Re: [Gimp-developer] PyGIMP question: saving PNG and XCF versions of the same image

[David Gowers]

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Ryan Krauss  wrote:
> Thanks David.  I stumbled onto that solution just before I checked my email
> :)
>
> This does the trick of creating the file to go to PNG:
>
>     pdb.gimp_edit_copy_visible(img)
>     img2 = pdb.gimp_edit_paste_as_new()
>
> It does work nice and doesn't seem to take too long.
>
> So, my script does almost everything that I want.  One last annoyance is
> that I can't seem to get the window title to change from Untitled-N.0 after
> the XCF save to the XCF filename.  Neither of these seem to set the window
> title:
>
> pdb.gimp_xcf_save(1, img, drawable, xcf_path, xcf_path)
> pdb.gimp_file_save(img, drawable, xcf_path, xcf_path)

Neither of the above set the filename.
You should do this.
image.filename = xcf_path

>
> It makes me a little nervous to close windows that don't have the filenames
> in the title and are not marked clean (no *).  I can do this at the end of
> the script
>
> pdb.gimp_image_clean_all(img)
>
> but the docs seem to say I shouldn't and that still doesn't set the window
> title.
>
> How should I save an XCF from a Python script (I assume either of the pdb
> save methods above) and how do I set the window title?

Saving XCF -- either of the methods you mentioned is fine.
You don't set the window title (except indirectly, as above)

>  Should the image
> automatically be set as clean?
Yes, since you've saved in XCF. That is, setting it clean makes sense,
since that's what the GUI code does at the equivalent point in the
normal Save process.

The recently introduced Export framework may end up simplifying your
situation.. It considers a file 'clean' only when it has just been
saved to XCF (or xcf.gz, etc) format, and introduces a separate
'Export' action for producing a 'rendered result' in eg. PNG format.
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Re: [Gimp-developer] PyGIMP question: saving PNG and XCF versions of the same image

[Ryan Krauss]

Thanks David.  I stumbled onto that solution just before I checked my email
:)

This does the trick of creating the file to go to PNG:

pdb.gimp_edit_copy_visible(img)
img2 = pdb.gimp_edit_paste_as_new()

It does work nice and doesn't seem to take too long.

So, my script does almost everything that I want.  One last annoyance is
that I can't seem to get the window title to change from Untitled-N.0 after
the XCF save to the XCF filename.  Neither of these seem to set the window
title:

pdb.gimp_xcf_save(1, img, drawable, xcf_path, xcf_path)
pdb.gimp_file_save(img, drawable, xcf_path, xcf_path)

It makes me a little nervous to close windows that don't have the filenames
in the title and are not marked clean (no *).  I can do this at the end of
the script

pdb.gimp_image_clean_all(img)

but the docs seem to say I shouldn't and that still doesn't set the window
title.

How should I save an XCF from a Python script (I assume either of the pdb
save methods above) and how do I set the window title?  Should the image
automatically be set as clean?

Thanks,

Ryan

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 12:46 AM, David Gowers <00a...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Ryan,
>
> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Ryan Krauss  wrote:
> > I have a Python Gimp question.  I don't know if it belongs on the user or
> > developer list, but my feeling is that the people with the knowledge are
> > more likely to read this list.  Let me know if this is the wrong list to
> > post to.
> >
> > I have written a script to create PNG and XCF versions of an image I want
> to
> > save.  I have a certain layer whose visibility I want to turn off before
> I
> > save the PNG but I also want the XCF to give me more editting power if I
> > want to alter the image later.  I have this working fairly well, but the
> > problem is that when my script finishes, I am looking at the flattened
> PNG
> > version of the image.  At that point, I would need to close the PNG and
> > re-open the XCF if I want to edit the file.  This is less than ideal.  I
> > think it could be solved by simply doing one undo step after saving the
> PNG
> > (since flattening was the last thing I did), but I don't see in the
> > procedural database a way to undo from a script.  Is there a way to save
> a
> > flattened PNG and then save an unflattened XCF of the same image and
> leave
> > the XCF open?
>
> Duplicate the image and do your flattening on the copy. It's more
> efficient than you might think -- the main time involved in
> duplicating a moderate sized image seems to be actually in setting up
> its GUI window rather
>
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Re: [Gimp-developer] PyGIMP question: saving PNG and XCF versions of the same image

[David Gowers]

Hello Ryan,

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Ryan Krauss  wrote:
> I have a Python Gimp question.  I don't know if it belongs on the user or
> developer list, but my feeling is that the people with the knowledge are
> more likely to read this list.  Let me know if this is the wrong list to
> post to.
>
> I have written a script to create PNG and XCF versions of an image I want to
> save.  I have a certain layer whose visibility I want to turn off before I
> save the PNG but I also want the XCF to give me more editting power if I
> want to alter the image later.  I have this working fairly well, but the
> problem is that when my script finishes, I am looking at the flattened PNG
> version of the image.  At that point, I would need to close the PNG and
> re-open the XCF if I want to edit the file.  This is less than ideal.  I
> think it could be solved by simply doing one undo step after saving the PNG
> (since flattening was the last thing I did), but I don't see in the
> procedural database a way to undo from a script.  Is there a way to save a
> flattened PNG and then save an unflattened XCF of the same image and leave
> the XCF open?

