[Gimp-user] Help with colouring book stamp type images

2012-01-25 Thread NoviceGimper
Thanks Seth - 
Candice

>I've done this for pictures of my family - my daughter loves coloring us.
> It works best on pictures without a lot of noise to them, but my "recipe"
>assuming a flattened (1 layer) image is:

>1) Blur->Selective Gaussian Blur - use parameters to get rid of details but
>keep main subject sharp
>2) Colors->Desaturate (I usually use Average, but not sure it matters)
>3) Edge-Detect->Difference of Gaussians with about 8/33 as the 2 radiuses
>gets me some basic lines that work good for this on SLR-size photos, use
>smaller for values near the same ratio for smaller pictures.  Goal is to
>get an outline of the salient features only.
>4) Colors->Levels... to make sharp black lines
>5) Blur slightly if necessary
>6) Save As.. & Print
>7) Open box of crayolas and go nuts

>If you want to do more of a fake-crayon drawing to wow your friends, change
>the levels step to have very light grey output instead of dark black; then
>trace the light grey with heavy crayon before coloring in/shading with
>lighter shades.  As a bit of warning, eyeballs and cheekbones are amazingly
>hard to get right!

>Happy GIMPing,

>Seth Burgess




>On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Chris Mohler  wrote:

>> On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 4:45 PM, NoviceGimper 
>> wrote:
>> > deally I want to literally make the image look like colouring book
>> picture or a stamp.
>>
>> Try:
>>
>> Filters->Edge Detect->Edge...
>> Use defaults, click OK
>> Image->Mode->Grayscale
>> Colors->Invert
>>
>> Possibly adjust Levels/Curves afterward.
>>
>> HTH,
>> Chris
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[Gimp-user] Help with colouring book stamp type images

2012-01-25 Thread NoviceGimper
Thanks Chris!

>On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 4:45 PM, NoviceGimper  wrote:
>> deally I want to literally make the image look like colouring book picture 
>> or a stamp.

>Try:

>Filters->Edge Detect->Edge...
>Use defaults, click OK
>Image->Mode->Grayscale
>Colors->Invert

>Possibly adjust Levels/Curves afterward.

>HTH,
>Chris


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[Gimp-user] Help with colouring book stamp type images

2012-01-23 Thread NoviceGimper
Hi there again

I want to make colouring book pictures for my students from photographs of 
themselves (want to see kids get excited about something - give them a picture 
of themselves to colour in).  Right now I am using the cartoon filter, 
desaturating the image and then painstakingly selecting by colour, each 
greyscaled set of pixels and then cutting them so that in effect, the image 
becomes a traced black and white image.  I am wondering if there is an easier 
way to do this - I have tried using the threshold and levels filters - but I 
find that it makes the image too pop-arty, like those Che Guevara type T-shirt 
graphics.  Ideally I want to literally make the image look like colouring book 
picture or a stamp. Is there an easier way to do that without having to pick 
and delete the greyscaled parts of the image? Any help would be appreciated.  
Thanks
Candice

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[Gimp-user] Rene from Sydney's brilliant Gimp for HP install solution

2012-01-22 Thread NoviceGimper
Hi Michael - I understand what you are saying but it only worked for me when I 
did it this way - I tried the surgery on the original version that I downloaded 
but couldnt get it to work.  Maybe there was something corrupt with that 
version.the second download seemed to work better.  But if you can get it 
to work without all the "superfluos" steps then cool.  Having said that - I 
still am grateful to Rene for answering my question and providing a detailed 
solution when it was asked 

>On 22.01.2012 13:23, NoviceGimper wrote:
>> This post is for HP users who are struggling to get GIMP to install 
>> correctly.  All credit for this goes to Rene from Sydney (on this forum) who 
>> gave me step-by-step instructions on how to to get the installation problems 
>> sorted out for HP computers.  (Eternal thanks to you)I am reposting the 
>> instructions here for other HP users who are having the same installation 
>> problems - maybe we could have these instructions in the FAQ of the GIMP 
>> website. I dont know about anyone else but just renaming the file didnt work 
>> for me - however this worked like a magic trick.  Again - this solution must 
>> be credited to Rene.
>>
>> Here Goes:
>>
>> 1.  Deinstall GIMP 2.6 (If you tried to install and got the entry point 
>> error)

>Why?

