Re: [Gimp-developer] Using GIMP from my own program
Hi, On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 6:15 AM, Pablo Yaggi wrote: > Now I have my script running, It's a simple script that produces the > > table-mirror effect apple does, but is it possible to check whether > > the interface is available or not, I mean if gimp is running with -i mode > > (no interface). No, there is no reliable way to do that AFAIK. > > Also, the script resizes the original image, is it possible to change the > > actual zoom from inside the script? how ? No. In python scripting this is possible using software like 'xdotool', but not in script-fu (because there is no command to shell out and run another command). After looking at your script, I suggest you also use '--no-data' commandline parameter to GIMP to cut down on memory usage and startup time, since you don't appear to use any brushes/gradients etc in your script. David -- "I must create a system or be enslaved by another man's; I will not reason and compare: my business is to create" -- William Blake ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Using GIMP from my own program
Now I have my script running, It's a simple script that produces the table-mirror effect apple does, but is it possible to check whether the interface is available or not, I mean if gimp is running with -i mode (no interface). Also, the script resizes the original image, is it possible to change the actual zoom from inside the script? how ? Bests, Pablo On Tuesday 16 December 2008 15:45:15 saulgo...@flashingtwelve.brickfilms.com wrote: > Quoting Pablo Yaggi : > > Ok, I made it work, I just replaced newlayer for newimage in the > > gimp-edit-paste call and it worked. > > But pasting into the image should work, shouldn't ?, do I have > > to set up a current layer or something ? > > There is no "paste-as-new-layer" function provided as such by the PDB > interface (though there is a menu command for that) and so you must > perform a couple of separate functions to achieve the same result. > > You do not need to set up a current layer, but you need to perform a > 'gimp-floating-sel-to-layer' after your 'gimp-edit-paste'. This will > result in a new layer at the top of the layerstack -- unlike the menu > command, which places the new layer above the active layer -- and > therefore it does not matter which layer (or drawable) is active at > the time the paste is performed. > > If you instead wish the resulting new layer to appear just above the > current layer then you will need to make note of the current layer's > position (using 'gimp-image-get-layer-position') and lower the pasted > layer accordingly (using 'gimp-image-lower-layer' the appropriate > number of times). > > > > ___ > Gimp-developer mailing list > Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Using GIMP from my own program
Quoting Pablo Yaggi : > Ok, I made it work, I just replaced newlayer for newimage in the > gimp-edit-paste call and it worked. > But pasting into the image should work, shouldn't ?, do I have > to set up a current layer or something ? There is no "paste-as-new-layer" function provided as such by the PDB interface (though there is a menu command for that) and so you must perform a couple of separate functions to achieve the same result. You do not need to set up a current layer, but you need to perform a 'gimp-floating-sel-to-layer' after your 'gimp-edit-paste'. This will result in a new layer at the top of the layerstack -- unlike the menu command, which places the new layer above the active layer -- and therefore it does not matter which layer (or drawable) is active at the time the paste is performed. If you instead wish the resulting new layer to appear just above the current layer then you will need to make note of the current layer's position (using 'gimp-image-get-layer-position') and lower the pasted layer accordingly (using 'gimp-image-lower-layer' the appropriate number of times). ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Using GIMP from my own program
Ok, I made it work, I just replaced newlayer for newimage in the
gimp-edit-paste call and it worked.
But pasting into the image should work, shouldn't ?, do I have
to set up a current layer or something ?
bests,
Pablo
On Tuesday 16 December 2008 12:52:49 Pablo Yaggi wrote:
> Well, following all advices I decide to make the plugins I need for gimp,
> and use it in batch mode, this way plugins will be available for everybody.