Duplicate the image and do your flattening on the copy. It's more
efficient than you might think -- the main time involved in
duplicating a moderate sized image seems to be actually in setting up
its GUI window rather
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[Gimp-developer] PyGIMP question: saving PNG and XCF versions of the same image

[Ryan Krauss]

I have a Python Gimp question.  I don't know if it belongs on the user or
developer list, but my feeling is that the people with the knowledge are
more likely to read this list.  Let me know if this is the wrong list to
post to.

I have written a script to create PNG and XCF versions of an image I want to
save.  I have a certain layer whose visibility I want to turn off before I
save the PNG but I also want the XCF to give me more editting power if I
want to alter the image later.  I have this working fairly well, but the
problem is that when my script finishes, I am looking at the flattened PNG
version of the image.  At that point, I would need to close the PNG and
re-open the XCF if I want to edit the file.  This is less than ideal.  I
think it could be solved by simply doing one undo step after saving the PNG
(since flattening was the last thing I did), but I don't see in the
procedural database a way to undo from a script.  Is there a way to save a
flattened PNG and then save an unflattened XCF of the same image and leave
the XCF open?

Here is my code:

from gimpfu import *

def my_save(img, drawable):
ind = find_graph_ind(img)

if ind:
img.layers[ind].visible = False
filename = save_as(initialdir=folder, initialfile=new_name)#<--- get
filename from Tk dialog
print('filename = ' + filename)
if filename:
pne, ext = os.path.splitext(filename)
xcf_path = pne+'.xcf'
pdb.gimp_xcf_save(1, img, drawable, xcf_path, xcf_path)
flat_layer = pdb.gimp_image_flatten(img)
pdb.gimp_file_save(img, flat_layer, filename, filename)#<---
filename ends in .png
#pdb.file_png_save(img, flat_layer, filename, filename, \
#  0, 0, 0, 0, 0, \
#  1, 1)
#pdb.gimp_image_clean_all(img)
#gimp.displays_flush()


Thanks,

Ryan
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[Gimp-developer] about photoshop

[Esteban Barahona]

using cs4 now... and honestly, i prefer the current version of gimp (under
window$ or linuX)
no hard feelings, no regrets...
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Re: [Gimp-developer] [PATCH] fix to batch console support

[Esteban Barahona]

script fu?

.../5/28 Christopher Montgomery 

> The batch mode console is using stdio but never flushing its output
> after fwrite()s.  This still usually works by accident when using
> batch mode from a terminal, but it means scripts generally won't work
> as responses to requests never get flushed through the return pipe.
>
> Apologies for this not being in git format-patch format, it was a spot
> test to get other unit tests working and trivial enough it doesn't
> seem worth the extra trouble.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Monty
>
> diff --git a/plug-ins/script-fu/scheme-wrapper.c
> b/plug-ins/script-fu/scheme-wrapper.c
> index 9212801..fbcf81b 100644
> --- a/plug-ins/script-fu/scheme-wrapper.c
> +++ b/plug-ins/script-fu/scheme-wrapper.c
> @@ -329,6 +329,7 @@ ts_stdout_output_func (TsOutputType  type,
>   if (len < 0)
> len = strlen (string);
>   fprintf (stdout, "%.*s", len, string);
> +  fflush (stdout);
>  }
>
>  void
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Re: [Gimp-developer] [PATCH] fix to batch console support

[Martin Nordholts]

Sven Neumann wrote:
> Please merge this to the gimp-2-6 branch also.
>
> Sven
>   
There we go:

commit 3c59c936e075a36d1648cbf38ae12c2577432f74
Author: Christopher Montgomery 
Date:   Thu May 28 21:06:53 2009 +0200

plug-ins: Make sure to flush output in ts_stdout_output_func()


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Re: [Gimp-developer] [PATCH] fix to batch console support

[Sven Neumann]

Hi,

On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 21:08 +0200, Martin Nordholts wrote:
> Christopher Montgomery wrote:
> > The batch mode console is using stdio but never flushing its output
> > after fwrite()s.  This still usually works by accident when using
> > batch mode from a terminal, but it means scripts generally won't work
> > as responses to requests never get flushed through the return pipe.
> 
> Seems like a reasonable patch to me, I pushed to GNOME master:
> 
> commit 7b7d44837834061e8ee2c668b0f9d99d9ae13dcf
> Author: Christopher Montgomery 
> Date:   Thu May 28 21:06:53 2009 +0200
> 
> plug-ins: Make sure to flush output in ts_stdout_output_func()

Please merge this to the gimp-2-6 branch also.


Sven


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Re: [Gimp-developer] [PATCH] fix to batch console support

[Martin Nordholts]

Christopher Montgomery wrote:
> The batch mode console is using stdio but never flushing its output
> after fwrite()s.  This still usually works by accident when using
> batch mode from a terminal, but it means scripts generally won't work
> as responses to requests never get flushed through the return pipe.

