you and rest my case. There is the Regional Plan
[RiP Goa] 2021 that needs urgent attention. You can have your say. My last two
words on this subject are place below, above my name :
Mog asundi.
Miguel
Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 20:14:16 -0400
From: "Bosco - Goanet Volunteer" <[E
Miguel Braganza wrote:
Dears,
The original thread of this discussion about MODERATION on Goanet is
"[Goanet] Open letter to Goanet and other Goan related websites"
The golden rules of Goanet state that no one should change the subject
line.
Herman is not a REGULAR poster and hence
2008/10/2 Miguel Braganza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(a): Herman has changed the subject line ...and made wild allegations
which he will find difficult to substantiate if I sit and dig out the
archives of Goanet.
(b) THREE out of FOUR "Moderators" . have resorted to extremism already
==
Dears (as
Dears,
The original thread of this discussion about MODERATION on Goanet is
"[Goanet] Open letter to Goanet and other Goan related websites"
The golden rules of Goanet state that no one should change the subject line. An
email from me to Domnic Fernandes alluding to this brough
Hi Gilbert, I am not a pundit of English!
But btw, does your ideology not include the possibility of referring to Google?
If you threaten us with your prowess over language, and the various
possibilities this throws up, the rest of us Goanetters might just
retreat to being cancer specialists :-)
Hi Gilbert
Apologies for being well behind in responding to hundreds of posts over several
weeks but herewith a quick reply to make a few observations re your post. I
hope you have not injured yourself falling off your chair, yet again! I also
hope that you do not mind the numbering below for re
Hi Victor and Fred,
Thanks for your help in deciphering the word "obnubliating". Likely Augusto's
descriptors said more about Fred, than Fred knew about himself.:=))
Till your clarification arrived, I was doing my own 'research' on
"obnubliating". My spell-check displayed "obnubliating" as a
My dear friend Miguel,
I am honored to be the subject of your emails in Goan cyberspace in recent
days. I am even more honored and delighted that you have selected me this
week - to
stand on my shoulders so that you can rise higher and higher in Goan
cyberspace and in the eyes of Goans around
CORNEL DACOSTA wrote:
Six of my posts to Goanet and one to a private group including
Frederick and Bosco, since Jan/Feb 2008, received nil responses
with regard to my concern about the failure of moderation and
excessive rejection of posts without explanation.
RESPONSE: Have you found the Goan
In the Chinese sapience, one risks having three fingers admonishing oneself as
one points a damning finger at the other. In the crab or "carp" omniscience,
options are limited and rather intimidating. One can’t go after a fellow crab
with one claw fully extended and the other twisted 180 degre
Those serious about their complaints would make a stronger case if
they enlightened us on the several topics related to these rejected posts. The
readers can decide if these subject matters are Goa-related or Goan-centric.
Right now, it appears that there is a lot of personal attacks even thoug
Hello!
Is not that what Miguel meant by ""catholic-sounding name"?
i.e. that while his name was Catholic sounding, he was NOT a Catholic
or "CatLic" as Parrikar implied while answering the question put
to him (at least) on the NDTV show?
If you were a serious (let's say ...quarter serious jo
Fred can call my views and suggestions as "carping", though I have said that
Goanet is stable. When I said "uniformity" I mean that a "controversial" post
could be bounced aroud among the moderators and, depending on the consensus,
could be allowed or rejected. Why is my suggestion that Herman s
Dear Miguel,
If by ignorance Manohar Parrikar said Flaviano was a "Catholic" it is not
Flaviano's fault. My point is why should the name matter. Hence, why should you
"harp" or "carp" on it?
Eugene
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:05:59 +0530
From: " Frederick [FN] Noronha * "
>
Eugene is carping about a range of issues in his recent post. This is
what happens with a handful of posters, who believe that we can
accomodate all their conflicting visions on how Goanet can and should
b
Dear Miguel,
Two quick points:
1: Eugene Correia is to be excused for wanting us believe that he is a
journalist. For (as Lisette Saldanha has appropriately proved) a
journalist Eugene is NOT. No wonder he did not ascertain all the facts
of the case wrt Parrikar, "Catlic' Flaviano and the horribl
on is the sincerest form of flattery. Thanks. ;-)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:05:59 +0530
From: " Frederick [FN] Noronha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Open letter to Goanet and other Goan related
(CORNEL DACOSTA)
Message-ID:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Firstl
I have been quite an inactive member of the GX forum for some time
now. It is only recently that I ventured out to read some of the posts
on the "Goanet Moderation" issue out there. While I can understand
Fred being upset over all this, considering that he has been in the
line of fire for some time
T)
From: Eugene Correia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Open letter to Goanet and other Goan related
(CORNEL DACOSTA)
To: goanet@lists.goanet.org
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Some of my posts on GoaJourno, which Fred moderates, has never appeared and I
have asked him
Eugene is carping about a range of issues in his recent post. This is
what happens with a handful of posters, who believe that we can
accomodate all their conflicting visions on how Goanet can and should
best be run.
