[Goanet-News] The Times... London: police kept a name out of the media until Thursday....
From The Times March 15, 2008 I was once jailed for knifing a sex pest, Scarlett Keeling's mother admits Scarlett Keeling before she disappeared. The body of 15 year-old Scarlett Keeling was pulled from Anjuna beach last Monday Scarlett Keeeling was seen driving off with Murli Sagar on his scooter after being in the same bar on Anjuna beach Image :1 of 2 Jeremy Page in Panjim, Goa The mother of Scarlett Keeling, the schoolgirl raped and left to die on a beach in Goa, confirmed yesterday that she had spent a year in prison when she was a teenager for stabbing her employer after he allegedly tried to force himself on her 16-year-old friend. It's something that happened, and I learnt a lot from it, Fiona MacKeown, 43, told The Times. But it has no relevance to Scarlett's case. Her comments came before she was ordered to attend a juvenile police unit in Goa after a summons under the Goa Children's Act. Mrs MacKeown had previously said that she feared she would be questioned for leaving Scarlett, 15, behind while she travelled in another part of India. However, last night she said the summons was scaremongering by the police, saying: I think I am getting very close to proving how corrupt they are. Related Links * Scarlett case 'cracked' with second arrest * Goa 'murder' witness: I'm afraid of the police Yesterday police in Goa were under pressure to investigate whether a third Indian man, believed to have links to Bollywood and to a powerful local politician, was also involved in the death of the teenager from Bideford, Devon. Police say that they have almost cracked the case after arresting Placido Carvalho, a local drug dealer, and Samson D'Souza, a bartender, on suspicion of plying Scarlett with drugs and then raping her and leaving her to drown. But Mrs MacKeown and her lawyer believe that a third man, Murli Sagar, may be the key to exposing the nexus of local politicians, police and drug dealers whom they accuse of covering up the girl's rape and murder. The issue is that there are at least two bigger guys who are being protected, Mrs MacKeown said. The two they arrested just didn't pay enough in bribes. Mr Sagar was in Lui's bar on Anjuna beach in Goa when Scarlett stumbled in at around 3am on February 18, and left with her at around 5am after offering to give her a lift on his scooter, witnesses say. Mr Sagar was then seen driving off on his scooter alone, while Mr D'Souza apparently sexually assaulted Scarlett and was later seen standing nearby talking on his mobile telephone. Yet police who leaked the names of every other witness and suspect kept Mr Sagar's name out of the media until Thursday when, under pressure from reporters, they admitted that they had questioned him. Bosco George, the Goan Superintendent of Police, told The Times that police knew where Mr Sagar was and would continue to question him, although they did not regard him as a suspect at this stage. Mrs MacKeown and many locals believe that is because Mr Sagar works at Curly's bar, Anjuna's leading party venue and a hangout for local drug dealers, which also happens to be owned by Edwin Nunes, the head of the local council. Mr Sagar is believed to have been working there for a couple of years after giving up a career in Bollywood, where a late relative was a successful music director, according to Anjuna residents who know him. He's a nice guy but he's clearly very successful and it's no coincidence that only he can have the late-night parties, said one foreign resident who frequents Curly's. Goa banned playing music outside after 10pm in 2005 in a crackdown on allnight beach raves but locals say that Curly's often flouts the ban. Drugs are said to be sold openly in the bar even though locals and foreign visitors claim that police conduct regular searches elsewhere in Anjuna.Vikram Varma, Mrs MacKeown's lawyer, said that Mr Sagar should be questioned further. He could provide clues to the nexus. He's on the third or fourth level from the top, said Mr Varma. Placido and Samson are just the foot-soldiers, or the henchmen. They don't have the kind of money to pay off the police. The guys who have hushed up the matter are powerful people. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article3554310.ece
[Goanet] Goa police question mother of dead British teenager
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- The Government of Goa and the Police should not be blamed in this particular ( Rape/Murder Case) 3.00 am should be fast sleeping time in your house, accomodation or hotel room. How come @ 3.am the teenage girl came out of her house and for what purpose? . Either for drugs, sex or for food.. Why did her mother ( Fiona ) left her grown-up daughter in Goa without proper shelter,money and clothing?... What a big joke!!! A mother who is having so many children and also don't know some of her chlidren father's names??? This is to be question in London. Who knows if the mother ( Fiona ) is involved in her own daughter's murder?.. Fiona had a murder case on her in London for killing one of her lover years back and was jailed and later pardoned. Goa Government and U.K. Government must first investigate the background of Mrs.Fiona, her lovers and husbands in U.K and later file the case against the criminals and punish them. The rape/murder case in Goa has been blown up too much and the image of Goa and U.K has been portrayed very poor by the media in both countries. Precautions are always better than medicines. In this episode mother is to be blamed for negligence. A good mother will never leave there under-age teenage children alone to someone unknown person anywhere in the world. The Goans and Goa Government should not be blamed. It's a accident and a total negligence. Carmo Santos / Goa
[Goanet] Re. Scarlet murder-Bailancho Saad Press Release
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- Dear Dr.Colaco, You are absolutely correct. The word compliments would be better if substituted by commends. However, you will accept that it is not always possible to find the right word while at a computer. Semantics apart, the BS has done a great job in issuing a Press Note at all. Most organisations have maintained a studied silence ...whikle the press has had a field day with selective leaks and plants from the forensic docs, corrupt cops, opposing drug mafias and their support groups of wellwishers, politicians and social workers . and mafia-embedded journalists. Each of the local newspapers has its own agenda and way of treating the news [a heady cocktail of select 'plants' and 'leaks' embellished by quotes from the Police Press conferences and internet downloads, with or without attribution to the source] I was discussing the issue with a National journalist this afternoon. We were agreed on one point: the Truth will never be known. We will have to accept the surrogate as the available truth. However, the Bailancho Saad can spearhead a People's Movement to clean up the drug scene and get the Administration and the Police to perform their duties. Sabina Martins, all said and done , is the Co-Convenor of the Goa Bachao Abhiyan [GBA] ...and has played a tremendous role in it! The local newspapers can take up the campaign ...and boost their readership in the process. Perhaps, the Times of India can take up the campaign if the local newspapers dither. and create a niche for itself in the hearts of the residents of Goa and the tourists alike. Barkha Dutt missed that chance with the NDTV programme focussing on flogging the dead horse of Goan v/s Non-Goan. The drug dopes can shift business elsewhere. We don't need to ecstasy or Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds [LSD]. Goa is good for the high-end tourists without all that dope for the junkies who need other highs. Goa's tourism is no junkie rally. Mog asundi. Miguel Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:37:36 -0400 From: J. Colaco jc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet] Scarlet murder-Bailancho Saad Press Release Sabina Martins For Bailancho Saad [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1: Bailancho Saad COMPLIMENTS the mother of Scarlet Keeling for her fight to get justice for her daughter and raising issues which have always been downplayed and not addressed in several other cases. 2: Bailancho Saad states that the campaign against Scarlett's mother has been launched because she exposed the failure of the administration. -- jc's response: While I agree with Ms Martins wrt points 2, 4 and 1, I do not know if the word COMPLIMENT is the right choice of a word for this tragic situation. I'd like to suggest the words: commends, supports etc I have no problem with the criminal issues involved. Those who are found guilty must be dealt with according to the law of the land. There is another (civil) issue of Negligence on the part of the mother. That needs to be sorted out too - so that NO mother again,neglects the welfare of the child and then decide NOT to take responsibility for her own negligence. Let the chips fall wherever they fall ...Sabina. No need to defend the indefensible - even if they are women. jc -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
Re: [Goanet] Scarlette case a tip of the iceberg