Seems like a reasonable patch to me, I pushed to GNOME master:

commit 7b7d44837834061e8ee2c668b0f9d99d9ae13dcf
Author: Christopher Montgomery 
Date:   Thu May 28 21:06:53 2009 +0200

plug-ins: Make sure to flush output in ts_stdout_output_func()

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[Gimp-developer] [PATCH] fix to batch console support

[Christopher Montgomery]

The batch mode console is using stdio but never flushing its output
after fwrite()s.  This still usually works by accident when using
batch mode from a terminal, but it means scripts generally won't work
as responses to requests never get flushed through the return pipe.

Apologies for this not being in git format-patch format, it was a spot
test to get other unit tests working and trivial enough it doesn't
seem worth the extra trouble.

Cheers,

Monty

diff --git a/plug-ins/script-fu/scheme-wrapper.c
b/plug-ins/script-fu/scheme-wrapper.c
index 9212801..fbcf81b 100644
--- a/plug-ins/script-fu/scheme-wrapper.c
+++ b/plug-ins/script-fu/scheme-wrapper.c
@@ -329,6 +329,7 @@ ts_stdout_output_func (TsOutputType  type,
   if (len < 0)
 len = strlen (string);
   fprintf (stdout, "%.*s", len, string);
+  fflush (stdout);
 }

 void
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Re: [Gimp-developer] formatting patch

[Martin Nordholts]

Stephen Griffiths wrote:
> I just came across a chunk of code with mixed space/tab indenting and 
> fixed it.  Hopefully posting it to the devel list is fine.

Thanks, nice to see a patch in the form of a git commit. I've pushed 
that commit now:

commit d5fddb5ba989cd2af8cc5e846d6959ac84cd320e
Author: Stephen Griffiths 
Date:   Thu May 28 22:52:41 2009 +1000

app: gimpuimanager.c formatting

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Re: [Gimp-developer] user interface modes

[Esteban Barahona]

thanks martin,

regards,
esteban

2009/5/28 Martin Nordholts 

> yahvuu wrote:
> > hi all,
> >
> > here's a description of GIMP's basic image manipulation model
> > from a UI point of view that i'd like to share:
> > http://yahvuu.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/gimpmodes1.pdf
>
> I like what I read and am looking forward to further contributions in
> the realm of GIMP UI from you
>
> Best regards,
> Martin
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Re: [Gimp-developer] user interface modes

[Martin Nordholts]

yahvuu wrote:
> hi all,
>
> here's a description of GIMP's basic image manipulation model
> from a UI point of view that i'd like to share:
> http://yahvuu.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/gimpmodes1.pdf

I like what I read and am looking forward to further contributions in 
the realm of GIMP UI from you

Best regards,
Martin
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Re: [Gimp-developer] sorry

[Guillermo Espertino]

Hi Esteban.
I found your marbles.
Here you are... You can go now.

It's perfectly clear. You're leaving because you prefer Mac OSX and
Photoshop and people here have been mean with you.
We understand.

Good luck and bye.

Gez.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Wanted: Gimp Modification for Kids Product

[Jeffrey Brent McBeth]

On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 01:15:23PM -0400, Jackson Tam wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Thanks for all your help and replies.
> 
> I downloaded TuxPaint and gave it a try. The interface is
> straightforward but the process of getting JPEG's from the digital
> camera we're selling into PNG format and then into the proper folder in
> order to open the files seems like a lot of work. (We're using Windows).

It is too bad "folder actions" aren't a part of Windows, it would turn
things into a 5 minutes task to get automated conversion / file moving
working from then on.

I wouldn't give up on TuxPain so quickly, they've done the hard part
for you already (making an interface a developmentally delayed
3-year-old can use (speaking from personal experience)).  The
conversion/moving is the easy bit. 

Jeff

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Wanted: Gimp Modification for Kids Product

[Jackson Tam]

Hi all,

Thanks for all your help and replies.

I downloaded TuxPaint and gave it a try. The interface is
straightforward but the process of getting JPEG's from the digital
camera we're selling into PNG format and then into the proper folder in
order to open the files seems like a lot of work. (We're using Windows).

So it seems like a customization of GIMP may be our best option. Is
there anyone out there in GIMP developer land that would be able to
develop the simpler, kid friendly modification for us? (Please see my
original e-mail for some more details). 

If you're able to develop this for us, please e-mail me and send me a
quote.

Thanks!
Jackson

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Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] Wanted: Gimp Modification for Kids Product

On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 12:12 AM, Andrew A. Gill wrote:

> I'm not sure about TuxPaint

I am, in opposite, very sure about Tuxpaint. We've tried it in schools
here and it's really good for younger pupils.

Alexandre
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Re: [Gimp-developer] user interface modes

[Esteban Barahona]

grazie.

