-cvs installed in /opt/gimp and wanted to use gimp-2.2 to print > some photos. I was getting errors starting gimp-2.2 so I ran make install > on gimp-cvs but 2.2. failed to start thowing up half a dozen errors. gimp-

Re: [Gimp-developer] gimprc confusion

2006-11-15 Thread Michael Schumacher
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Re: [Gimp-developer] gimprc confusion

2006-11-15 Thread gg
On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:36:53 +0100, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I had gimp-cvs installed in /opt/gimp and wanted to use gimp-2.2 to print some photos. I was getting errors starting gimp-2.2 so I ran make install on gimp-cvs but 2.2. failed to start thowing up half a dozen errors.

[Gimp-developer] gimprc confusion

2006-11-15 Thread gg
Hi, I had gimp-cvs installed in /opt/gimp and wanted to use gimp-2.2 to print some photos. I was getting errors starting gimp-2.2 so I ran make install on gimp-cvs but 2.2. failed to start thowing up half a dozen errors. $ gimp GIMP: Error while parsing '/home/prof/.gimp-2.3/gimprc' in li

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.4 showstoppers

2006-11-15 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Wed, 2006-11-15 at 11:51 +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > I would strongly recommend work out common terminology with developers > of other open source projects instead. Having uniform terminology is > one of the reasons the OpenIcc project [1] exists: commercial > applications fail to

Re: [Gimp-developer] 2.4 showstoppers

2006-11-15 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 11/15/06, Sven Neumann wrote: I would also like to further improve the color management preferences. In this case it seems like a good idea to try to get something that resembles the Photoshop color management configuration in terms of terminology and policies. Sven, I would strongly recom

[Gimp-developer] 2.4 showstoppers

2006-11-15 Thread Sven Neumann
Moin, slowly but steadily the state of GIMP 2.3 is reaching a point where it can be released as 2.4. I would like to point out some showstoppers in the hope that we can get some help with them. There is also the list of bugs on the 2.4 milestone in Bugzilla and this mail somewhat overlaps with tha