[Goanet] Quick tips for aspiring entrepreneurs (a story from Margao)
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Quick tips for aspiring entrepreneurs Merril Diniz August 21, 2006 On a recent trip to Goa, I decided to stop spending and start investing for a change. My father quickly made an appointment with his financial consultant to help me chalk out a good tax saving strategy before I changed my mind. When I strolled into the consultant's office, I was surprised to meet two young guns instead of a middle-aged veteran. Suraj Betkikar, 27, and Arjun Rebelo, 25, manage Milestone Financial Consultants in Margao, a small town in south Goa. Before setting up shop in January 2005, Suraj worked with ING Vysya Bank in Goa, while Arjun was with ING Vysya Mutual Fund in Mumbai. Both completed their MBAs in marketing and finance from the Goa Institute of Management in 2003. The former classmates proved to be an enthusiastic duo, suggesting several combinations before we finally zeroed in on what to do with my money. As neither Suraj nor Arjun come from business backgrounds, I wondered what prompted the two to swap a regular paycheck and job security for the hassle of launching their own enterprise. Choosing the right business My first question to them was, why? Their reply: We make the rules, we decide when to break them. I asked them to elaborate. During our MBAs and working days, we regularly thrashed out business ideas, they said. We were both connected to the investment sector and realised the time was right to set up a consultancy. With the economy growing, the broking and investment services industry was just beginning to boom. We identified Goa, which didn't have too many organised and professional investment service organisations. Most people were uneducated about financial products; the concept of financial planning was alien to them. Betkikar and Rebelo wanted to offer a services approach instead of a product-based one; i.e. they planned to offer financial planning and advisory services -- to become a one-stop shop for all investment needs of the average middle-class person. They also have a private limited company called Money Factor Financial Services, a franchisee for India Infoline Securities, through which they provide broking services. Choosing the right partner The duo believe that the main reason for getting into a partnership, as opposed to setting out on your own, is to make doing business easier. It is lucrative to join hands with the right person, provided you and your partner share a common goal. They say you must also be equally confident of your ability to deliver. Ideally, your expertise must lie in different areas so you balance out your partner's weak points. For instance, Arjun handles 70 per cent of the marketing and PR because he is good with his communication skills. Suraj manages 70 per cent of operations -- back office management, the company's risk management, accounts, paperwork, etc. However, Suraj also has his own client base. Both chip in when the other is absent. They add that you should get along as friends, and that communication on every level with your partner is a must. Arjun and Suraj communicate on a daily basis, so both are completely in the loop about any developments. Does it get competitive between the two? I ask, out of curiosity. Not at all, says Arjun with conviction, adding on a lighter note: Someone told me that, as long as the moolah keeps rolling, there's nothing to fear. Which brings us to that all-important word: M-O-N-E-Y. Money matters Every aspiring entrepreneur wants to know: What was the initial investment? How did you get funding? Arjun says the initial investment was Rs 25 lakh (including the cost of office space). They coughed up the amount by digging into personal savings and borrowing from their respective families and relatives. This way, we didn't have to provide collateral for a bank loan and we had the flexibility, in terms of time, when it came to paying back the money. This reduces costs and pressure considerably. We could have gone to a bank but, since our capital requirements were not too much, we decided to keep that option for expansion at a later date. Most of this money went into infrastructure, i.e. office space and equipment. A lot went into regulatory requirements (deposit with Indiainfoline, licenses, etc) and working capital (salaries, bills, office maintainence, etc.). Initially, you may have to wear the hat of a peon, cleaner, office boy and secretary to keep costs low. Secondly, you
[Goanet] Goa news for September 4, 2006
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Goa News from Yahoo! News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Sarau Tiwari scores ton in Moin-ud-Dowla cup (ThatsCricket.com) Jharkhand batsman Sarau Tiwari scored a century against Assam while Goa was skittled out for a paltry 54 by Tripura in the All India Moin-ud-Dowla Gold Cup cricket tournament which began here. http://thatscricket.oneindia.in/news/2006/09/03/03090109moin-ud-dwalla.html *** Goa to host vegetarian congress (New Kerala) New Delhi, Sep 1: India will host the 37th edition of the International Vegetarian Congress in Goa from Sep 10. The six-day congress, organised by International Vegetarian Union, will discuss the challenges vegetarians face across the globe. http://www.newkerala.com/news4.php?action=fullnewsid=16153 *** Goa to form overseas recruitment agency (New Kerala) Panaji, Aug 31: Goa government has decided to form an overseas recruitment agency to streamline the process of employment abroad. http://www.newkerala.com/news4.php?action=fullnewsid=15284 *** Goa celebrates Ganesh Chaturthi with traditional fervour (New Kerala) Cumbarjua (Goa), Sept 3: Hundreds of villagers in Goa lined the bank of a rivulet to watch immersion of idols of Lord Ganesh as part of the Ganesh Chaturthi festival. http://www.newkerala.com/news4.php?action=fullnewsid=16827 *** Congress ready to face polls in Goa: Kidwai (The Times of India) The Congress said it was ready to face the forthcoming elections in Goa and would form the state's next government. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1948156.cms *** Goa gets laurels (Navhind Times) Panaji, Sept 1: The Goa government was today presented with the performance trophies for excelling in primary education, primary health and budget and prosperity among the smaller states category of the country. http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=090243 *** Around 2 lakh foreign tourists expected to visit Goa (Navhind Times) Panaji, Aug 30: Around 850 charter flights are expected to land in Goa in the ensuing tourist season bringing in nearly 2 lakh foreign tourists. Over 700 charter flights landed in the state last year bringing in around 1.5 lakh tourists. http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=083154 *** Goa celebrates Ganesh Chaturthi with traditional fervour (Yahoo! India News) Cumbarjua (Goa), Sept 3 (ANI): Hundreds of villagers in Goa lined the bank of a rivulet to watch immersion of idols of Lord Ganesh as part of the Ganesh Chaturthi festival. http://in.news.yahoo.com/060903/139/6785z.html *** Getting knotty in Goa(Yahoo! India News) Puneites are heading to romantic Goa to exchange their wedding vows WOULDN'T it be just perfect if you took those important steps into holy matrimony with the waves lazily lapping the shore as background music and the palms swaying almost as if blessing the occasion?If that's your dream, you can make it come true. Head straight for the sun kissed beaches of Goa, as Shipra Singh and Pratap http://in.news.yahoo.com/060902/48/677uk.html *** Eating at The Mango Tree in Singapore (About.com) If you're looking for a taste of Goa while you're in Singapore, The Mango Tree is probably the restaurant you need to find. The menu offers a nice tandori chicken... http://goasia.about.com/b/a/257313.htm Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Floriano's Sunday Ramblings-18 [REVOLUTIONS BUILDUP IN PEOPLE'S HEARTS]
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. I have always believed in REVOLUTIONS. I have read about revolutions that took shape because rulers were so insensitive to the plight of the common people that they chose to tell them to 'eat cake if there was no bread'. Voila! The French Revolution. I have read about revolutions that took shape because people wanted more bread than they already had and landed up having no bread at all. Behold! The Marxist-Leninist Revolution of the USSR. Then there have been revolutions a plenty, like in Cuba, Haiti, Timor, etc. where people remained satisfied with what they had, even if it was less than what they should have and refused to sell out for doles. But then revolutions are branded with bloodshed. We have seen the people of Vietnam fighting a bloody war with the U.S of A. after they fought the French in a prolonged war. We have seen Afghanistan refusing to be tamed in spite of super powers' intervention. We have seen the people of Iraq still continuing with the revolution that saw the tyrant Sadam Hussein down and out and now wanting the U.S of A which helped with the revolution, out of Iraq. And we have seen a revolution right at home when Goans actually begged for and borrowed help from outside to see the Portuguese out from Goa. But this was a funny type of a revolution. Actually Goans (mostly Goa's so called Freedom Fighters) who wanted the Portuguese out, were not revolutionary at all, in that, they just wanted the Portuguese out and instead, wanted to