> But my first attempt is not working fine, I'm coping/pasting the following
> code into the script-fu console, and I get a black image as glam-out.jpg
> with correct size, could you tell me why ?,
> (this is a test that should make an image which is double in height than
> input, and the upper half size has the input copied as is and the lower
> half size has the input copied rotated 180)
>
> (let* (
> (image (car(gimp-file-load 1 "/home/pablo/glam.jpg"
> "/home/pablo/glam.jpg")))
> (width (car (gimp-image-width image)))
> (height (car (gimp-image-height image)))
> (newheight (* height 2))
> (newimage (car(gimp-image-new width newheight RGB)))
> (newlayer (car (gimp-layer-new newimage width newheight RGBA-IMAGE
> "Copy" 100 NORMAL-MODE)))
> )
> (gimp-context-push)
>
> (gimp-image-add-layer newimage newlayer -1)
> (gimp-drawable-set-visible newlayer TRUE)
> (gimp-selection-all image)
> (gimp-edit-copy-visible image)
> (gimp-rect-select newimage 0 0 width height CHANNEL-OP-ADD FALSE 0)
> (let ((floating-sel (car (gimp-edit-paste newimage FALSE
> (gimp-floating-sel-anchor floating-sel)
> )
> (gimp-selection-none newimage)
> (gimp-rect-select newimage 0 height width height CHANNEL-OP-ADD FALSE 0)
> (let ((floating-sel (car (gimp-edit-paste newimage FALSE
> (gimp-rotate floating-sel FALSE 180)
> (gimp-floating-sel-anchor floating-sel)
> )
> (gimp-file-save 1 newimage newlayer "/home/pablo/glam-out.jpg"
> "/home/pablo/glam-out.jpg")
>
> (gimp-context-pop)
> )
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
> Pablo
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday 14 December 2008 16:36:10 saulgo...@flashingtwelve.brickfilms.com
>
> wrote:
> > Quoting Pablo Yaggi :
> > > So ..., I think a couple of things are not clear to me about gimp,
> > > if plugins communicate with the core of gimp thought a pipe, I
> > > should be able to create a plugin to do what i want, even
> > > call other plugins, but could that plugin be executed from outside
> > > the core ?, ...
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> > > even so it is necesary that gimp is running before
> > > doing it ?
> >
> > Yes, if you want to use plug-ins or scripts then you will want GIMP to
> > be running (unless you want to reimplement all of the functionality of
> > handling those plug-ins using libgimp).
> >
> > > are the core and gui strict releated, i mean are the same
> > > thing? can the gui be down, and the core working ?
> >
> > Yes, you can execute GIMP without the GUI by passing the
> > '--no-interface' ('-i') option on the command line. Script-fu code can
> > be passed to GIMP on the command line as well, if you know what that
> > code is in advance. If you need a more interactive approach, you could
> > also have GIMP running in a server mode where Script-fu commands are
> > passed over TCP.
> >
> > > In other words, is it possible in any way to use gimp for
> > > automatic image processing/generating, because GEGL its very
> > > promissing but gimp is fully charged with plugins and tools,
> > > and It sould be very nice to use all that power for automatic
> > > process.
> >
> > First, I would propose that you investigate Imagemagick command line
> > tools ( http://www.imagemagick.org/ ) and see if they present a better
> > solution.
> >
> > Second, you should investigate using GEGL. It is particularly targeted
> > for the type of activity you are pursuing and your participation could
> > help advance its progress.
> >
> > If neither of those two options seem desirable then I would present
> > the following GIMP-based options:
> >
> > 1) Invoke GIMP from your C program, passing the commands you wish
> > executed as Script-fu in batch mode ('-b').
> >
> > 2) If you need lower level processing than provided by Script-fu,
> > write your code as a GIMP plug-in and invoke your plug-in from a batch
> > Script-fu command. Example:
> >gimp -i -b '(plug-in-pablos-function RUN-NONINTERACTIVE parameter1
> > parameter2)' -b '(quit 0)'
> >
> > 3) Run an interactive server, as briefly described in this ML posting:
> > (
> > http://flashingtwelve.brickfilms.com:2095/horde/imp/message.php?index=113
> >69 )
> >
> > 4) Write your code as a GIMP plug-in per the tutorial described here:
> > ( http://gimp.org/docs/plug-in/sect-essentials.html )
> >
> > however, you should register an 'init' procedure which invokes your
> > plug-in (perhaps passing it command line parameters).
> >
> > This will have the effect of your plug-in automatically being executed
> > when GIMP is run; therefore do NOT p
Re: [Gimp-developer] Using GIMP from my own program
Well, following all advices I decide to make the plugins I need for gimp,
and use it in batch mode, this way plugins will be available for everybody.
