Re: Smoothing gradient Q...

2001-02-04 Thread lee johnson

Jonathan Gift wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm doing a left to right gradient, dark blue to black so that a narrow
> 2 inch bank of blue apperas before fading into black. the problme is
> that the band has uneven bars of various hue there. I tried Blur to
> smooth it out, and adding another deeper colored layer, etc. No go. How
> can I smooth this out?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Jonathan
>
> "Hey, I think I finally got the hang of i-"

i ,,i guess in a stupid midnight plunder ;)LOL..removed my "spool"
directory..due to the message when i removed my the printer config in
printtool remove "/var/spool/lpd/lp"..dah..

so now i can't even print..not with gimp nor any other utility and
the "print ascii" won't print to my printer via printtool

i recreated anacron in /var/spool ( after recreating spool dir ) but still
nadda.

what do i do to get printing back?

:)LOL

thanks
lee





Re: Smoothing gradient Q...

2001-01-15 Thread Aaron Barclay

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syngin wrote:
> 
> It was Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:57:16 +0100, when you spake,
> 
> JG>
> JG> I notice the banding doesn't take place if I use the gradient red pipe
> JG> plugin. It renders it and all gradients flawless. Just the standard...
> JG>
> JG> Any other thing you can think of s appreciated. It sort of ruins what
> JG> I'm doing and so causes massive depression, loss of appetite, etc.
> JG>
> JG> Thanks for the feedback.
> JG>
> JG> Jonathan
> 
> are you starting the gradient about an inch in from the edge of the page by chance? 
>if so, try starting the gradient on the edge of the layer (or outside the layer).
> this might be from the all-to-obvious department, but who knows?
> 
> --
> Nusbaum's Rule:
> The more pretentious the corporate name, the smaller the
> organization.  (For instance, the Murphy Center for the
> Codification of Human and Organizational Law, contrasted
> to IBM, GM, and AT&T.)



Re: Smoothing gradient Q...

2001-01-13 Thread Jonathan Gift

Dominic Knight wrote:

I was looking for the native format and this was nicely explained.
Thanks.

Jonathan



Re: Smoothing gradient Q...

2001-01-13 Thread Dominic Knight

On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-01-12 at 1746.52 +0100):
> > Rebecca J. Walter wrote:
> Uumm, eeeh... GIF, JPG and many other formats are like working in 16
> bit screen. Use PNG if you want compression but keep colors nicely.
> This thing is becoming boring (sorry but day after day the lossy
> compression thing appears... is there not a FAQ somewhere or what?).
> 
> > What is the best file type to use?

GIF
only supports 256 colours. lossless compression (lzw patented). supports basic
animation. One colour may be set to transparent.
Useful for: Text, images/icons with few colours but sharp detail. Animations.
Not good for highly detailed work with many colours.

JPEG(JFIF)
24 bit colour, lossy compression, no transparency support, can blur sharp
detail.
Useful for photographs, highly detailed artwork.
Not really suited to Internet use.

PNG
Supprts 256 colour, 16 bit greyscale, 48 bit true-colour. lossless compression
(no patent), alpha channels with varying degrees of transparency, better
interlacing, most cases compression is better than gif
Useful for most things. 256 colour non dithered for web graphics, 48bit for
photographic work, 
Does not support animations (what's happend to MNG ?).

Not a FAQ but for a detailed discussion of the PNG format, one of the better
resources is the W3C, try http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-png-multi.html or their
frontdoor at http://www.w3.org/

Regards,
Dominic.



> > And is there a file type that can
> > keep work in progress? ie Five layers open for editing later?
> 
> Gimp native format is .xcf.bz2, .xcf.gz or .xcf (aka .xcf compressed
> or not). IMHO .xcf.bz2 if your machine is fast, .xcf.gz if not, .xcf
> if you want to waste HD.
> 
> GSR



Re: Smoothing gradient Q...

2001-01-13 Thread Jonathan Gift

syngin wrote:
> 
> are you starting the gradient about an inch in from the edge of the page by chance? 
>if so, try starting the gradient on the edge of the layer (or outside the layer).
> this might be from the all-to-obvious department, but who knows?

Nope, on the edge and in about 2 inches on my 17 inch monitor. But I
think the problem involves my saving it to jpg. That's when I see the
problem. In the original it's not there. So, if that is it, is there any
way around it? I tried putting a blur on it, etc, nothing.

Thanks for the feedback.

Jonathan



Re: Smoothing gradient Q...