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- Good Post Miguel, Nerlon Albuquerque, the Anjuna police official in the Keeling case and the first doctor doing the post-mortem has been suspended for alleged sloppy work on pursuing the drug-over-dose death of Scarlett. Yet why has the head of the (anti) drug division of Goa police not been held accountable for the presence of drugs all over Goa? And was inspector general of Goa, Kishan Kumar, unaware of the drug traffic in Goa? --- Two 'pigeons' have been charged for supplying a minor with drugs, etc. How about the individual(s) who supplied drugs to the two 'pigeons'? How about the bar owner(s) where the trade was done? Are these individuals not in any violations of Goa's laws? Here are some thoughts for Goanetters and Bailancho Saad to pursue: If the Goa Police and Justice system is serious about the drug problem in Goa, they should prosecute the offenders and in addition to the usual punishment, close any place - bar, hotel, restaurant, Rave party scene - for a month after a drug bust. And three such violations should call for a permanent closure of the business. A high level CBI / CID inquiry should be appointed by the Prime Minister to look into Goa's drug problem including the money laundering and financial transactions and payoffs. If the MP of North Goa is the Union Home Minister, he should resign. He is likely making the rest of India like his North Goa constituency. Very likely the extensive and endemic horse-trading of elected politicians in Goa is helped by drug-money, which probably is greasing a lot of palms. Perhaps Mr. Parrikar should be asked about all of this during his on-camera QA interview. Surely the Anjuna beach (and other sites) drug problems existed during his tenure as Chief Minister. Regards, GL - Miguel Braganza wrote: Here is one well researched and presented article on the drug underbelly Drugs: Scarlette case a tip of the iceberg by Glenn Costa Scarlette Eden Keeling's rape and murder has opened a virtual Pandora's box as the media attention, local, national and international have brought the seedy underside of the Goan tourist trade and the underlying drug trade under spotlight in sharp contrast to the usual singing praises of Goa's pristine coastline as well as its thriving nightlife. While the Tourism Minister has gone on record about the drug scene, the Inspector General of Police, Mr Kishen Kumar does not deny that drugs are freely available in the state and argues that this is why almost Rs 50 lakh of drugs have been seized this year and that is not including the latest ganja seizure at Porvorim the other day. He also agrees that the seizures are a tip of the iceberg.
[Goanet] Chess Holi Programme: Win a game and Win Rs 500/-
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- Chess Holi Programme: Win a game and Win Rs 500/- The Taleigao chess Academy in association with St. Inez Jaycees shall organize a Chess Holi programme on March 22nd at the Indoor Stadium, Campal, Panaji, from 5.00 pm onwards. National A Player and Karnataka State Champion B. Shivanand (Elo Rating 2373) will play simultaneous chess games with 30 different players. The Entry Fee for each participant is Rs 100/- while any participating player who wins stands to gain Prize money of Rs 500/-. Also, four 1st standard children from the Taleigao Chess Academy shall be playing 4 simultaneous games each against other 1st standard children. The Entry Fee for the children is Rs 50/- while for a win the participating child stands to win Prize money of Rs 200/-. Kindly submit entries to Shrikant Barve on 9326132702. Yours sincerely Jc Sandeep Heble Program co-ordinator Address 12, Vishal Building, St. Inez, Panaji-Goa Ph-9326129171 Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [Goanet] Hinduism and Henotheism
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- The exchange between Fr. Ivo and Dr. Barad shows that just as there is an unresolvable conflict between science and religion, there is an equally serious conflict between one religion and another - specifically, Christianity and Hinduism, in this case. Cheers, Santosh --- Dr. U. G. Barad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But certainly I would request you Fr. Ivo please don't take up any issues about my religion or caste because you have not read anything about our religion nor you have in-depth knowledge about my religion.
Re: [Goanet] Now, now Ravi....no hitting below the belt
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- On 16/03/2008, anand virgincar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Goanetters , Statements have been made by Digamber Kamat and other Congress politicians as well as by the Goa police trying to shift the blame on Scarlette Keelings mum for leaving her alone in Goa.. ... COME ON , RAVIif you have the slightest honour left , go on and defend it. File a libel case and sue this woman who you and your police are trying to run down by using below the belt tactics. Here is some more help from Bab Gabe Menezes on how to go about it : http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/actionnetwork/A1183394 By the way , we are assuming our home minister ( or his close family ) do not have a strong nexus with the Goan drug mafia as claimed by Fiona. regards, anand ( Dr Anand Virgincar ) RESPONSE: As mentioned by Ze Colaco, English law does not rule in India, so the link I provided is of no use. We all have sympathy with Fiona and her family on the loss of her daughter. Even though, in all this she has not been above board. Everything that transpired is the fault of someone else. She should first and foremost put up her hand and say sorry, while accepting a good deal of the blame. Today's Daily mail has an article claiming that the family receive £500 income support a week. No wonder they are in Goa Rupees 40,000 or thereabouts income a week, sure goes a long way. I wonder how she intended to continue diddling the U.K. authorities, while not actually living in the U.K. How many more of these kind of people, do we have living at the U.K. taxpayers expense, in Goa ? The article :- Scarlett's mum: The sad truth is that she was only behaving as MPs expect her to 00:37am 17th March 2008 Comments Comments Peter Mckay While 15-year-old Scarlett Keeling lies in an Indian mortuary after being raped and murdered on a Goan beach, her mother, Fiona MacKeown, 43, goes to war against local officialdom. First she accuses the police - who said Scarlett had drowned accidentally - of covering up Scarlett's murder. Two men have since been accused of the killing and detained for questioning. Now she says the police and local politicians are involved in Goa's drugs trade and this is what led to the attempted cover-up of her daughter's murder. Scroll down for more... Fiona MacKeown Cheek? Fiona MacKeown should have an inkling of an idea why she has been criticised but she is only taking her lead from both major political parties Are these the actions of a courageous, grief-stricken mother? Perhaps so, but her campaign also looks like an attempt to avoid censure for having left Scarlett in the care of a 24-year-old tour guide she hardly knew, while she travelled with the rest of her children to explore another region of India. With her hippy clothes, unsightly lip-ring and dependence on social security, Ms MacKeown personifies a parental lifestyle detested by many people on the Left and the Right. But the awkward truth is that her children don't exactly conform to those of the stereotypical feckless single parent. Instead of being feral and dysfunctional, they're described as bright, polite and confident. Deputy headmaster Mike Furber, who taught them in Devon, says: I have nothing but admiration for what [Ms MacKeown] has done with those kids. She gave them choices and, yes, it has backfired horrifically, but I think this could have backfired for any other family. Not quite right. How many mothers on benefit take eight of their nine children on six-month Indian holidays, and subsequently leave their 15-year-old daughter with strangers? To say the least, this was lazy, selfish behaviour. But neither do Ms MacKeown's children seem to be the kind of violent, anti-social monsters all single-parent households are supposed to produce: you know, knife-wielding psychopaths who kill blameless householders trying to save their cars from vandalism. I just don't know why [the Press] are attacking me when I'm in such a bad situation, says Ms MacKeown, who - given that she's 43, has had nine children by five men and lives on benefit - should have an inkling of why she's being criticised. She lives in two caravans in Devon and was able to take her clan on a six-month holiday in India - what did their schools have to say? - only by putting aside money from her £500-a-week social security payments. Wouldn't it be a blessing if other large families on benefit spent six months a year in India, or longer? After she and her brood left to explore a neighbouring province, Scarlett went
[Goanet] REPEAT telecast today -NDTV
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- In this special edition of We the people broadcast from a Goa beach location, the compere, Barkha Dutt, seems to have taken upon herself the task of facilitating a catharrsis (in the aftermath of the rape and death on the beach of a young British tourist) in a motley audience which ranged over a wide (some would say disjointed) range of topics. These included Goa's (peverted?) image, politicians, policing, parenting, drugs, tourists, insider vs outsider, local culture, dress code (esp bikins vs burkhas), land, youth, anti-Goans, governance, safety on the beach, ordinary people, corruption, etc. Besides the compere who was visibly struggling, first, physically to run on the sand with the mike from one speaker to another, and then cognitively to cope with the variety of issues involved, the stars of the program were the dead girl's mother, dubbed Fearless Fiona by the somewhat partisan crowd, and the lone government minister, Aleixo Sequeira, who provided a fairly good exanple of defending the indefensible. Besides them there were assorted tourists, male and female, Indian and foreign, journalists, residents etc etc who spiced up the proceedings. Dutt summed up by talking about entrenched complex issues on the one hand (a case of the blind people and the elephant?) and the wonderful state and its wonderful people on the other. We have to wait for someone or group to get to the heart of the matter, in a truly fundamental sense, in this unfortunate situation where Goa is under the global scanner as never before. Let's fervently hope Goa will come out ahead as soon as possible. P.S. The unfortunate spectacle of vindictiveness of the Goa government seems apparent from its move yesterday to get Fiona declared persona non grata.