be chained into slavery by their own hypocrite masters, to be spat upon, to be derided, to be hauled to the police stations in their jocks in the middle of the night, to be told what to ask for and what not to, because they went as BEGGARS with BEGGING BOWLS to ask for FREEDOM only so that they could get their PENSIONS and their TAMRAPATRAS. And there was the other breed called 'the PATRAKARS' who moulded public opinions in favour of these hypocritical masters who more than helped them to loot and plunder Goa and which is happening even to this day. This breed do not want revolutions. These impinges on their style to make merry by putting dust in the eyes of the people. Coming back to having said that I believe in REVOLUTIONS, it is because the revolutionary blood is running thick in my veins and does not allow me to soundly sleep over a pillow of injustices. I was too young to have been involved in Goa's freedom struggle. But if I was old enough, these so called freedom fighters would have had a plateful on their hands instead of begging bowls, these gutless rats that they are and have been. At this juncture, I remember the argument that I had with my late Dad, just so to make known what it is that ticks me. It was about him, my dad, scolding me for wasting my time playing with books. What he was actually saying was If I had to take up the job after my SSC, I would have earned in thousands a perfect parental pre-occupation, since his good friend had told him that he could fix me in the STATE BANK OF INDIA, the erstwhile BANCO ULTRAMARINO immediately after my SSC. But, adamant as I was, I chose to go to college, instead, since I wanted to be a fighter pilot in the Indian Air Force, having actually witnessed the aerial action on December 18th 1961 and liking it, to see the enemies destroyed from above. And at that time, I had told my dad that he would see me earning in thousands ' in good time'. It is immaterial that my plans of becoming a fighter pilot did not succeed, and instead of getting into the cockpit of the fastest flying machine, I eventually landed on the slowest moving thing called the 'SHIP' to make my life. No regrets though. Sad that my father never lived to see me join the ship as an officer. He had his doubts too, since he had spent his lifetime on board the ships and had seen officers in his time and in his capacity as a domestic. If he had lived for a few extra years, he would not only see one, but three out of his 4 sons as Merchant Navy Officers. As they say, things do take their own time to happen, just like in revolutions.. They take their own time to materialize out of nowhere, just like the ever devastating hurricanes and cyclones. Revolutionary thoughts have their pluses and minuses too. Minuses, because they take you off the topic and wandering in the past. Nevertheless, I have preferred to write about 'revolutions' today, because one Dr. Jose Colaco
Re: [Goanet] Fake quotes
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. SanTosh, It must take some scientific mind to find my comments below revealing of an ideology. Any outside observer would simply attempt to verify the facts, if they were remotely interested in determining whether you're reliable at providing accurate quotes. Good standing is determined by others, so I can't tell you how or where I stand in my reputation as a Christian. I have condensed quotes for brevity, but have never been accused of distorting the intent of the original poster. Lastly, I don't consider myself more moral than you. There you have it, straight from the horse's mouth. Peter --- Peter D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SanTosh, given your truncation, modification and distortion of quotes you will never be a Catholic in good standing. The above accusation is quite revealing about the problem of ideological prejudice and self-righteousness that I have referred to earlier. The obvious questions that I have to ask this poster are: How about you? Are you a Catholic or Christian in good standing? Have you ever truncated, modified and distorted quotes? Do you consider yourself more moral than me? Cheers, Santosh ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] No Advocate Should Encourage This Crime
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Exaltation Noronha my uncle-by-marriage (he the husband of my aunt Visitation of the famous sorpotel and sanna recipes), was all praise for Advocate Jos. Peter D'Souza. You see, JPD's impassioned refutation of the growing move to persuade lawyers in Goa not to represent committers of serious and dastardly crimes against society, struck a strong chord in my uncle's worried bosom. I must admit Uncle Exaltation has a vested interest in preventing Goan criminal lawyers from picking and choosing their cases. The story would take far too long to tell, but told it must. Then and only then, says my uncle, will the people of Goa be rid of parasitic legal thinking in the body politic (or is correct English the body judiciary?). It all started with one village lad getting the bright idea that the wedding of a panch in Assagao must on no account have aunt Visitation catering her sorpotel and sannas. Since frothing and foaming at the mouth was not viewed happily by this lad and since aunt Visitation was too powerful a figure in local circles not to be invited to cater at all, it was decided to ask her to make what they thought would be a harmless cold fish platter. Now anyone worth their salt who has attended a Goan Catholic wedding of any note in the Salcette taluka will know that the cold fish dish represents the highlight of the wedding banquet. People throughout Salcette and specially those native to Margao are known to elbow aside (literally) less hardy people in their mad rush to the table, mainly to help themselves to a generous portion of the cold fish. This despite the fact that every guest at every wedding where the said cold fish dish is served, inevitably has the runs during the entire morning following the wedding. If the reasons for this unhappy circumstance of the fish followed by runs is analysed, it will be discovered that (a) plastic gloves or any gloves at all are never considered when mincing and mixing the fish - apna haath jugganath, as they say - (b) since the fish is minced and then mixed with mayonnaise thus assuring it's taste, the most uncertain quality of fish is used and c) the cooks doing the honors with the fish are strangers to the science of refrigeration as a defence against the heat in Goa. Now, since the wedding was arranged in Assagao, the people there knew not a whit of the stories of the cold fish and the runs that are so well known by every Salcette family. And since aunt Visitation criminally underpaid the cooks she brought from Salcette to do the work, plus trustingly gave the money to buy the fish to uncle Exaltation who was of the opinion that good fish for the wedding should not compete with good liquor for his insides, added to the fact that electricity in Assagao can barely run the lights let alone the cooling, the banquet was bound to be a disaster. It would have been just another Salcette wedding albeit taking place in Bardez, had it not been for the bridegroom the panch being a man well known in every criminal court this side of the Mandovi. That accounted for his need to invite every well known criminal lawyer in his district. And the fact that all these gentlemen having partaken of this fish could not attend court for several days. Could you blame them for refusing that day on, to represent the panch in any of his cases? And further can you blame the panch for not only refusing to pay aunt Visitation and uncle Exaltation for their troubles but also to take them to court for one of the most heinous crimes committed in Bardez? Thus explains uncle's sudden love for democratic processes and enduring affection for Advocate Jos. Peter D'Souza or rather for his principled stand that every man (and woman) accused should be entitled to representation, no matter the crime. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] DEAR AUNTY No. 20 - WEEKLY HUMOR :-))
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. DEAR AUNTY No. 20 - WEEKLY TOP 12: _ 1. DEAR AUNTY, I'm a Patel mum. We really push our kids. You wanna knock-knock us?? Bina .. Dear Bina: Knock! Knock!...Who's there?...Patel !...Patel who?? Arree,...Pa.tel Ma to stop bothering us! ___ 2. DEAR AUNTY, Zany Question: Why did the bakri buzz ? Vaz . Dear Vaz: Because it found the caju funny ! ___ 3. DEAR AUNTY, Strange 'things' found this month in both Coke and Pepsi. Yet the Goa FDA is only suing Pepsi, for these foreign 'things'. Why not Coke? Cola .. Dear Cola: Because honey, Things go better with Coke ! ___ 4. DEAR AUNTY, Why did the combi cross the India border ? Tikka ... Dear Tikka: Because the combi-nation's on the other side ! (combi=chicken)* ___ 5. DEAR AUNTY, Our late dad was a motorcycle pilot. But he always wanted to act as 25-year old hero in Biblical movies. Suggest a good role for our late-pai? Piki .. Dear Piki: How about 'Ponchis Pai-late'? (ponchis=25)* ___ 6. DEAR AUNTY, Where can I get 2 Goan nurses to wheel my old Mum and push my Dad? Zantye Dear Zantye: Apollo Hospital, Margao. Ask for Wil-ma and Push-pa ! ___ 7. DEAR AUNTY, I took a toy gun to give my friend in my new school in America, but when I took it out and shouted Le-lo yaar, dost !, why everybody run away? Singh ... Dear Singh:Dude, translation: Lay low, you're toast ! ___ 8. DEAR AUNTY, My hubby Olav Viegas loves gambling. What T-shirt to get for his bday? Elma .. Dear Elma:How about one that says I love Vegas ?? ___ 9. DEAR AUNTY, Chief Secretary and the Goa govt. announced a major terrorist threat this this week from unknown men. But what if it's a woman terrorist ? Teresa Dear Teresa:Why then, we'll just have to go and terrorize out ! (terrorize=tear her eyes)* ___ 10. DEAR AUNTY, Why uncle go Margao to Africa stores? Buy cooker, steamer, toaster? Kaptin Dear Kaptin: Yes, he just went buy steamer to 'Africa'. ___ 11. DEAR AUNTY, Zany Question: Whom did Rodriques see Henri-quis? Jacques . Dear Jacques: I dunno but, Nunes said he was a bad Moniz ! (Henri-kiss!)* ___ 12. DEAR AUNTY, Your knock-knock jokes are delicious ! Some more snacks please? JoeGoaUK .. Dear JoeGoaUK: Knock! Knock!...Who's there?...Pat !...Pat is who?? Arree,.Pattis haina zalear, mak punn di ! ___ Disclaimer: all original material [EMAIL PROTECTED] *translations for 'tube-lights' non-konkani readers worldwide. Forward with acknowledgement. For Aunty Ponty's photos of Toronto's 'Goa Day' 'Viva Goa 2006' click on: http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] The Anjuna flea market and the Rock solid moral code