2001-01-13 Thread syngin

It was Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:57:16 +0100, when you spake,

JG> 
JG> I notice the banding doesn't take place if I use the gradient red pipe
JG> plugin. It renders it and all gradients flawless. Just the standard...
JG> 
JG> Any other thing you can think of s appreciated. It sort of ruins what
JG> I'm doing and so causes massive depression, loss of appetite, etc.
JG> 
JG> Thanks for the feedback.
JG> 
JG> Jonathan

are you starting the gradient about an inch in from the edge of the page by chance? if 
so, try starting the gradient on the edge of the layer (or outside the layer).
this might be from the all-to-obvious department, but who knows?

-- 
Nusbaum's Rule:
The more pretentious the corporate name, the smaller the
organization.  (For instance, the Murphy Center for the
Codification of Human and Organizational Law, contrasted
to IBM, GM, and AT&T.)





Re: Smoothing gradient Q- Solved!

2001-01-12 Thread Jonathan Gift

Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero wrote:
> 
> Uumm, eeeh... GIF, JPG and many other formats are like working in 16

I got an answer on this, thanks.
> 
> > What is the best file type to use?
> 
> For what task? Desktop bg? Web? Printing? Each job has a tool (or more
> than one, but please do not hammer nails with the polisher machine).

I had not added, as I should have, to work and store the original in so
as to preserve layers, etc. Obviously once finished it has many uses and
flavors.

Thanks,

Jonathan



Re: Smoothing gradient Q...

2001-01-12 Thread Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-01-12 at 1746.52 +0100):
> Rebecca J. Walter wrote:
> > save the image and email it to me and i will takea peek later and tell
> > you how it looks.
> Ok. thanks. I had a thought though. I remmeber the original didn't have
> that. Could it be the format I'm saving in, namely jpg? After all, the
> problem appears after I've saved it and put it up for background?

Uumm, eeeh... GIF, JPG and many other formats are like working in 16
bit screen. Use PNG if you want compression but keep colors nicely.
This thing is becoming boring (sorry but day after day the lossy
compression thing appears... is there not a FAQ somewhere or what?).

> What is the best file type to use?

For what task? Desktop bg? Web? Printing? Each job has a tool (or more
than one, but please do not hammer nails with the polisher machine).

> And is there a file type that can
> keep work in progress? ie Five layers open for editing later?

Gimp native format is .xcf.bz2, .xcf.gz or .xcf (aka .xcf compressed
or not). IMHO .xcf.bz2 if your machine is fast, .xcf.gz if not, .xcf
if you want to waste HD.

GSR
 



Re: Smoothing gradient Q...

2001-01-12 Thread Jonathan Gift

Rebecca J. Walter wrote:
> save the image and email it to me and i will takea peek later and tell
> you how it looks.

Ok. thanks. I had a thought though. I remmeber the original didn't have
that. Could it be the format I'm saving in, namely jpg? After all, the
problem appears after I've saved it and put it up for background?

What is the best file type to use? And is there a file type that can
keep work in progress? ie Five layers open for editing later?

I'll post this and send another straight to you with the pic.

Thanks again.

Jonathan

"Hey, I think I finally got the hang of i-"




Re: Smoothing gradient Q...

2001-01-12 Thread Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2001-01-12 at 1331.22 +0100):
> I'm doing a left to right gradient, dark blue to black so that a narrow
> 2 inch bank of blue apperas before fading into black. the problme is
> that the band has uneven bars of various hue there. I tried Blur to
> smooth it out, and adding another deeper colored layer, etc. No go. How
> can I smooth this out?

First, make sure you are not running in 16 bit (you should use 24 bit,
or 32=24+8). Second, check that your monitor is adjusted and not
damaged, it could be a hardware problem. Third, even after some people
say that 24 bit is enough, sometimes is not enough (some people are
more sensible, and some situations push that to the limits).

GSR
 



Re: Smoothing gradient Q...

2001-01-12 Thread Jonathan Gift

Jon Winters wrote:
> 
> Sounds like your display is not set to 24 or 36 bit color.  You'll
> always see banding, even tho it may not really be in the image, if
> you're running less than 24bit color.
> 

Banding, eh? I'm on 24 bit. Always have been and just ran a check, still
am... Even hough I have an 8MB card, I can't see to get 32bit whith
the card's VGA server.

I notice the banding doesn't take place if I use the gradient red pipe
plugin. It renders it and all gradients flawless. Just the standard...

Any other thing you can think of s appreciated. It sort of ruins what
I'm doing and so causes massive depression, loss of appetite, etc.

Thanks for the feedback.

Jonathan


"Hey, I think I finally got the hang of i-"