[Gimp-developer] I only have Gimp 2.6.7 binaries
Von: David G. for...@gimpusers.com In another Gimp related issue, in mi new Windows Vista machine Gimp 2.6.7 crashes the graphic card driver a lot when I activate a selection markee. Nvidia has corrected the bug in at least some of their drivers, you might want to check for updates. I think that it had been XP in the cases I've read about, though. On a side note, I had a very hard time convincing users that this kind of problem (display flickers when using a selection in GIMP with a very specific Nvidia card, and others don't have the same problem) is something that should be reported to Nvidia. They insisted that the problem has to be in GIMP... Don't be afraid to send reports about bug you've encountered to any company, insitution, service, ... . If they never hear about it, they can't fix it. HTH, Michael Update: I checked again in the Nvidia site and there was a driver update shortly after I installed the most recent I could find there meaning that I downloaded the newest drivers at about the first week of August and when I checked after this last post I saw that Nvidia had posted new drivers on the 20th of August so I downloaded and installed those and the bug seems to be gone, I have not noticed the screen flashing anymore when I activate the selection markee and the problem happened happened fairly quickly after doing that and the GPU has not reported that it has crashed and recovered again so I think that it was definitely a driver problem, great! I can use my Gimp again!! -- David G. (via www.gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] I only have Gimp 2.6.7 binaries
Well the last drivers I downloaded was about three weeks ago so I think that it may be too early too check, perhaps in a month or two and yes I did think too that it could be an Nvidia driver problem and if a lot of users using other graphic cards are not having the same problem that's more reason to suspect. Von: David G. for...@gimpusers.com In another Gimp related issue, in mi new Windows Vista machine Gimp 2.6.7 crashes the graphic card driver a lot when I activate a selection markee. Nvidia has corrected the bug in at least some of their drivers, you might want to check for updates. I think that it had been XP in the cases I've read about, though. On a side note, I had a very hard time convincing users that this kind of problem (display flickers when using a selection in GIMP with a very specific Nvidia card, and others don't have the same problem) is something that should be reported to Nvidia. They insisted that the problem has to be in GIMP... Don't be afraid to send reports about bug you've encountered to any company, insitution, service, ... . If they never hear about it, they can't fix it. HTH, Michael -- David G. (via www.gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] I only have Gimp 2.6.7 binaries
Yes I know, but those are beta releases and many people say that using the text tool crashes their Gimp 2.7 a lot. As a general rule I avoid beta software, not always but most of the time because I usually rather wait for the stable release. I don't mind waiting a bit longer for the new single entry in the task bar feature, right now I'm more concern with the graphic card issue with the selection markee, I will report that to Nvidia just in case. If it turns out to be a bug with the graphic driver instead of Gimp the more users with this problem that report it to Nvidia the merrier. On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 10:26 AM, David G.for...@gimpusers.com wrote: To SorinN: I use Windows (Vista 64 bit and XP) and I only have Gimp 2.6.7 so far which is the one that is available for Windows now, if Gimp 2.7 creates a Behold: http://www.gimptalk.com/forum/gimp-2-7-beta,-last-stable-is-2-6-7-also-for-windows-t37771.html Yea, verily. David -- David G. (via www.gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] I only have Gimp 2.6.7 binaries
To SorinN: I use Windows (Vista 64 bit and XP) and I only have Gimp 2.6.7 so far which is the one that is available for Windows now, if Gimp 2.7 creates a single entry in the taskbar and all the Windows minimize when you minimize one that's great for me, the multiple windows thing and being able to put them anywhere you want doesn't bother me, like I said it's just that I think that a single entry in the task bar becomes much easier to manage in a multi application workflow. Again if Gimp 2.7 fixes this that will be great. In another Gimp related issue, in mi new Windows Vista machine Gimp 2.6.7 crashes the graphic card driver a lot when I activate a selection markee. When I activate a selection markee the graphics driver starts to have problems and starts to flicker and shortly after that the Nvidia cards reports to me that the graphics system has crashed and that it has been recovered. Luckily this recovery system seems to be pretty solid in my graphics card system otherwise I would have a lot of Vista crashes because of this. I Have Windows Vista Ultimate 64 Bit running in a Intel core i7 CPU and two Evga 260 GTX graphic cards running in SLI mode with 12 gigas of DDR3 memory, when I first installed Gimp in this machine it crashed a lot when I tried to use color correction tools like Brighness and Contrast adjustments, as soon as I tried to use one of those Gimp crashed but when it was updated to version 2.6.7 that was totally fixed (that bug was giving a lot of people problems cause I found out online) but I still have the selection markee issue that makes the graphic system unstable quickly, any ideas about what could be causing this? In my XP machines it works just fine. I personally, deffinitely prefer the Gimp being a program that always shows as a single entry in the taskbar that's really my main concern, it's just easier to manage single entry programs with a multiple applications workflow. But GIMP 2.7 solve that. Maybe you don't use 2.7. A single entry in taskbar and when the canvas window is minimized all other utility windows are minimized too. 2009/9/6 Ramon Miranda mirandagrap...