But my first attempt is not working fine, I'm coping/pasting the following
code into the script-fu console, and I get a black image as glam-out.jpg
with correct size, could you tell me why ?,
(this is a test that should make an image which is double in height than
input, and the upper half size has the input copied as is and the lower
half size has the input copied rotated 180)
(let* (
(image (car(gimp-file-load 1 "/home/pablo/glam.jpg"
"/home/pablo/glam.jpg")))
(width (car (gimp-image-width image)))
(height (car (gimp-image-height image)))
(newheight (* height 2))
(newimage (car(gimp-image-new width newheight RGB)))
(newlayer (car (gimp-layer-new newimage width newheight RGBA-IMAGE
"Copy" 100 NORMAL-MODE)))
)
(gimp-context-push)
(gimp-image-add-layer newimage newlayer -1)
(gimp-drawable-set-visible newlayer TRUE)
(gimp-selection-all image)
(gimp-edit-copy-visible image)
(gimp-rect-select newimage 0 0 width height CHANNEL-OP-ADD FALSE 0)
(let ((floating-sel (car (gimp-edit-paste newimage FALSE
(gimp-floating-sel-anchor floating-sel)
)
(gimp-selection-none newimage)
(gimp-rect-select newimage 0 height width height CHANNEL-OP-ADD FALSE 0)
(let ((floating-sel (car (gimp-edit-paste newimage FALSE
(gimp-rotate floating-sel FALSE 180)
(gimp-floating-sel-anchor floating-sel)
)
(gimp-file-save 1 newimage newlayer "/home/pablo/glam-out.jpg"
"/home/pablo/glam-out.jpg")
(gimp-context-pop)
)
Best Regards,
Pablo
On Sunday 14 December 2008 16:36:10 saulgo...@flashingtwelve.brickfilms.com
wrote:
> Quoting Pablo Yaggi :
> > So ..., I think a couple of things are not clear to me about gimp,
> > if plugins communicate with the core of gimp thought a pipe, I
> > should be able to create a plugin to do what i want, even
> > call other plugins, but could that plugin be executed from outside
> > the core ?, ...
>
> Yes.
>
> > even so it is necesary that gimp is running before
> > doing it ?
>
> Yes, if you want to use plug-ins or scripts then you will want GIMP to
> be running (unless you want to reimplement all of the functionality of
> handling those plug-ins using libgimp).
>
> > are the core and gui strict releated, i mean are the same
> > thing? can the gui be down, and the core working ?
>
> Yes, you can execute GIMP without the GUI by passing the
> '--no-interface' ('-i') option on the command line. Script-fu code can
> be passed to GIMP on the command line as well, if you know what that
> code is in advance. If you need a more interactive approach, you could
> also have GIMP running in a server mode where Script-fu commands are
> passed over TCP.
>
> > In other words, is it possible in any way to use gimp for
> > automatic image processing/generating, because GEGL its very
> > promissing but gimp is fully charged with plugins and tools,
> > and It sould be very nice to use all that power for automatic
> > process.
>
> First, I would propose that you investigate Imagemagick command line
> tools ( http://www.imagemagick.org/ ) and see if they present a better
> solution.
>
> Second, you should investigate using GEGL. It is particularly targeted
> for the type of activity you are pursuing and your participation could
> help advance its progress.
>
> If neither of those two options seem desirable then I would present
> the following GIMP-based options:
>
> 1) Invoke GIMP from your C program, passing the commands you wish
> executed as Script-fu in batch mode ('-b').
>
> 2) If you need lower level processing than provided by Script-fu,
> write your code as a GIMP plug-in and invoke your plug-in from a batch
> Script-fu command. Example:
>gimp -i -b '(plug-in-pablos-function RUN-NONINTERACTIVE parameter1
> parameter2)' -b '(quit 0)'
>
> 3) Run an interactive server, as briefly described in this ML posting:
> (
> http://flashingtwelve.brickfilms.com:2095/horde/imp/message.php?index=11369
> )
>
> 4) Write your code as a GIMP plug-in per the tutorial described here:
> ( http://gimp.org/docs/plug-in/sect-essentials.html )
>
> however, you should register an 'init' procedure which invokes your
> plug-in (perhaps passing it command line parameters).
