Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Color Management was GEGL development/gimp integration

2005-01-31 Thread Francisco Bernal
The idea is to be able to use different color management systems and not to restrict ourselves to lcms. Yes !! Please. We should have the possibility to decide if use one or other CMS. /*--*/ Francisco Bernal Rosso Webpage at:

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Color Management was GEGL development/gimp integration

2005-01-16 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Hal V. Engel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - default cmyk-profile (is later used to convert RGB-CMYK) I guess that this is for the printer? Since all of my printers are logically RGB devices (the drivers expect RGB input) I am not sure how useful this is to me but for others it might

[Gimp-developer] Re: Color Management was GEGL development/gimp integration

2005-01-15 Thread Gerhard Gaußling
Sven Neumann wrote: If we don't convert the image at load time, all plug-ins that change colors would have to be aware of the color-space the image is in. Since this is not the case for the time being, it would probably be a bad idea to not convert the image. As soon as we go further down the

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Color Management was GEGL development/gimp integration

2005-01-15 Thread David Neary
Hi Gerhard, Gerhard Gaußling wrote: I'm not a Programmer, but isn't it possible to make a plug-in which load's the icc information at a first step, to offer the user the ability to decide in which way he wants to handle the file regarding it's color space? It would be possible to do the

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Color Management was GEGL development/gimp integration

2005-01-15 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Gerhard Gauling [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think that the suggestions made by Hal V. Engel and Jan-Peter Homann (a well known color management consultant in Germany, afair also a member of the eci.org maillist, a very good resource for cms knowledge) are very important for a

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Color Management was GEGL development/gimp integration

2005-01-15 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ...Sven has expressed a desire that color management be kept out of the core in the past. You misunderstood me then. Managing colors does of course belong into the core but I would like to keep the implementation out of the core. The idea is to be

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Color Management was GEGL development/gimp integration

2005-01-15 Thread Hal V. Engel
On Saturday 15 January 2005 13:21, David Neary wrote: Hi Gerhard, Gerhard Gaußling wrote: I'm not a Programmer, but isn't it possible to make a plug-in which load's the icc information at a first step, to offer the user the ability to decide in which way he wants to handle the file

[Gimp-developer] Re: Color Management was GEGL development/gimp integration

2005-01-15 Thread Gerhard Gaußling
Hello Sven, thank you for your reply! Sven Neumann wrote: Gerhard Gaußling [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Okay, so I assume, that my (and Hal's and Jan-Peter's) suggestions have to wait for the release after GEGL? For a new rendering-engine further to GEGL? GIMP 3.0? Why? Almost everything

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Color Management was GEGL development/gimp integration

2005-01-15 Thread Alastair M. Robinson
Hi Gerhard, Gerhard Gaußling wrote: What kind of softproof is available? Hmm.. I can nothing similar find here. It took me a while to find it too - it's under the View - Display Filters. In the resulting dialog you can choose from a number of filters, including Colour Proof. When we were

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Color Management was GEGL development/gimp integration

2005-01-15 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Gerhard Gauling [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What kind of softproof is available? Hmm.. I can nothing similar find here. Go to View-Display Filters and enable the Display Proof filter. Please, I'm sorry for my sad english, and I hope this all doesn't sounds to rude. I wanted only spend

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Color Management was GEGL development/gimp integration

2005-01-15 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Alastair M. Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When we were discussing colour management a few months back, I hacked the Colour Proof filter to do a normal working-profile - monitor-profile transform, and it worked pretty well. Yes, it's a shame that you never submitted this for

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Color Management was GEGL development/gimp integration

2005-01-15 Thread Hal V. Engel
On Saturday 15 January 2005 17:37, Sven Neumann wrote: snip Let's try to implement this in small steps then. As a first step I would like to add a couple of options to the preferences to allow users to define default locations for color profiles, to enable/disable color management and to set a