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- George Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3. 5 homosexuals came along and were looking for protection. You have come to the right place I told them, here is Gilbert's wisdom sheet to protect you from sin and eternal damnation. They took the paper and since this is a family friendly forum I cannot disclose how they used it for protection. I was one of the homosexuals that George gave Gilbert's sheet to, and I will tell you what I did with that piece of paper. I folded it neatly and took it to a Hindu priest in the nearby temple of Kamadeva, the God of Love and Sex. I wanted a second opinion from a religious expert on Gilbert's morality of benign neglect, to find out if it was benign or malignant. I also wanted to know whether this highly questionable rock solid moral code was based on genuine rock solid facts or on the arbitrary flimsy opinion of Gilbert's relatives and fellow campers. Bhotmaam took the paper and promptly scribbled something on the back of it in Romi Sanskrit. Then without saying a word he handed it to me. I have just translated what he has written with my handy-dandy Practical Sanskrit-English Dictionary of Vaman Shivram Apte. This is what the Bhotmaam had written: Ask Shri Gilbert these questions, which signify the highest form of morality known to man. And be sure to elicit from him a yes or no answer for each question. If he answers no to these questions, then this man is truly a moral man, and I would offer him Kamadeva's choicest blessings. If he answers yes then his morality is relative morality, and we might as well call his moral code a rock-and-roll moral code. Here are my questions: 1. Have you visited a foreign country? 2. Do you eat beef and pork? 3. Do you drink alcoholic beverages? 4. Do you listen to rock-and-roll music? 5. Have you married outside your caste or religion? 6. Have you killed a lizard? I hope Gilbert answers these questions. Cheers, Santosh ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] HIV-positive Indian has to abort her own foetus
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. HIV-positive Indian has to abort her own foetus Sep 01 8:03 AM US/Eastern Health authorities in eastern India began a probe into reports Friday that an HIV-positive woman was forced to perform an abortion on herself after doctors refused help. The 23-year-old woman was advised to have an abortion after testing positive for the deadly virus, but doctors at a state-run hospital in Kolkata refused to treat her because of her infection. Medical staff at Kolkata Medical College left pills to induce an abortion by her bedside, said D. Pandey, a doctor at a non-profit group who is the woman's neighbour. Read the rest of this story at: http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/09/01/060901120337.ajk595e6.html ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] More Konkani Songs Video clips added (some with improved qlty)
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Did you know ? In less than 12 days, there are over 840 views so far.. Trio Kids Aliston, Royston, Franky, Other Kids Sonia, Shruti, Hazel, Victor, Jr, Chico etc Also inlcudes, Sharon, Wilson, H Britton, Tomazin Cardoz, Juana, Annie, Olga etc etc Find out more... Just tpe ''Joegoauk'' in google search engine and then click on Video and you will get the following listings.. (not seen in plain text readers, try here http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/message/1010 ) Then click the thumbnail photo or the link in blue, and watch your video clip instantly. Keep searching for more joegoauk'' clips which would be added periodically. Enjoy the Video!! Note: Check the latest, best Video quality Clip so far 'The new trio kids'' with sound and adjustable window screen. Imp: some Clips have no SOUND. Any problem in viewing, pl let me know. Promating Saving GOA/KONKANI is my main aim. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... ttp://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank interest rates etc etc (for updates etc click below) http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/files/ ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Science and Truth / Ref: Kevin's Comments
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Kevin writes: This is exactly the reason Science is upheld as the ONLY legitimate way to the TRUTH! It is self correcting, --- Peter D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Kevin, Science is truth, but scientific opinion often isn't. Science is limited to a few dimensions of truth, so don't get too caught up with it as the be- all and end-all of everything that's true. Mario adds: The following link shows how science is self-correcting:-)) http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/tyne/5283278.stm First environmental supremo Al Gore produces a movie warning that global warming will lead to wholesale flooding from melting glaciers, citing science as his source. Now come other scientists that warn us that countries that depend on melting glaciers for their water are in jeopardy because global warming is causing some glaciers to grow!!! Some glaciers melting, while others are growing all because of global warming. Isn't science wonderful? ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Goan Mums and Dads
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. While we honor Goa and Goans with World Goa Day, could we find a way to honor our Goan Mums and Dads in some collective way also? They will always remain in our individual hearts but we must bring our joy, gratitude and celebration out in the open to tell them, wherevere they are that: 1. We appreciate their hard work and monetary sacrifices to make us what we are. 2. We thank them for understanding that in the future of their children, education would play an important part. 3. We see how large problems in their marriages they would make small so that we would have two parents. 4. We benefit from the values of faith and morals, humility and helpfulness they demonstrated to us by example. 5. We forgive for the many physical punishments they made us endure not in anger, but in the belief that it would make us better. 6 We remember what it is to be a Goan because they were Goans before they were anything else. and simply because 7. They mostly lived more for us than for themselves. I don't care how we do it, nor who is credited for suggesting it. What matters to me as it should matter to all of us is that we should be able to do it. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Fake quotes - Stale advice instead of action
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- Frederick \FN\ Noronha Now, how about giving up on flogging this dead horse, since were're actually getting no-where on it? --- Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frederick, Forgive me for being direct with you. Instead of dispensing stale advice and cliches, how about enforcing the existing Goanet rules? When is the last time you have suspended or expelled anybody for repeatedly violating them? If my views and posts violate the rules, please kick me out? I for one will not complain. This is a moderated forum where the moderators are supposed to be in charge. Don't worry about being accused of censorship. Please have some courage for a change. Why are you wasting time trying to be fair to everybody? You may think you are fair, but in a lop-sided world there is no fairness. Habitual violators of the rules will always get away if the moderators are weak. So please have the courage to kick me out. Mario observes: Fred, Actually flogging this dead horse is resulting in the much needed exposure of some tendencies that many Goanet members of the silent majority variety have apparently been chafing under for quite sometime now. To wit, the unprovoked attacks on Christian and other religious beliefs of many Goanet members by a small coterie of aggressive atheists and agnostics and moral relativists determined to ridicule and denigrate organized religion sometimes using scurrilous methods in order to do so. We have seen this in the recent attempt to show that the moral codes of organized morally based groups are fake, the shrill attempts to prove that Hitler was a staunch Catholic in good standing by a