2552/5/28 yahvuu 

> hi all,
>
> here's a description of GIMP's basic image manipulation model
> from a UI point of view that i'd like to share:
> http://yahvuu.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/gimpmodes1.pdf
>
> This is intended as inspiration for user interface thoughts
> rather than being thorough documentation. Originally planned
> for the brainstorm, it just didn't work without some words..
>
> A summary in ASCII follows below.
> Feedback is highly appreciated.
>
>
> enjoy,
> peter
>
>
>
>
> The GIMP user interface has many modes, for starters
> see the manual, chapter 4: 'Getting Unstuck'. These
> modes can be grouped into five main categories which
> build the basic image manipulation model:
>
> tool type: pencil, airbrush, ...
> tool state:{color, gradient, brush, pattern}
> selection mask:empty, some pixels, all pixels
> channel mask:  RGBA, R only, ...
> paint context: layer1, layer2, ...
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Re: [Gimp-developer] sorry

[Esteban Barahona]

2552/5/28 Alpár Jüttner 

> On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 08:36 -0600, Esteban Barahona wrote:
> > why?
>
>
> Firstly because it is completely off-topic and secondly because its
> offensive style hurts people who did not deserve it.
>
> Please be aware that by sending a single e-mail to a mailing list you
> litter hundreds of inboxes with your stupid thoughts. I did not do
> anything wrong for you, so please respect me (and all the list
> subscribers) by not involving us into your personal problems.
>
> Regards,
> Alpar
>
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Re: [Gimp-developer] sorry

[Alpár Jüttner]

On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 08:36 -0600, Esteban Barahona wrote:
> why?


Firstly because it is completely off-topic and secondly because its
offensive style hurts people who did not deserve it.

Please be aware that by sending a single e-mail to a mailing list you
litter hundreds of inboxes with your stupid thoughts. I did not do
anything wrong for you, so please respect me (and all the list
subscribers) by not involving us into your personal problems.

Regards,
Alpar



> 2009/5/28 Alpár Jüttner 
> Stop this thread, please.
> 
> Alpar
> 
> 
> On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 04:39 -0600, Esteban Barahona wrote:
> > what master? and what the f_ do you know about samādhi? ever
> heard of
> > anapanasati? maitri, mudita, karuna, upeksa, om and ahimsa
> as mantras
> > mean anything to you?
> >
> > yeah... follow rules, "thou shall not speak in flamespeak
> with obvious
> > egocentric one trick bunnies."
> >
> > i speak in whatever vernacular you are using.
> >
> > i was treated as an outsider by default, a "l-user"... well,
> my memes
> > will last much, much, much longer than yours... in fact... i
> am
> > preserving memes with ~2552 years of existance... coding is
> > fashionable now.
> >
> > eat whatever flesh (was going to say shit, which isn't much
> different)
> > you want alex prouku... 'cuss i am a proud vegan.
> >
> > read this:
> > http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/dn/dn.02.0.than.html
> >
> > and THEN, talk to me again about meditation
> >
> > 2552/5/28 Alexandre Prokoudine
> 
> > 2009/5/28 Esteban Barahona wrote:
> > > it is on paper first, i am no show-off... i am
> legit... and
> > my priority
> > > number zero is meditation.
> > > nirvāna first over everything else...
> >
> >
> > Well, I hate to tell you but you really should focus
> on
> > meditation.
> > Just in case you were mislead by your tutor, nirvana
> is a
> > state of
> > absolute calmness and being out of the material
> world,
> > breaking up all
> > the cause-and-effect connection with carmic
> existance. Which
> > is
> > clearly not the case for you, since you off your
> email is
> > about cause
> > and effect.
> >
> > Keep practicing, I say.
> >
> > Alexandre
> >
> 
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[Gimp-developer] user interface modes

[yahvuu]

hi all,

here's a description of GIMP's basic image manipulation model
from a UI point of view that i'd like to share:
http://yahvuu.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/gimpmodes1.pdf

This is intended as inspiration for user interface thoughts
rather than being thorough documentation. Originally planned
for the brainstorm, it just didn't work without some words..

A summary in ASCII follows below.
Feedback is highly appreciated.


enjoy,
peter




The GIMP user interface has many modes, for starters
see the manual, chapter 4: 'Getting Unstuck'. These
modes can be grouped into five main categories which
build the basic image manipulation model:

tool type: pencil, airbrush, ...
tool state:{color, gradient, brush, pattern}
selection mask:empty, some pixels, all pixels
channel mask:  RGBA, R only, ...
paint context: layer1, layer2, ...
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Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-gap 2.6 ahead

[saulgoode]

Quoting "Alchemie foto\grafiche" :

> there is not text is your message, if was a link that was stripped away
>
> There is now a new version of GAP available ?

Wolfgang's message contained an attachment which announced the following:

A 2.6.0 release of the GIMP Animation package in about a week.

It will contain improvements in storyboard editing and processing and  
video encoding that now was updated to use ffmpeg0.5 as main engine  
for encoding and decoding vedeofiles.

Lots of fixes have been done to make GAP work better with the GIMP 2.6  
release.

Developers and users, please give the gap-2-6 branch some testing and  
make sure that any problems are reported at bugzilla.gnome.org for the  
gimp-gap product.

