Re: [Gimp-user] How to install help system for 2.0

2004-03-28 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Elaine Normandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Without difficulty, I downloaded the Fedora rpm and am now happily
 playing with Gimp 2.0.  Nice work, everyone!
 
 However, when I attempted to download the tarball and do the
 ./configure, I get the following message:
 
 checking for gimp-2.0... Package gimp-2.0 was not found in the
 pkg-config search path.
 Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gimp-2.0.pc'
 to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
 No package 'gimp-2.0' found
 
 I couldn't find the gimp-2.0.pc file anywhere using locate.  Suggestions?

You need to install the GIMP development RPM that's available from the
same place you got your GIMP-2.0 RPM from. Or, alternatively, you can
configure gimp-help-2 with the --without-gimp option. It will then not
attempt to locate your GIMP installation and will simply install the
help files into the configured prefix. If GIMP is installed in the
same prefix, it will find the help files there. You will probably have
to specify --prefix=/usr to make this happen.


Sven

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Re: [Gimp-user] Converting image to 16bpp?

2004-03-28 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

David Brownlee [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   I'm trying to convert an image to 16bpp with dithering so it can
   be used on a 16bit windows display. All the apps on my NetBSD box
   happily dither a 32bit image for 16bit display, but Windows ends
   up with the traditional 'banding' effect.

You could redo your app in GTK+. GTK+ uses GdkRGB to display 32bit
images on 16bit displays and is has some nifty dithering routines.

I am not sure if there's a GIMP plug-in to do this. Of course you
could simply take a screenshot on a 16bit display ;)


Sven

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Re: Re?: [Gimp-user] [jean-luc.coulon@wanadoo.fr: Re?: Gimp and prepress functions [long]]

2004-03-28 Thread Carol Spears
On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 02:39:03PM +0200, Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) wrote:
 Hi Carol,
 
 Le 27.03.2004 18:59, Carol Spears a ?crit?:
 hi,
 
 thanks for the detailed description.
 
 the developers might be leaving this out so that computer jobs could  
 be
 had by people local to the print savvy people who need this stuff.
 
 i had a vision where people quit sending money to one or two places in
 the world and sent it locally.
 
 I'm a bit confused: how is the money involved in this topic?
 
if you were to open a print shop or a photo print shop -- you would send
all of your money to probably Windows and Adobe.  with TheGIMP, you
could actually hire a local programmer and keep all that cash local.

who knows what the people who live and work in Redmond do with their
money -- the locals maybe would spend some of this same money where ever
they live.  which would be where the print facility is and probably
where you (the owner) lives.

silly simple flow concepts -- probably things are more complicated than
this, but probably not by much.

carol

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[Gimp-user] gimp2 win32 problem with xmlparse.dll

2004-03-28 Thread Benjamin Lebsanft
Hi,

my friend has a problem with running gimp2 on windows. Maybe its related 
to gimp maybe not, as i don't get this error on my win32 box:

german:

der prozedureinsprungpunkt  xml_setdoctypedechandler wurde in der dll 
xmlparse.dll nicht gefunden

translated:

xml_setdoctypedechandler wasn't found in xmlparse.dll ;)

Hopeflly anyone can help me

Thanks
Benni
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Re : Re?: [Gimp-user] [jean-luc.coulon@wanadoo.fr: Re?: Gimp and prepress functions [long]]

2004-03-28 Thread Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh)
Le 28.03.2004 18:07, Carol Spears a écrit :
On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 02:39:03PM +0200, Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh)
wrote:
Hi Carol,

Le 27.03.2004 18:59, Carol Spears a ?crit?:
hi,

thanks for the detailed description.

the developers might be leaving this out so that computer jobs  
could

be
had by people local to the print savvy people who need this stuff.

i had a vision where people quit sending money to one or two places
in
the world and sent it locally.

I'm a bit confused: how is the money involved in this topic?

if you were to open a print shop or a photo print shop -- you would
send
all of your money to probably Windows and Adobe.  with TheGIMP, you
could actually hire a local programmer and keep all that cash local.
Huh? This seems to be a bit esoteric Once again what money has to  
do with colour management ?

Do you mean it is *needed* to get Microsoft and Adobe softwares (and to  
pay or them) to get an colour managed system?

who knows what the people who live and work in Redmond do with their
money -- the locals maybe would spend some of this same money where
ever
they live.  which would be where the print facility is and probably
where you (the owner) lives.
silly simple flow concepts -- probably things are more complicated  
than
this, but probably not by much.
What people who live and work in Redmond (BTW what is Redmond?) has  
to do with the imp and colur management?