Eugene raises some good issues, mixes these with nonsense, and that
makes it extr
Msny of us have had our posts rejected but that does not mean that the
moderators are doing a bad job. Maybe they have erred now and then but I do not
see an uniform pattern in their job. Perhaps, the non-uniformity is one of the
problem. So, for the problem to be addressed in the best possible
the Goans' that does not have a cat in hell chance of
success in this globalised society of ours.
Regards
Cornel
--- On Mon, 29/9/08, Hartman de Souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: Hartman de Souza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Goanet] Open letter to Goane
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 15:35:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: Carvalho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
Lots of mails get into my spam folder, Mario, including yours.
>
Mario responds:
>
Good heavens! Moi??? You better call your internet provider! RIGHT NOW!
>
I hope you are saving and looking through your spam to cat
Hi Sandeep
I don't believe that Cecil and Frederick are having a good laugh at our and
particularly Selma's expense. I have met both of them (FN and CP)and they
definitely are intelligent and serious enough to understand what is going on
currently at Goanet. I only hope they will not sink it b
creatures as even brand-new wives discover.
;-) Lucky is the spinster who does not have to deal with one!
Mog asundi.
Miguel
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 00:11:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: Carvalho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Open letter to Goanet and other Goan related
Mes
2008/9/29 Sandeep Heble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I think Selma probably misunderstood the context of Cecil's post, and
> its true intent. While Fred is an eminent Journalist with a huge
> presence on the Internet, Cecil's customary style is to have a go at
> him every now and then. Cecil picks up a r
I agree too...
I actually know 6 people who have withdrawn their membership from Goanet,
one is RKN a through gentlemen.
A few years back i had opted for the Digest format. Now i occasionally post
to goanet...as its no longer the same as 5 years back.
hAVE a nICE dAY
Seb
--- On Sun, 28/9/0
--- On Sun, 9/28/08, Sandeep Heble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think Selma probably misunderstood the context of
> Cecil's post, and
> its true intent.
> While Selma is all upset and jittery, Cecil and Fred must
> be having a
> good hearty laugh over this!
>
> Cheers,
> Sandeep
--
Selma concludes with:
"In keeping with this custom, a group of men who seem wordily-wise will
gather and create a conspiracy so great and chiseled, even Ian Fleming would
have been impressed. Before we know it, not only is the efficiency of the
person called into question, based on his political l
I think Selma probably misunderstood the context of Cecil's post, and
its true intent. While Fred is an eminent Journalist with a huge
presence on the Internet, Cecil's customary style is to have a go at
him every now and then. Cecil picks up a raging issue, adds his own
two bits of humor to it and
Dear Mario,
For reasons, I will elaborate on a little later, I wish not to get into this
debate. Upfront, I want to clear something which I have neither said nor
insinuated but like so many things get convoluted on Goanet.
Nowhere have I said or implied that Cecil spams me with private mails. I
Selma Carvalho wrote:
>
> I don't know about the rest of Goanetters but I would never take the word of
>a Cecil Pinto against that of fine man
> like Frederick Noronha
>
Dr. Jose Colaco responded:
>
> My dear Selma,
> Did you read the totality of what Cecil wrote? IF NOT on what basis are
to survive and be relevant.
Mog asundi
Miguel
--- On Sun, 28/9/08, Dominic Fernandes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Subject: Re: Goanet] Open letter to Goanet and other Goan related
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: "Goanet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sunday,
resigned with a bang.Bosco can choose his own style
or at least take a sabbatical for rest and recreation like the G.I. Joes! ;-)
He can come back rejuvenated with a bang, if necessary!
Mog asundi
Miguel
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 10:15:38 + (GMT)
From: CORNEL DACOSTA <[EMAIL PR
My take on the word, obnubliating means clouding over, obfuscating.