Translators, please update the information on l10n.gnome.org and help  
us to ship gimp-gap 2.6.0 with lots of uptodate translations.

Thanks a lot for your attention.



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Re: [Gimp-developer] sorry

[Esteban Barahona]

lol... sure, if by waited you meant spending 3 years with all dreams besides
nirvāna on hold as background processes... wtf?! ...i don't have to probe
anything to anyone! that's the beauty of it all... i didn't did it 3 years
ago because i couldn't do it... i didn't did it 3 years ago because i didn't
WANT to... and because if i didn't do it right then, i could do it much
better NOW! and because i was learning

...people are so insecure, online and offline... they cann't see someone
actually HAPPY!

bodigami; using a mac since january 22 of the year '22 (the year i had 22
years, which in the buddhist era is 2551)... yeah, i chose mac os x as
operating system (no pirated copy of windows xp since some months ago! no
linux distro of the month installed!); and am fully aware of the possible
consequences... yii... it's now a safe time to get off the f_ computer, turn
it off, unplug the ethernet cable (paranoid level of security buddie)...
almost 2 whole nights without sleeping! not a fourth, there will not be a
fourth sychotic crisis... you don't know me pal, get the f_ off if you want
to fight... flame away troll... you don't get it.

what? you imagined a samyak-samsam-buddha (lol, Tool.band) to be a typical
indian stereotype of buddhist monk! hell no! buddha-buddie-bunnie prefered
to learn italian than continue in computer science (25% of career completed,
~50% avarage score... sure, i chosed NOT to study for some tests... just put
the name on it... get out... and meditate on a f_ tree =)... but now i am
BACK!

8 cores, ternary, hexadecimal, decimal native computer... baby... it's a bit
overclocked, that's why it's submerged in liquid oxygen... like a laboratory
rat (poor laboratory rats... lol, rats walking in 2 feet testing rats
walking in all 4s... i am "impressed")...

when i was an unenlightened boddhisattva... yeah right, my past lifes are
encrypted... i am no show-off, i am legit.

wanna test that LSD, psychiatry is crap... it didn't cure me... i cured
myself; with meditation only... no meds now... yeah... LCD for now + iTunes
classic visualization + my favorite music (some pirated; 2872 songs...
exactly)... my play-list :lol:

2552/5/28 Alexia Death 

>
>
> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Alpár Jüttner  wrote:
>
>> Stop this thread, please.
>
>
> Aww... and it was just getting fun. Trolling trolls always is.
>
> Esteban, for 3 years you WAITED, instead of actually fixing stuff you don't
> like. You claim to be able to... I dare to doubt it.
>
> Those that can, do. Those that can't keep wailing how everybody else is
> keeping them from greatness.
>
> Peace be with you, brother.
>
> --Alexia
>
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[Gimp-developer] gimp-gap 2.6 ahead

[Alchemie foto\grafiche]

there is not text is your message, if was a link that was stripped away

There is now a new version of GAP available ?


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Re: [Gimp-developer] sorry

[Esteban Barahona]

why?

2009/5/28 Alpár Jüttner 

> Stop this thread, please.
>
> Alpar
>
> On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 04:39 -0600, Esteban Barahona wrote:
> > what master? and what the f_ do you know about samādhi? ever heard of
> > anapanasati? maitri, mudita, karuna, upeksa, om and ahimsa as mantras
> > mean anything to you?
> >
> > yeah... follow rules, "thou shall not speak in flamespeak with obvious
> > egocentric one trick bunnies."
> >
> > i speak in whatever vernacular you are using.
> >
> > i was treated as an outsider by default, a "l-user"... well, my memes
> > will last much, much, much longer than yours... in fact... i am
> > preserving memes with ~2552 years of existance... coding is
> > fashionable now.
> >
> > eat whatever flesh (was going to say shit, which isn't much different)
> > you want alex prouku... 'cuss i am a proud vegan.
> >
> > read this:
> > http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/dn/dn.02.0.than.html
> >
> > and THEN, talk to me again about meditation
> >
> > 2552/5/28 Alexandre Prokoudine 
> > 2009/5/28 Esteban Barahona wrote:
> > > it is on paper first, i am no show-off... i am legit... and
> > my priority
> > > number zero is meditation.
> > > nirvāna first over everything else...
> >
> >
> > Well, I hate to tell you but you really should focus on
> > meditation.
> > Just in case you were mislead by your tutor, nirvana is a
> > state of
> > absolute calmness and being out of the material world,
> > breaking up all
> > the cause-and-effect connection with carmic existance. Which
> > is
> > clearly not the case for you, since you off your email is
> > about cause
> > and effect.
> >
> > Keep practicing, I say.
> >
> > Alexandre
> >
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Re: [Gimp-developer] sorry

