Re: [Gimp-user] Getting Screenshots directly into GIMP on different operationg systems
Hi, On 7/18/07, Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > should have a Printscreen key (less keys are better, not more). Anyway > > such a function should be kept out of an OS (and it's terrible that > > both Mac and Windows implement it as part of the OS.) -- the user > > should be able to use the keys on his keyboard as he decides. > > Taking screenshots is a basic functionality that every desktop should > provide. Of course it is a good idea to make the keyboard shortcut > configurable. But there is definitely nothing terrible about providing > this functionality. I would even go as far as considering any desktop > incomplete and broken that does not provide it. Well, that's fine. I don't like Gnome, so I don't use it; I use Linux, X11, and DWM, and press Super-A and type 'scrot' to take a screenshot (at the rare times that I've found this useful.); maybe I'll bind 'scrot' to Super-S later. It's not clear whether my desktop is broken or not in your terms, since I have a straightforward way (autocompleting command menu) of accessing it, but no direct keybinding. My intended thread of thought was, if it is built into the OS, you can't make it go away. Building the functionality into the desktop environment is expected (and equally, I expect it to go away and leave my keyboard alone when I tell it to - I couldn't easily get Gnome to do this, which is one of the reasons I stopped using it, the other being it wanted me to manage my windows instead of managing them for me.) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Getting Screenshots directly into GIMP on different operationg systems
Hi, On Wed, 2007-07-18 at 17:09 +0930, David Gowers wrote: > Well, you seem to have misunderstood me, I was suggesting that Doug's > idea that Printscreen would work everywhere was naive, not that Macs > should have a Printscreen key (less keys are better, not more). Anyway > such a function should be kept out of an OS (and it's terrible that > both Mac and Windows implement it as part of the OS.) -- the user > should be able to use the keys on his keyboard as he decides. Taking screenshots is a basic functionality that every desktop should provide. Of course it is a good idea to make the keyboard shortcut configurable. But there is definitely nothing terrible about providing this functionality. I would even go as far as considering any desktop incomplete and broken that does not provide it. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Getting Screenshots directly into GIMP on different operationg systems
Hi everybody, first of all I've got to make clean that i was asking the question about getting screenshoots directly into GIMP under Mac OS not only for practical reasons – i'll describe that coll functionality in my masterthesis and then it doesn't work under Mac OS (and it doesn't :-( ) I've got to mention that. Of course it's possible to make screenshots under Mac OS that are stored in files and to open that files for cropping and other work in GIMP – but that's what i can do with any other program and the cool functionality in GIMP is lost :-( The following doesn't work, i think the X11-server and Mac OS doesn't use the same clipboard (thanks for the shortcut-summary anyway. But then you're looking to these shortcuts you'll understand why i would like to prefer the GIMP-way of getting screenshoots: you've got to remember that shortcuts (or note it on a piece of paper) and you've got to have fingers like spaghetti to press all these buttons at one time): Victor Domingos schrieb: > Hi, Akki! > > In MacOS X, you may do the following: > > 1. Use the system-wide keyboard shortcuts for taking screenshots into > the Clipboard: > > Control + Shift + Command + 3> a shot from the entire screen > Control + Shift + Command + 4> a shot from a selection of the > screen > Control + Shift + Command + 4 and then press SPACEBAR > a shot > from only one window > > 2. In GIMP, use File > Acquire > From Clipboard > The following thing works, but you've got to save files, open files, rename files and at least delete all that files that are created on the desktop automatically – clumsy. > By the way, if you use these commands without pressing the CONTROL > key, the images are stored in a file, not the clipboard. > > However, the most important thing for me is clear: i know that I've got to give a footnote in my masterthesis about that. Thank you very much Regards Akki Nitsch The freedom of meaning one thing and saying something different is not permitted. E.W. Dijkstra Andreas "Akki" Nitsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: 0171/ 54 12 63 1 begin:vcard fn:Andreas Nitsch n:Nitsch;Andreas adr;dom:;;Goethestrasse 11;Romrod;Hessen;36329 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;cell:0171/54 12 63 1 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.akki-n.de version:2.1 end:vcard ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Getting Screenshots directly into GIMP on different operationg systems