member who claims to be a Catholic but is on record as being unable to even recognize the attacks on religion or the rock solid Catholic moral codes, the attempts to prove that the Vatican was complicit in Nazi atrocities, and the slyly worded flame baits using alleged provocations that had nothing to do with what anyone on Goanet had opined or any discussion that was taking place on Goanet. Then we see curious and comical attempts to deflect attention towards alleged rule violations by other members and objections to the moderators ...trying to be fair to everybody. We all know that Santosh is being disingenious when he says without qualification, If my views and posts violate the rules, please kick me out We all know that he does not habitually violate the rules. Neither do other members habitually violate the rules. However, my impression is that the moderators have been more than generous in interpreting Santosh's posts to the chagrin of other members. Therefore, Santosh is correct that the moderators need to be more consistent and firm in applying the rules equally TO ALL MEMBERS. I also think they should explain a rejection in more detail which gives a member the opportunity to edit their post and re-submit it. I don't think anyone seriously wants Santosh or anyone else kicked off an open public forum like Goanet. Even his leadership role in denigrating religion is part of free speech as far as I'm concerned, as long as others are allowed to respond. I think it would suffice if any open flame baits, no matter whom they come from, especially ones that are allegedly provoked by events outside the opinions and discussions on Goanet, are more closely scrutinized. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Hitler as a Catholic
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Hi, So much has been written about the above topic. Now could some one tell my Germany is called the Father land and not Mother land as done for most countries? Are there any other countries which are father lands? Cheers Jerry Fernandes --- This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the Administrator. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. Finally, the recipient should check this e-mail and any attachment for the presence of viruses. The company accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. Jarir Bookstore ..not just a bookstore Visit us: www.jarirbookstore.com 4/9/2006 ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Results of Konkani Essay Competition
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. RESULTS OF KONKANI ESSAY COMPETITION - 2006. The following are the results of the Konkani essay competition organized by Fr. Freddy J. Da Costa Memorial Trust: 1. Group A (Std. I to VII): First prize :Hanvem Monoil'le Suttieche Dis Delivia E. D'Souza, Assagao, Script: Devnagri Second prize : Zannttim Ani Zanntteanchim Ghoram Kimberley Mascarenhas, Fatorda. Script: Devnagri 2. Group B (Std. VIII to XII): : First prize: Soimik Apot'ticho Monis Jinecher Porinam' Judy Anna D'Souza, Divchol. Script: Devnagri Second prize : Dhorm Kai Odhorm? Madhuranjan T. Gaonkar, Curchorem. Script: Devangri . 3. Group C (upto 28 years of age): First prizeNokrecho Sod Ghetana. Petcy Pereira, Curchorem. Script: Romi Second prize : Dev! Asa kai Nam? Cavin Fernandes, Velim. Script: Dvenagri. Mr. S. R. Barreto, Mr. S. P. Verenkar Mr. Elliton Fernandes judged the entries. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] World Konkani Day'06
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. World Konkani Day - 2006 Goan Review Art Foundation (GRAF) is celebrating the World Konkani event - WORLD KONKANI DAY-2006 at St. Mary's Jr. College Hall, Kalina, Santa Cruz (East) on 10th. September 2006 (Sunday) commencing at 7.00 p.m. World Konkani Day is being celebrated in recongnition of Konkani as one of the national languages of the country. This year, August 20, commemorated the 14th anniversary of inclusion of Konkani in the eighth schedule of the Indian Constitution. This great day will be celebrated with a Variety Entertainment programme highlighting rich traditional culture of Konkan, consisting of Mando-dulpods, folk dances, songs and sing-along. Not to miss mouth watering Goan Culinary delicacies. Prominent Konkani personalities who have rendered yeoman service to Konkani language, art and culture will be felicitated at this function. For further details and entry passes contact GRAF on 22630139 or 22059719 (Maureen) or 9821752011 (Domnic). ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Goanet and religion bashing
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Joe Vaz wrote: Notably among the religion bashers were Santosh Helekar and company, as the archives will abundantly reveal. I am surprised that this Joe is so charitable to me this time around. But what is interesting is he only resorts to name-calling against me here. To me it is quite clear why he mentions my name, and is afraid to name anybody else in the company? Cheers, Santosh ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] AICHEA DISAK CHINTOP - Setembrachi 5vi, 2006!
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Tujeam dusmanancho mog kor karann te tujeo chuki tuka sangtat. (Love your enemies for they tell you your faults.) Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] False claims about unprovoked flame baits
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. When someone on Goanet says they were provoked to write a flame bait it means provoked by someone on Goanet or by a discussion taking place on Goanet. In his first example below, Santosh did not reference anything anyone had said, as he now claims retroactively. Thus it was, by definition, a pure, unadulterated and gratuitous flame bait. With reference to Santosh's second example, George Pinto had posted WITHOUT COMMENT a link to an article about a restaurant in Mumbai named after Hitler. Santosh's subsequent post, apparently endorsing the hideous mentality that naming a restaurant after Hitler represented, then gratuitously INITIATED a snide, unprovoked and deliberately untruthful personal attack ridiculing President Bush, without any logical connection to anything in the article. I previously showed how Santosh had written pure flame baits about morally based organizations having fake morality by deliberately using false statistical methods - using exceptions to make false allegations. This was made even more egregious because Santosh is professionally knowledgeable about the use of statistical evidence in arriving at a conclusion. Thus, his claim that he never posts unprovoked flame baits is false. Santosh has clearly INITIATED the flame baits that are referred to below, unprovoked by anyone on Goanet and without any connection to any discussion taking place on Goanet at the time. --- Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In direct contradiction to the assertion above, the following are two unprovoked and very recent flame baits from Santosh. The above statement is false. The following response was provoked by abusive posts containing malicious lies and fabricated quotes meant to malign me in this forum: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2006-August/047704.html The following response was provoked by the mention of naming of a footwear outlet after george bush in a news report that George cited. It was also provoked by my disgust at the incompetence, mendacity and disastrous policies of george w. bush. http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2006-August/047553.html ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] In Praise of Albert
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. To answer the last first... Incidentally, Mr. Noronha, your posts of late show a bit of arrogance of You're probably right. May I point out though, when I did no/little-opinion-injected reporting for years together, I was accused of being a fence sitter. Now, you have my views out there, someone discovers they don't like it, and dismisses it with labels. Please argue against views, not persons. You have a right to your opinion though (on judging my arrogance level, or whatever). On 04/09/06, Fausto Dias [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Mr. Noronha: ..the arrogance that goes monotheism (sic). What on earth is that? Which are the religions you would describe as polytheistic? Hinduism? My friendly Padre, a former Prof at Rachol, assures me that Hinduism is monotheistic. My comments were made in a certain context. Which is (if you'll give me the chance to quote myself, as some religioius authorities are wont to do): QUOTE http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2006-September/047949.html Some posters feel a needless urge to prove others' religion wrong. This probably comes from the arrogance that goes monotheism (but, not restricted to them). UNQUOTE Regardless of what your friend avers, and what position he held in the seminary, the facts speak for themselves. I am not saying polytheism is superior to monotheism, or that monotheism is superior to polytheism. They're just different. But let's face the facts squarely and admit that if you believe in the one true God ideal, it could make you somewhat to pretty intolerant to the religious beliefs of others. If I could be proven wrong on this one, it's going to be great: not from the point of my own ego, but in the interest of global understanding. --FN PS: BTW, I was just speaking on a very specific point. In no way am I suggesting that intolerance and bigotry comes from one religion alone. It exists in different forms. I do hold that Hindutva (the politicisation of religion, not religion or Hinduism itself) is a major threat to India and its diversity and unity. Not from the minorities' point of view (as is often portrayed on fora such as Goanet), but from the point of the view of the majority of Hindus themselves! -- --- Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org 9822122436 +91-832-240-9490 http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Taking coals to Newcastle