>> 2.  Open computer/C-drive/Windows/System 32 and search for intl.dll
>> 3.  Rename the intl.dll file to intl.bak
>> 4.  Close the "System32" window

>These are the steps that get GIMP plug-ins running in this scenario.

>> 5.  Download and install GIMP 2.6 - when it has installed you might get the 
>> same entry point error message again - exit through all the entry point 
>> windows until it launches the "incomplete" programme (this means when the 
>> programme can open a blank canvas, but cant do much else because of all the 
>> missing .exe.

>Why download and install GIMP again?

>> 6.  Close GIMP

>That should be step 0.

>> 7.  Open computer/Local Disk C/Program Files (or whereever your pc saves 
>> your programmes to)
>> 8.  Search for GIMP-2.0 and open.  Open bin. Search for intl.dll and copy 
>> the file
>> 9.  Paste the "intl.dll" file into GIMP-2.0/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins and close 
>> window.

>You won't need steps 2-4 and 10-11 then.

>But you'll have the same problem again if GIMP ships with a newer 
>version of libintl.

>> 10. Go back into computer/local Disk C/Windows/System 32 and search for 
>> intl.bak
>> 11. select and rename intl.bak into intl.dll.

>12. Ask HP when they will fix that from their side.




>Regards,
>Michael


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[Gimp-user] Rene from Sydney's brilliant Gimp for HP install solution

2012-01-22 Thread NoviceGimper
This post is for HP users who are struggling to get GIMP to install correctly.  
All credit for this goes to Rene from Sydney (on this forum) who gave me 
step-by-step instructions on how to to get the installation problems sorted out 
for HP computers.  (Eternal thanks to you)I am reposting the instructions 
here for other HP users who are having the same installation problems - maybe 
we could have these instructions in the FAQ of the GIMP website. I dont know 
about anyone else but just renaming the file didnt work for me - however this 
worked like a magic trick.  Again - this solution must be credited to Rene.

Here Goes:

1.  Deinstall GIMP 2.6 (If you tried to install and got the entry point error)
2.  Open computer/C-drive/Windows/System 32 and search for intl.dll
3.  Rename the intl.dll file to intl.bak
4.  Close the "System32" window
5.  Download and install GIMP 2.6 - when it has installed you might get the 
same entry point error message again - exit through all the entry point windows 
until it launches the "incomplete" programme (this means when the programme can 
open a blank canvas, but cant do much else because of all the missing .exe.
6.  Close GIMP
7.  Open computer/Local Disk C/Program Files (or whereever your pc saves your 
programmes to)
8.  Search for GIMP-2.0 and open.  Open bin. Search for intl.dll and copy the 
file
9.  Paste the "intl.dll" file into GIMP-2.0/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins and close 
window.
10. Go back into computer/local Disk C/Windows/System 32 and search for intl.bak
11. select and rename intl.bak into intl.dll.

If the system does not allow you to rename the intl.bak file because it is 
"open".  Shut down and restart your pc and then try again from step 10 (this is 
what happened to me but restarting Windows allowed me to change the file name 
back to intl.dll

So far I havent noticed or encountered any other problems with GIMP by copying 
and depositing the intl.dll file from its bin to it's plug-ins.  Its starts up 
perfectly and as far as I have managed to test - all the functions seem to be 
working.

I hope this helps this HP users who are as naive as me when it comes to 
fiddling with computers and are struggling for step-by=step instructions.
 
9.  



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[Gimp-user] Startup problems

2012-01-21 Thread NoviceGimper

Excellent - I also wondered if I could copy the the file into Gimp folder.  But 
like I said - too naive on a computer so I was nervous to try anything.
 
You are wonderfully kind - thanks again for your brilliant help.  Going to try 
doing this tomorrow evening when I have some time.

Candice
(totally overcast but hot and humid as any other regular Summery day in South 
Africa)




>Hi Candice, Let me spell it out again with my sincere apologies to all the 
>non-HP GIMP users for boring them to tears but not eternally I hope!

>On my HP ProBook 4730s I had indeed managed to install GIMP by first changing 
>the HP version of intl.dll into intl.bak. For further reference the GIMP 
>installer had created a head directory GIMP-2.0 in the C:/Program Files of my 
>HP.

