Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.1.4 filepicker
Hi, Sven Neumann wrote: > See my other response in this thread. The error that the original > poster was seeing when starting up GIMP is completely unrelated to the > installation prefix he has choosen. He simply forgot to run ldconfig. Ah - I was under the impression that libtool took care of that at install time nowadays. > You should perhaps have mentioned that there's also "Open Location" in > the toolbox which offers an entry to paste URLs or filenames to. Ah - I would have if I'd thought of it :) Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary, Lyon, France E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CV: http://dneary.free.fr/CV/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.1.4 filepicker
Hi, David Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You may have tried to install the GIMP 2.1 into the same > directory as the old GIMP, and this does not work. It's > documented in the "README" file, which you read, of course. ;) > > I don't know how those errors manifest themselves, and I would > have expected something more subtle than this, but however... See my other response in this thread. The error that the original poster was seeing when starting up GIMP is completely unrelated to the installation prefix he has choosen. He simply forgot to run ldconfig. > You can use the old 2.0 plug-ins by doing something like "ln -s > /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins ~/.gimp-2.1/plug-ins ", but then you > will not have all the bug-fixes and previews which have gone into > the 2.1 series. This won't work with 2.1.4 though since we accidentally broke the wire protocol. It will work again with 2.1.5 (or current CVS). > No, this isn't the case. Perhaps you are missing the icon themes, > which are an optional but reccommended component for the GIMP? He is missing at least one of the following: - an icon theme that provides the icons - the shared-mime-info package - an entry in ~/.gtkrc-2.0 that tells gtk+ to use the icon theme (for example: gtk-icon-theme-name = "gnome") Alternatively upgrading to a recent GTK+-2.4 release would have fixed the problem. You should perhaps have mentioned that there's also "Open Location" in the toolbox which offers an entry to paste URLs or filenames to. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.1.4 filepicker
Hi, Changing an inaccuracy... David Neary wrote: > Ctrl-F (Find) brings up a filename entry dialog box where you can > paste URLs or file paths. This is actually Ctrl-L (Location). Sorry :) Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary, Lyon, France E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CV: http://dneary.free.fr/CV/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.1.4 filepicker
Hi, This is mostly a binch of tips (and a disclaimer - I haven't read the rest of the thread yet, so these may be duplicates)... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I tried to build 2.1.4 and kind of succeeded, but it couldn't open files. I > could barely start it, actually. THere was dozens of error messages during > startup from the local dir about "libgimpwidgets-2.0-104" couldn't be located. You may have tried to install the GIMP 2.1 into the same directory as the old GIMP, and this does not work. It's documented in the "README" file, which you read, of course. ;) I don't know how those errors manifest themselves, and I would have expected something more subtle than this, but however... > And even with a full install that's right: It's not on disk. Nor did the > installation routine relink "gimp" to the new binary. This is normal - since 2.1.x is a development series, we assume that you will be doing day-to-day work with 2.0.x, and we leave the gimp linking to gimp-2.0. > I finally gave up and > deleted the whole thing - it could only open xfc files, no "plugins" worked, > and the filepicker has become an unusable mess... What on earth happened to the > it? I can't use it anymore :((( For the files, this is because xcf is loaded and saved in the core, while every other format goes through a plug-in. Since libgimp is not found, the plug-ins don't load, and are thus not available. You can use the old 2.0 plug-ins by doing something like "ln -s /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins ~/.gimp-2.1/plug-ins ", but then you will not have all the bug-fixes and previews which have gone into the 2.1 series. > There is nowhere to paste in the URLs (filepath/name). Ctrl-F (Find) brings up a filename entry dialog box where you can paste URLs or file paths. > I used to browse my > galleries in mozilla, and then paste the url/filepath+name into the gimp > filepicker. If this is your preferred way to browse files, then you might consider dragging and dropping the URLs from the Location bar into the toolbox of the GIMP. This even works for remote images in web-pages, and drag & drop also works with multiple files, you can drop files to the layers dock to have them added as layers to your image, and D&D also works for lots of other things (colours, patterns, layer previews, etc). > I tested it under Gnome too: There I can see icons at least. But I can't use > Gnome for other reasons. I guess it all means that the Gimp has changed from a > Gtk app to a Gnome app. No, this isn't the case. Perhaps you are missing the icon themes, which are an optional but reccommended component for the GIMP? Regards, Dave. -- David Neary, Lyon, France E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CV: http://dneary.free.fr/CV/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.1.4 filepicker
Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > My main worry is that someone out there has introduced a filepicker > I can't use. See mail subject. My workflow is seriously hampered by > it. It shows no folder icons. I can't type filenames in it. The two > applications I use the most; Mozilla (Gtk2) and Gimp, are now using > a filepicker I can't use. THAT is a major problem. Probably to more > than me. That could have been fixed as easily if only you would have asked nicely. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.1.4 filepicker
Sitat Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: () > > "libgimpwidgets-2.0-104" couldn't be located. And even with a full > > install that's right: It's not on disk. Nor did the installation > > routine relink "gimp" to the new binary. I finally gave up and > > deleted the whole thing - it could only open xfc files, no "plugins" > > worked. > > Your problem would be easily fixed and we would have been happy to > tell you how. But since you decided to write a rant instead of asking > for help I can only ask you not to use a development version. > > > Sven > As I wrote, it is deleted. My main worry is NOT that I've grown too stupid to build it properly. I've managed to build it since version 0.8 so I'll get the hang of it yet again. My main worry is that someone out there has introduced a filepicker I can't use. See mail subject. My workflow is seriously hampered by it. It shows no folder icons. I can't type filenames in it. The two applications I use the most; Mozilla (Gtk2) and Gimp, are now using a filepicker I can't use. THAT is a major problem. Probably to more than me. The past weeks, since Mozilla broke their filepicker and upgraded to the Gtk2 version, I have - for the first time in 5 years - had to boot into WinXP, to get some work done. I now find that Gimp developers too have decided for the same filepicker. The least usable filepicker I've ever come across. I hope someone responsible can stimulate the developers to reconsider their choise of Gimp filepicker. A file handling tool that doesn't indicate the difference between directories and files, and doesn't have an editor field where users can type/paste filenames... is like.. well.. like having a web-browser without URL-bar and images. Unusable for any serious work. Sorry if what I previously wrote came through as a rant. My only (but very *good*) excuse is that using WinXP makes me extremely irritable. Good luck to your all - Gimp Gods et al. - I trust you'll do the right thing. Unsubscribing from the newsgroup - CC eventual replies. Thank you. R.K.Aa. ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.1.4 filepicker
Hi, Owen Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Did you build it in a different prefix to your Gimp-2.0.4. If you > didn't, then for sure all hell will break loose. It isn't really that bad. Actually nothing bad will happen besides that you won't any longer be able to compile plug-ins for GIMP 2.0 because the 2.1 installation overwrites a few files from GIMP 2.0. Plug-in compilation will pick up the GIMP 2.1 headers and libraries then. The warning in the README exagerates a bit since it is in general a good idea to install into a different prefix since we don't want to be responsible if the 2.1 installation breaks GIMP 2.0. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.1.4 filepicker
Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I tried to build 2.1.4 and kind of succeeded, but it couldn't open > files. I could barely start it, actually. THere was dozens of error > messages during startup from the local dir about > "libgimpwidgets-2.0-104" couldn't be located. And even with a full > install that's right: It's not on disk. Nor did the installation > routine relink "gimp" to the new binary. I finally gave up and > deleted the whole thing - it could only open xfc files, no "plugins" > worked. Your problem would be easily fixed and we would have been happy to tell you how. But since you decided to write a rant instead of asking for help I can only ask you not to use a development version. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.1.4 filepicker
On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I tried to build 2.1.4 and kind of succeeded, but it couldn't open files. I > could barely start it, actually. THere was dozens of error messages during > startup from the local dir about "libgimpwidgets-2.0-104" couldn't be located. You do not give many clues! You are aware that 2.1.4 is a development version, and the README has words to the effect "All hell may break loose when installing this program"? Did you build it in a different prefix to your Gimp-2.0.4. If you didn't, then for sure all hell will break loose. Owen ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.1.4 filepicker
I tried to build 2.1.4 and kind of succeeded, but it couldn't open files. I could barely start it, actually. THere was dozens of error messages during startup from the local dir about "libgimpwidgets-2.0-104" couldn't be located. And even with a full install that's right: It's not on disk. Nor did the installation routine relink "gimp" to the new binary. I finally gave up and deleted the whole thing - it could only open xfc files, no "plugins" worked, and the filepicker has become an unusable mess... What on earth happened to the it? I can't use it anymore :((( There is nowhere to paste in the URLs (filepath/name). I used to browse my galleries in mozilla, and then paste the url/filepath+name into the gimp filepicker. Now I instead have to click myself dizzy to get anywhere. I can't figure out where i can paste/write in the new filepicker. And to complicate things further: There is no indication what is folders and what is files when i run under KDE. I tested it under Gnome too: There I can see icons at least. But I can't use Gnome for other reasons. I guess it all means that the Gimp has changed from a Gtk app to a Gnome app. This is very sad as it means 2.1.* is made extremely hard to use under KDE. PLEASE change the filepicker back to the old one?! Unhappy Gimp-user R.K.Aa. ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