>
> This will have the effect of your plug-in automatically being executed
> when GIMP is run; therefore do NOT put your autoexecuted plug-in into
> the standard GIMP plug-in folders (or you will "break" normal usage of
> GIMP). Instead, create a custom gimprc file (e.g.,
> "$HOME/gimprc.pablo") which adds the path of your autoexecuted plug-in
> to the plug-in search path:
>(plug-in-path
> "${gimp_dir}/plug-ins:$HOME/.gimp-2.6/plug-ins:$HOME/autoexec/plug-ins")
>
> You then can invoke GIMP, specifying the alternate gimprc:
>gimp -i -g $HOME/gimprc.pablo
>
> ===
>
> There is l
Re: [Gimp-developer] Using GIMP from my own program
Quoting Pablo Yaggi :
> So ..., I think a couple of things are not clear to me about gimp,
> if plugins communicate with the core of gimp thought a pipe, I
> should be able to create a plugin to do what i want, even
> call other plugins, but could that plugin be executed from outside
> the core ?, ...
Yes.
> even so it is necesary that gimp is running before
> doing it ?
Yes, if you want to use plug-ins or scripts then you will want GIMP to
be running (unless you want to reimplement all of the functionality of
handling those plug-ins using libgimp).
> are the core and gui strict releated, i mean are the same
> thing? can the gui be down, and the core working ?
Yes, you can execute GIMP without the GUI by passing the
'--no-interface' ('-i') option on the command line. Script-fu code can
be passed to GIMP on the command line as well, if you know what that
code is in advance. If you need a more interactive approach, you could
also have GIMP running in a server mode where Script-fu commands are
passed over TCP.
> In other words, is it possible in any way to use gimp for
> automatic image processing/generating, because GEGL its very
> promissing but gimp is fully charged with plugins and tools,
> and It sould be very nice to use all that power for automatic
> process.
First, I would propose that you investigate Imagemagick command line
tools ( http://www.imagemagick.org/ ) and see if they present a better
solution.
Second, you should investigate using GEGL. It is particularly targeted
for the type of activity you are pursuing and your participation could
help advance its progress.
If neither of those two options seem desirable then I would present
the following GIMP-based options:
1) Invoke GIMP from your C program, passing the commands you wish
executed as Script-fu in batch mode ('-b').
2) If you need lower level processing than provided by Script-fu,
write your code as a GIMP plug-in and invoke your plug-in from a batch
Script-fu command. Example:
gimp -i -b '(plug-in-pablos-function RUN-NONINTERACTIVE parameter1
parameter2)' -b '(quit 0)'
3) Run an interactive server, as briefly described in this ML posting:
(
http://flashingtwelve.brickfilms.com:2095/horde/imp/message.php?index=11369
)
4) Write your code as a GIMP plug-in per the tutorial described here:
( http://gimp.org/docs/plug-in/sect-essentials.html )
however, you should register an 'init' procedure which invokes your
plug-in (perhaps passing it command line parameters).
This will have the effect of your plug-in automatically being executed
when GIMP is run; therefore do NOT put your autoexecuted plug-in into
the standard GIMP plug-in folders (or you will "break" normal usage of
GIMP). Instead, create a custom gimprc file (e.g.,
"$HOME/gimprc.pablo") which adds the path of your autoexecuted plug-in
to the plug-in search path:
(plug-in-path
"${gimp_dir}/plug-ins:$HOME/.gimp-2.6/plug-ins:$HOME/autoexec/plug-ins")
You then can invoke GIMP, specifying the alternate gimprc:
gimp -i -g $HOME/gimprc.pablo
===
There is little difference between 2) and 4) in net effect, but I
thought I would try to explain it anyway (I have never tried the
fourth method). Usually the 'init' procedure is not used for
individual plug-ins -- it is used to configure things for entire
packages of multiple plug-ins (such as Python-fu or the GIMP Animation
Package).