[Esteban Barahona]

rofl

2009/5/28 Jon Senior 

> On Thu, 28 May 2009 14:32:39 +0400
> Alexandre Prokoudine  wrote:
> > Well, I hate to tell you but you really should focus on meditation.
> > Just in case you were mislead by your tutor, nirvana is a state of
> > absolute calmness and being out of the material world, breaking up all
> > the cause-and-effect connection with carmic existance. Which is
> > clearly not the case for you, since you off your email is about cause
> > and effect.
>
> Like dude? Like... troll dude!
>
> --
> Jon Senior 
>
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[Gimp-developer] formatting patch

[Stephen Griffiths]

I just came across a chunk of code with mixed space/tab indenting and 
fixed it.  Hopefully posting it to the devel list is fine.


regards,
Stephen.
>From 8fe725d87a4709cb0461c6de8348cde449d076b8 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Stephen Griffiths 
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 22:52:41 +1000
Subject: [PATCH] app/widget/gimp uimanager.c formatting

---
 app/widgets/gimpuimanager.c |  106 ++-
 1 files changed, 54 insertions(+), 52 deletions(-)

diff --git a/app/widgets/gimpuimanager.c b/app/widgets/gimpuimanager.c
index 740b6f3..983ee4b 100644
--- a/app/widgets/gimpuimanager.c
+++ b/app/widgets/gimpuimanager.c
@@ -1068,61 +1068,63 @@ struct ChildLocation
 
 static void
 child_location_foreach (GtkWidget *child,
-			gpointer   data)
+gpointer   data)
 {
   gint x, y;
   struct ChildLocation *child_loc = data;
 
   /* Ignore invisible widgets */
-  if (!GTK_WIDGET_DRAWABLE (child))
+  if (! GTK_WIDGET_DRAWABLE (child))
 return;
 
   /* (child_loc->x, child_loc->y) are relative to
* child_loc->container's allocation.
*/
 
-  if (!child_loc->child &&
+  if (! child_loc->child &&
   gtk_widget_translate_coordinates (child_loc->container, child,
-	child_loc->x, child_loc->y,
-	&x, &y))
+child_loc->x, child_loc->y,
+&x, &y))
 {
 #ifdef DEBUG_TOOLTIP
   g_print ("candidate: %s  alloc=[(%d,%d)  %dx%d] (%d, %d)->(%d, %d)\n",
-	   gtk_widget_get_name (child),
-	   child->allocation.x,
-	   child->allocation.y,
-	   child->allocation.width,
-	   child->allocation.height,
-	   child_loc->x, child_loc->y,
-	   x, y);
+   gtk_widget_get_name (child),
+   child->allocation.x,
+   child->allocation.y,
+   child->allocation.width,
+   child->allocation.height,
+   child_loc->x, child_loc->y,
+   x, y);
 #endif /* DEBUG_TOOLTIP */
 
   /* (x, y) relative to child's allocation. */
   if (x >= 0 && x < child->allocation.width
-	  && y >= 0 && y < child->allocation.height)
+  && y >= 0 && y < child->allocation.height)
 {
-	  if (GTK_IS_CONTAINER (child))
-	{
-	  struct ChildLocation tmp = { NULL, NULL, 0, 0 };
-
-	  /* Take (x, y) relative the child's allocation and
-	   * recurse.
-	   */
-	  tmp.x = x;
-	  tmp.y = y;
-	  tmp.container = child;
-
-	  gtk_container_forall (GTK_CONTAINER (child),
-child_location_foreach, &tmp);
-
-	  if (tmp.child)
-		child_loc->child = tmp.child;
-	  else
-		child_loc->child = child;
-	}
-	  else
-	child_loc->child = child;
-	}
+  if (GTK_IS_CONTAINER (child))
+{
+  struct ChildLocation tmp = { NULL, NULL, 0, 0 };
+
+  /* Take (x, y) relative the child's allocation and
+   * recurse.
+   */
+  tmp.x = x;
+  tmp.y = y;
+  tmp.container = child;
+
+  gtk_container_forall (GTK_CONTAINER (child),
+child_location_foreach, &tmp);
+
+  if (tmp.child)
+child_loc->child = tmp.child;
+  else
+child_loc->child = child;
+}
+  else
+{
+  child_loc->child = child;
+}
+}
 }
 }
 
@@ -1131,13 +1133,13 @@ child_location_foreach (GtkWidget *child,
  */
 static void
 window_to_alloc (GtkWidget *dest_widget,
-		 gint   src_x,
-		 gint   src_y,
-		 gint  *dest_x,
-		 gint  *dest_y)
+ gint   src_x,
+ gint   src_y,
+ gint  *dest_x,
+ gint  *dest_y)
 {
   /* Translate from window relative to allocation relative */
-  if (!GTK_WIDGET_NO_WINDOW (dest_widget) && dest_widget->parent)
+  if (! GTK_WIDGET_NO_WINDOW (dest_widget) && dest_widget->parent)
 {
   gint wx, wy;
   gdk_window_get_position (gtk_widget_get_window (dest_widget), &wx, &wy);
@@ -1162,21 +1164,21 @@ window_to_alloc (GtkWidget *dest_widget,
 
 static GtkWidget *
 find_widget_under_pointer (GdkWindow *window,
-			   gint  *x,
-			   gint  *y)
+   gint  *x,
+   gint  *y)
 {
   GtkWidget *event_widget;
   struct ChildLocation child_loc = { NULL, NULL, 0, 0 };
 
   gdk_window_get_user_data (window, (void **)&event_widget);
 