[Goanet] Come on Ravi....your reputation is our reputation
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- Marshall Mendonza picked up my views through his message no 7, dated Monday, 17 March 2008 under subject mentioned above. My views picked up by Marshall: Jerry you are right. You can never know what can happen in this Congress ruled Goa. Marshall's comment to my views: Are things any different in BJP ruled Gujarat or other states or was it any different in BJP ruled Goa? My response: Marshall you should understand that Goanet is meant only to raise issues concerning or happening in Goa. As far as your views are concerned I am already on record in Goanet about BJP ruled Gujarat. Please check the archive of Goanet about my posting regarding BJP ruled Gujarat posted during recently concluded Gujarat election. And if moderators of Goanet permits me to write on any other issues prevailing in other states of India I would be happy to write. Please take the permission of Moderators for me to write so. As far as your query about BJP ruled Goa is concerned let's wait till interview of Manohar Parrikar is over were in he has to answer many questions crafted by Goanet members. Conclusively, I understood what prompted you to write above message!!! Best regards, Dr. U. G. Barad
[Goanet] Re. WE THE PEOPLE in Goa on the Scarlett Keeling's Murder
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- Dear Alfred [or should that be Alfredo?], Please re-read my email. The LIST OF PANELISTS is very obviously a cut-n-paste job [I actually pulled it out of a NDTV pressnote that was on the net, and this is obvious if one reads the opening sentence itself!]. The SPELLINGS are not mine, although they were a part of my post. Even so, where is Faleiro to Falerio is unmitigatingly deplorable ...except in your post? Please re-read and let us know. ;-) It is rightly said, Being smart is not half as important as appearing so. I hope it has made your day ...till now at least! Incidentally, that was a wonderful digression from the point I sought to make ...that Barkha's show digressed from the topic! Mog asundi. Miguel PS One can use Minguel, Mingel, Minguelito or whatever with a Braganja, Briganza, Brazanga or whatever to go with it. Not that I like it, but for want of choice. I have been called worse names on this very list! ;-) [I have consciously stopped using Braganca for self and children because it invariably becomes Braganka in an increasingly Anglicised world. May be future generations will just revert to Gauns or Gaunkar or Gaokar and forget that the Portuguese were ever in Mhapsa town of Bara Des taluk in Zilla Uttar Goy of Konkan Pradesh] Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:49:52 +0100 From: Alfred de Tavares [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet] Re. WE THE PEOPLE in Goa on the Scarlett Keeling Murder But that a veritable bastion of goanna like Miguel Bragan?a wantonly degenerate Aleixo to Alexio or others, Faleiro to Falerio is unmitigatingly deplorable. It is spelt [spelled?] correctly in the text writer Sonia Faleiro, GBA that I had pasted Not to overlook those that minguelize Miguel. Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 09:02:42 +0530 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WE,THE PEOPLE on 16 March, 2008, featured the panelists on the debate include Power Environment Minister Alexio Sequeira, Chief Secretary J P Singh, Herald Editor Ashwin Tombat, Pop Star Remo Fernandes, Socialite Bina Ramani, Author Maria Couto, writer Sonia Faleiro, GBA Convenor Dr Oscar Rebello, Journalist Sudip Chakrabothi, former SP Alex Rasquinha and restaurant owner Manish Mukhija Can anyone share a sound byte that defined what each of them said? What was the consensus view? Miguel __ -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
Re: [Goanet] Hinduism and Henotheism
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- Subject: Re: [Goanet] Hinduism and Henotheism To: Goa's The exchange between Fr. Ivo and Dr. Barad shows that just as there is an unresolvable conflict between science and religion, there is an equally serious conflict between one religion and another - specifically, Christianity and Hinduism, in this case. Cheers, Santosh From the tone of the whole thing, it seems to be more a conflict between Fr. Ivo and Dr. Barad, with each one being ultra-sensitive about his professed religion. Most Hindus and Christians could not care less about the issues, and would be happy to leave these two to fight it out :-) -- Question everything -- Karl Marx
[Goanet] Scholarship Scheme for children by Taleigoa Chess Academy
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- Press Release In the Executive Meeting of Taleigao Chess Academy Sports Club held at Dynasty Manor, Odlembhat, Taleigao Goa on March 16, 2008 at 10.00am Programme for Financial year 2008/2009 were discussed and finalised. 1. Basic Chess Course for Govt. Primary School Teachers in the month of April to be concluded with a Chess Tournament within participant teachers and issue of participation certificate. 2. Scholarship Scheme for children the age group below 12. Rs. 1000/- per month. for a year. (October to September) Funding of the Scholarship scheme is to be done through donation from Religious Institutions, Corporate Houses, well-wisher etc. as also 3% of Taleigao Chess Academies total receipts will be transferred to this Scholarship fund. President Shri Manish Kamble has donated Rs.3000/- and Treasurer Shri Ganesh Manerkar has also put in Rs.1000/- in the Scholarship fund at this very occasion. Scheme will start from Oct 1, 2008. Criteria for selection will be Child should stand in First 10 in any All Goa Chess Tournament organised by Taleigao Chess Academy. Application will be accepted from the deserving child upto first Saturday of October. On the basis of Fund in hand on Sep 30 every year Executive Committee Members and Special Invitee members will select the children on first Sunday of October every year. 3. It has also been decided not to organise any Age Group Selection Chess Tournament for Goa State Chess Association unless a written request comes from them to hold such tournament at least two months in advance. 4. Other projects in association with NGOs to be organised throughout the year were also discussed in the meeting. 5. CEO of Taleigao Chess Academy Shrikant Barve speech on Vision of TCA for Goa for next five years to be delivered on Holichess on March 22, 2008 at SAG Campal was finalised. 6. It was also been decided to invite Presidents of nearby chess activity centres/clubs, SAG Chess coach at Campal, Panaji for executive committee meeting. Invitees to be paid Rs.100/- as honorarium. All the Executive members were present for the meeting. President (Manish Kamble) Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
[Goanet] Mothers and monsters (Madeleine Bunting... in The Guardian)
