Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP color-management spec and further discussion

2010-03-10 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 2/10/10, yahvuu wrote: > Among garden-variety photo labs, it's pretty much standard to discard any > color profile information and just assume sRGB. It's pretty much standard where you live maybe, but not where *I* live :) Alexandre ___ Gimp-develop

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP color-management spec and further discussion

2010-03-10 Thread yahvuu
Martin Nordholts wrote: > "4) When an image with an explicit profile is exported >c) If the file format has no way to embed color profile information, > (FIXME!)" > > In terms of a problem, this is pretty similar to "when an image has > several layers and we export to an image format that d

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP color-management spec and further discussion

2010-02-10 Thread Omari Stephens
I had composed a response, and then shortly before sending, WIFI on my laptop conked out. I think yahvuu covered most of what I was going to say, though. I'll send it anyway when I pull the laptop out again. --xsdg On 02/10/2010 07:09 PM, yahvuu wrote: > Martin Nordholts wrote: >> On 02/07/20

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP color-management spec and further discussion

2010-02-10 Thread yahvuu
Martin Nordholts wrote: > On 02/07/2010 04:55 AM, Omari Stephens wrote: > "1) When an image is opened with no associated color profile, we assume > that it is encoded in sRGB space." > > I don't think we should assume that, do you have an example use case > where that is a good idea? I think t

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP color-management spec and further discussion

2010-02-09 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 02/07/2010 04:55 AM, Omari Stephens wrote: > Hi, all > > I wrote up a quick spec for how GIMP should deal with color profiles > associated with files and images. The spec is attached, and is also > attached to bug 608961. If you have any general thoughts/comments, I > would love to hear them, bu

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP color-management spec and further discussion

2010-02-08 Thread Graeme Gill
Omari Stephens wrote:"). > What does "compatible with AdobeRGB" actually mean? It means that it was written to conform to Adobe's published specification of AdobeRGB. > How does > "compatible with AdobeRGB" differ from "AdobeRGB"? (Note: I assume that > you know what you're talking about here

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP color-management spec and further discussion

2010-02-08 Thread Omari Stephens
On 02/08/2010 07:41 PM, Graeme Gill wrote: > > Omari Stephens wrote: >> For one, as Sven pointed out, we can't ship the AdobeRGB color profile. >> This means that even if we know it _should_ be AdobeRGB, the user will >> need to take some action either to make that profile available or to tag >>

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP color-management spec and further discussion

2010-02-08 Thread Graeme Gill
Omari Stephens wrote: > For one, as Sven pointed out, we can't ship the AdobeRGB color profile. > This means that even if we know it _should_ be AdobeRGB, the user will > need to take some action either to make that profile available or to tag > it manually. Why can't you apply a profile compati

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP color-management spec and further discussion

2010-02-08 Thread yahvuu
Omari Stephens wrote: > For one, as Sven pointed out, we can't ship the AdobeRGB color profile. > This means that even if we know it _should_ be AdobeRGB, the user will > need to take some action either to make that profile available or to tag > it manually. i think that is a special case of 'inv

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP color-management spec and further discussion

2010-02-07 Thread Omari Stephens
On 02/08/2010 01:39 AM, Graeme Gill wrote: > Omari Stephens wrote: >> Obviously, options for both of these things are "prompt the user." It seems >> like there >> should be better alternatives, but I'm not sure what they might be. >> guiguru? others? > > You're better having a set of default

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP color-management spec and further discussion

2010-02-07 Thread Graeme Gill
Omari Stephens wrote: > Obviously, options for both of these things are "prompt the user." It seems > like there > should be better alternatives, but I'm not sure what they might be. > guiguru? others? You're better having a set of defaults that the user can configure, so they aren't constan

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP color-management spec and further discussion

2010-02-07 Thread Omari Stephens
NOTE: if someone wants to think about the UI/UX involved in the color management spec, I would really appreciate it. Right now, I have no time for thinking outside the box — it's all I can do to find 30 minutes here and there to do some GIMP hacking as it is. So if you don't want to see more

Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP color-management spec and further discussion

2010-02-07 Thread yahvuu
Hi all, Omari Stephens wrote: > Hi, all > > I wrote up a quick spec for how GIMP should deal with color profiles > associated with files and images. The spec is attached, and is also > attached to bug 608961. If you have any general thoughts/comments, I > would love to hear them, but please not