-  if (!event_widget)
+  if (! event_widget)
 return NULL;
 
 #ifdef DEBUG_TOOLTIP
   g_print ("event window %p (belonging to %p (%s))  (%d, %d)\n",
-	   window, event_widget, gtk_widget_get_name (event_widget),
-	   *x, *y);
+   window, event_widget, gtk_widget_get_name (event_widget),
+   *x, *y);
 #endif
 
   /* Coordinates are relative to event window */
@@ -1210,8 +1212,8 @@ find_widget_under_pointer (GdkWindow *wind

Re: [Gimp-developer] sorry

[Alexia Death]

On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Alpár Jüttner  wrote:

> Stop this thread, please.


Aww... and it was just getting fun. Trolling trolls always is.

Esteban, for 3 years you WAITED, instead of actually fixing stuff you don't
like. You claim to be able to... I dare to doubt it.

Those that can, do. Those that can't keep wailing how everybody else is
keeping them from greatness.

Peace be with you, brother.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Wanted: Gimp Modification for Kids Product

[Alexandre Prokoudine]

On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 12:12 AM, Andrew A. Gill wrote:

> I'm not sure about TuxPaint

I am, in opposite, very sure about Tuxpaint. We've tried it in schools
here and it's really good for younger pupils.

Alexandre
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Re: [Gimp-developer] sorry

[Alpár Jüttner]

Stop this thread, please.

Alpar

On Thu, 2009-05-28 at 04:39 -0600, Esteban Barahona wrote:
> what master? and what the f_ do you know about samādhi? ever heard of
> anapanasati? maitri, mudita, karuna, upeksa, om and ahimsa as mantras
> mean anything to you?
> 
> yeah... follow rules, "thou shall not speak in flamespeak with obvious
> egocentric one trick bunnies."
> 
> i speak in whatever vernacular you are using.
> 
> i was treated as an outsider by default, a "l-user"... well, my memes
> will last much, much, much longer than yours... in fact... i am
> preserving memes with ~2552 years of existance... coding is
> fashionable now.
> 
> eat whatever flesh (was going to say shit, which isn't much different)
> you want alex prouku... 'cuss i am a proud vegan.
> 
> read this:
> http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/dn/dn.02.0.than.html
> 
> and THEN, talk to me again about meditation
> 
> 2552/5/28 Alexandre Prokoudine 
> 2009/5/28 Esteban Barahona wrote:
> > it is on paper first, i am no show-off... i am legit... and
> my priority
> > number zero is meditation.
> > nirvāna first over everything else...
> 
> 
> Well, I hate to tell you but you really should focus on
> meditation.
> Just in case you were mislead by your tutor, nirvana is a
> state of
> absolute calmness and being out of the material world,
> breaking up all
> the cause-and-effect connection with carmic existance. Which
> is
> clearly not the case for you, since you off your email is
> about cause
> and effect.
> 
> Keep practicing, I say.
> 
> Alexandre
> 
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Re: [Gimp-developer] sorry

[Jon Senior]

On Thu, 28 May 2009 14:32:39 +0400
Alexandre Prokoudine  wrote:
> Well, I hate to tell you but you really should focus on meditation.
> Just in case you were mislead by your tutor, nirvana is a state of
> absolute calmness and being out of the material world, breaking up all
> the cause-and-effect connection with carmic existance. Which is
> clearly not the case for you, since you off your email is about cause
> and effect.

Like dude? Like... troll dude!

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Re: [Gimp-developer] sorry

[Esteban Barahona]

i don't have to probe anything to anyone... i just chosed to; i could have
being just a passenger, just a silent observer.
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Re: [Gimp-developer] sorry

[Esteban Barahona]

what master? and what the f_ do you know about samādhi? ever heard of
anapanasati? maitri, mudita, karuna, upeksa, om and ahimsa as mantras mean
anything to you?

yeah... follow rules, "thou shall not speak in flamespeak with obvious
egocentric one trick bunnies."

i speak in whatever vernacular you are using.

i was treated as an outsider by default, a "l-user"... well, my memes will
last much, much, much longer than yours... in fact... i am preserving memes
with ~2552 years of existance... coding is fashionable now.

eat whatever flesh (was going to say shit, which isn't much different) you
want alex prouku... 'cuss i am a proud vegan.

read this:
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/dn/dn.02.0.than.html

and THEN, talk to me again about meditation

2552/5/28 Alexandre Prokoudine 

> 2009/5/28 Esteban Barahona wrote:
> > it is on paper first, i am no show-off... i am legit... and my priority
> > number zero is meditation.
> > nirvāna first over everything else...
>
> Well, I hate to tell you but you really should focus on meditation.
> Just in case you were mislead by your tutor, nirvana is a state of
> absolute calmness and being out of the material world, breaking up all
> the cause-and-effect connection with carmic existance. Which is
> clearly not the case for you, since you off your email is about cause
> and effect.
>
> Keep practicing, I say.
>
> Alexandre
>
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Re: [Gimp-developer] sorry

[Alexandre Prokoudine]

2009/5/28 Esteban Barahona wrote:
> it is on paper first, i am no show-off... i am legit... and my priority
> number zero is meditation.
> nirvāna first over everything else...

