Re: [Gimp-user] gimp_file_load_layer(s) not found

2009-01-18 Thread Mark J. Reed
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Sven Neumann  wrote:
> As far as we know GIMP 2.6.4 has less known bugs than any GIMP 2.4.x
> release.

As far as you know, sure.  There hasn't been as much time to find bugs
in 2.6.4 as there has been to find bugs in 2.4.x.   I apologize for
overstating; I should have said "still potentially buggy" instead of
"still somewhat buggy".  I love 2.6; I like the UI redesign; upgrading
Gimp was what motivated me to upgrade my Ubuntu installation.  But it
does represent a significant change from 2.4, so I think caution is
understandable at this stage.  That's all I was saying.  I did not
intend to cast aspersions on the 2.6 line.

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Re: [Gimp-user] gimp_file_load_layer(s) not found

2009-01-18 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

On Sun, 2009-01-18 at 11:44 -0500, Mark J. Reed wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Kevin Cozens  wrote:
> > If CentOS 6 is only planning on making GIMP 2.4 available you will still 
> > have
> > an old version of GIMP.
> 
> Gimp 2.6 is less than a year old and still somewhat buggy.  I can see
> people trying to maintain a stable platform not wanting to jump to it
> yet.

As far as we know GIMP 2.6.4 has less known bugs than any GIMP 2.4.x
release. Perhaps you back up your point by pointing out particular bugs
in GIMP 2.6.4 that are not in GIMP 2.4 ?


Sven


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Re: [Gimp-user] gimp_file_load_layer(s) not found

2009-01-18 Thread Kate T. Yoak
Thanks, Mark, for a thoughtful reply. You are right about CentOS. Those 
who want latest-and-greatest use Fedora.  CentOS is designed for 
stability.  I read that somewhere.  :-)

A couple of missing functions didn't offend me and I got around them. 
The saving to .psd issue - well, that's more irritating - but I was able 
to get people who need to use the output to install Gimp.  The primary 
output I am generating is, of course, the actual image files, Jpegs.
> If you're trying to do programmed image manipulation from a web app,
> the Gimp might not be the best choice.  Have you considered
> alternatives?  Perhaps ImageMagick?
>   

Yes, I've been using ImageMagick for a long time.

In this particular case, I was excited to try out Gimp because it 
enables me to manipulate psd files & layers. What I wound up coming up 
with is so beautiful, it hurts.  I am truly grateful for the existence 
of Gimp API in the end. I am tempted to pollute the list by telling you 
all about the neat idea.  But that's what happens as you get wiser - you 
learn to resist your temptations.  Yes, even on the internet!

Thanks everyone again! Especially Mark. He gets a ribbon for named pipes!
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Re: [Gimp-user] gimp_file_load_layer(s) not found

2009-01-18 Thread Mark J. Reed
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Kevin Cozens  wrote:
> If CentOS 6 is only planning on making GIMP 2.4 available you will still have
> an old version of GIMP.

Gimp 2.6 is less than a year old and still somewhat buggy.  I can see
people trying to maintain a stable platform not wanting to jump to it
yet.  Especially for a desktop app in what is primarily a server
distro.   Also, CentOS is designed to track Red Hat, so it's probably
the RH folks making the call.

> You should ask them to include a current release of
> GIMP. If they don't want to do that, it might be worth changing to distro that
> provides more current versions of software.

Perhaps, but reinstalling Linux is a lot scarier than upgrading a few
packages or even upgrading to a new version of the same distro.

If you're trying to do programmed image manipulation from a web app,
the Gimp might not be the best choice.  Have you considered
alternatives?  Perhaps ImageMagick?
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Re: [Gimp-user] gimp_file_load_layer(s) not found

2009-01-18 Thread Kevin Cozens
Kate T. Yoak wrote:
> Bigger sigh.  :-) Upgrading to 2.4 on CentOS is a feat. A lot of 
> non-supported rpms to track down.  Too scary.  :-)  No loading layers 
> for me!  They say, CentOS 6 is expected to come with gimp 2.4.  There is 
> hoping!

If CentOS 6 is only planning on making GIMP 2.4 available you will still have 
an old version of GIMP. You should ask them to include a current release of 
GIMP. If they don't want to do that, it might be worth changing to distro that 
provides more current versions of software.