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- Velho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: About those rampant English girls, I am a bit worried but only because my girl friend is already there :)) Mario observes: Sunith, Were you absent from class when the teacher talked about taking coals to Newcastle???:-)) ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Gilbert's benign neglect/ to Mario
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Hi Mario, My apologies for this delayed response, but no apologies for anything else as you have masterly wormed out of answering a few of my questions by your usual twists, distortions deflections, that I don't have the time, patience or even botheration to clarify! ;-) And FYI, the Golden rule of reciprocity is not unique to Christianity, but finds its appearance in many religions including Atheistic ones, as I pointed out in the post you mentioned, where you will find out the answer to why I burst into the scene. (FYI, I burst into the scene well before that post, but you were too immersed in this Great Religious Debate to notice) http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2006-June/044857.html http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2006-July/045134.html As for your belief that Hitler was a manifestation of Satan himself, it is fine by me...as someone once told me One is entitled to ones own opinions but not to one's own facts.;-) Cheers, Aristo. Mario wrote: Aristo, I knew you were not really being honest when you said that your previous post on the subject was your last regardless of what anyone else had to say:-)) Why did someone called Aristo burst on the scene claiming that rapists were encouraged to rape because of the Christian Golden Rule? ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] No Advocate re fish dish
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Dear Roland, I had no idea the delectable fish mayonnaise dish (pronounced miynase ofcourse) was indigenous to Salcette. It truly is a delight and takes pride of place at any wedding or festa. Curious, that such a continental dish is native to Salcette. I always thought Bardez was the last bastion of Indo-European culture, while we Shastikars had maintained our Goaness. :) Selma - --- Roland Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now anyone worth their salt who has attended a Goan Catholic wedding of any note in the Salcette taluka will know that the cold fish dish represents the highlight of the wedding banquet. People throughout Salcette and specially those native to Margao are known to elbow aside (literally) less hardy people in their mad rush to the table, mainly to help themselves to a generous portion of the cold fish. This despite the fact that every guest at every wedding where the said cold fish dish is served, inevitably has the runs during the entire morning following the wedding. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Talking Photos: Some of the the finest Sarvojanik Ganesh Idols..
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Recently discussed, ''Matolli'' also seen http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk4/233807931/ Thanks. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... ttp://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ Konkani Songs, Goan Photos, Tiatr/Film VCDs, Bank interest rates etc etc (for updates etc click below) http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/files/ ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] LATEST WARNING to STUDENTS : CMTES - COURSES MARGAO
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. We,at South Goa Public Interest Action Group (SGPIAG) a registered NGO based in Margao,Salcete, South Goa District ,with jurisdiction, at present, over the entire South Goa District :- had been informed by IATA office in New Delhi India, on behalf of their principal in Geneva, that the -STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP logo of IATA used by CMTES (Hyderabad) for their Course in a) Diploma in Cabin Crew Hospitality Management at the address : 3rd Floor , Niana Plaza Near Police Station Margao Goa Email id is [EMAIL PROTECTED] telephone Numbers +91 0832 2730873 27573721 +91 3097170 was in fact intended only for their In-Flight Services working area and has the authority from IATA to use the Strategic Partnership Logo only as per logo usage guidelines sent to them when they signed up for the program. Therefore the Strategic Partnership Program ONLY allows the use of the Strategic Partner logo -AND DOES NOT VALIDATE -the training that is being conducted. The program that accredits schools and their training is our IATA UFTAA Accredited Training Centre IATA FIATA Accredited Training Centre programmes. Following this reply recieved by SGPIAG, the CMTES ceased from putting this logo on all the advertisements on local dailies thereafter, viz; using IATA and strategic partnership logos, but failed to remove the same from their hoardings. We therefore pursued the issue de novo and after repeated reminders we have now finally recieved an email as under: *** Dear Mr. Mazarelo, IATA has already written to Mr. Prabhagar, CMD of CMTES informing him that CMTES's Strategic Partnership will NOT be re-newed unless they also apply and qualify as an IATA UFTAA Accredited Training Centre first. In this, Mr. Prabhagar is already in communications with IATA for the procedures for qualifying for the IATA UFTAA ATC program. Through this program CMTES will have: IATA accredited instructors IATA authorised curriculum IATA validated examinations IATA certificates for successful candidates I hope this should allay your apprehensions. Please do feel free to write to us in case you seek further clarifications. Many thanks best regards. Sarbasis BHATTACHARYA (Shorba) Sales Manager - India, Marketing Commercial Services (MACS) Tel: +91 11 41524672 (Direct) Tel: +91 11 41521070 / 55302033 / 55302034 Mob: +91 9910063747 Fax: +91 11 41524675 / 23353916 / 23752889 Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] International Air Transport Association 207 - 208, Kailash Building, 26, Kasturba Gandhi Marg, New Delhi - 110001, India Web: www.iata.org *** However, it is shocking that the Hon'ble Minister for Education Mr Luisinho Faleiro, M.Com LL.B has not been able to put a check on the activites of CMTES even to this date. From the reply from IATA Canada conveyed through New Delhi office reproduced above it is clear that the first batch of students who were made to believe that the CMTES course was IATA affiliated will now be in trouble. As they would have paid for a course which does not have IATA recognition and the huge fees have gone waste. It is indeed shocking that the Government of Goa allows such dubious institutions to set up shop and dupe the gullible students of SSC and XII. Earlier M/s Frankfinn had also done the same. Though they continue to give an impression that many of their students have got employment on airlines. It is definitely not because of the validity of the Certificate but the personality traits of the chosen few, which have got them on airlines. Mr Faleiro's reply to this issue was that the KNOWLEDGE COMISSION of Goa headed by Dr Peter De Souza ex Goa University, is addressing this issue and their report is awaited. It is the desire of SGPIAG that the Goa Government should order an investigation into both M/s Frankfinn and M/s CMTES and we at SGPIAG would be ready to assist the Goa Government in this task. Meanwhile it is also our earnest request to all advertising managers of local news audio or visual media to ascertain the credentials of institutions advertising with them even if it amounts to losing gross revenue needed for funding their publications. Atleast when an institution like SGPIAG a regd NGO has exposed the irregularities they ought to have ceased from accepting advertisements. It is also a fact that though fees
[Goanet] Letting go
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Hello Friends: It's the Labor Day weekend here in the USA. Duty, discipline and responsibility are the values most celebrated in this season. May it also be a joyful celebration of fun and freedom. I'm sorry that my previous posting got garbled. http://www.spiritualdirection.org/NewsAlert.htm I hope you enjoy the two interfaith practices and a spiritual profile. 1. Practices for Peaceful Living http://www.spiritualdirection.org/Practices-For%20Peaceful%20Living.htm 2. The Mystical Lord's Prayer http://www.spiritualdirection.org/Practices-MysticalPrayer.htm 3. Joseph Naik Vaz of Goa http://www.spiritualdirection.org/Profile-JVaz.htm May Letting go continue to inspire us on our interfaith journey. http://www.spiritualdirection.org/Poem-Letting%20go.htm With every good wish and prayer Fr. Ariosto Coelho www.SpiritualDirection.org -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/437 - Release Date: 9/4/2006 ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] A CALL TO ALL GOANS
