Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-05 Thread Andrea Verdi
i have modified the sources... 2012/5/5 GSR - FR > Hi, > strata_ran...@hotmail.com (2012-05-04 at 2119.16 -0700): > > > OTOH, I no longer have to worry about > > > accidentally flattening my 10-layer composition when saving a PNG and > > > then forgetting to resave as XCF. > > > Chris > > You sh

[Gimp-user] LOVE thread - resource tagging + sub folders = auto tag!!!!

2012-05-05 Thread jfrazierjr
This is a feature I learned about on IRC from Alexia Death. I have to thank her a TON for actually spending the time to really dig into what I was saying to show me the the new tagging feature actually did almost exactly what I was complaining about(I had said tagging was "OK" but I prefer the w

Re: [Gimp-user] LOVE thread - single window mode

2012-05-05 Thread Richard Gitschlag
> Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 17:26:23 -0400 > From: ptilopt...@gmail.com > To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] LOVE thread - single window mode > > * Richard Gitschlag [05-05-12 15:52]: > > > > Now if GIMP would just remember that I want to run it maximized > > > > This may

Re: [Gimp-user] LOVE thread - single window mode

2012-05-05 Thread Steve Kinney
On 05/05/2012 01:23 PM, Paul Read wrote: > LOVE it > > Congrats to the Devs for adding this feature - also the single > reason I jumped to R28 as soon as it was announced Lucky me, it can be turned off. Maybe I will eventually decide that I like it. Can't reasonably say otherwise, it will mos

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-05 Thread GSR - FR
Hi, strata_ran...@hotmail.com (2012-05-04 at 2119.16 -0700): > > OTOH, I no longer have to worry about > > accidentally flattening my 10-layer composition when saving a PNG and > > then forgetting to resave as XCF. > > Chris > You should be saving your .xcf file first, THEN save the PNG copy of > i

Re: [Gimp-user] LOVE thread - single window mode

2012-05-05 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Richard Gitschlag [05-05-12 15:52]: > > Now if GIMP would just remember that I want to run it maximized > This may be a function of your windowmanager, which you failed to mention. KDE has the ability to designate specific windows to maintain size and position in addition to which deskto

Re: [Gimp-user] LOVE thread - single window mode

2012-05-05 Thread Richard Gitschlag
Yse, single-window mode is definitely a new feature to love. I mentioned it elsewhere but in every previous version of GIMP I've used to date, every time I open an image file for any reason the first thing I have to contend with is the fact that it overlaps the toolbox windows. I tried everyt

[Gimp-user] jpeg loss on multiple export

2012-05-05 Thread Gary Aitken
At the risk of committing a mailing list etiquette fopah... I'm reposting as I got no response and I am hoping one of the developers can actually shed light on this: On 5/3/2012 8:15 AM, Jay Smith wrote: Jonathan, I hope that you realized that when editing a JPG, repeatedly saving/exporting t

[Gimp-user] LOVE thread - single window mode

2012-05-05 Thread Paul Read
LOVE it Congrats to the Devs for adding this feature - also the single reason I jumped to R28 as soon as it was announced (a few tweaks to make it reliable on Windows 7 (works ok on WinXP) would be nice but not essential) -- Paul http://www.readiescards.co.uk __

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE thread

2012-05-05 Thread Paul Read
>the save and export stuff is going to stay as specified here: Hurrah :-) Paul On 5 May 2012 18:17, Michael Natterer wrote: > You can stop this crap, the save and export stuff is going to > stay as specified here: > > http://gui.gimp.org/index.php/Save_%2B_export_specification > > Period. Thi

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-05 Thread Richard Gitschlag
> Date: Sat, 5 May 2012 14:19:49 +0800 > From: ngoonee.t...@gmail.com > To: for...@gimpusers.com > CC: t...@gimpusers.com; gimp-user-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior > > ... (single-window on a tiling WM, whee!!) Speaking of which, the new sin

[Gimp-user] Introducing BIMP: Batch Image Manipulation Plugin

2012-05-05 Thread Alessandro Francesconi
Hello everyone, I don't know if it's permitted to do here, but I want inform you about my new GIMP plugin. BIMP isa graphical batch tool made for applying a set of GIMP manipulations on a group of images. It's different from the "old but great" DBP plugin in various (and interesting) aspects...

[Gimp-user] HATE thread

2012-05-05 Thread Michael Natterer
You can stop this crap, the save and export stuff is going to stay as specified here: http://gui.gimp.org/index.php/Save_%2B_export_specification Period. This is the final word in this discussion. Besides, do you guys really think that "HATE" is a good subject for achieving anything? --Mitch

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-05 Thread Chris Mohler
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > However I stlll find it highly disturbing that so many people felt > that the project wasn't doing dccent PR work, and yet noone else > volunteered. If I'm run down by a truck tomorrow, what is the > community going to do about the lac