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Re: [Gimp-user] gimp_file_load_layer(s) not found

2009-01-17 Thread Kate T. Yoak
Kate T. Yoak wrote:
>
>> The reason you are having a problem is because you are using a very 
>> old version of GIMP. GIMP 2.2 is no longer supported. The file load 
>> operations you
>> are asking were added in the 2.4 version of GIMP.
>>
>>   
> Sigh.  CentOS rpm is 2.2.  Never even occurred to me to check!
> Kind of like never occurred to me (until everything broke) that `cpan 
> install Gimp` gets you a version, which was superceded in 2004! Has 
> anyone noticed the Gimp disaster on CPAN I am referring to?
>
> Oh well. The main thing is: Gimp exists and it's so nice, the pain is 
> worth it!
>
Bigger sigh.  :-) Upgrading to 2.4 on CentOS is a feat. A lot of 
non-supported rpms to track down.  Too scary.  :-)  No loading layers 
for me!  They say, CentOS 6 is expected to come with gimp 2.4.  There is 
hoping!
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Re: [Gimp-user] gimp_file_load_layer(s) not found

2009-01-17 Thread Kate T. Yoak

> The reason you are having a problem is because you are using a very old 
> version of GIMP. GIMP 2.2 is no longer supported. The file load operations you
> are asking were added in the 2.4 version of GIMP.
>
>   
Sigh.  CentOS rpm is 2.2.  Never even occurred to me to check!
Kind of like never occurred to me (until everything broke) that `cpan 
install Gimp` gets you a version, which was superceded in 2004! Has 
anyone noticed the Gimp disaster on CPAN I am referring to?

Oh well. The main thing is: Gimp exists and it's so nice, the pain is 
worth it!

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Re: [Gimp-user] gimp_file_load_layer(s) not found

2009-01-17 Thread Kevin Cozens
Kate Yoak wrote:
> The two functions, gimp_file_load_layer and layers, which I located in 
> my local installation's Xtns browser are not found by perl-gimp on the 
> server.  It says, " function/macro "gimp_file_load_layers" not found in 
> Gimp"
[snip]
> GIMP version 2.2.13

The reason you are having a problem is because you are using a very old 
version of GIMP. GIMP 2.2 is no longer supported. The file load operations you
are asking were added in the 2.4 version of GIMP.

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Re: [Gimp-user] gimp_file_load_layer(s) not found

2009-01-17 Thread Kate T. Yoak

Owen wrote:

The two functions, gimp_file_load_layer and layers, which I located in
my local installation's Xtns browser are not found by perl-gimp on the
server.  It says, " function/macro "gimp_file_load_layers" not found
in
Gimp"

Should I give up or is there a reason it might be failing? (These are
the only missing functions so far!)

GIMP version 2.2.13
Gimp.pm 2.0

Here is how i use it:

use Gimp qw(:auto );\\sub layer{
   my $img = gimp_file_load(RUN_NONINTERACTIVE, $product, $product);
   my $lay = gimp_file_load_layers(RUN_NONINTERACTIVE, $img, $artist);
   gimp_layer_resize_to_image_size($lay);
};


Gimp::on_net(\&layer);

exit main();




In by browser it says gimp-file-load-layers , gimp-file-load , and
gimp-layer-resize-to-image-size

  
Not sure what you mean - that I should be using dashes? I understand, 
you always replace those with underscores as dash is not a valid 
character for function names.



Do you really have those two \\ in there


LOL... Of course not! Happened as a result of copy/paste/something for 
the email itself!.  :-)
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Re: [Gimp-user] gimp_file_load_layer(s) not found

2009-01-17 Thread Owen
> The two functions, gimp_file_load_layer and layers, which I located in
> my local installation's Xtns browser are not found by perl-gimp on the
> server.  It says, " function/macro "gimp_file_load_layers" not found
> in
> Gimp"
>
> Should I give up or is there a reason it might be failing? (These are
> the only missing functions so far!)
>
> GIMP version 2.2.13
> Gimp.pm 2.0
>
> Here is how i use it:
>
> use Gimp qw(:auto );\\sub layer{
>my $img = gimp_file_load(RUN_NONINTERACTIVE, $product, $product);
>my $lay = gimp_file_load_layers(RUN_NONINTERACTIVE, $img, $artist);
>gimp_layer_resize_to_image_size($lay);
> };
>
>
> Gimp::on_net(\&layer);
>
> exit main();


In by browser it says gimp-file-load-layers , gimp-file-load , and
gimp-layer-resize-to-image-size


Do you really have those two \\ in there?



Owen


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[Gimp-user] gimp_file_load_layer(s) not found

2009-01-17 Thread Kate Yoak
The two functions, gimp_file_load_layer and layers, which I located in 
my local installation's Xtns browser are not found by perl-gimp on the 
server.  It says, " function/macro "gimp_file_load_layers" not found in 
Gimp"

Should I give up or is there a reason it might be failing? (These are 
the only missing functions so far!)

GIMP version 2.2.13
Gimp.pm 2.0

Here is how i use it:

use Gimp qw(:auto );\\sub layer{
   my $img = gimp_file_load(RUN_NONINTERACTIVE, $product, $product);
   my $lay = gimp_file_load_layers(RUN_NONINTERACTIVE, $img, $artist);
   gimp_layer_resize_to_image_size($lay);
};


Gimp::on_net(\&layer);

exit main();


Thanks again everyone!
Kate

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