Regards,
Victor
--- On Sun, 9/28/08, Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रे <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रे <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Open letter to Goanet and other Goan rela
lekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Goanet] Open letter to Goanet and other Goan related websites
>
> I posted the questions to Goanet. But somebody rejected
> them. The person who rejected them did not sign his name.
&
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=obnubliating
2008/9/28 Gilbert Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Now that I have praised Augusto Pinto about this linguistic prowess, can I
> ask something that
> this supurlo Goenkar could not find his Webster's dictionary?
> What is "obnubliating" (
I needed some relaxation, so like many Goanetters, I opened Goanet to see the
topic d' jour; which this time was "The Open Letter ...". I was chuckling
at the dialog. And, ... I fell off the chair reading the post of Augusto Pinto
(I believe Professor of English in Goa) replying to Cornel DaCos
--- On Sat, 9/27/08, J. Colaco < jc> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 4: If however, Santosh Helekar has requested information
> (as a member from GoaNet) directly from GoaNet admin, this cannot (I
> submit) be considered to be an action of any Kangaroo Court. If FN
> disagrees with this submission
Hi Eddie
Your suggestions for Goanet to adjust to the diversity of interests is quite
interesting and original.
However, with regard to your reply below, I definitely have no change in mind
for Goanet. I am happy with it except for one simple point. Goanet protocols
allow for a reason to be p
Dear Dr Cornel
You are spot on when you say that Frederick Noronha is corrupt. I've
been wanting to something on those lines for a long time but was
afraid I'd be pilloried because I was attacking this bearded figure.
As any American will tell you, anyone who sports such beards is not
only likely
Possibly in response to the rather voluminous and
largely-based-on-misconceptions-and-biases Cornel da Costa tirade
directed against Frederick Noronha (FN)
(a) FN responded on Sept 26, 2008 : As for myself, I don't see Dr
Cornel as being on track for the reasons outlined here:
http://groups.yahoo
Eddie, as I understood Dr Cornel's angry allegations, it's not about
quantum of posts... but rather systemic bias. These are two different
issues, and, as such, has nothing to do with the solution you're
proposing below. What you say might make technical sense, but that is
entirely another issue.
Folks,
The discussion about GoaNet moderation has come as no surprise but the
acrimony it has generated causes me concern. There are valid arguments on
all sides, each person giving vent to their despair of what they see as
requisites to improving the GoaNet service. There are no villains on the
s
Dear Selma,
Ultra violet or ultra vires, I personally believe that one should read
a post before commenting on it.
For one, party D might mis-represent (willfully or negligently) what
party P has said about party N
It also helps - to know the status of the script i.e. Was it a serious
piece, a p
ecting the similarity between mails.
selma
--- On Fri, 9/26/08, J. Colaco < jc> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: J. Colaco < jc> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Goanet] Open letter to Goanet and other Goan related websites
> To: "Goa's premiere mailing l
Cecil's answer is below. It was titled "Reply on behalf of GoaNet".
Parts of it are uncannily close to the truth :-) Your guess which (and
I'm not referring to the complimentary parts alone). FN
2008/9/26 J. Colaco < jc> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> My dear Selma,
> Did you read the totality of what Cec
Cornel DaCosta seems to be distressed that his deserving and enlightening posts
have not seen the light of day on Goanet.
To be honest I too have suspected Fred Noronha of being an arbitrary and high
handed editor of goanet. But I have neither the time nor the inclination to
offer myself for t
My dear Selma,
Did you read the totality of what Cecil wrote?
IF NOT on what basis are you making the comment quoted infra?
jc
2008/9/26 Carvalho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I don't know about the
rest of Goanetters but I would never take the word of a Cecil Pinto
against that of fine man like Frede
I don't know about the rest of Goanetters but I would never take the word of a
Cecil Pinto against that of fine man like Frederick Noronha.
selma
--- On Fri, 9/26/08, CORNEL DACOSTA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> We have had Cecil Pinto's confirmation on GX
> (GoenchimXapotam) that, it is Fr
OPEN LETTER TO GOANET AND OTHER GOAN RELATED WEBSITES
We have had Cecil Pinto's confirmation on GX (GoenchimXapotam) that, it is
Frederick Noronha who rejects large numbers of posts sent to Goanet without the
slightest whiff of an explanation. This disclosure has not been rebutted by
Frederick
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