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Using GIMP from my own program
Ok, then I keep googling and I'll check gegl a little deep, thank's Martin, BR, Pablo On Sunday 14 December 2008 15:59:59 Martin Nordholts wrote: > Pablo Yaggi wrote: > > So ..., I think a couple of things are not clear to me about gimp, > > > > if plugins communicate with the core of gimp thought a pipe, I > > > > should be able to create a plugin to do what i want, even > > > > call other plugins, but could that plugin be executed from outside > > > > the core ? > > All plug-ins are executed outside the core as a separate process. > Plug-ins registers procedures that other plug-ins, typically language > wrappers, can call. GIMP takes care of inter-process communication. > > > , even so it is necesary that gimp is running before > > > > doing it ? are the core and gui strict releated, i mean are the same > > > > thing? can the gui be down, and the core working ? > > > > In other words, is it possible in any way to use gimp for > > > > automatic image processing/generating, because GEGL its very > > > > promissing but gimp is fully charged with plugins and tools, > > > > and It sould be very nice to use all that power for automatic > > > > process. > > > > Pablo > > GIMP has non-interactive and batch processing modes but I do not use > these very often so I don't have any further details to give than to > refer to Google and the GIMP source code. > > - Martin ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Using GIMP from my own program
Pablo Yaggi wrote: > > So ..., I think a couple of things are not clear to me about gimp, > > if plugins communicate with the core of gimp thought a pipe, I > > should be able to create a plugin to do what i want, even > > call other plugins, but could that plugin be executed from outside > > the core ? > All plug-ins are executed outside the core as a separate process. Plug-ins registers procedures that other plug-ins, typically language wrappers, can call. GIMP takes care of inter-process communication. > , even so it is necesary that gimp is running before > > doing it ? are the core and gui strict releated, i mean are the same > > thing? can the gui be down, and the core working ? > > In other words, is it possible in any way to use gimp for > > automatic image processing/generating, because GEGL its very > > promissing but gimp is fully charged with plugins and tools, > > and It sould be very nice to use all that power for automatic > > process. > > Pablo > GIMP has non-interactive and batch processing modes but I do not use these very often so I don't have any further details to give than to refer to Google and the GIMP source code. - Martin ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Using GIMP from my own program
So ..., I think a couple of things are not clear to me about gimp, if plugins communicate with the core of gimp thought a pipe, I should be able to create a plugin to do what i want, even call other plugins, but could that plugin be executed from outside the core ?, even so it is necesary that gimp is running before doing it ? are the core and gui strict releated, i mean are the same thing? can the gui be down, and the core working ? In other words, is it possible in any way to use gimp for automatic image processing/generating, because GEGL its very promissing but gimp is fully charged with plugins and tools, and It sould be very nice to use all that power for automatic process. Pablo On Sunday 14 December 2008 14:57:18 Martin Nordholts wrote: > Pablo Yaggi wrote: > > But I don't want to call it from a gimp plugin, I want to call it from > > > > inside a simple c program, is it possible ? > > > > I mean using libgimp outside Gimp, just linking to it, if it so > > > > I suppose I need to make some initialization and I should > > > > need to create some type of data object and so, any example ? > > > > Best Regards > > > > Pablo > > The GIMP plug-ins are not available as a statically linkable libraries > (with perhaps some corner cases such as the libflame based plug-in). > Keep in mind that plug-ins are separate executables/processes that > communicate with the GIMP core through a pipe. > > Maybe you can find the filter you want in the GEGL framework which you > can link statically/dynamically as any library and extend with your own > operations. > > - Martin ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Using GIMP from my own program
Pablo Yaggi wrote: > > But I don't want to call it from a gimp plugin, I want to call it from > > inside a simple c program, is it possible ? > > I mean using libgimp outside Gimp, just linking to it, if it so > > I suppose I need to make some initialization and I should > > need to create some type of data object and so, any example ? > > Best Regards > > Pablo > The GIMP plug-ins are not available as a statically linkable libraries (with perhaps some corner cases such as the libflame based plug-in). Keep in mind that plug-ins are separate executables/processes that communicate with the GIMP core through a pipe. Maybe you can find the filter you want in the GEGL framework which you can link statically/dynamically as any library and extend with your own operations. - Martin ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Using GIMP from my own program