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- Dears, At last there is a voice of sanity in the British Press. Please go to the link below for the full text. The local media has been more restrained [in the criticsm of Scarlett's mother, Fiona] in Goa-India all this while... but the British media [via the internet] seem to have emboldened the Home Minister and the Goa Police to recommend denial of tourist visas to Brits on the dole. May they celebrate a White Christmas in UK next winter ...on the Royal British dole! The English will soon realise the wisdom of their own saying, Curses come home to roost. Mog asundi. Miguel http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/mar/14/pressandpublishing.india Mothers and monsters * Madeleine Bunting * The Guardian, * March 14 2008. This article appeared in the Guardian on Friday March 14 2008 on p39 of the Comment debate section. It was last updated at 00:17 on March 14, 2008. In the media's hands, Fiona MacKeown has become a scapegoat for the middle classes Compassion is not a response the media seem able to sustain. That small window that affords a degree of respect for the grief of the bereaved seems to shrink ever more, but even so the treatment of Fiona MacKeown, the mother of the 15-year-old murdered on a Goa beach, has plumbed new depths of harsh judgmentalism. While MacKeown struggles to get the police to take on the case of her daughter's killing, she has a second child lying in hospital in the UK with a broken neck from a car accident that happened shortly before her daughter's death. This goes well beyond the platitude of a mother's worst nightmare. Yet even such circumstances have not inhibited the torrent of criticism and contempt that has poured down on this woman's head. Open season has been declared on every part of her family life, her parenting style and even her appearance. She is blamed for abandoning her daughter in a resort while continuing her travels; accused of a recklessly indulgent style of parenting; and criticised for her mode of grieving. Almost every article refers to her hair - it is lank, a curtain and, most unforgivably, grey. Most commentators offer a perfunctory sorry before they plunge in the knife. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Courtesy of: -- Frederick 'FN' Noronha | Ym/Gmailtalk: fredericknoronha http://fn.goa-india.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Independent Journalist | +91(832)2409490 Cell 9970157402 -- - DELETE button is history. Unlimited mail storage is just a click away.
[Goanet] The Scarlette murder
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- Yes, I care for Scarlette and deplore the way her life ended . I also recognise the grit of the teenager's mother , Ms Mackeown. In saying that , life is about choices and responsibilities . And choices , good or bad, lead to consequences. I do not think it would be unfair to say that we are in a sense the makers of our own destiny.It would be almost foolish ignorance to say that Ms Mackeown , who was on a 6 month visa , was not aware of the drug scene on the goan beaches. This is not something new and was existent even many years ago. And Shouldn't Scarlette have been studying out there in England . She chose to befriend a local, she chose to take drugs and alcohol , she chose to lead a risk-borne lifestyle . That is not to deny the fact that there may be many nefarious local, and possibly national or even international links to the drug nexus in Goa. But excuse-me , why is this case drawing so much publicity? I really want to know what we are doing to improve the plight of the millions below poverty line who earn less than half a pound a day although they seem to be making reasonable choices in their life. We seem to have forgotten the children on the beaches who were hounded by pedophiles. The issues are many. The tragedy , though not a first , has once again drawn our focus to society's changing attitudes, and changing priorities. I hear that the government is thinking of not extending her visa further. Ms Mackeown will have one less choice to make. Dr Samir Heble New Plymouth, New Zealand
Re: [Goanet] Hinduism and Henotheism
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- Dear Dr.U.G.Barad, I thank you for advising me to avoid discussing issues about Hinduism. You say that I wrote after quite some time, as I only stated it, but the reason was that you were engrossed in them, as you are till today. But you wrote strangely: for he was ENGROSSED with recent development in Goa!. You should know that there will be issues in every religion. About Hinduism, as I indicated once, there are difficulties to define Hinduism itself. As you rightly say, it is so vast that it will take years to grasp and understand fully, precisely because there are different trends which you yourself will not know. We can always speak about religions from the comparative study. I am not specialized in Hinduism, but it does not mean that we cannot discuss it at all. There are also Christian authors who have gone deep into the study of Hindu religion (religious Hinduism) and Hindu philosophy (Indology) and know better than you do. Though I say you possess mastery in Christianity I find it amusing to see your own community rubbishes your philosophy with exchange of responses. **People who have not studied Christian Theology may have problems on some issues, as you may have read. It does not mean that your (my) own community rubbishes your (mine) philosophy (?) with exchange of responses. Besides, there can be different opinions about the way people live. Discussions about the Hindu way of life would be endless... Fr. Ivo, with due respect to you and your sincerity I would only request you to first try to set your house in order which I believe is your prime responsibility! ***I do not know what you mean. I have not tried to set in order but only to answer questions on specific issues, which came up or have been addressed to me. I am not forcing you to discuss them. Some issues of casteism came up. There were different responses. One can always respond in a pluralistic society... Regards. Fr.Ivo
[Goanet] Goanet] Come on Ravi....your reputation is our reputation
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- Dear Dr. Barad, I am surprised at your accusation OF Congress led government. So what you are implying is that if BJP was ruling this would not have happened? During BJP reign, all the beaches of Goa were free of Drugs? There were no foreign gangs on the beaches? Well foreign gangs may be a new concept for Goa, but than Drugs have been available since MGP times, and that was the time when Hippies landed in Goa, found Goa to be great and promoted it to their community. Well hippies still do come, but than for us, any white skin is a hippy. #61514; If you feel that the drug menace is because Congress is ruling Goa, than I am sure during the BJP reign, they must have banished all such vermin out of Goa, and they have come back now as Congress rules Goa. So if BJP could clean the beaches of Goa and make them free for all families like in early 60s and 70s than why come people dont vote them for Power? If BJP is such a great party, who looks for the betterment of Goa, than why cant Goans in general look at it? Its a great mystery, wish you could tell me why. Cheers Jerry Fernandes Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:53:08 +0530 From: Dr. U. G. Barad [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jerry you are right. You can never know what can happen in this Congress ruled Goa. Best regards, Dr. U. G. Barad Jerry Fernandes in his message no. 4, dated 16 Mar 2008, under subject titled: Come on Raviyour reputation is our reputation, writes: Dear Doctor Anand. It seems that Scarlett's mom came to know more of the politicians in Goa within six months, than all Goans who have been voting for these ministers all these years. Isnt it strange? Or has she been planning to be a citizen of our wonderful Goa, and than sit for elections? I wonder what her plans are. Cheers. Jerry Fernandes
[Goanet] Come on Ravi....your reputation is our reputation ...or is it?