Silly is the word.

carol




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[Gimp-user] Future GIMP plans

2004-03-28 Thread Alexander Rabtchevich
I've read the discussion in GIMP-developers list on the plans for GIMP 
future versions and their timeframe.

So I can just add the impression from reading the discussion on the new 
2.0 version in Russian Linux forum. The main problem of The GIMP 2.0 
from the users POW is, it is more powerful than regular users need and 
still don't have features the professional needs. These features are: 
more than 8 bits per channel and color management.

So as for me I'd like to see RAW support (I mean without downsampling) 
and 16 bits per channel first of all :) .

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Re : [Gimp-user] Future GIMP plans

2004-03-28 Thread Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh)
Le 28.03.2004 18:34, Alexander Rabtchevich a écrit :
I've read the discussion in GIMP-developers list on the plans for  
GIMP future versions and their timeframe.

So I can just add the impression from reading the discussion on the  
new 2.0 version in Russian Linux forum. The main problem of The GIMP  
2.0 from the users POW is, it is more powerful than regular users  
need and still don't have features the professional needs. These  
features are: more than 8 bits per channel and color management.

So as for me I'd like to see RAW support (I mean without  
downsampling) and 16 bits per channel first of all :) .

If you speak of raw data from digital camera. There is dcraw. There is  
a plugin for it called rawphoto. As The Gimp can only manage 8 bits per  
channel, you willnot get more. But as dcraw is able of more (48 bits  
with the -4 option) it is  bits ready !

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Re: Re : Re?: [Gimp-user] [jean-luc.coulon@wanadoo.fr: Re?: Gimp and prepress functions [long]]

2004-03-28 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [03-28-04 11:33]:
 
 What people who live and work in Redmond (BTW what is Redmond?) has 
 to do with the imp and colur management?

Redmond is the evil empire, billy-land, windoz..  

  Think:  We WILL have CONTROL!  1984, Big Brother ...
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[Gimp-user] Monitor for Gimp

2004-03-28 Thread John Culleton
I find that my current monitor (Orion 17 inch OC-17DB0725) 
has adjustments for brightness and contrast but none for 
gamma.  The venerable Gimp User Manual (GUM) offers 
instructions for making at least a crude Gamma adjustment. 
But my monitor has no such adjustment.  and when I load the 
file recommended by the GUM I find that my monitor is at 
the high end of the scale for gamma. 

Is there a monitor at a reasonable cost, a few hundreds of 
dollars, that allows for adjustment of gamma? Bearing in 
mind the limitations of Gimp in the color management area, 
what is suggested? I just want to get things close enough 
that what I send to the printer will bear some relationship 
to what I see on the screen in Gimp, allowing for (of 
course) the conversion to CMYK at some point. 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Monitor for Gimp

2004-03-28 Thread Jean-Luc
On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 02:38:12PM -0500, John Culleton wrote:
 I find that my current monitor (Orion 17 inch OC-17DB0725) 
 has adjustments for brightness and contrast but none for 
 gamma.  The venerable Gimp User Manual (GUM) offers 
 instructions for making at least a crude Gamma adjustment. 
 But my monitor has no such adjustment.  and when I load the 
 file recommended by the GUM I find that my monitor is at 
 the high end of the scale for gamma. 

The best is to adjust the gamma within the Xfree software.
There is an application called kgamma and a plugin for gkrellm to do
such an adjustement.

You can alsao use lprof to create a profile for your monitor. lprof
allows you to have a separate gamma for each of the RGB channels. Then
you can use this profile with the 'color proof' filter within the Gimp.
 
 Is there a monitor at a reasonable cost, a few hundreds of 
 dollars, that allows for adjustment of gamma? Bearing in 
 mind the limitations of Gimp in the color management area, 
 what is suggested? I just want to get things close enough 
 that what I send to the printer will bear some relationship 
 to what I see on the screen in Gimp, allowing for (of 
 course) the conversion to CMYK at some point. 
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[Gimp-user] A bit OT: Setting up hp scanjet 7400c

2004-03-28 Thread Vittorio
I've been using an epson 1240 perfection USB scanner for a very long time 
successfully with the Gimp  Xsane (latest stable versions) under linux 
debian testing. 
Now my company has given me an hp scanjet 7400c with ADF which - CONNECTED 
TO  A USB port - I cannot make even start, no sign of activity at all (it 
works corectly under windows XP!) even though I have been trying any 
suggestion provided in the Internet (many many postings and howtos!) to no 
avail.