But I don't want to call it from a gimp plugin, I want to call it from inside a simple c program, is it possible ? I mean using libgimp outside Gimp, just linking to it, if it so I suppose I need to make some initialization and I should need to create some type of data object and so, any example ? Best Regards Pablo On Sunday 14 December 2008 13:50:25 Martin Nordholts wrote: > Pablo Yaggi wrote: > > Hi, is it possible to use gimp from a C program ? > > > > I want to open an image use some plugin on it and > > > > save it. I know perl does something like that, but > > > > I couldn't find info about that, could somebody > > > > point me in a good direction ? > > > > Bests, > > > > Pablo > > Hi! > > The different language wrappers for GIMP such as Perl, Python or Scheme > are themselves basically just wrappers for the PDB, Procedural DataBase. > If you want to call a PDB procedure from GIMP plug-in written in C you > would use gimp_run_procedure() [1] or gimp_run_procedure2(). (These are > the functions the language wrappers themselves use (the language > wrappers are themselves plug-ins)). > > BR, > Martin > > [1] > http://developer.gimp.org/api/2.0/libgimp/libgimp-gimp.html#gimp-run-proced >ure ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Using GIMP from my own program
Pablo Yaggi wrote: > > Hi, is it possible to use gimp from a C program ? > > I want to open an image use some plugin on it and > > save it. I know perl does something like that, but > > I couldn't find info about that, could somebody > > point me in a good direction ? > > Bests, > > Pablo > Hi! The different language wrappers for GIMP such as Perl, Python or Scheme are themselves basically just wrappers for the PDB, Procedural DataBase. If you want to call a PDB procedure from GIMP plug-in written in C you would use gimp_run_procedure() [1] or gimp_run_procedure2(). (These are the functions the language wrappers themselves use (the language wrappers are themselves plug-ins)). BR, Martin [1] http://developer.gimp.org/api/2.0/libgimp/libgimp-gimp.html#gimp-run-procedure ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] Using GIMP from my own program
Hi, is it possible to use gimp from a C program ? I want to open an image use some plugin on it and save it. I know perl does something like that, but I couldn't find info about that, could somebody point me in a good direction ? Bests, Pablo ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Using GIMP for Paper Prototyping the Colors Menu
Hi, Akkana Peck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Apparently someone (in gnome?) is working on some sort of > card-sorting app to help with distributed paper prototyping. The application I am speaking of is being developed by the team behind openusability.org. The main advantage will be that it will includes code for analysing the results. > Anyone concerned with the Colors menu, please try this and drag > stuff around and see if you find groupings you like better than the > current ones. > > For the current Colors menu, the strings to paste into the > paperproto dialog are (copy and paste the whole block): If you use the menu labels you imply that the user knows what the filters behind these names do. Otherwise you are just sorting the terms, not the actual meaning. We should try to avoid that and let users sort cards that have a short description of the filter instead of asking them to sort the menu labels. But certainly your card-sorting prototype can already help the way it is. It just requires experienced gimp users. Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Using GIMP for Paper Prototyping the Colors Menu
On 8/27/05, michael chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It might help if you bind the text layers to a coloured layer, (either > white, or white with an outline, or something), so they're easier to > see. [Especially if trying to create a layout that fills multiple > conditions.] Sorry, said this before looking at the script. Very nice! [I don't believe it would be sane to say maybe considering optionally having coloured backgrounds/background outlines per layer (to catagorize items, maybe), nor to allow for all the pieces to be stuck in a pile in the corner -- but then again I believe I'm a very insane person. Although that's what I meant, on reconsideration, that would be too much work and looping IMO for such a simple script.] -- ~Mike - Just my two cents - No man is an island, and no man is unable. ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Using GIMP for Paper Prototyping the Colors Menu
On 8/27/05, Akkana Peck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > card-sorting app to help with distributed paper prototyping. But it > occurred to me (based on an offhand comment I read on slashdot, of > all places) that GIMP itself could be a pretty good paper > prototyping system. After all, you can have lots of text layers and As a side note, this is actually a very good way of using the GIMP -- I used it myself when trying to solve a puzzle I was given by a teacher. Quite handy! It might help if you bind the text layers to a coloured layer, (either white, or white with an outline, or something), so they're easier to see. [Especially if trying to create a layout that fills multiple conditions.] -- ~Mike - Just my two cents - No man is an island, and no man is unable. ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] Using GIMP for Paper Prototyping the Colors Menu
Anyone pulling CVS has probably noticed that most of GIMP's color-related functions have been moved into a new toplevel Colors menu (as discussed in bug 116145). There's some concern that the menu is a bit long, or could be organized better. Sven has been enthused about paper prototyping lately (see discussion in his blog entry) -- that's where you write things down on slips of paper and shuffle them around to come up with the order that seems most intuitive. The problem is, you need to get everybody together in a room for that, which is hard with a worldwide development community. Apparently someone (in gnome?) is working on some sort of card-sorting app to help with distributed paper prototyping. But it occurred to me (based on an offhand comment I read on slashdot, of all places) that GIMP itself could be a pretty good paper prototyping system. After all, you can have lots of text layers and drag them around with the move tool, and there's even a way to save your work when you're done. So I wrote a little quickie paper prototyping script-fu. It's at http://shallowsky.com/software/gimp/paperproto.scm Drop it into your ~/.gimp-?.?