[Gimp-user] Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP merchandising
Hi, Jay Cox a écrit : Has anyone here seen the quality of their shirts? Are they screen printed or heat transfered? I prefer screen printed tshirts, but gradients like the ones we have in the gimp logo dont usually screen print very well. I'll let Federico answer the question about whether they're screen printed or not - I seem to recall that he told me that they are. And there is a Wilber without gradients. They seem like a good company and I have no reason to doubt their quality, but if I were making the decision I would want to know beforehand. And rightly so. Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP merchandising
It's ok for me, as long as they are aware this will in no way grant them exclusive rights about GIMP merchandising. So other people, like Gilberto who happened to ask yesterday about this, could make their all stuff. JS -- On Thursday 19 May 2005 08:32, Dave Neary wrote: Hi all, As many of you know, we have an informal merchandising arrangement with Sourcewear.com which has raise a few dollars this year (not much, though). I would like to improve on this relationship, and I know that Federico at sourcewear feels the same. For my part, I'd like to see better products, and more products, as well as formalising the cut we get from merchandising (this is currently an informal arrangement, I think that we should get an engagement on paper). For their part, they would like to continue having their logo on the arm (which I'm OK with), and they would like to be our official merchandiser - that is, have a place in the sidebar on every page, and a place of prominence on the front page. That's why I'm writing here. Is this arrangement OK with people? I will firm things up quickly with Federico if it is, but I didn't want to start negociating something without running it past the communtiy that has stuck with the GIMP. Lazy approval is in effect - if you haven't replied in 3 days, I'll assume everyone's happy with this. Cheers, Dave. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP merchandising
On Thursday 19 May 2005 04:32 am, Dave Neary wrote: Hi all, As many of you know, we have an informal merchandising arrangement with Sourcewear.com which has raise a few dollars this year (not much, though). I would like to improve on this relationship, and I know that Federico at sourcewear feels the same. For my part, I'd like to see better products, and more products, as well as formalising the cut we get from merchandising (this is currently an informal arrangement, I think that we should get an engagement on paper). For their part, they would like to continue having their logo on the arm (which I'm OK with), and they would like to be our official merchandiser - that is, have a place in the sidebar on every page, and a place of prominence on the front page. That's why I'm writing here. Is this arrangement OK with people? I will firm things up quickly with Federico if it is, but I didn't want to start negociating something without running it past the communtiy that has stuck with the GIMP. Lazy approval is in effect - if you haven't replied in 3 days, I'll assume everyone's happy with this. Cheers, Dave. I would not have a problem with this as long as there are NO pop-up ads on the pages. -- Russ ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] ANNOUNCE: Gimp User Manual 0.8 released
Hi, the GIMP developers are proud to announce the new version of the GIMP User Manual GIMP (0.8). Please keep in mind that this release is intended for developers and interested users for reading. The release can be downloaded from: ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/help/testing/ For more information about our project and helping us, you can visit our project page at: http://docs.gimp.org The manual includes a lot of improvemnts by our docwriters and contributors: * spelling fixes for almost every translation * Beginning of Italian and Dutch translation * stylesheet fixes: CSS, HTML and DB2LaTeX driver files * XML validity fixes for french and swedish * Makefile overhaul * a new Hacking styleguide contributions from Sven Neumann, Cai Quian, Daniel Egger, Julien Hardelin, Jakub Friedl, Robert van Drunen, Karine Delvare, David Klementa, Xceals, Axel Wernicke, Roman Joost, Øyvind Kolås Thanks and Happy GIMPing! -- Roman Joost www: http://www.romanofski.de email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp5Cx3j8Uv83.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Gimp-user] recording of commands
thanks alot, I'll see if I can make this work! :-) kristin David Hodson wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ ...David's Batch Processor ...] any such plug-in for gimp win users? From what I can see the DBP plug-in is only for linux? I've just updated the page. (http://members.ozemail.com.au/~hodsond/dbp.html) It now contains links to download the precompiled Win32 version(s). (Thanks to Michael Schumacher for sending me those files.) Let me know if there're any problems. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.11.12 - Release Date: 17.05.2005 ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP merchandising