@gmail.com: David G said always opened like this and Gimp already has the ability to save it's layout too. Photoshop allowed this perfectly and still was a single window program. i would like to have also the ability so save my workspace and change inside the gimp from. for example. paint workspace to a photoretouch space . instead having different sessionrc and quiting gimp to change the workspace. i hope you will understand me. 2009/9/6 David G. for...@gimpusers.com I like modular structures becouse they allows more custom changes. So this way you can change your layout of panels. But if all it would be in a single window , ithink lot of users would thanks that. becouse i hear a lot... Gimp is nice , but his gui is ugly and uncomfortable.i don?t like to see a lot of panels flying through my desktop Lets give it a try to a single window mode 2009/9/5 Martin Nordholts ense...@gmail.com On 09/05/2009 06:22 PM, Richard Nespithal wrote: A single-window mode would also turn 2.8 into a remarkable release is it possible, to switch back to multi-window mode in 2.8? That is not really relevant to this thread. (But yes of course it will be possible.) / Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer I don't know why people mention so much that if you create a single window Gimp that that it will not allow you to put your tools in a second monitor because I used Photoshop also many times and despite it being a single window program it allows you to put the toolbox and the parameter windows (or at least it did in some older versions) in a separate monitor and leave the main program window all for editing pictures if that's what people wanted. You coul also save the workspace layout so Photoshop always opened like this and Gimp already has the ability to save it's layout too. Photoshop allowed this perfectly and still was a single window program. If that's the concern of people then perhaps Gimp should become a single windows program that allows this, that allows you to put the toolbox and the right utilities window in a separate monitor while still preserving a single box or entry in the taskbar. In my opinion having a single entry in the taskbar is much better because it's far less messy, the biggest problem with the multiple entries interface is that some people seem to think that everybody opens Gimp only here and there and ocasioanlly and they are not thinking of the profesional users that use Gimp seriously (and yes it is a powerfull program already and it can be used seriously) and some people seem to be forgetting that some people
[Gimp-developer] We should go for a single-window mode in 2.8
I like modular structures becouse they allows more custom changes. So this way you can change your layout of panels. But if all it would be in a single window , ithink lot of users would thanks that. becouse i hear a lot... Gimp is nice , but his gui is ugly and uncomfortable.i don?t like to see a lot of panels flying through my desktop Lets give it a try to a single window mode 2009/9/5 Martin Nordholts ense...@gmail.com On 09/05/2009 06:22 PM, Richard Nespithal wrote: A single-window mode would also turn 2.8 into a remarkable release is it possible, to switch back to multi-window mode in 2.8? That is not really relevant to this thread. (But yes of course it will be possible.) / Martin -- My GIMP Blog: http://www.chromecode.com/ ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer I don't know why people mention so much that if you create a single window Gimp that that it will not allow you to put your tools in a second monitor because I used Photoshop also many times and despite it being a single window program it allows you to put the toolbox and the parameter windows (or at least it did in some older versions) in a separate monitor and leave the main program window all for editing pictures if that's what people wanted. You coul also save the workspace layout so Photoshop always opened like this and Gimp already has the ability to save it's layout too. Photoshop allowed this perfectly and still was a single window program. If that's the concern of people then perhaps Gimp should become a single windows program that allows this, that allows you to put the toolbox and the right utilities window in a separate monitor while still preserving a single box or entry in the taskbar. In my opinion having a single entry in the taskbar is much better because it's far less messy, the biggest problem with the multiple entries interface is that some people seem to think that everybody opens Gimp only here and there and ocasioanlly and they are not thinking of the profesional users that use Gimp seriously (and yes it is a powerfull program already and it can be used seriously) and some people seem to be forgetting that some people like me for example many, many times have several windows and applications running simultaneously and when I mean several I mean a lot, I find myself many times with 10 or 12 aplications and/or utilities or more open at the same time (with todays memorys and CPU power this is very possible and more common than some people think) and switching among them and believe me this is not uncommon for professional artists that are jumping from 3D to illustration to bitmap editor, video editing, Flash and/or a web page layout program or even more programs back and fort like a carrousel. In todays workflow you can find many users that work just like that instead of the persons that just open a bitmap editor ocasionally and the issue is that when you have a lot of windows