/scripts directory and Refresh Scripts. It registers under Xtns->Script-fu->Misc. Fill the textarea with a list of your paper prototyping terms, one per line, and it will make an image where each phrase is a text layer you can drag around. Anyone concerned with the Colors menu, please try this and drag stuff around and see if you find groupings you like better than the current ones. For the current Colors menu, the strings to paste into the paperproto dialog are (copy and paste the whole block): Image Mode Color Balance... Hue-Saturation... Colorize... Brightness-Contrast... Threshold... Levels... Curves... Posterize... Desaturate... Invert Value Invert Auto Histogram Colorcube Analysis... Adjust FG-BG Alien Map 2... Color Exchange... Color Range Mapping... Colormap Rotation... Gradient Map Palette Map Sample Colorize... Compose... Decompose... Recompose... Border Average... Channel Mixer... Color to Alpha... Colorify... Filter Pack... Hot... Max RGB... Retinex... Semi-Flatten Smooth Palette... Draw HSV Graph... Happy prototyping! ...Akkana ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] using gimp
i think we won the usability test when we were able to provide someone as well-rounded and decent as roman to help with the tests. this is a volunteer effort. and then they need more? they needed more from suse, who they must have paid. carol ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Using Gimp
Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tino Schwarze) writes: > > This is because Gimp needs an X display to work. Now, there is a way to > > work around this, either just point it to some machine that gives it > > access to the DISPLAY, or use the virtual framebuffer of the linux > > kernel (if the machine runs linux) and run an framebuffer X server on > > it. > > Hm. I suppose, Xvfb is the better choice here as there is no need to > actually see anything. It also does not need any graphics hardware. or (if you are brave) try to use gimp-1.3 which doesn't need an X display at all if started with the --no-interface command-line option. Salut, Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Using Gimp
On Wed, Apr 24, 2002 at 12:55:15PM +0300, Tuomas Kuosmanen wrote: > This plug-in is stored on a Server and being accessed by other client > machines. I want them to be able to open a window access the server, > run the program without getting the dreaded "Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open > display" error. Just straight command line editing of an image and > outputing it to a format. > > This is because Gimp needs an X display to work. Now, there is a way to > work around this, either just point it to some machine that gives it > access to the DISPLAY, or use the virtual framebuffer of the linux > kernel (if the machine runs linux) and run an framebuffer X server on > it. Hm. I suppose, Xvfb is the better choice here as there is no need to actually see anything. It also does not need any graphics hardware. Citing the man page: The X community has found many other novel uses for Xvfb, including testing clients against unusual depths and screen configurations, doing batch processing with Xvfb as a background rendering engine, load testing, as an aid to porting the X server to a new platform, and providing an unobtrusive way to run applications that don't really need an X server but insist on having one anyway. Bye, Tino. -- * LINUX - Where do you want to be tomorrow? * http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/linux/tag/ ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Using Gimp
On Tue, 2002-04-23 at 23:57, Russell St.Fleur wrote: I created a plug-in for gimp and when given certain parameters add text to the file. I would like to know if there is a way for the plug-in to work ie.. add the text to the file via the command line. This plug-in is stored on a Server and being accessed by other client machines. I want them to be able to open a window access the server, run the program without getting the dreaded "Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display" error. Just straight command line editing of an image and outputing it to a format. This is because Gimp needs an X display to work. Now, there is a way to work around this, either just point it to some machine that gives it access to the DISPLAY, or use the virtual framebuffer of the linux kernel (if the machine runs linux) and run an framebuffer X server on it. But you probably dont want to do that, since ImageMagick suits your task much better; see http://www.imagemagick.org/ - it is a poweful commandline tool that can also add text to images. And it has C, C++, Perl and Java API that you can use to write a small program or have it as part of a larger one. And it does not depend on a $DISPLAY, it can use truetype fonts directly from files. I use that myself with my webcam script to add the date and time and caption for example. I hope this helps Tuomas -- :: :: Tuomas Kuosmanen :: Art Director, Ximian :: :: :: :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: www.ximian.com :: :: ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] Using Gimp
I created a plug-in for gimp and when given certain parameters add text to the file. I would like to know if there is a way for the plug-in to work ie.. add the text to the file via the command line. This plug-in is stored on a Server and being accessed by other client machines. I want them to be able to open a window access the server, run the program without getting the dreaded "Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display" error. Just straight command line editing of an image and outputing it to a format. Russell ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
