Re: [Gimp-user] Another Gimp/UFRaw topic

2009-10-05 Thread Ilya Zakharevich
On 2009-10-03, Norman Silverstone nor...@littletank.org wrote: What do you think are benefits of using jpegs with quality above 95%? I have absolutely no idea, it is just that I came across a reference somewhere which said I use 98% jpeg compression when archiving images. Better use

Re: [Gimp-user] Another Gimp/UFRaw topic

2009-10-05 Thread Norman Silverstone
Better use compressed 8-bit sRGB TIFF instead (all minilabs I know would reject TIFF with *any* compression, though...). Why is that? Why is WHAT??? You need to Trim the posting more precisely... I wonder if the questioner meant why do minilabs reject TIFF with *any* compression?

Re: [Gimp-user] Another Gimp/UFRaw topic

2009-10-03 Thread Ilya Zakharevich
On 2009-10-02, Norman Silverstone nor...@littletank.org wrote: I have been following this thread with interest so I decided to do some tests. The results may be relevant or not as the case may be but I think that they are interesting. My little camera gives a RAW image = 8.6 MB and a jpeg

Re: [Gimp-user] Another Gimp/UFRaw topic

2009-10-03 Thread Norman Silverstone
I have been following this thread with interest so I decided to do some tests. The results may be relevant or not as the case may be but I think that they are interesting. My little camera gives a RAW image = 8.6 MB and a jpeg image = 2.6 MB. The developed RAW image from UFRaw saved at

Re: [Gimp-user] Another Gimp/UFRaw topic

2009-10-03 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Sat, 03 Oct 2009 08:59:11 +0100, Norman Silverstone wrote: I have absolutely no idea, it is just that I came across a reference somewhere which said I use 98% jpeg compression when archiving images. If you're archiving images that aren't compressed with lossy compression, use a format that

Re: [Gimp-user] Another Gimp/UFRaw topic

2009-10-02 Thread Norman Silverstone
Ok, I want to make sure that I've asked my question clear enough before I decide that you guys have blown me away with your technological knowledge. I'm shooting in RAW and so I'm opening up a RAW file with UFRaw because without opening the file first with UFRaw, I can't get it into

Re: [Gimp-user] Another Gimp/UFRaw topic

2009-10-01 Thread Ilya Zakharevich
On 2009-09-30, Carusoswi for...@gimpusers.com wrote: In the spirit of the OP's question, if you make no adjustments in UFRAW, is there any more latitude for adjustment in the resultant JPG file (in Gimp or other editing application) than what you might get straight from the camera? This is not

[Gimp-user] Another Gimp/UFRaw topic

2009-10-01 Thread Bryan
On 2009-09-30, Carusoswi for...@gimpusers.com wrote: In the spirit of the OP's question, if you make no adjustments in UFRAW, is there any more latitude for adjustment in the resultant JPG file (in Gimp or other editing application) than what you might get straight from the camera? This is not

Re: [Gimp-user] Another Gimp/UFRaw topic

2009-10-01 Thread John Mills
Ilya - Thanks for your earlier note -- I am quite happy to stand corrected and your post suggests a basic experiment I can easily do: compare in-camera processed and post-processed RAW images for the same scene and settings. I'll have a limited sample to work with: my only camera delivering

Re: [Gimp-user] Another Gimp/UFRaw topic

2009-10-01 Thread George Farris
On Thu, 2009-10-01 at 07:11 -0700, Ok, I want to make sure that I've asked my question clear enough before I decide that you guys have blown me away with your technological knowledge. I'm shooting in RAW and so I'm opening up a RAW file with UFRaw because without opening the file first with

[Gimp-user] Another Gimp/UFRaw topic

2009-10-01 Thread Bryan
Well thank you Simon, even though you didn't have the answer at least I don't feel alone on this issue. I'll see if I can find anything more in a UFRaw site. Much obliged. -Bryan There was nothing wrong with your question: It was perfectly clear. What was strange is that everyone on the list

Re: [Gimp-user] Another Gimp/UFRaw topic

2009-10-01 Thread Ilya Zakharevich
On 2009-10-01, John Mills johnmi...@speakeasy.net wrote: With cameras which use more advanced versions of the Apical Iridex hardware or firmware (starting with Sony, but Nikon is reported to be in process of catching up), the situation is not as clear. I did not see any report of RAW

Re: [Gimp-user] Another Gimp/UFRaw topic

2009-10-01 Thread Ilya Zakharevich
On 2009-10-01, Bryan for...@gimpusers.com wrote: Well, after opening the RAW file in UFRaw and whether I perforn any adjustments or not in UFRaw, if I hit OK to send it to Gimp isn't it still a RAW file when it's in GIMP or has UFRaw converted it to a jpg automatically and that is why the

[Gimp-user] Another Gimp/UFRaw topic

2009-10-01 Thread Carusoswi
There was nothing wrong with your question: It was perfectly clear. What was strange is that everyone on the list who replied, did not answer your question but answered the question that thought that they had read. Perhaps, they simply do not want to answer it, or the explanation missed its mark

[Gimp-user] Another Gimp/UFRaw topic

2009-09-30 Thread Bryan
For starters, is there any good reason why UFRaw should be used for anything other than opening a RAW file before transporting it to Gimp? What I really wanted to ask was, Why, when open up an image in UFRaw and it looks great, even when zoomed in as much as allowed. However, when you sent it to

Re: [Gimp-user] Another Gimp/UFRaw topic

2009-09-30 Thread John Mills
Bryan - Wiser heads will probably correct or refine this, but ... The 'raw' file is supposed to represent data very close to what is provided by the camera's sensor array. Before saving images in non-raw formats (JPEG, etc.) the camera performs some conversions of the image field as well as -

Re: [Gimp-user] Another Gimp/UFRaw topic

2009-09-30 Thread Ilya Zakharevich
On 2009-09-30, John Mills johnmi...@speakeasy.net wrote: If you aren't making any adjustments in UFRaw you may be just as well-off to work with [say] JPEG images out of your camera. The intermediate stage of adjusting your image in UFRaw is one of the main reasons for using RAW format in

[Gimp-user] Another Gimp/UFRaw topic

2009-09-30 Thread Carusoswi
On 2009-09-30, John Mills johnmi...@speakeasy.net wrote: If you aren't making any adjustments in UFRaw you may be just as well-off to work with [say] JPEG images out of your camera. The intermediate stage of adjusting your image in UFRaw is one of the main reasons for using RAW format in