Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Tentative 2.2 feature list

2004-02-25 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Ernst Lippe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > However our goal is to provide a way to add a preview to > > plug-ins basically w/o changing their code. > > It is an interesting idea, but when you look at the > requirements for the preview as they were discussed last > year (see http://refocus.s

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Tentative 2.2 feature list

2004-02-25 Thread Ernst Lippe
On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 16:00:08 +0100 Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Ernst Lippe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > The decision if the plug-in "needs" the temporary drawable > > is made by its designer and it is certainly not forced by > > the preview. It is perfectly possible to

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Tentative 2.2 feature list

2004-02-19 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Sven Neumann wrote: Ernst Lippe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: The decision if the plug-in "needs" the temporary drawable is made by its designer and it is certainly not forced by the preview. So you are seeing the GimpPreview as just a widget that plug-ins can draw on. However our goal is to pro

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Tentative 2.2 feature list

2004-02-19 Thread Ernst Lippe
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 16:19:06 +0100 Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Ernst Lippe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > No, the preview itself does not generate any temporary drawables. > > However there is a utility function for the plug-in to generate > > such temporary drawables, w

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Tentative 2.2 feature list

2004-02-19 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Ernst Lippe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The decision if the plug-in "needs" the temporary drawable > is made by its designer and it is certainly not forced by > the preview. It is perfectly possible to draw a row of > pixels on the preview (indeed for a very long period that > has been the

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Tentative 2.2 feature list

2004-02-18 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Ernst Lippe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > No, the preview itself does not generate any temporary drawables. > However there is a utility function for the plug-in to generate > such temporary drawables, when it finds that more convenient, > but in that case it is the responsibility of the plug

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Tentative 2.2 feature list

2004-02-18 Thread Ernst Lippe
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 13:51:40 +0100 Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Ernst Lippe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > http://refocus.sourceforge.net/preview/gimppreview.html > > > > The major points in the discussion were that some people did not like > > the way that the prelimi

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Tentative 2.2 feature list

2004-02-18 Thread Ernst Lippe
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 10:18:58 +0100 Dave Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Ernst Lippe wrote: > > Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>http://refocus.sourceforge.net/preview/gimppreview.html > > > > The major points in the discussion were that some people did not like > > the way

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Tentative 2.2 feature list

2004-02-18 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Ernst Lippe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > http://refocus.sourceforge.net/preview/gimppreview.html > > The major points in the discussion were that some people did not like > the way that the preliminary version of the preview tried to prevent > recursive updates and that the names did not

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Tentative 2.2 feature list

2004-02-18 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Ernst Lippe wrote: Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://refocus.sourceforge.net/preview/gimppreview.html The major points in the discussion were that some people did not like the way that the preliminary version of the preview tried to prevent recursive updates and that the names did

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Tentative 2.2 feature list

2004-02-17 Thread Ernst Lippe
On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 16:51:28 +0100 Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > David Odin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Anyway, this isn't clear in my mind for now. I'll propose a draft > > on this list as soon as I have more valuable thing to show. > > I hope you are aware that th

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Tentative 2.2 feature list

2004-02-08 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Juhana Sadeharju <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >What we are aiming for is a lot more complex than what GtkPreview is > >providing. The goal is to have a widget that can zoom and pan. It > >should also provide an API that allows to use the same image > >processing routines for the preview as a

[Gimp-developer] Re: Tentative 2.2 feature list

2004-02-08 Thread Juhana Sadeharju
>From: Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >What we are aiming for is a lot more complex than what GtkPreview is >providing. The goal is to have a widget that can zoom and pan. It >should also provide an API that allows to use the same image >processing routines for the preview as are used for the d

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Tentative 2.2 feature list

2004-02-06 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Dave Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm not sure what you mean by this - wouldn't the preview just be a > copy of the drawable which gets rendered? What API is needed? I have > trouble following the problems you see. I'm a bit confused now since we discussed all details of the widget se

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Tentative 2.2 feature list

2004-02-06 Thread David Odin
On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 04:51:28PM +0100, Sven Neumann wrote: > Hi, > > David Odin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Anyway, this isn't clear in my mind for now. I'll propose a draft > > on this list as soon as I have more valuable thing to show. > > I hope you are aware that there is an impl

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Tentative 2.2 feature list

2004-02-06 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, David Odin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Anyway, this isn't clear in my mind for now. I'll propose a draft > on this list as soon as I have more valuable thing to show. I hope you are aware that there is an implementation already. We were not happy with the API and some implementation det

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Tentative 2.2 feature list

2004-02-06 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Sven Neumann wrote: David Odin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: What we are aiming for is a lot more complex than what GtkPreview is providing. The goal is to have a widget that can zoom and pan. This would be cool. It should also provide an API that allows to use the same image processing routine

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Tentative 2.2 feature list

2004-02-06 Thread David Odin
On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 04:02:37PM +0100, Sven Neumann wrote: > Hi, > > David Odin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > It looks so. While it is true that GtkPreview has been deprecated > > without a replacement widget without a good reason (in my opinion, and > > obviously in Sven's opinion too),

[Gimp-developer] Re: Tentative 2.2 feature list

2004-02-06 Thread David Odin
On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 03:45:21PM +0100, Sven Neumann wrote: > Hi, > > David Odin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > To be more precise, since the GTK+ team has deprecated GtkPreview, > > I would have like to see if the gimp couldn't have its own widget > > for this. I won't promise it will be

Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Tentative 2.2 feature list

2004-02-06 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, David Odin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It looks so. While it is true that GtkPreview has been deprecated > without a replacement widget without a good reason (in my opinion, and > obviously in Sven's opinion too), GimpOldPreview is much more than only > a wrapper around GtkPreview. Beside

[Gimp-developer] Re: Tentative 2.2 feature list

2004-02-06 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, David Odin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > To be more precise, since the GTK+ team has deprecated GtkPreview, > I would have like to see if the gimp couldn't have its own widget > for this. I won't promise it will be done on time, though. Let's put > this on the "maybe included" list. GtkPre

[Gimp-developer] Re: Tentative 2.2 feature list

2004-02-06 Thread David Odin
On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 01:16:28PM +0100, David Neary wrote: > > Hi, > > Sven Neumann wrote: > >Dave Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>As a matter of interest, why do we not simply take the old GtkPreview > >>code an rename it GimpPreview, put it in libgimpwidgets and use that? > >>Just wonde

[Gimp-developer] Re: Tentative 2.2 feature list

2004-02-06 Thread David Odin
On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 12:38:33PM +0100, David Neary wrote: > > >>5) Preview widget to replace GimpOldPreview > > > >That's a rather large change. If we get someone interested and a > >proposal for an implementation is posted early enough, then it should > >probably go in. > > David Odin has sai