>To get the flavour of GIMP I just used it for some image manipulations I 
>routinely use with Photoshop on my old Dell, a rather expensive software which 
>cannot be transferred to my new HP. I was impressed by GIMP which is free-ware 
>after all.

>Then of course I returned my HP to its original set-up by changing intl.bak 
>into intl.dll because I had found out with earlier attempts that the HP login 
>would no longer work without that file and had to be by-passed just to regain 
>control --- that depends how you customised your HP in the first place. Once 
>the HP login procedure is returned to normal the activation of Gimp fails. (At 
>once script-fu.exe cannot find something in that intl.dll library.) No use to 
>complain to HP. I got nowhere with HP support on the matter of their login 
>procedure for their ProBok S-series, whether some GIMP users might deem that 
>procedure "broken" or not.

>I thought you would have to repeat the procedure used to install GIMP each 
>time you'd want to use GIMP. A bit of a pain...  However Kevin Brubeck 
>Unhammer wondered if one could not circumvent GIMP's "plug-in" problem on the 
>HP by copying GIMP's intl.dll into any GIMP subdirectory containing a plug-in. 
>At least this couldn't interfere with anything but GIMP.  Thus I copied the 
>intl.dll file from GIMP-2.0/bin into GIMP-2.0/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins where all 
>the plug-ins seem to be collected (including the script-fu.exe above) and 
>presto I was in business! The results of running again my previous tests were 
>just as expected BUT only a GIMP expert could tell us if this is the solution 
>of the HP problem. I have some doubt that it is that simple otherwise it would 
>have been already known... Thanks to Kevin anyway for his suggestion and 
>greetings from (wet) Sydney. René.

>> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 21:14:31 +0100
>> From: for...@gimpusers.com
>> To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
>> CC: t...@gimpusers.com
>> Subject: [Gimp-user] Startup problems
>> 
>> Hello
>> 
>> Thanks for your help.  I was not able to access the net sooner so I am sorry 
>> for the late reply.  I guess then what I need to do is (- please may you 
>> correct me if I have misunderstood your advice)
>> 
>> 1.  deinstall Gimp and all its components
>> 2.  open Windows system 32 file - find intl.dll - and then rename it to 
>> intl.bak
>> 3.  download and reinstall Gimp 
>> 4.  Upon reattempt at installation of Gimp in theory, it should then not 
>> recognise or confuse System32's intl.dll (now called intl.bak) with its own 
>> thus installing itself correctly with all its extensions 
>> 5.  reopen Windows32 system folder and rename intl.bak to the original 
>> intl.dll
>> 
>> Hope I have it right?  I can see how it should work if it is confusing HP's 
>> System32 intl.dll with it's own.
>> 
>> One more question if you would oblige - do I have to do this -every time 
>> that I start up Gimp or just this once when installing it?
>> 
>> Thanks so much for you time again.
>> 
>> Candice





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[Gimp-user] Misleading reply to a FAQ for installing a GIMP2.6 Windows 7-32 executable

2012-01-20 Thread NoviceGimper
Thanks - help much appreciated - I am going to try and deinstall - rename the 
file - reinstall- return the renamed file to it's original name upon 
installation of Gimp - as someone (perhaps you) kindly suggested - hope it 
works.


>Evan Neumann  writes:

>> Let the kids finger paint over the cracked walls. 
>>
>> As far as Gimp. I don't know about the other issues, but rename intl dll 
>> intl-old.dll
>>
>> Then re-install Gimp.
>>
>> There is no feasible way to hold someone's hand through troubleshooting Gimp 
>> though. Because it is open source there are morose bugs that a user must 
>> muddle through when things go wrong.

>Perhaps that generalisation has merit, perhaps not, but in this case the
>fault lies with HP. I note that 
>Renatus  writes:
>> However intl.dll in folder Windows\System32 was hardly placed there by some 
>> broken
>> application. It is used by LoginUI.exe, the user interface for the logon 
>> screen!

>– well, the assumption is wrong. LoginUI.exe is in fact a broken
>application, part of HP's "personalisation", and it places a broken
>version of intl.dll in the Windows system directory. This overrides the
>file that GIMP expects to be there.  

>If anything, the problem is that GIMP expects the Windows install not to
>be screwed up by HP. If you own an HP computer, it might help to
>complain to them.