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 20:21:36 +0530 (IST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Come on Raviyour reputation is our reputation Dr Barad wrote: Jerry you are right. You can never know what can happen in this Congress ruled Goa. Comment: Are things any different in BJP ruled Gujarat or other states or was it any different in BJP ruled Goa?Marshall Mendonza .. My take: Would anyone on Goanet happen to know the name of the former Agriculture Minister and still the incumbent MLA of Anjuna [Siolim Assembly Constituency], the party [the POLITICAL PARTY, not the frequent RAVE parties in his constituency] to which he belongs for the past 8 years or so ... and his claim to fame and wealth? Interestingly, Scarlett Keeling is reported to have first slept with Julio Lobo from Siolim,with whom she co-habited in guardian-protege relationship where the hedge ate the crop. Both the villages, Anjuna and Siolim, are in the same Assembly constituency ...as is the entire road connecting the two. In spite of it being a crime under the GOA CHILDREN'S ACT section 8 subsection 2 [with mandatory fine of Rs.1,00,000, as the Panaji Bench of the Bombay High Court has just recently confirmed in the case of a Govt. School teacher from Valpoi, besides jail term] and the INDIAN PENAL CODE to have penetrative sex AND in spite of the second autopsy report indicating a torn hymen [where else?] AND in spite of the personal diary of Scarlett stating this being in the possesion of the Goa Police Siolkar Julio is NOT arrested. It is another matter, that the Congress CM, Digamber Kamat, was a Power Minister when Dayanand Madrekar was the Agriculture Minister and Ravi Naik was Deputy CM in Manohar Parrikar's BJP-majority cabinet. It is another matter that Digamber Kamat, Dayanand Mandrekar and Ravi Naik were in the BJP at the same time in this millenium and century. It is another matter that the current Congress Home Minsiter Ravi Naik was once the President of the MGP to which Dayanand Mandrekar [as also Dayanand Narvekar, the current Finance Minister] belonged AND Ravi was later the President of the BJP to which Dayanand Mandrekar also belonged at that point of time. It is another matter that the two Dayas and their Sun [Ravi] ALL belong to the PLURALISTIC society called Bahujan Samaj. It is another thing that, like telephone communications, Goa is politically best covered by another BSNL ...Bhandari Samaj Network Limited ... limited only by intelligence that is borrowed fron the TWO PERCENT Private Participation. CONGRESS? Bah ! Congress is like Hinduism or Catholicism ...a way of life ...where Ravana can be a god or a demon, where Ram Lila can lead to violent protests, where one can be a Lingayat or Vaishnavite, where Sita can be a wife or sister, where one does not know whether Mary was god or a woman ... and no one can tell me yet with any degree of certainty whether Milagris Saibinn of Mapusa is Lairaiee's sister, Tulzai, or Jesus's mother, Mary. Each one worships her in his or her own perspective. The best description for the so-called Congressman or BJP cadre or MGP supporter is found in the modern cricket dictionary. It is called a NO BALL .. the seventh in an 'OVER' of SIX. The plural form is equally applicable if one studies the response of the people in Goa to the blatant drug trafficking here. The politicians and the police are a reflection of the milieu or society in which they live. Which fool will go looking for a stud or, for that matter, a virgin in a Hijda wadi? What exactly is Dr.Barad's diagnosis ...and prognosis? We are all hit for a SIX. It is time to reconnect. For that we have to find our Vas deferens first. [Consult a medical or anatomical dictionary ...or even a veterinary dictionary. Viva la deferens! ;-) ]. The Bailancho Saad can help. STOP THAT DOPE. We must. Mog asundi. Miguel -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
[Goanet] The Times... London: police kept a name out of the media until Thursday....
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- From The Times March 15, 2008 I was once jailed for knifing a sex pest, Scarlett Keeling's mother admits Scarlett Keeling before she disappeared. The body of 15 year-old Scarlett Keeling was pulled from Anjuna beach last Monday Scarlett Keeeling was seen driving off with Murli Sagar on his scooter after being in the same bar on Anjuna beach Image :1 of 2 Jeremy Page in Panjim, Goa The mother of Scarlett Keeling, the schoolgirl raped and left to die on a beach in Goa, confirmed yesterday that she had spent a year in prison when she was a teenager for stabbing her employer after he allegedly tried to force himself on her 16-year-old friend. It's something that happened, and I learnt a lot from it, Fiona MacKeown, 43, told The Times. But it has no relevance to Scarlett's case. Her comments came before she was ordered to attend a juvenile police unit in Goa after a summons under the Goa Children's Act. Mrs MacKeown had previously said that she feared she would be questioned for leaving Scarlett, 15, behind while she travelled in another part of India. However, last night she said the summons was scaremongering by the police, saying: I think I am getting very close to proving how corrupt they are. Related Links * Scarlett case 'cracked' with second arrest * Goa 'murder' witness: I'm afraid of the police Yesterday police in Goa were under pressure to investigate whether a third Indian man, believed to have links to Bollywood and to a powerful local politician, was also involved in the death of the teenager from Bideford, Devon. Police say that they have almost cracked the case after arresting Placido Carvalho, a local drug dealer, and Samson D'Souza, a bartender, on suspicion of plying Scarlett with drugs and then raping her and leaving her to drown. But Mrs MacKeown and her lawyer believe that a third man, Murli Sagar, may be the key to exposing the nexus of local politicians, police and drug dealers whom they accuse of covering up the girl's rape and murder. The issue is that there are at least two bigger guys who are being protected, Mrs MacKeown said. The two they arrested just didn't pay enough in bribes. Mr Sagar was in Lui's bar on Anjuna beach in Goa when Scarlett stumbled in at around 3am on February 18, and left with her at around 5am after offering to give her a lift on his scooter, witnesses say. Mr Sagar was then seen driving off on his scooter alone, while Mr D'Souza apparently sexually assaulted Scarlett and was later seen standing nearby talking on his mobile telephone. Yet police who leaked the names of every other witness and suspect kept Mr Sagar's name out of the media until Thursday when, under pressure from reporters, they admitted that they had questioned him. Bosco George, the Goan Superintendent of Police, told The Times that police knew where Mr Sagar was and would continue to question him, although they did not regard him as a suspect at this stage. Mrs MacKeown and many locals believe that is because Mr Sagar works at Curly's bar, Anjuna's leading party venue and a hangout for local drug dealers, which also happens to be owned by Edwin Nunes, the head of the local council. Mr Sagar is believed to have been working there for a couple of years after giving up a career in Bollywood, where a late relative was a successful music director, according to Anjuna residents who know him. He's a nice guy but he's clearly very successful and it's no coincidence that only he can have the late-night parties, said one foreign resident who frequents Curly's. Goa banned playing music outside after 10pm in 2005 in a crackdown on allnight beach raves but locals say that Curly's often flouts the ban. Drugs are said to be sold openly in the bar even though locals and foreign visitors claim that police conduct regular searches elsewhere in Anjuna.Vikram Varma, Mrs MacKeown's lawyer, said that Mr Sagar should be questioned further. He could provide clues to the nexus. He's on the third or fourth level from the top, said Mr Varma. Placido and Samson are just the foot-soldiers, or the henchmen. They don't have the kind of money to pay off the police. The guys who have hushed up the matter are powerful people. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article3554310.ece
Re: [Goanet] Hinduism and Henotheism
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- From: Santosh Helekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] The exchange between Fr. Ivo and Dr. Barad shows that just as there is an unresolvable conflict between science and religion, *In spite of all my efforts to show that there is no conflict whatsoever between Science and Religion (my emphasis was on Bible and Christian Theology), it is sad to hear Dr.Santosh again saying the contrary... there is an equally serious conflict between one religion and another - specifically, Christianity and Hinduism, in this case. *Certainly there are differences between Christianity and Hinduism, as a comparative study of religions shows, but I dealt with the problem of salvation: it is God who saves the people. Regards. Fr.Ivo
[Goanet] Unfortunate fallout from the Scarlette death.