I wonder if someone out there has been able to set up this scanner under linux 
and how he/she succeeded in it.

Step by step instructions will be highly appreciated.

Thanks Vittorio
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Re: [Gimp-user] Monitor for Gimp

2004-03-28 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

John Culleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I find that my current monitor (Orion 17 inch OC-17DB0725) 
 has adjustments for brightness and contrast but none for 
 gamma.  The venerable Gimp User Manual (GUM) offers 
 instructions for making at least a crude Gamma adjustment. 
 But my monitor has no such adjustment.  and when I load the 
 file recommended by the GUM I find that my monitor is at 
 the high end of the scale for gamma. 

You could use the gamma display filter to get gamma correction for
free.  With a little extra hacking, you'd get full monitor calibration
based on ICC color profiles.


Sven
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[Gimp-user] libexif.so.9

2004-03-28 Thread Dave Smith




I am trying to install the rpm for the new GIMP 2.0 and get an error message saying that I require libexif.so.9 . Try as I might I can't find a Fedora 1 version of this anywhere. Any ideas?

Thanks.

Dave




Re: [Gimp-user] Monitor for Gimp

2004-03-28 Thread John Culleton
On Sunday 28 March 2004 04:15 pm, Jean-Luc wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 02:38:12PM -0500, John Culleton 
wrote:
  I find that my current monitor (Orion 17 inch
  OC-17DB0725) has adjustments for brightness and
  contrast but none for gamma.  The venerable Gimp User
  Manual (GUM) offers instructions for making at least a
  crude Gamma adjustment. But my monitor has no such
  adjustment.  and when I load the file recommended by
  the GUM I find that my monitor is at the high end of
  the scale for gamma.

 The best is to adjust the gamma within the Xfree
 software. There is an application called kgamma and a
 plugin for gkrellm to do such an adjustement.

KGamma for some reason was not included on my LInux 
Slackware 9.1 system so I downloaded the Kgraphics 3.2 
package and am compiling it as I write this.

I had no luck with LProf and sent an inquiry to the authors.
Whenever I tried to load a file it just quit suddenly with 
no error message. 

Is Gamma adjustable on monitors less than $1,000 US?
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Re: [Gimp-user] libexif.so.9

2004-03-28 Thread Elaine Normandy
I have it installed on my Fedora Core system, and I installed the rpm 
from gimp.org without difficulty once I uninstalled gimp 1.2.

Do you use yum?  Try doing the following from a console:

su
enter root password here
yum install libexif
If you have never used yum before, it may take a while.  If yum is not 
installed on your machine, there should be instructions to do so if you 
google for them.  If Synaptic works for you, yum should work as well.

Dave Smith wrote:

I am trying to install the rpm for the new GIMP 2.0 and get an error 
message saying that I require libexif.so.9 . Try as I might I can't 
find a Fedora 1 version of this anywhere. Any ideas?

Thanks.

Dave 


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Re: [Gimp-user] Monitor for Gimp

2004-03-28 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

John Culleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 KGamma for some reason was not included on my LInux 
 Slackware 9.1 system so I downloaded the Kgraphics 3.2 
 package and am compiling it as I write this.

Any text editor to edit your XF86Config would have been sufficient.
But then, it's questionable if a general Gamma adjustment on the X
server level is such a good idea at all. However if you are seeking
for a monitor to do gamma correction, then setting the gamma
adjustment on the X server is probably exactly what you want to do.


Sven
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Re: [Gimp-user] Monitor for Gimp

2004-03-28 Thread John Culleton
On Sunday 28 March 2004 06:57 pm, Sven Neumann wrote:
 Hi,

 John Culleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  KGamma for some reason was not included on my LInux
  Slackware 9.1 system so I downloaded the Kgraphics 3.2
  package and am compiling it as I write this.

 Any text editor to edit your XF86Config would have been
 sufficient. But then, it's questionable if a general
 Gamma adjustment on the X server level is such a good
 idea at all. However if you are seeking for a monitor to
 do gamma correction, then setting the gamma adjustment on
 the X server is probably exactly what you want to do.


 Sven

I learn something new every day! I have been diddling with 
XF86Config for years now, and I never used the optional 
Gamma parameter.  On my particular monitor, with both 
brightness and contrast cranked up all the way, and using 
the gamma test file gamma.tif, the gray rectangle matches 
at about the top of the scale with the monitor at minimum 
zoom.  Top of the scale is 3.0. So is this the setting I 
should use for Gamma in XF86Config? Or, given these 
results,  is my monitor to far gone and do I need a new 
one? 
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