Dave Neary wrote: I would like to improve on this relationship, and I know that Federico at sourcewear feels the same. For my part, I'd like to see better products, and more products, I'd like to be able to order one of those Pixel Pusher shirts. The plain white with Wilbur is boring IMO. as well as formalising the cut we get from merchandising (this is currently an informal arrangement, I think that we should get an engagement on paper). Yes. This is very important. For their part, they would like to continue having their logo on the arm (which I'm OK with) How does the Gimp benefit from this? Does WalMart get to put their logo on the Fruit of the Loom shirts they sell? Of course not. Personally, I think their logo has no place being on the shirt in any permanent form. I'd definitely look elsewhere for a shirt vendor if they're insistent on their logo appearing on any of the Gimp product. I will help you find one if need be. , and they would like to be our official merchandiser If you can pan out everything mentioned above/below equitably, then I don't see a problem with this. - that is, have a place in the sidebar on every page, and a place of prominence on the front page. Once again... how does the Gimp benefit from such an arrangement? Webspace comes at a premium in the industry I work in. Of course, the Gimp isn't a company, but that's not to say we shouldn't be selective who we contract to do our merchandising. That's why I'm writing here. Is this arrangement OK with people? No. I honestly don't mean to be so negative, but what you've proposed just doesn't look good at all. Eric P. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Wilber
Olivier Ripoll wrote: Gilberto wrote: I live in Brasil I´m planning to sell mugs with Wilber decoration. Is this legal? Wilber logo is GPLed. So as long as you provide the source code of your mug and carve the complete GPL licence on the bottom face of the mug, there is no problem. Hm, I'll try to give a more serious answer: Basically, Olivier is right (if the Wilber is really GPLed). But you don't have to carve the GPL into the mug (/me slaps Olivier). What would be nice if each cup came with a short note explaining what GIMP is and an offer from you to provide the source of the mug to your customers (in this case, this would be the image ready for printing on cups). IMO you don't have to provide the sources for the mug itself, because this can be considered the platform Wilber is used on. HTH, Michael -- The GIMP http://www.gimp.org | IRC: irc://irc.gimp.org/gimp Wiki http://wiki.gimp.org | .de: http://gimpforum.de Plug-ins http://registry.gimp.org | ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP merchandising
Hi, I've thought more about the whole thing and I would like to propose the following solution: We add a page about GIMP merchandising to www.gimp.org. This page (GIMP Stuff ?) gets linked from the sidebar and from the Donations page and it is mentioned on the front page at the time it is added (and perhaps every once in a while). On that page we give links to all places where people can obtain GIMP stuff but only if the GIMP project also gets a fair share of the bargain. This is probably less than what Federico from sourcewear wants us to do but I don't see why we should start to do agreements with anyone. Let alone the fact that there's no legal entity who could make such an agreement. If at all it would be Tigert as the author of the Wilber drawing who could claim rights on it. For the moment, sourcewear will probably be the only GIMP merchandiser linked from the GIMP stuff page, but I hope that more nice GIMP things will be available in the future. If that can help the GIMP project in any way, that's a nice side-effect. If you think however that we need to push GIMP merchandising further by having an official GIMP merchandising shop, then we should probably first have a discussion on what we want to spend the raised money on. At the moment we have more money available than we ever had and no idea whatsoever what it should be used for. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Font formats in GIMP
This might be slightly OT, my apologies if it causes any inconvenience. I just got some new fonts and am not quite sure how/if I can use some of them. The TTF fonts are familiar; I just put them into my font directory. There are also a few .AFM (Adobe?) fonts. I found other .afm files on my (fedora) machine. Are these only for acrobat and printing? Can I use them with The Gimp? How can/would I install them. Then there are .wfn fonts which are apparently some proprietary Corel format and are nowhere to be found on my machine. Are these Gimp/Linux compatible at all? Thanks, Barton -- Concern for man himself and his fate must always be the chief interest of all technical endeavors In order that the creations of our mind shall be a blessing and not a curse to mankind. Never forget this in the midst of your diagrams and equations. -- Albert Einstein ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] recording of commands
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ ...David's Batch Processor ...] any such plug-in for gimp win users? From what I can see the DBP plug-in is only for linux? I've just updated the page. (http://members.ozemail.com.au/~hodsond/dbp.html) It now contains links to download the precompiled Win32 version(s). (Thanks to Michael Schumacher for sending me those files.) Let me know if there're any problems. -- David Hodson -- this night wounds time ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: GIMP merchandising
Dave Neary wrote: Hi all, Hi Dave, Since you asked on the gimp-user list, I guess even users like me (whose contribution can be counted on the fingers the hand of any leper) is requested. By coincidence, a Brazilian mug-dealer has been asking today on the list (maybe someone could answer him by the way) for the permission to use Wilber's picture ((c) by Tigert, isn't it). How does this official merchandiser relationship fit with the fact that Wilber's logo is GPLed. Could this Brazilian guy still use the gimp's logo and write the GIMP on his mugs ? Or are you planning to impose a restriction on the license of the Wilber image and the GIMP's name ? I'm just asking... Best regards, Olivier. PS: I just noticed today that copyleft is no more. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Wilber