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Dear Save Goa Front, I have some rather depressing news for you. Goans settled outside of Goa do not care about Goa. I don't want to undermine the work done by such organisations as Goa Sudharop or the amounts repatriated by Gulf Goans or the interest shown by determined expatriate Goans, but apart from a minuscule minority, the vast majority of expatriate Goans and their children care a whit about Goa. I personally know of friends and family, people who benefited from a subsidised Goan education, who've gone on to become doctors and entrepreneurs in foreign countries, who have nothing but a passing interest in Goa. How else can you explain the lack of expatriate funded hospitals or schools or scholarships or even a heartfelt support of our writers or artists? Oprah Winfry who is no more African than J F Kennedy was Irish, has always maintained a bond with Africa. A bond that recently made possible a 40 million dollar school, in South Africa. Perhaps we've trained our ears not to listen to the wind-flute that calls our name from our native land. Perhaps we've become so engrossed in paying our second mortgages and driving our third car out of the 2 floor garage. Whatever it is, we've failed miserably and each succeeding generation distances itself even more. Please don't wait for the diaspora to help you. Goa rests in your own hands. We will have our functions where sorpatel is eaten with gusto and matters of Goa debated with indignation but that is as far it will go. A two week holiday and trinkets bought at Arjuna, completes this voyage of self-discovery on part of second-generation expat children. Goa belongs to you, Goans in Goa. You have to rise to the occasion, hold your representatives accountable, protect your institutions and create a society you are proud of and want to live in. selma - --- airesrod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Save Goa Front (SGF) gives a clarion call to all Goans settled outside Goa to raise their voices and do whatever possible to salvage Goa and the Goan identity. There is a need for Goans across India and the world to close ranks and Save Goa. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] The New Goanet
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. I think the advent of Aristo, Selma, Francis, Roland, Jerry and Kevin, and the re-emergence of Sunith has been great for Goanet. Their arguments have been extremely cogent, mature, well-articulated and beautiful. Nobody has been able to refute them. I am very confident that these good people will continue to express their views without fear, and I hope that many more like them become active on Goanet. Cheers, Santosh ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] No Advocate re fish dish
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Selma, I thought it was pronounced 'minus'? Anyone who has a few rotting fish and too many guests can lay claim to his or her version of 'minus'. Helga Dear Roland, I had no idea the delectable fish mayonnaise dish (pronounced miynase ofcourse) was indigenous to Salcette. It truly is a delight and takes pride of place at any wedding or festa. Curious, that such a ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] No Advocate re fish dish/response Helga
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Sheesh Helga, I had no idea minus was made out of rotting fish. I'm never going to eat minus with the same amount of reverence again. :)) Selma --- Helga do R. Gomes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Selma, I thought it was pronounced 'minus'? Anyone who has a few rotting fish and too many guests can lay claim to his or her version of 'minus'. Helga __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Hitler as a fascist
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. After I sent my response to Cornel, I departed on our long Labor Day weekend. Hence I did not read any goanet mail over the holiday. Yet the six hour drive gave me time to think about the offensive wording of Hitler was a Catholic Fascist in company with other Catholic Fascists of Europe. For this to come from Cornel, may suggest that he has unfamiliarity with English, at least American-English. Or his British environment makes him desensitized to this phraseology. Recently, Andrew Young the former US ambassador to the UN, referred to Jewish shopkeepers, Arab shopkeepers and Korean shopkeepers overpricing their products, in the USA. He had to apologize to them and (was forced to) resign from his seat on the Walmart Board losing a likely salary in excess of $100,000:00. I hope no Goan makes this misjudgment. If Cornel was a professor of English at one of the American schools or colleges, his remarks would be cause for his dismissal from the staff, due to demagoguery of the religion. To those who may not appreciate the faux pas of Cornel's phraseology, it is the equivalent of terming the prisoners in Goa's jails as Catholic murderer or Hindu robber, Muslim rapist etc. Either our ignorance or our tolerance / desensitized to nuances, permit a lot of demagoguery on Goanet. And I wish the moderators did something about it, to raise the standard of discourse. From the responses I have received, many Catholic Goans are upset at those who talk about the outdated caste system in the present. The last discussion we had on the subject, the overwhelming consensus was that, caste was a thing of the past. Now, one does not even know their colleagues' or associates' caste. Goans who have written to me have suggested that those who in the unlikely circumstances, still carry scars of their caste, had a narrow upbringing. Hence we, as the large community of Goans today, should no longer tolerate this diversionary, abusive and circumstantial attack on Goan Catholics and the Church. I however do compliment Cornel for feeling offended by my terming his writings as anti-Catholic. In fact, I am proud of him for wanting to be proud of his Catholic credentials. I hope he and he rest of us in moving forward pay closer attention of our writings. Fred rightly points out, this thread migrated off its origin. Yet, one of the main persons who started the dialogue used the outrageous terminology. This tells us that the thread was not started with the high intentions that Fred suggest. Kind Regards, GL --- Frederick Noronha wrote: In sum, the attempt to reduce this to a Was Hitler a Catholic debate is a way of subverting the issue. FN Cornel wrote on Hitler: I am in absolute agreement with Aristo that Hitler was a Catholic Fascist and in good company with other WW2 Catholic Fascists like Franco (helped greatly by Hitler in the Spanish Civil War), and Mussolini. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] The New Goanet/response to Santosh
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Dear Santosh, To be honest, I am always fearful when I voice an opinion. Sometimes, it is taken as an affront on someone's deeply held beliefs. Sometimes, it is regarded as absurd and ridiculed. When I was more Catholic, I would bring to mind the words of Charlotte Bronte's Mr Rochester, I know my God approves of what I do, for the world's opinion, I care not. Now that I am more secular, I remember Desmond Tutu's words in a documentary about Thomas Mann, there is no black and white in life. One must believe by the skin of one's teeth that what they are doing is right and then do it. That is how I generally operate, by the skin of my teeth and to damnation with my detractors. I enjoy your posts on religion. To me they are just your personal hypotheses and not a reflection and assault on anyone's faith. If, we as Christians in our Quixotian desire to defend our religion, see you as a Christian basher, we really are tilting at windmills. If you want my opinion, write what you have to. Don't bother defending your views. Let the chips fall where they may. For every one person, you offend, there will be two that you will educate and perhaps convince to your point of view. We are all adult enough to discern for ourselves exactly what we want to believe. All this defending the faith by self-appointed crusaders, is self-serving aggrandisment at best. Selma -- --- Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the advent of Aristo, Selma, Francis, Roland, Jerry and Kevin, and the re-emergence of Sunith has been great for Goanet. Their arguments have been extremely cogent, mature, well-articulated and beautiful. Nobody has been able to refute them. I am very confident that these good people will continue to express their views without fear, and I hope that many more like them become active on Goanet. Cheers, Santosh ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] The New Goanet - where unprovoked Christian bashing will not stand
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Found this in the thrash section of the Goanet archives. It speaks for itself to anyone who has been following the posts on Goanet Mario my friend, There is no trash section in the Goanet archives. That idea exists only in one persons mind :-) Unfortunately, they seem to have run out of coherent or sensible ideas and are reduced to comical inanities like the one above. No follower of Jesus Christ can ever claim to be a Christian and, at the same time, use his name as a cuss word. You are unable to understand this. Mervyn3.0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Salcette Cooking - And what Selma must know.