of different programs open at the same time a program like Gimp can become a mess in the task bar in MS Windows or even in other Operating Systems. Sometimes when I'm working like that the taskbar is so full that it creates a second entry line and you have to switch between the first line of items or entries in the task bar and the secong and with Gimps it gets sort of confusing or anoying in that situation and I use Blender too which creates a second window for the command window and many times a third windows for the rendering window and then you get a mess. Programs that have a single entry in the task bar are far better for this type of workflow, they are easier to manage. Maybe the Gimp team should make a survey to see how many people prefer the single entry or single window program over the multiple ones. This issue of too many windows have been a source of complain of many, many Gimp users for long years and I think that it would be foolhardy to ignore and at the very least the Gimp team should consider making a survey to see how many people prefer the single window interface but remember what I told you at first about being able to put the toolbox pane and the right pane in other monitors despite the program being single window or single entry program. I think that part of the confussion comes precisely from the fact that the issue of being a single window program and a program that has a single entry in the task bar are really two separate things. I personally, deffinitely prefer the Gimp being a program that always shows as a single entry in the taskbar that's really my main concern, it's just easier to manage single entry programs with a multiple applications workflow. -- David G. (via www.gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman
[Gimp-developer] GIMP to adopt this scripts
I'm still recollecting information of useful filters that could be added in GIMP official builds to the whole world. What I'm talking here is about http://sourceforge.net/projects/gimpfx-foundry/ I'm not going to list all of them but here are some common ones: Light and Shadow Directive: - Color Overlay - Drop Shadow (it's already on GIMP of course, but this one have more flexible controls) - Gradient Overlay - Inner Glow - Outer glow - Glow Selection Artistic: - Quick Sketch - Pastel Sketch - Pencil Sketch This is probably my suggestion list, there are also some very handy Photo effect helpers that are possible to add in the GIMP. I don't know if this GIMP FX Foundry is managed by one of the developers here, but it would be good to have some official releases with this common 'effects' for the general public who doesn't have knowledge about sourceforge, script-fus and technical stuff. Thanks, David -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/GIMP-to-adopt-this-scripts-tp16120294p16120294.html Sent from the Gimp Developer mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP to adopt this scripts
Regarding the cycle: Great idea, although it should be a little bit more open, lets say 'surveys'. It will save more time to you developers letting the user choose what features/filters/plug-ins should be implemented in the next version. Its kinda like cedega's way of managing popular games (if i remember correctly when I was a subscriber). If you could set up contacts to all the OSes that distributes GIMP(either by e-mail, or adding a big splash that captures the user, sending via mailing lists) with the survey I'm pretty sure you get a well-defined answer on where to aim. Another thing is that I kinda go with the gegl implementation on some things, then again I don't know if this is a place to propose this to gegl although. (same developers?) so if any mistakes were made then most users wouldn't even need to update the gimp, but gegl. (i don't know if I'm correct, just a hunch) I like to point out again that I'm not a developer or know any programming language. - David -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/GIMP-to-adopt-this-scripts-tp16120294p16134675.html Sent from the Gimp Developer mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] Rotation for brushes
Add a option to rotate brushes to compliment the scaling. I don't know if this has been requested but it would be very helpful than creating a layer + using the rotation tool. This is a from http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=522705 -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Rotation-for-brushes-tp16075831p16075831.html Sent from the Gimp Developer mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Rotation for brushes
Bill Skaggs wrote: David G. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Add a option to rotate brushes to compliment the scaling. I don't know if this has been requested but it would be very helpful than creating a layer + using the rotation tool. Wouldn't be all that hard to do. How often do you think this would be used? What kind of brushes would you want to use it for? -- Bill ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer Alright, I'll try to be brief as possible. I proposed this because it will actually boost the simplicity of managing brushes to adapt in effects and splashes, instead of doing the layer and rotation technique. There are so many floral/grunge/splatter brushes that have been added in the GIMP. (ex http://gimp-tutorials.net/vinal-gimp-brushes ) How often will it be used? Well that's hard to calculate, globally speaking. An artist/amateur/customizer will probably use this, I dare to say they would use the rotation a lot. Maybe in the eyes of a developer this might be considered 'bloat'. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Rotation-for-brushes-tp16075831p16086105.html Sent from the Gimp Developer mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