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- Dear Editor, The reactions to the unfortunate death of the British teenage tourist Scarlet Keeling by the Ministers of the Goa Government are very disheartening and unfortunate.These Ministers are behaving like street fighters trying to defend their own actions (or inactions) by pointing the finger at Fiona Mackeown, the mother of the deceased child. There is no denying the fact that Fiona Mackeown acted irresponsibly by leaving her daughter in the care of dubious local Goans, who turned out to be unreliable; but this in no way absolves the Government and its law enforcing machinery of the shabby response to the death. Alexio Sequeira seeks to shift the blame entirely to Fiona Mackeown. This is not only irrational, but it is also a betrayal of the expectations of the citizens that the Police should have been more alert both before and after the event. Our Minister for Home, Ravi Naik, likewise claims that Scarlette would not have died in the way she did had her mother been more responsible. Again, even if this were true, it does not absolve the Government of its own irresponsibility. Ravi Naik publicly acknowledges that Goa is a transit point and even a safe haven for drug trafficking. It is not enough to pass the buck to the Central Government for inadequate monitoring of the drug trade into and out of Goa. Does the local Government not have any role to play to ensure the safety of its own citizens as well as the tourists who are lured to our shores? It is high time that our Ministers grow up and stop behaving like immature children who indulge in mutual recriminations when a crime is committed. It is time for an impartial (judicial?) enquiry into the nexus between the drug traffickers, the local police and even our politicians in this horrible cancer which has enveloped the beautiful state of Goa. Yours truly, Averthanus L. D'Souza, D-13, La Marvel Colony, Dona Paula, Goa 403 004. Tel: 2453628.
[Goanet] NDTV's We the People shoot in Anjuna.
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- Strange comments from people on GoaNet who saw snippets of the show or just heard about it. I was there, having been invited to attend, though not one of the wired with a microphone VIPs. Better sense prevailed for I chose not to speak but just listen to the tamasha. I did not take a census of who was a Catholic and who was a Hindu, but was introduced before the event, to quite a few Goan Hindus, who like me, chose not to speak. My impression was that the crowd was a cross-section of Goans with a significant number of tourists. Barkha Dutt said that she had invited several dignitaries from the Government including Digambar Kamat and Ravi Naik, but they declined. What appeared on TV was obviously a heavily edited version of what I heard and saw. I was favorably impressed with Barkha Dutt and the way she conducted the show and tried to keep the discussion on topic. My overall impression was that there was strong criticism from most of the crowd, both Goans and Tourists, of the Goa Police and the alleged nexus between the Police and drug dealers. A British woman who says she is a policewoman in Britain, alleged that every day on the beach as she lay on her tanning bed, she was apalled to see Police hassling the hawkers on the beach and soliciting bribes. If this is true and as blatant as it was made out to be, I hope the powers that be, take note. There was strong criticism of Scarlett's mother for leaving her 15 year old with people who she had just met a couple of months earlier. Her defense was that she was naive. The only Minister in attendance held his own and defended the Goa Government's handling of the case, though there were glitches in the investigation. He said we had to allow time for the investigation to be completed. Fair enough, we dont need a lynch mob, nor do we need a long drawn out investigation that goes on ad nauseum till memories fade. I am not condoning what our Goa Police did or did not do. My stomach was in knots to think about all the publicity in this case, because the victim was white, while murders of young Goan girls take place all the time and the story is soon relegated to the archives. Is there a different level of justice in Goa with the old colonial mentality based on a person's skin colour ? Overall, it was a good discussion with some torrid arguments and name callings which at ttimes I felt came very close to people exchanging blows, when they were physically restrained. Been there, seen and heard it. This is an eyewitness report. - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
[Goanet] cultural imperialism
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- Philip Hensher: The reckless hedonism that shames Britons abroad I once saw a woman walking the streets of the medieval bazaar in Cairo in a bikini Print Email Search Go Independent.co.uk Web Bookmark Share Digg It del.icio.us Facebook Stumbleupon What are these? Change font size: A A A Tuesday, 18 March 2008 If, as Clausewitz said, war is the continuation of politics by other means, there is not much doubt what tourism is the continuation of. The age of imperialism may have ended decades ago, with the withdrawal of European forces from Asian and African countries and the granting of independence. No sooner had that occurred, however, than the tourists descended like a plague of locusts, all in search of an authentic experience: many ripping up and insulting the host cultures in the name of that bogus authenticity. The Scarlett Keeling murder case has transfixed India's large and busy media with a glimpse of a way of life which few Indians can quite believe. A mother with nine children from four – or was it five – fathers. The children, whose schooling seems decidedly patchy, are taken to live on a beach in Goa for months on end in the name of some kind of nebulous larger education. One of them, merely 15, is left to look after herself while the rest take off to Karnataka. On her own, she takes drugs, drinks a good deal of vodka, has sex with men she has just met – none of which seems to be unusual to her – and is quite quickly murdered. Rarely can the expression it will all end in tears be so grimly literal, and I don't particularly want to add to the terrible burden of grief and guilt which Scarlett's mother, Fiona MacKeown, must have to shoulder from now on. There are thousands of English teenagers exactly like Scarlett Keeling and not much about her life is unusual, apart from its grisly end. I dare say she was nice-natured and well-mannered; she drank and took drugs recklessly, as many teenagers do; she probably had the air of a streetwise girl, able to cope with situations, and only on reading her diary does it become apparent that she was virtually illiterate, extremely ignorant and as naïve as 15-year-olds have always been. We all know teenagers exactly like that. I very much doubt, however, whether Indians do. Even now, a family resembling Ms MacKeown's is impossible to envisage in an Indian context; no Indian mother, no Indian child would ever behave as either of them seem to have. What on earth persuaded them, and the two million Europeans who go to Goa every year to dance and drink and, often, take drugs, that this largely Roman Catholic enclave of India is the right place to indulge in their reckless hedonism? What on earth made them think that a family so brutally ignorant and illiterate would add anything to that culture of education and dogged self-improvement? What on earth persuaded them that to holiday in such style could be regarded as authentic, rather than cultural imperialism of the most brutal variety? Very few Europeans, on holiday in hot parts of the world, seem to consider that they are anywhere in particular; a place with a history and a culture and a view of public propriety. It is quite incredible to see how Europeans dress and behave once off the plane, and it is not surprising at all that their hosts take their behaviour as a direct insult. In much of respectable Indian society, you would not light a cigarette in front of an older person. The idea of kissing in public or holding hands seems not far from inconceivable outside the most sophisticated urban circles. I once saw a notice in a Bombay nightclub with the lovely imprecation, No hanky-panky. Goa is an extreme case, but every society which has been brutally colonised by European holidaymakers has had to bite the bullet and overlook what must seem like direct insults. I once saw a woman walking the streets of the medieval bazaar in Cairo in a bikini, which must have taken quite a high degree of ignorance or sheer nerve. In our own culture, we have learnt that people can determine their own boundaries and take their own moral decisions. For instance, we have effectively taken the view that 15-year-olds are going to get drunk and take drugs and have sex, and their parents don't have a lot of control, realistically, over any of that. Nevertheless, that doesn't mean, we think, that they are bad people or that they cannot say no to a sexual invitation if they don't feel like it at that moment. Most of the rest of the world hasn't quite grasped that. When Indians see or read about Europeans living for six months in Goa exactly as they live in