Hi, Erica [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I live in Brasil Im planning to sell mugs with Wilber decoration. Is this legal? Gilberto Yeah, I think it is. If it is legal to sell GIMP, it might be legal to sell mugs with Wilber. Refer to this page: http://gimp.org/about/selling.html I'd be very careful about this. I am not a lawyer, but IMO it is wrong to assume that selling things with the GIMP logo is legal without a written agreement with the author of the artwork. But it is probably safe to assume that noone is going to sue you if you donate a fair share of your bargain to the GIMP project (http://gimp.org/donating/). The page you referred to clearly only deals with selling the software. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Wilber
On Thursday 19 May 2005 14:27, Gilberto wrote: Hi I live in Brasil I´m planning to sell mugs with Wilber decoration. Is this legal? Gilberto Hi Gilberto! Yes, it is legal to do your all artworks, for profit or not, based on the GIMP art. AFAIK all artwork that is officially related to the GIMP is licensed under the GPL, so, if possible, you could attach a text in a label with the mugs stating that the artwork can be reproduced, as far as the GPL terms are satisfied. Most people do not do that - and no one will be sued for nto doing so, certainly. However, I personally consider a copyleft label on stuff that is indeed copyleft a good thing, in a sense that people that do not realize that most other things are copyright begin to do so. If you need any further help, yo may contact me in portuguese. Regards, JS -- ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP merchandising
Hi, Sven Neumann wrote: Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For their part, they would like to continue having their logo on the arm (which I'm OK with) The logo on the arm is definitely what keeps me (and probably others) from buying this stuff. I wouldn't dare to leave home wearing one of these shirts. It also gives me a very bad feeling about this merchandising arrangement. This seems to be a common point and I'll discuss this with Federico. I don't think a prominent place on the front page is appropriate. Integrating it into the sidebar might be. At least announcing its existence when we add the link to the sidebar might be nice. What exactly does this arrangement involve? We can hardly decide anything w/o knowing what we are talking about. Does it mean that sourcewear will be the only official merchandiser? It would be a non-exclusive agreement to produce wilber goods, with an agent identified for the GIMP project who would have control over product quality and designs. Exact details need to be worked out. And I'm not going to spend time doing that if the idea is not workable in principle. The only exclusive part would be that the link Buy GIMP stuff on gimp.org would go to wilber merchandise on sourcewear.com. They're getting placement - people who want to buy gimp merchandise go to gimp.org, where we currently don't cater for them. They don't go to sourcewear.org, so they don't sell many t-shirts, and we don't get much money from the arrangement. If we add a link to wgo, we are providing a service to people who want to buy wilber stuff and don't know where to go, they get more referrals, more sales, and we get a bigger slice of a bigger cake to spend on things that we want - for example, paying for the publishing of the GIMP manual (why not?) and a GIMP conference (when someone around here decides they want to put the time into arranging one). Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lyon, France ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp-Perl plugin fails to compile.
On Saturday 21 May 2005 00.30, you wrote: Hi, Rikard Johnels [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am desperatly trying to get the Perl module to compile/install but i have no luck. /build/Gimp-1.211 # perl Makefile.PL loading cache ./config.cache checking for gimp... (cached) /opt/gnome/bin/gimp checking for gimptool... (cached) /opt/gnome/bin/gimptool checking for GIMP - version = 1.0.4... yes checking for glib-config... (cached) /opt/gnome/bin/glib-config checking for GLIB - version = 1.2.0... yes checking how to run the C preprocessor... (cached) cc -E checking for libgimp/gimpmodule.h... (cached) yes checking for libintl.h... (cached) yes checking for unistd.h... (cached) yes checking for vsnprintf... (cached) yes checking for intelligent life... not found checking for _exit... (cached) yes creating ./config.status creating config.pl creating config.h config.h is unchanged now invoking perl to complete the configuration... + exec /usr/bin/perl Makefile.PL --writemakefile PREFIX=/usr FATAL: unable to deduce plugindir from gimptool script sparhawk:~ # rpm -q gimp gimp-2.2.7-1.guru.suse92 sparhawk:~ # rpm -q gimp-devel gimp-devel-2.2.7-1.guru.suse92 You are trying to compile/install a hopelessly outdated version of Gimp-Perl. Sven So where can i find a newer version?? Its collected via perl CPAN a few days ago. I thought this to be the latest...? -- /Rikard Sharing knowledge is the most fundamental act of friendship. Because it is a way you can give something without loosing something. -R. Stallman --- Rikard Johnels email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mob : +46 763 19 76 25 PGP : 0x461CEE56 --- ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] What is the easiest way to change background color into transparency?
I want to change the all-black background of an image into a transparency, or make black transparent, so when printed - the background color, black, is not printed. What is the easiest, or most effective, way to do this with Gimp-2.2? ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