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-05 Thread Richard Gitschlag
> > Is it really that complicated to change the menus > and dialog boxes or the existence of them based > around user preferences? > [...] > Dan > ___ > gimp-user-list mailing list > gimp-user-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-05 Thread Chris Mohler
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Jay Smith wrote: > c) The developers UTTERLY FAILED to manage public relations on this.  It was > completely obvious to me (from monitoring the discussions on the developer > list) that this subject was going to touch of an enormous storm of anger > among some user

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-05 Thread Chris Mohler
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 11:19 PM, Richard Gitschlag wrote: > You should be saving your .xcf file first, THEN save the PNG copy of it. > Priorities :) Indeed. I also try to "Save As" every hour or so and bump up the version of the XCF. Disk space is cheap ;) But mistakes can happen, particularly

Re: [Gimp-user] For GIMP-2.8 I need Fedora 17 .. which isn't released yet

2012-05-05 Thread Kevin Cozens
On 12-05-04 08:47 AM, Johan Vromans wrote: Anyone managed to build Gimp 2.8 on Fedora 16, 15, 14, ...? As long as you have the required dependencies (or build them for your machine), you should have no trouble building GIMP under any version of Fedora. If you have a specific problem with try

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-05 Thread Steve Kinney
On 05/05/2012 10:30 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > We are not separating people into better of worse users, or the > deserving and non-deserving, or entitled and not entitled. This would > not be a constructive approach. > > What we _are_ doing is _focusing_ on a group of users who are > under

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-05 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Jay Smith wrote: > c) The developers UTTERLY FAILED to manage public relations on this.  It was > completely obvious to me (from monitoring the discussions on the developer > list) that this subject was going to touch of an enormous storm of anger > among some users

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-05 Thread Daniel Smith
I didn't mean for Gimp proper to offer different versions or make it part of the program in preferences etc. I meant where are the files that determine what the dialog boxes and menus say, and where exporting and/or saving are accomplished to? It can't be that hard, you're just talking about meta f

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-05 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Daniel Smith wrote: > Is it really that complicated to change the menus > and dialog boxes or the existence of them based > around user preferences? > Is there a link anywhere to how it's written? > I can guarantee you that when I worked in a big > graphics house the

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-05 Thread Jay Smith
On 05/05/2012 10:30 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Ken Warner wrote: but many posts calling for civility have come from people who want to divide the user base into two groups where one group is somehow more entitled to use GIMP than the other because of the th

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-05 Thread ronald.arvids...@privat.utfors.se
Personally I like these new changes. Alexander is quite correct about that it is notfor not wanting "light users" but adding suport which was not there for those in real need for something more. This something more is that when you work with layers, lots of ioperations, you get all this in the

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-05 Thread Daniel Smith
Is it really that complicated to change the menus and dialog boxes or the existence of them based around user preferences? Is there a link anywhere to how it's written? I can guarantee you that when I worked in a big graphics house they'd find a way to alter them. Dan __

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-05 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Ken Warner wrote: > but many posts calling for civility have come from people who want to divide > the user base into two groups where one group is somehow more entitled to > use GIMP than the other because of the things they do with GIMP. You know, it's quite fru

Re: [Gimp-user] Problem with Gimp 2.7.4 'Text'

2012-05-05 Thread Maurice
On 2012-05-04 at 17:29 I said: > with 2.7.4, the text-entry window is much smaller, with no > apparent adjustment control, and any text entered does not appear in > the white panel. > (But I did discover that one could cut-paste from one to the > other, though the dynamic box seems more diff

Re: [Gimp-user] Problem with Gimp 2.7.4 'Text'

2012-05-05 Thread Maurice
On 2012-05-04 at 20:14 someone said: > mageMagick wil do it: > http://www.imagemagick.org/Usage/text/#text_operators Command-line functions are no good for this job. You need to be looking at the image, so that you can: (1) See what the annotation should be (2) See that the text is positione

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-05 Thread Ofnuts
On 05/05/2012 11:14 AM, Olivier wrote: Just to add one more link to this long thread, do you remember when the Toolbox menus disappeared? How many people whined or screamed because this change ruined their way to use GIMP? How many people spoke about MY workflow, MY habits, MY opinion about this

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-05 Thread Ken Warner
In general, I agree with you Archie. This discussion should be more civil but many posts calling for civility have come from people who want to divide the user base into two groups where one group is somehow more entitled to use GIMP than the other because of the things they do with GIMP. I f

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-05 Thread Olivier
Just to add one more link to this long thread, do you remember when the Toolbox menus disappeared? How many people whined or screamed because this change ruined their way to use GIMP? How many people spoke about MY workflow, MY habits, MY opinion about this stupid change, and threatened to stick to

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-05 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 1:17 AM, John Coppens wrote: > On Fri, 4 May 2012 09:52:32 +0400 > Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > >> We don't know exactly what you do ing GIMP during those unsafe workflows. > > About 90% of the time I load PNGs or jpegs (100s of them), edit them, > and save them back in th

Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

2012-05-05 Thread Archie Arevalo
The classic case of YMMV. Some do love the new GIMP, while others prefer the old layout. Changes can be pretty difficult for others but ... I would camp with Oon-Ee Ng when he wrote, "and it took all of 2 sessions to get used to the change. Face it. There are the GIMP users, and there are those