>Anyway, if you use PortableGIMP, this comment seems to give a solution:
>http://portableapps.com/node/1598#comment-11104

>-Kevin


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[Gimp-user] Startup problems

2012-01-20 Thread NoviceGimper
Hello

Thanks for your help.  I was not able to access the net sooner so I am sorry 
for the late reply.  I guess then what I need to do is (- please may you 
correct me if I have misunderstood your advice)

1.  deinstall Gimp and all its components
2.  open Windows system 32 file - find intl.dll - and then rename it to intl.bak
3.  download and reinstall Gimp 
4.  Upon reattempt at installation of Gimp in theory, it should then not 
recognise or confuse System32's intl.dll (now called intl.bak) with its own 
thus installing itself correctly with all its extensions 
5.  reopen Windows32 system folder and rename intl.bak to the original intl.dll

Hope I have it right?  I can see how it should work if it is confusing HP's 
System32 intl.dll with it's own.

One more question if you would oblige - do I have to do this -every time that I 
start up Gimp or just this once when installing it?

Thanks so much for you time again.

Candice




>"NoviceGimper", your first query was not at all posted to the wrong thread. I 
>also tried to install GIMP-2.0 on my new HP ProBook running Windows 7 (WIN32) 
>and got conflict between the intl.dll (a small 44KB Dynamic Link Library used 
>by the HP logon procedure; the file is in the subdirectory C:/Windows/System32 
>together with intl.cpl, a Control Panel item).  The reason is that GIMP has 
>its own intl.dll much larger library (165KB), whence all these missing items 
>because GIMP looks first into C:/Windows/System32 and finds the HP intl.dll 
>which has nothing to do with it. The FAQ we both refer to is IMO misleading 
>inasmuch as one should not remove the intl.dll found on the HP --- it is 
>hardly "broken" ! --- otherwise the HP logon procedure will stall and you'll 
>be in trouble if you erased it. Made weary of such a rash procedure I simply 
>had changed its extension to intl.bak and once I had regained control I simply 
>changed it back. Meanwhile GIMP-2.0 was correctly installed and worked as far 
>as I could tell. But I only tried GIMP because on my new HP I cannot use the 
>copy of PhotoShop I bought for my old Dell. Thus it was more 
>important/convenient for me to return my HP to its original  logon procedure. 
>Too bad for GIMP. I would have expected of GIMP to look first in its own stock 
>of DLL's as indeed do the Computer Algebra Systems I am familiar with but 
>apparently this is not possible. Jernej Simončič replied to me that: >> 
>Because the DLL search path in Windows is roughly "executable directory,
>>> Windows\System32, Windows, %PATH%". Unfortunately, GIMP's plug-ins are all
>>> individual executables, but they don't reside in the same directory as
>>> gimp.exe, and as such look for DLLs in the System32 directory before
>>> looking in GIMP's install dir.
> In that case I can only suggest to try the following procedure (at your own 
> risk if your HP differs from mine!). Logon as usual and just before 
> installing and then using GIMP change the HP intl.dll into intl.bak (assuming 
> you give yourself the authority to do so). After you have finishd with GIMP 
> do not forget to return intl.bak to its original extension: intl.dll Well 
> that is not very nice but not as rash (foolish?) as deleting the original 
> intl.dll and I cannot suggest anything else nor did anyone else so far.  I 
> wish GIMP and/or HP would have used a more specific and imaginative file name 
> than intl !!! René.> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 14:51:18 +0100
>> From: for...@gimpusers.com
>> To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
>> CC: t...@gimpusers.com
>> Subject: [Gimp-user] Startup problems
>> 
>> Hi there 
>> 
>> I think I may have posted this question into the wrong thread.  Hoping 
>> someone can help me.  I have become quite fond of GIMP and use it to make 
>> posters, images and colouring pages for my classroom.  I recently was given 
>> a new HP Probook 4530s with Intel Core i5 processor and it is running 
>> Windows 7.  I tried to download and install Gimp 2.6 but when I start up I 
>> get an error saying:  The procedure entry point libintl_setlocale could not 
>> be located in the dynamic link library intl.dll.
>> 
>> On the Gimp FAQ - it says that this is a fault connected to HP machines and 
>> that a broken app placed the file in the system32 directory.  It also says 
>> that I should rename the file and it should work.
>> 
>> I am not quite computer savvy - so I would like someone in the know to help 
>> me out here.
>> 
>> 1.  What should I rename the file to?  And should I move the file from the 
>> system 32 folder to like some Gimp folder?
>> 
>> 2.  Some other HP user said that renaming the file interefered with som