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Dear Selma, You must know and that without any ambiguity that Bardez is a state of mind and has always been about the mind. While Shastikars and Shastikarns have always followed the beaten path, we from Bardez have innovated, challenged, philosophized and created. For example when I a young lad was always forced to wear formal dress to the village function in the sweltering Bombay heat (my Mum was a Shastikarn after all), I stoutly refused and wore a casual shirt instead. Took after my Dad the Bardezkar who was a practical gentleman if nothing else. As for the question of the delectable fish dish, we Bardezkars had rejected it as being unsuitable for our fine palates. We did not wish to smell in front of our charming ladies, especially when dancing with them. Instead, we spent our energies on creating fine desserts and mouthwatering sweets that matched our suave exteriors. Anyone can stuff their mouths with fish, but it takes time and grace to lift a little sweet from a tray, whisk it through the air in an arc and slowly lower it to melt on the tip of your tongue. Now perhaps you will understand why my aunt Visitation who was a true Bardezkarn had to hire cooks from Salcette to make that fish entree. PS. In case Shastikars on Goanet take offence to my haughty condescending attitude towards them, I will defer as an exception and in the interests of amity, to their prawn balchao, something we have always tried to imitate but never succeeded. Selma said: I had no idea the delectable fish mayonnaise dish (pronounced miynase ofcourse) was indigenous to Salcette. It truly is a delight and takes pride of place at any wedding or festa. Curious, that such a continental dish is native to Salcette. I always thought Bardez was the last bastion of Indo-European culture, while we Shastikars had maintained our Goaness. :) ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Goa news for September 5, 2006
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Goa News from Yahoo! News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Tension in Goa village over threat (New Kerala) Panaji, Sep 4: Tension prevailed at Saleli village in north Goa, which had witnessed a mob fury and murder of the owner of a stone crushing unit in February, police said today. http://www.newkerala.com/news4.php?action=fullnewsid=17038 *** Goa to host vegetarian congress (New Kerala) New Delhi, Sep 1: India will host the 37th edition of the International Vegetarian Congress in Goa from Sep 10. The six-day congress, organised by International Vegetarian Union, will discuss the challenges vegetarians face across the globe. http://www.newkerala.com/news4.php?action=fullnewsid=16153 *** Goa celebrates Ganesh Chaturthi with traditional fervour (New Kerala) Cumbarjua (Goa), Sept 3: Hundreds of villagers in Goa lined the bank of a rivulet to watch immersion of idols of Lord Ganesh as part of the Ganesh Chaturthi festival. http://www.newkerala.com/news4.php?action=fullnewsid=16827 *** Goa set to become India's Vegas (The Times of India) The state government on Saturday announced it would allow 10 casinos just off its tourist-packed beaches. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1956908.cms *** Goa set to become India's Vegas (The Times of India) The state government has announced that it would allow 10 casinos just off its tourist-packed beaches. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1956983.cms *** BJP flays govt policy to allow more off-shore casinos (Navhind Times) Panaji, Sept 4: The Bharatiya Janata Party today strongly opposed the policy of the government to allow a maximum of 10 off-shore casinos in the state and said that the decision would not only worsen the already deteriorated law and order situation in Goa, but also introduce other related vices like sex trade, money laundering, Hawala transactions and rampant use of weapons. http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=090549 *** Experts to inspect Zuari bridge soon (Navhind Times) Panaji, Sept 4: Experts from the Central Road Research Institute (CRRI) and Gammon India will arrive in Goa within next 8 to 10 days to carry out the required inspection of the Zuari bridge, the PWD chief engineer (II), Mr J S S Rego today told #152;The Navhind Times. http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=090548 *** Goa celebrates Ganesh Chaturthi with traditional fervour (Yahoo! India News) Cumbarjua (Goa), Sept 3 (ANI): Hundreds of villagers in Goa lined the bank of a rivulet to watch immersion of idols of Lord Ganesh as part of the Ganesh Chaturthi festival. http://in.news.yahoo.com/060903/139/6785z.html *** Hotel Leelaventure plans golf course in Goa (Reuters via Yahoo! Asia News) MUMBAI, Sept 4 (Reuters) - Hotel Leelaventure Ltd. said on Monday its board had approved buying about 250 acres (101 hectares) of land in Goa to develop golf course and facilities. http://asia.news.yahoo.com/060904/3/2pdwu.html *** Getting knotty in Goa(Yahoo! India News) Puneites are heading to romantic Goa to exchange their wedding vows WOULDN'T it be just perfect if you took those important steps into holy matrimony with the waves lazily lapping the shore as background music and the palms swaying almost as if blessing the occasion?If that's your dream, you can make it come true. Head straight for the sun kissed beaches of Goa, as Shipra Singh and Pratap http://in.news.yahoo.com/060902/48/677uk.html Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Fish Mayonaise, Sourdough Bread,etc. from Salcete
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Hi Selma, Your assessment of Bardez being the last bastion of European Culture may need to be reconsidered. Much before the Bardezkars learnt recipes for european dishes from the missionaries and adopted them, legions of Sashtikar cooks and bulters worked on the BI and PO ships with British officers and adopted to western food habits and adopted their dishes/recipes as their very own, so fish Mayonaise is no surprise.. It was the Sashtikar bakers from Majorda, Salcete with the sourdough bread (commonly know as Undo or Pao which is synonymous with Goan, BTW) who convinced the Bardezkar to switch from his Kundia Bakri to our Pao. Best Regards, Dr. Carmo A. D'Cruz ex Velim, Goa now Indian Harbour Beach, Florida -- Message: 7 Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 08:17:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet] No Advocate re fish dish To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Dear Roland, I had no idea the delectable fish mayonnaise dish (pronounced miynase ofcourse) was indigenous to Salcette. It truly is a delight and takes pride of place at any wedding or festa. Curious, that such a continental dish is native to Salcette. I always thought Bardez was the last bastion of Indo-European culture, while we Shastikars had maintained our Goaness. :) Selma - --- Roland Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now anyone worth their salt who has attended a Goan Catholic wedding of any note in the Salcette taluka will know that the cold fish dish represents the highlight of the wedding banquet. People throughout Salcette and specially those native to Margao are known to elbow aside (literally) less hardy people in their mad rush to the table, mainly to help themselves to a generous portion of the cold fish. This despite the fact that every guest at every wedding where the said cold fish dish is served, inevitably has the runs during the entire morning following the wedding. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] The New Goanet
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Santosh, I would like to point out that we all are creatures of habit and politics. So, when someone who agrees with out ideological perspective speaks out, we applaud. It's a reflection of our own politics and bias, even if Scientific! So what you say may be true from *your* perspective. Others would obviously judge things differently. Likewise, I disagree with Mario Gouveia when he calls those whom he does not agree with a cabal. Rather than calling for a block on certain views on Goanet (which remains committed to free speech), those who dislike those views should attempt to clearly, honestly and without getting into a tizzy refute the same. Sorry, I don't think censorship of any perspective is the solution. On the other hand, the job of countering any perspective is the onus of those who disagree with it. Otherwise, we'll end up with a situation like in the past: people quit Goanet after being outargued and accused Goanet of cursing them! Of course, some of them are back now... despite repeated pledges not to post to Goanet. FN PS: If you think the above post contains flame-baits (which I think it does), please ignore the same :-) On 05/09/06, Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the advent of Aristo, Selma, Francis, Roland, Jerry and Kevin, and the re-emergence of Sunith has been great for Goanet. Their arguments have been extremely cogent, mature, well-articulated and beautiful. Nobody has been able to refute them. I am very confident that these good people will continue to express their views without fear, and I hope that many more like them become active on Goanet. Santosh -- --- Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org 9822122436 +91-832-240-9490 http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Fish Mayonaise, Sourdough Bread,etc. from Salcete
