Re: [Gimp-user] CentOS packanges for 2.8?

2012-07-14 Thread Owen
>>You need to build things in the selected build directory, babl, gegl >>and gimp > >>If glib and gtk versions are too low, you need to build those and >>their dependancies in the selected directory. > >>DO NOT BUILD IN /usr or /usr/local > >>Make sure that the console you are working is the conso

Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.8 usability discussion - Argument consolidation and referencing

2012-07-14 Thread Richard Gitschlag
> Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 14:56:50 -1000 > From: 75270.3...@earthlink.net > To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.8 usability discussion - Argument > consolidation and referencing > > In particular, a problem I encounter with workflow in GIMP is that GIMP > doesn't reall

[Gimp-user] CentOS packanges for 2.8?

2012-07-14 Thread erroneus
>You need to build things in the selected build directory, babl, gegl >and gimp >If glib and gtk versions are too low, you need to build those and >their dependancies in the selected directory. >DO NOT BUILD IN /usr or /usr/local >Make sure that the console you are working is the console that yo

Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp - 2.8 Usability Drop

2012-07-14 Thread Richard Gitschlag
> Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 09:46:00 +0800 > From: ngoonee.t...@gmail.com > To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp - 2.8 Usability Drop > > what 'community' and 'user base' is this that you speak > of? All I see is some individuals with individual opinions and a > varying lack

Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.8 usability discussion - Argument consolidation and referencing

2012-07-14 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 4:56 AM, scott s. wrote: > It seems to me that opening vice import has many of the same issues/ > useability requirements that should be considered. In particular, a > problem I encounter with workflow in GIMP is that GIMP doesn't really > handle (AFAIK) meta-data embedded

Re: [Gimp-user] CentOS packanges for 2.8?

2012-07-14 Thread Owen
>>http://www.gimpusers.com/tutorials/compiling-gimp-for-ubuntu > > Just so you know... I just removed the BABL and GEGL libraries from my > system and attempted to build exactly as the instructions say I > should... well, it says: > > checking for GLIB - version >= 2.28.0... no > *** Could not run

Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.8 usability discussion - Argument consolidation and referencing

2012-07-14 Thread scott s.
On 7/14/2012 04:45, Chris Mohler wrote: On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 5:47 AM, Johannes wrote: This is the consensus so far (correct me if I am wrong): ### CORRECTED There are a handful of people developing GIMP. They are following this: http://gui.gimp.org/index.php/Save_%2B_export_specification

[Gimp-user] CentOS packanges for 2.8?

2012-07-14 Thread erroneus
>http://www.gimpusers.com/tutorials/compiling-gimp-for-ubuntu Just so you know... I just removed the BABL and GEGL libraries from my system and attempted to build exactly as the instructions say I should... well, it says: checking for GLIB - version >= 2.28.0... no *** Could not run GLIB test p

Re: [Gimp-user] CentOS packanges for 2.8?

2012-07-14 Thread Partha Bagchi
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 8:18 PM, erroneus wrote: >>I suggest you read these instructions (ignore the ubuntu bias); > >>http://www.gimpusers.com/tutorials/compiling-gimp-for-ubuntu > >>If that's a whole new world, you will find it an interesting learning >>curve > > It's not a "whole new" world, bu

[Gimp-user] CentOS packanges for 2.8?

2012-07-14 Thread erroneus
>I suggest you read these instructions (ignore the ubuntu bias); >http://www.gimpusers.com/tutorials/compiling-gimp-for-ubuntu >If that's a whole new world, you will find it an interesting learning >curve It's not a "whole new" world, but it's not something I've done in a long while. I would l

Re: [Gimp-user] CentOS packanges for 2.8?

2012-07-14 Thread Owen
>>On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 6:39 PM, erroneus wrote: > I want to be able to run my older version of GNOME with a newer > version of GiMP. How can I resolve this? If the answer is compiling > from source, can I get some hints as to what whole sets of source I > need to get and how to go about inst

[Gimp-user] CentOS packanges for 2.8?