[Goanet] CONFERENCE ON INDIAN EXPATRIATES IN THE GULF COUNTRIES - March 29, 2008
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- www.goa-world.com http://www.goa-world.com Gulf-Goans e-Newsletter http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/gulf-goans/ (since 1994) CONFERENCE ON INDIAN EXPATRIATES IN THE GULF COUNTRIES March 29, 2008 at 3:00 pm at Hotel Mandovi, Convention Hall - Panaji-Goa. The Department of NRI Affairs will hold a Conference on Indian expatriates in theGulf countries on March 29 at 3 p.m. at Hotel Mandovi, Panaji. Union Minister for Overseas Indian Affairs, Shri Vayalar Ravi will inaugurate the Conference. Chief Minister of Goa, Shri Digambar Kamat will be the Chief Guest and Chief Secretary, Shri J. P. Singh will be the Guest of Honour. Commissioner for NRI Affairs, Shri Eduardo Faleirowill preside over the Conference. On this occasion, Community Service Leadership Awards will be presented to some leaders of the Goan community in the Gulf countries. The Handbook for NRGs, containing information useful to our emigrants and facilities available to them will be released at the Conference. Action Taken Reports on memoranda submitted to the NRI Commissioner during his recent visit to the Gulf countries will also be circulated at the Conference. = Programme 1500 hrs : Arrival of the dignitaries. 1505 hrs : Invocation. 1515 hrs : Lighting of Lamp. 1520 hrs : Welcome Address by Shri. K. S. Singh, Secretary (NRI Affairs) Goa. 1525 hrs : Address by Shri J.P. Singh, Chief Secretary, Goa. 1530 hrs : Introductory Remarks by Shri Eduardo Faleiro, Commissioner for NRI Affairs. 1540hrs : Address by Shri Digambar Kamat, Chief Minister of Goa. 1550 to 1610 hrs T E A - B R E A K 1615 hrs : Keynote Address by Shri Vayalar Ravi, Union Minister of Overseas Indian Affairs. Introduction of recipients of Community Service Leadership Award by VAdm John C De Silva, Chairman, Overseas Employment Agency of Goa. Presentation of Community Service Leadership Awards. 1645 hrs : Release of Handbook for Non-Resident Goans (NRGs) 1650 hrs : Release of Action Taken Report on Memoranda submitted to Commissioner for NRI Affairs during his visit to the Gulf Countries. 1655 hrs : Vote of thanks by Shri U.D. Kamat, Director for NRI Affairs 1700 hrs : National Anthem. Commissioner for NRI Affairs will preside R.S.V.P. Tel:0832-2419515/516 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax:0832-2419851 = Attendance to the Conference will by invitations only , if you would like to attend - please send in your requests to us before the 20th of March 2008 - giving us your full name and address in Goa- to enable the NRI GOA- Dept to despatch the invitations to you Rene Barreto Overall Coordinator , WORLD ALLIANCE of GOAN ASSOCIATIONS WORLD GOA DAY -[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ http://www.goa-world.com http://www.live365.com/stations/61664 Live Konkani Music http://www.youtube.com/uly334 Konkani Video's Online http://www.mahableshwar.com/ http://www.goa-world.com/expressions/ Goa's Pride - http://www.goa-world.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuCMjzYA3_U Gulf-Goans e-Newsletter (Since 1994) archived at http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/gulf-goans/ Moderated by Gaspar Almeida presented by Ulysses Menezes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-6J1ObYUUg - SOBIT AMCHEM GOEM ! - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
[Goanet] Easter - early once in a life time
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- -- Forwarded message -- From: Shamira D'souza Easter 2008 A once in a lifetime experience! Easter is always the 1st Sunday after the 1st full moon after the Spring Equinox (which is March 20). This dating of Easter is based on the lunar calendar that Hebrew people used to identify passover, which is why it moves around on our Roman calendar. Here's the interesting info. This year is the earliest Easter any of us will ever see the rest of our lives! And only the most elderly of our population have ever seen it this early (95 years old or above!). And none of us have ever, or will ever, see it a day earlier! Here's the facts: 1) The next time Easter will be this early (March 23) will be the year 2228 (220 years from now). The last time it was this early was 1913 (so if you're 95 or older, you are the only ones that were around for that!). 2) The next time it will be a day earlier, March 22, will be in the year 2285 (27 7 years from now). The last time it was on March 22 was 1818. So, no one alive today has or will ever see it any earlier than this year! -- It's about getting married. Click here! *Try it!*http://ss1.richmedia.in/recurl.asp?pid=201
[Goanet] goa related sports articles
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- Interview: Malawi And Ex-India Coach Stephen Constantine After plying his trade in over four continents in the last decade or so, Stephen Constantine is in charge of the Malawi national team. Having a track record of overturning the fortunes of all the teams he has coached, the Englishman is hopeful of positive results with the African nation. * »Comments * Print This Story * Send To A Friend * Contact Us Interview: Malawi And Ex-India Coach Stephen Constantine galleria zoom * * * So how has your Malawi sojourn been so far? It has been a very difficult time I must say, there are a great many problems here on and off the pitch. The players are great and I love working with them. They are keen to improve and remind me a lot of the players in India. Your team tsted success in its last game against Swaziland. How did it feel to win after a string of recent losses? Yes it was a good win for us after a run of losses. However, looking back at who we played we lost to four teams that had qualified for the African Cup of Nations; to South Africa on penalties and Senegal, Morocco and Namibia by the odd goal, so the defeats came against top quality opposition. It would be comparable to India losing to Japan, Iran, South Korea and China by a single goal. Of course I hate losing against anyone but some times we have to look at the opposition and improve on those performances and try and turn them into draws then wins. You have a friendly coming up against Rwanda. How are preparations going? We will play Namibia on March 26 , and all games are important , we start preparations on Monday. Do you think football in Malawi is on the rise? How is the football culture of the nation? The people here are fantastic and really love football, the passion of the fans is something special. No I dont think it is on the rise, there are huge problems all across the board, the players lack good facilities and proper coaching. They also dont get enough international exposure; the administration is also a major concern and a great deal needs to be done if Malawi is going to improve. Is talent in Malawi similar to other African Nations like Senegal, Nigeria, etc? There is definitely talent in Malawi but unlike the countries you mentioned, there is no real youth development in Malawi so naturally you're not going to produce the number of players as if had a youth structure. So again no Malawi is not able to compete with those teams just yet. You were the national coach of India for a few years. What do you think of the just concluded I-League? Well it's great that India has at last taken football seriously and they can only improve, there still needs to be a lot of work done especially in youth development. You will see India become bigger and better as years go by. The first step is always a difficult one and that step has been taken. What does India lack in terms of the Asian setting? Well we have started late so naturally we are behind in many areas, if you look at the Japanese, the Koreans, the Chinese, Iran, Saudi and these countries, they have all had pro leagues for sometime as well as youth development schemes. The lack of media attention is or was a key factor in non-development and the sponsorship was not there. This started to change in my time there and it is getting better coverage with more companys looking to football to raise there profile. Who were the few players who excelled under your reign? Well most of them are still there,, Climax Lawrence, Mahesh Gawali, Samir Nike, Tomba Singh, Abhishek Yadav, of course Baiching Bhutia so we had a good crop of very determined players. This issue has long being haunting Indian football - the number of foreign players to be included in a side. Many believe that by having a number of foreign players harms the chances of the Indian ones. Another school of thought suggests that by playing a lot of foreign strikers in the league ensures good defenders... I had asked for all clubs to have not more then three foreigners but had proposed the idea that for 3-5 years we have no foreign players as the we do not have enough depth or the numbers for the national coach to pick from. This was a problem when I was there and still is. I counted at one point while I was there that out of the 12 teams in the league that there were maybe 24 foreign strikers in the league, and I had maybe four Indian forwards to choose from. It is common all over the world that teams want to bring in a striker. I know teams