On 7/18/07, Victor Domingos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Em 2007/07/17, às 16:52, David Gowers escreveu: >Also-- does a Mac keyboard even HAVE a PrintScreen key? Google saith: no, it doesn't :) > > > > > As I said in a previous post, in MacOS X, we don't have a PrintScreen key, we > have a complete aplication, named Capture, for taking screenshots, and a full > set of system-wide keyboard shortcuts that allow us to take screenshots of > the full screen, or from a selections, or from one window, and we even can > specify if the image goes into a new file or will remain in the Clipboard. As > far as I know, it's the more flexible/powerfull aproach to screenshots in > current operating systems... Well, you seem to have misunderstood me, I was suggesting that Doug's idea that Printscreen would work everywhere was naive, not that Macs should have a Printscreen key (less keys are better, not more). Anyway such a function should be kept out of an OS (and it's terrible that both Mac and Windows implement it as part of the OS.) -- the user should be able to use the keys on his keyboard as he decides. > we even can specify if the image goes into a new file or will remain in the > Clipboard. Well that should be gotten rid of, it's a choice of quite dubious value that can be avoided by always doing both. Maybe it's a backwards compatibility thing? ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Getting Screenshots directly into GIMP on different operationg systems
On 7/17/07, Doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Akki Nitsch wrote: > Hi everybody on the list, > > I'm testing the GIMP on various operating systems for my masterthesis > (in that i want to show the capabilities of open-source-software for > technical writing) and i hope that somebody could answer me the > following question (more to follow ;-) : > > As a programmer and technical writer for software i love the ability > of getting screenshots directly from and into the GIMP via the > "Acquire" submenu -> "Screen shot". > > Hi, Irrespective of operating system, doesn't just using the 'PrintScreen' key, then opening the screenshot in Gimp do the trick? Followed by 'Crop' to taste. Actually, no. On Linux/X11/DWM, for example, it does.. precisely nothing. Gnome includes that keybinding you mention, so it will work if you are running Gnome, but not KDE. Also-- does a Mac keyboard even HAVE a PrintScreen key? Google saith: no, it doesn't :) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Getting Screenshots directly into GIMP on different operationg systems
Akki Nitsch wrote: > Hi everybody on the list, > > I'm testing the GIMP on various operating systems for my masterthesis > (in that i want to show the capabilities of open-source-software for > technical writing) and i hope that somebody could answer me the > following question (more to follow ;-) : > > As a programmer and technical writer for software i love the ability > of getting screenshots directly from and into the GIMP via the > "Acquire" submenu -> "Screen shot". > > Hi, Irrespective of operating system, doesn't just using the 'PrintScreen' key, then opening the screenshot in Gimp do the trick? Followed by 'Crop' to taste. Doug ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Getting Screenshots directly into GIMP on different operationg systems
Hi, Akki! In MacOS X, you may do the following: 1. Use the system-wide keyboard shortcuts for taking screenshots into the Clipboard: Control + Shift + Command + 3> a shot from the entire screen Control + Shift + Command + 4> a shot from a selection of the screen Control + Shift + Command + 4 and then press SPACEBAR > a shot from only one window By the way, if you use these commands without pressing the CONTROL key, the images are stored in a file, not the clipboard. 2. In GIMP, use File > Acquire > From Clipboard Have fun! Victor Domingos http://lojamac.com/blog - Em 2007/07/16, às 23:42, Akki Nitsch escreveu: > Hi everybody on the list, > > I'm testing the GIMP on various operating systems for my masterthesis > (in that i want to show the capabilities of open-source-software for > technical writing) and i hope that somebody could answer me the > following question (more to follow ;-) : > > As a programmer and technical writer for software i love the ability > of getting screenshots directly from and into the GIMP via the > "Acquire" submenu -> "Screen shot". > > I've already tested that function successfully under (Ubuntu-)Linux > and Windows (XP). > > But under Mac OS there are some problems. I've installed the GIMP on > two different ways under Mac OS. The first way is via Mac Ports and > the Acquire-Screenshot-function can only get screen-shots of programs > running under the X11-server I'm running under Mac OS (like OOo.org). > > The other way I've installed the GIMP via GIMP.app > (http://gimp-app.sourceforge.net/), the self contained application > bundle of GIMP, that uses X11, too. On that installation the point > "Screen shot" in the "Acquire"-submenu doesn't even exist. > > Here's my question: is there any plugin that i can install to have > this cool function under Mac OS? Is anybody working on a plugin (and > is it even possible to get a Mac-Screenshot into an X11-application?). > It's a great functionality and it would be very useful for Mac-users. > > Regards > > Akki Nitsch > > > The freedom of meaning one thing and saying > something different is not permitted. > > E.W. Dijkstra > > Andreas "Akki" Nitsch > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mobile: 0171/ 54 12 63 > 1___ > Gimp-user mailing list > Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU > https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