2012-07-14 Thread erroneus
>On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 6:39 PM, erroneus wrote: >> But it has revealed what I believe are philisophical flaws in GiMP and/or >> GNOME which I think should be resolved. >You may see it as a philosophical flow, but I see it as just another >example of duality. >> How do I get this shared with d

Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.8 usability discussion - Argument consolidation and referencing

2012-07-14 Thread Michael Schumacher
On 14.07.2012 19:24, Johannes wrote: Am 14.07.2012 16:45, schrieb Chris Mohler: You can: A: Bitch B: Adapt C: Fork I suggest option B or C - they're likely to be the most productive. In fact, I am preparing option B. Precondition for this is a good understanding of what is to be adapted.

Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.8 usability discussion - Argument consolidation and referencing

2012-07-14 Thread Johannes
Am 14.07.2012 19:24, schrieb Johannes: > not cast perls before > people without arguments. ...and no pearls, too. -- Johannes ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list

Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.8 usability discussion - Argument consolidation and referencing

2012-07-14 Thread Johannes
Am 14.07.2012 16:45, schrieb Chris Mohler: > You can: > > A: Bitch > > B: Adapt > > C: Fork > > I suggest option B or C - they're likely to be the most productive. In fact, I am preparing option B. Precondition for this is a good understanding of what is to be adapted. I don't want my changes

Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.8 usability discussion - Argument consolidation and referencing

2012-07-14 Thread Ken Warner
Well, that is the question isn't it? On 7/14/2012 7:34 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Johannes wrote: Having followed the discussions on the GIMP usability changes for some weeks now, what I am missing most is a direct comparison of arguments. Therefore let's

Re: [Gimp-user] CentOS packanges for 2.8?

2012-07-14 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 6:39 PM, erroneus wrote: > But it has revealed what I believe are philisophical flaws in GiMP and/or > GNOME which I think should be resolved. You mean that GIMP developers sometimes bump dependencies? We don't do it, because we like annoying people. We do it, because ups

Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.8 usability discussion - Argument consolidation and referencing

2012-07-14 Thread Chris Mohler
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 5:47 AM, Johannes wrote: > This is the consensus so far (correct me if I am wrong): ### CORRECTED There are a handful of people developing GIMP. They are following this: http://gui.gimp.org/index.php/Save_%2B_export_specification Based on this: http://gui.gimp.org/index

[Gimp-user] CentOS packanges for 2.8?

2012-07-14 Thread erroneus
>On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 2:02 AM, erroneus wrote: >> Why would developers choose to shut us out like this? >We don't do any Linux packaging. We encourage you to become the first >team member who does it. >Alexandre Prokoudine >http://libregraphicsworld.org I got pretty close last night. Seems

Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.8 usability discussion - Argument consolidation and referencing

2012-07-14 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Johannes wrote: > Having followed the discussions on the GIMP usability changes for some weeks > now, what I am missing most is a direct comparison of arguments. > > Therefore let's consolidate the consensus and the arguments pro and contra > "Making the new open/s

Re: [Gimp-user] CentOS packanges for 2.8?

2012-07-14 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hello gerard82, On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 11:59:22 +0200 gerard82 wrote: > >> This is no way to build an application! Applications and OSes should > >> never be tied so closely together. > >> > >> I like GiMP 2.8 for Windows a lot and would prefer to run it under CentOS > >> as that is my main d

[Gimp-user] GIMP 2.8 usability discussion - Argument consolidation and referencing

2012-07-14 Thread Johannes
Having followed the discussions on the GIMP usability changes for some weeks now, what I am missing most is a direct comparison of arguments. Therefore let's consolidate the consensus and the arguments pro and contra "Making the new open/save/export behavior of GIMP 2.8 optional" by giving arg

[Gimp-user] CentOS packanges for 2.8?

2012-07-14 Thread gerard82
>Hello erroneus, >On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 00:02:29 +0200 >erroneus wrote: >> I've been looking all over but there are just no CentOS (or RHEL for that >> matter) packages for the latest version of GiMP. Compiling from source >> doesn't even seem to be a good option either as it looks as if it wil

Re: [Gimp-user] CentOS packanges for 2.8?

2012-07-14 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hello erroneus, On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 00:02:29 +0200 erroneus wrote: > I've been looking all over but there are just no CentOS (or RHEL for that > matter) packages for the latest version of GiMP. Compiling from source > doesn't even seem to be a good option either as it looks as if it will brea