Well, I hate to tell you but you really should focus on meditation.
Just in case you were mislead by your tutor, nirvana is a state of
absolute calmness and being out of the material world, breaking up all
the cause-and-effect connection with carmic existance. Which is
clearly not the case for you, since you off your email is about cause
and effect.

Keep practicing, I say.

Alexandre
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Re: [Gimp-developer] sorry

[Esteban Barahona]

i do music too, one trick ponnies/bunnies/monkeys.

I have come curiously close to the end, down
> Beneath my self-indulgent pitiful hole,
> Defeated, I concede and
> Move closer
> I may find comfort here
> I may find peace within the emptiness
> How pitiful
>
> It's calling me...
>
> And in my darkest moment, fetal and weeping
> The moon tells me a secret - my confidant
> As full and bright as I am
> This light is not my own and
> A million light reflections pass over me
>
> Its source is bright and endless
> She resuscitates the hopeless
> Without her, we are lifeless satellites drifting
>
> And as I pull my head out I am without one doubt
> Don't wanna be down here feeding my narcissism.
> I must crucify the ego before it's far too late
> I pray the light lifts me out
> Before I pine away.
>
> So crucify the ego, before it's far too late
> To leave behind this place so negative and blind and cynical,
> And you will come to find that we are all one mind
> Capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable.
> Just let the light touch you
> And let the words spill through
> And let them pass right through
> Bringing out our hope and reason ...
> before we pine away.
>
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Re: [Gimp-developer] sorry

[Esteban Barahona]

Michael Schumacher, it will be nice to kill your ego
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Re: [Gimp-developer] sorry

[Esteban Barahona]

it is on paper first, i am no show-off... i am legit... and my priority
number zero is meditation.
nirvāna first over everything else...

not a single sensible contribution was because i wasn't able to come up with
some code? ...i have ideas for interfaces, ideas that were drawn but not
scanned... if i have to implement all those ideas, then fine... but that
will just probe how high is the barrier of entry for design-oriented
coders...

either way, thans for the luck... i just don't want to take up more crap,
from anyone either online or offline... emotion my _

2009/5/28 Alexandre Prokoudine 

> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Esteban Barahona wrote:
> > i didn't felt welcomed in your open source project.
> > you lost 1 very valuable hacker...
>
> That's what I heard from you two or three years ago in the Inkscape
> developers list. Not a single sensible contribution and lots of
> pointless emotions.
>
> Best of luck to you.
>
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Re: [Gimp-developer] sorry

[Michael Schumacher]

> Von: Alexandre Prokoudine 

> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Esteban Barahona wrote:
> > i didn't felt welcomed in your open source project.
> > you lost 1 very valuable hacker...
> 
> That's what I heard from you two or three years ago in the Inkscape
> developers list. Not a single sensible contribution and lots of
> pointless emotions.

Ah, it's good to see such mails put into the correct perspective.

> Best of luck to you.

Let's hope that this luck does induce changes that will spare other projects 
from his current attitude :)


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Re: [Gimp-developer] sorry

[Alexandre Prokoudine]

On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Esteban Barahona wrote:
> i didn't felt welcomed in your open source project.
> you lost 1 very valuable hacker...

That's what I heard from you two or three years ago in the Inkscape
developers list. Not a single sensible contribution and lots of
pointless emotions.

Best of luck to you.

Alexandre
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[Gimp-developer] sorry

[Esteban Barahona]

i didn't felt welcomed in your open source project.
you lost 1 very valuable hacker...
one of the few hackers of interfaces (of hardware and sofware =)
...in fact, the first one.

ow, la vendetta è un piato che se serve fredo.

i am a darwin kernel developer and will make a 100% open source (up to the
interface) fork of macintosh =)

see, in that project hackers welcome each others as peers...
here... you are too elitist for a mediocre product.
linux too... i won't be basing my project on an ego-project (see name of
project) which is nothing more than a functional copy of minix + gnu (not
bad, but not that good either... linux distro hell)... when BSD was
active?

in my gallery  the best photomanipulations
and textures were made with a (pirated) copy of photoshop 9.0 (sorry adobe,
your product costs an -eye-ball and a half... you -adobe- are the
pirates/thieves; i won't pay more than $150 for a full copy of photoshop...
corel painter essentials works wonders)

gimp doesn't even have a decent mac version...
~3 years i waited... and none substantial improvements.

i will be using photoshop elements for mac os x 10.5
the price is right; free software is a gospel... open source is about
solutions.

good bye gimp.app, goodbye seashore... you both don't deserve space in my
dock.
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