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Hey, this is fun. I don't think we've had a Salcete-versus-Bardez bashing match for ages. Or, have we ever had it? Must invite the ultimate Salcete-basher, Cecil Pinto. BTW, we guys in Bardez are less casteist than you. Not because we're more liberal, but because we migrated more. (Where are your St Joseph's Arpora and Mater Dei Saligao in Salcete?) And then, we had a convenient collective (selective) loss of memories. FN On 05/09/06, CARMO DCRUZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Selma, Your assessment of Bardez being the last bastion of European Culture may need to be reconsidered. Much before the Bardezkars learnt recipes for european dishes from the missionaries and adopted them, legions of Sashtikar cooks and bulters worked on the BI and PO ships with British officers and adopted to western food habits and adopted their dishes/recipes as their very own, so fish Mayonaise is no surprise.. It was the Sashtikar bakers from Majorda, Salcete with the sourdough bread (commonly know as Undo or Pao which is synonymous with Goan, BTW) who convinced the Bardezkar to switch from his Kundia Bakri to our Pao. -- --- Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org 9822122436 +91-832-240-9490 http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] What Goanet Means To Me
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Since I have always been a sucker for anything free (I suppose it's the Indian in me), Joegoauk's invitation in 2 sentences or 3 to say what Goanet means to me is graciously accepted. Just as my father loved to gather around the stone bench under the banyan tree and discuss ideas and stories with his fellow Assgaocars, I take great pleasure in doing the same with my fellow Goencars spread all over the world. Hey that's about 5 sentences except for my propensity to roll them all into one. Another prize for that? Now about Goanet and how we conduct ourselves. All and sundry subjects should be open to discussion. I remember when I was 12 years old, Nehru's aunt Vijayalaksmi Pandit an erudite and cultured person in her own right, shocking our parents when she came to present a lecture to them in St Xaviers school. She said let your children read anything and everything. You will be surprised at what good they will learn from it and how they will sooner discern the morally good and the repugnantly evil. What each one says on goanet is in the final analysis his or her own opinion. There is no such thing as religion bashing. If one side has presented their thoughts on atheism then those with faith are open to counter it. Let us avoid targeting individuals and instead seek out their thinking flaws and oppose it. Who knows whether their flaws are not really ours. There is no right and wrong in these discussions, there is just what fits your opinion. Remember Tilak and his famous words I do not agree with what you say but I shall defend with my life if need be, your right to say it. Please avoid hounding anyone, however far out their thinking. It will be our collective loss to lose any person from Goanet and the diversity of thinking they bring to it. One Goencar gone, makes all of us a little poorer in thought. Take heed that not all people have thick skins. Some folks come on the net with sensitivities sharpened or dulled by their own experiences and they come to Goanet to drink of its clear water. The water may not always be still. They do expect it to be oftentimes muddy and roiled and they will still drink from it, but let not the water be so putrid that they recoil and avoid. And finally let us take ourselves seriously only when we have to act on something good, not when we discuss for example Hitler and the IIIrd Reich. The judgment of what Hitler did is at is best left to William Shirer, Hugh Trevor-Roper, the descendants of 6 million Jews and those of the countless millions more he caused to be killed. The Church is not free from blame and we are free to condem what was not done as much as what was. As we must stand ready for our own condemnation ourselves when we merit it. As Shakespeare said, the world is a stage and we are all actors. Deo borem korunc tumin sogleanc bhavanndo and boininndo as my village parish priest would say when he saw the collection plates holding more bounty than was usual. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] The New Goanet/response to Santosh
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Hi Selma, I agree with your assessment of Santosh. He has been critical of Hindu and Muslim extremism too. In this day and age, some cold water needs to be put over the jihadists and extremists of all stripes. We are grown people and should learn to take criticism instead of hiding under the religion-bashing label. On a related point, you have probably noticed that Santosh takes flak because of his Hindu name. Regards, George ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] In Praise of Albert - Hindutva
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Frederick FN Noronha wrote the following on 2006-09-04 10:08:10 GMT (17 hours and 34 minutes ago): I do hold that Hindutva (the politicisation of religion, not religion or Hinduism itself) is a major threat to India and its diversity and unity. Fred, I wholeheartedly agree with your sentiments. My question to you is why you believe the Hindutva agenda poses a threat to India? Could you please elaborate? I would also humbly request for your opinion regarding the forms it appears in? (i.e. political outfits and the like) It would be interesting to hear your personal opinion on the matter. I'm sure it will generate a new political debate. _ Check the weather nationwide with MSN Search: Try it now! http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=weatherFORM=WLMTAG ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet-news] Goa news for September 1, 2006
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*** Can I get to Goa by ferry? (Times Online)
The Sunday Times opens its travel clinic on a daily basis to
answer your holiday queries. Today: ferries in India
http://travel.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,26689-2333711,00.html
*** Goa NGO to start laundry venture to help sex workers (New
Kerala)
Panaji, Aug 30: Victims of sex trafficking would soon own a
small scale industry in Goa's Sancoale Industrial Estate,
thanks to initiative by a non-government organisation.
http://www.newkerala.com/news4.php?action=fullnewsid=14882
*** Goa to form overseas recruitment agency (New Kerala)
Panaji, Aug 31: Goa government has decided to form an overseas
recruitment agency to streamline the process of employment
abroad.
http://www.newkerala.com/news4.php?action=fullnewsid=15284
*** GIM to organise 2-day national conference on logistics (New
Kerala)
Panaji, Aug 31: Goa Institute of Management (GIM) is organising
a two-day national conference from Septembet 2, which will
deliberate on the vital issue of 'logistics'.
http://www.newkerala.com/news4.php?action=fullnewsid=15417
*** Kotawala India acquires beach resort in Goa (New Kerala)
Mumbai, Aug 28: Financial services firm Kotawala India Ltd
today said it has acquired the Hotel Sunflower Beach Resort in
Goa. The company said in a filing on the Bombay Stock Exchange
that it acquired the resort situated in Calangute Bega, Goa.
http://www.newkerala.com/news4.php?action=fullnewsid=13832
*** Anti-human trafficking unit to come up: DGP (Navhind
Times)
Panaji, Aug 31: The Director-General of Police, Mr Neeraj Kumar
today informed that an anti-human trafficking unit is being set
up in Goa. However, the Goa police are waiting for funds.
http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=090150
*** Around 2 lakh foreign tourists expected to visit Goa
(Navhind Times)
Panaji, Aug 30: Around 850 charter flights are expected to land
in Goa in the ensuing tourist season bringing in nearly 2 lakh
foreign tourists. Over 700 charter flights landed in the state
last year bringing in around 1.5 lakh tourists.
http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=083154
*** Goa on the radar of terrorists: Chief Secy (Navhind Times)
Panaji, Aug 29: The Chief Secretary, Mr J P Singh today said
that along with the rest of India, Goa too was reeling under a
constant threat of terror attacks because any terror activity
here would attract international media attention on a
unprecedented scale.
http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=083010
*** Insects in cola, Goa sues PepsiCo (Yahoo! India News)
Food and Drug Authorities in Goa have filed a case as foreign
particles have been found in Pepsi drinks.
http://in.news.yahoo.com/060830/211/673n4.html
*** Kotawala says buys Sunflower resort in Goa (Reuters via
Yahoo! Asia News)
MUMBAI, Aug 28 (Reuters) - Financial services firm Kotawala
India Ltd. said on Monday it had acquired Hotel Sunflower Beach
Resort in Goa.
http://asia.news.yahoo.com/060828/3/2p377.html
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