[Gimp-user] Startup problems

2012-01-17 Thread NoviceGimper
Hi there 

I think I may have posted this question into the wrong thread.  Hoping someone 
can help me.  I have become quite fond of GIMP and use it to make posters, 
images and colouring pages for my classroom.  I recently was given a new HP 
Probook 4530s with Intel Core i5 processor and it is running Windows 7.  I 
tried to download and install Gimp 2.6 but when I start up I get an error 
saying:  The procedure entry point libintl_setlocale could not be located in 
the dynamic link library intl.dll.

On the Gimp FAQ - it says that this is a fault connected to HP machines and 
that a broken app placed the file in the system32 directory.  It also says that 
I should rename the file and it should work.

I am not quite computer savvy - so I would like someone in the know to help me 
out here.

1.  What should I rename the file to?  And should I move the file from the 
system 32 folder to like some Gimp folder?

2.  Some other HP user said that renaming the file interefered with some Logon 
User Interface - I am not going to pretend like I even understand what this 
means - but it reads as if merely renaming the file caused something else to 
malfunction.  

Like I said earlier - I am very naive when it comes to computers and how they 
work so may I please ask someone who has successfully resolved the problem to 
talk me through step-by-step (I mean like seriously treat me as if I am someone 
who has just learned to turn a PC on) on how to fix this problem.

I sont even know what to rename the offending system 32 file.  Is that intl.dll 
file the system32 file for windows - or does it contain all the files for Gimp 
including legitimate Windows files.  Uuuurgh - so confusing.
As far as I can see when I start up Gimp - all the plug-ins and things like 
web-browser.exe files cannot be found.  I dont know what registry items and all 
that in-the-know pc speak is all about.  I really need my hand held on this. 

Can anyone help out a naive schoolteacher in Africa with this?  Anyone?  Sorry 
if I posted this twice by accident (told ya - dumb pc user I am!)

Thanks


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[Gimp-user] Misleading reply to a FAQ for installing a GIMP2.6 Windows 7-32 executable

2012-01-17 Thread NoviceGimper

Hi - I was wondering if you managed to resolve this issue.  I have the same 
problem - and I have an HP Probook4530s with a CORE i5 processor.  I am not 
that clued up with computers or how they work so I need someone to hold my hand 
through this process.  I also get the "The procedure entry point 
libintl_snprintf could not be located in the dynamic link library intl.dll." 
error when I try to start GIMP. 
I went into System 32 files and found the intl.dll file - but what exactly must 
I rename itto (as advised by the FAQ section).  

And as I see in this post - it causes some other logon problem - and I dont 
know what this means or what he is even talking about.  But whatever it is I 
dont want it to do the same on my pc.  

Can some kind person please walk me through the fix process step-by-step (like 
you are talking to someone who is a real idiot).

Please - I do like GIMP and I am using it to make posters and images for my 
classroom - so it will be great if someone can help me outand the children 
will have something better to look at than broken and cracked walls







>I just got started with GIMP2.6 but only after reading (and acting on the 
>advice of) the following item in the FAQ list: > FAQ: I'm getting The 
>procedure entry point libintl_snprintf could not be located in the dynamic 
>link library intl.dll. when I try to run GIMP or use plug-ins. How do I fix 
>it?>> Some broken application placed a file named intl.dll to your 
>Windows orWindows\System32 directory. Rename it, and GIMP will work fine. On 
>my HP under Windows 7-32 it is true that GIMP2.6  was installed only when 
>intl.dll was renamed and then it worked fine. However intl.dll in folder 
>Windows\System32 was hardly placed there by some broken application. It is 
>used by LoginUI.exe, the user interface for the logon screen! When intl.dll is 
>restored to recover the use of that interface then GIMP2.6 ceases to function. 
>Is there a better and safe way out of that predicament (which IMO should  then 
>replace the unwise FAQ reply reproduced above)? Many thanks for any reply or 
>for in
 dicating a way to search the archives of this mail list for some answers.




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