[Goanet] Re. We the People the Sorry behavior of our representatives
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- After watching the recent debate on NDTV re. the Scarlette murder case the recent comments of our infamous politicians (Ravi Naik, Digambar Kamat Aleixo Sequeira) one is left speechless by the insensitivity, ego, bluster lack of any sense of PR of these thugs who represent us and are ruining the fair name of Goa. Any sane person in this world ( indeed the eyes of the world are on us right now) will see through the laughable cover-up attempts blatant diversionary tactics being adopted by our shameless, egoistic representatives to distract attention from the larger issues at hand. In the entire debate on NDTV; which was poor by Barkha's standards seemed more of a publicity gimmick for the channel than a serious debate; the only person who came through with a sense of equity, level-headedness dignity was our indefatigable Remo. To quote from a recent article in TOI attributed to Remo I feel that for us to criticise or even mention Fiona's (Scarlette's mother's) lapses, at this stage of her horror and bereavement, is the most cruel and insensitive thing we, as the host country, could do. Once we have caught and punished our culprits, which include the police officers and politicians who were trying to protect the criminals, then and only then, may we even begin to presume to sit on a high chair, judging her mothering. Until then, we should be kneeling at her feet, begging her for forgiveness. This is hitting the nail on the head; in the short-term *Own Up Clean Up the Mess* and in the long term *Clean the System* which allows this criminalization of Goa. The sad part is that, going by the extremely blase behavior of our politicians it appears that they are so supremely confident in their vote-banks and perversion of democracy that they feel they can get away with the most arrogant and downright stupid behavior. Meanwhile Goa continues to die a slow death; rather macabrely not unlike poor Scarlette did...
[Goanet] Re. Scarlet murder-Bailancho Saad Press Release
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- The good Miguel Braganza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 1: You are absolutely correct. The word compliments would be better if substituted by commends. However, you will accept that it is not always possible to find the right word while at a computer. 2: Semantics apart, the BS has done a great job in issuing a Press Note at all. 3: However, the Bailancho Saad can spearhead a People's Movement to clean up the drug scene and get the Administration and the Police to perform their duties. == jc's response: You are absolutely right about the difficulty in finding words when one sits in front of the computer. However, that excuse is satisfactory only when used by individuals writing personal mail. I hope Bailancho Saad does not put out an organisational response by having one person merely sitting in front of the computer. I submit too that every Press Note should be written after much discussion which takes into account both sides (or more) of any given situation. It should not be left only to Bailancho Saad to spearhead a People's Movement. Are the people outraged enough?. And what really is the deal with the alleged Goa Press? Have they done enough? I know that during BJP regime, they were too scared to open their mouths for fear of being Salazarised or Tehelkised. What is the problem now? sincerely jc http://www.colaco.net/1/EtheRaveRant.htm - an article from 2005 !
Re: [Goanet] more on selling Goa
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- re this point from me: As a Catholic Goan who has experienced the MGP attempt to ethnically cleanse Goa of Catholics, etc,etc,---. Dr. Anesimo Fernandes (DAF) asked some questions, my responses are as follows(JC): DAF1: Is migration by Catholics for greener pastures called ETHNIC CLEANSING? JC1: No. == DAF2: What was the population of Catholics when Bandodkar died? JC2: I do not know about your knowledge of statistics or research - but - I would not use the total numbers of any one population (in isolation) to make a statement. == DAF3: what is the population of Catholics now after 25 odd years of Congress rule? JC3: please see above answer or Statistics at Square One by Swinscow == DAF4: What is the population of Muslims,specially in salcette now? JC4: Irrelevant to my post. However, important to note that when one ethnically cleanses a place, a vacuum develops. A third party will fill that vacuum. That is what bit the MGP in the butt. == DAF5: Is Goan Catholicism so weak that one VCD can finish it off? JC5: Please do not 'doctor' my words. I noted 'the serious attempt by the BJP to destroy Catholicism via the evil VideoCD.' == DAF6: Indira Gandhi was the one who?started criminalisation of Politics.She tried to?destroy every?institution in the country.How can congressmen afford to pay Rs 1000-2000 for every vote? JC6: As I made no reference to Indira, I will not make a gratuitous comment. == DAF7: Daughter in law is?carrying on her?Mother in Laws legacy so the Gandhi Dynasty can rule for ever!? JC7: Please expand on How she is doing that == DAF8: As far as the sale of the properties and the highest bidder is concerned, there is a queue of Delhiwallas waiting and they have offshore accounts in Bahamas as well! JC8: As a trial, please TRY opening an account in the Bahamas without scrutiny and that too from the US == DAF9: cheers JC9: and the very same to you == DAF10: Dr. Anesimo Fernandes JC10: Jose Colaco, Matric Fail == sincerely jc
[Goanet] Anjuna: Hippie paradise lost (Soutik Biswas, BBC)
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- Anjuna: Hippie paradise lost By Soutik Biswas BBC News, Anjuna, Goa Anjuna's beaches are most popular with foreigners Enlarge Image A sense of unease can be felt on India's most famous beach village after news washed up that a teenage British girl was raped and left to die in the sea last month. Two local men have been arrested in connection with Scarlett Keeling's death in Anjuna in Goa. Anjuna, famous for its grubby shacks, crescent-shaped beaches, crowded flea markets, drug-fuelled parties and ayurveda spas is in the news again - for all the wrong reasons. Turnout at the once-a-week 3,000-shop, 38-year-old flea market selling anything from tribal jewellery to thongs has been thin. Shacks selling food and alcohol have fewer guests and revellers. Even the live bands with names like Kundalini Airport and Bindoo Babas have been turning down the volume when night falls. 'Mind altering qualities' Scarlett's killing has affected tourism here, for sure. Suddenly things are very quiet, says 61-year-old Manohar Singh, who was born in India, brought up in Zanzibar and holds a British passport. Anjuna was discovered by hippie travellers in the 1960s, a time when there was much interest in the mind-altering qualities of India, according to Arun Saldhana, who teaches geography at the University of Minnesota and has written a book on the place. It was defined by its psychedelic culture and family-run guest houses, a freak and backpackers hangout, rather than the [many] charter tourist hangouts [of Goa], he says. Manohar Singh Suddenly things are very quiet in Anjuna Manohar Singh The 13-sq km beach village hemmed in by lush hills is where, according to another old-timer, foreign tourists went to escape India. Resting in a village in Anjuna during a visit in the mid-1960s, Graham Greene found it possible to forget the poverty of Bombay (now called Mumbai), 400 miles away, the mutilated beggars, the lepers... Anjuna's palm-lined beaches gave birth to a homegrown electronic dance music, called the Goa trance, before house and techno music grew roots in the early 1990's. Distortions The place was seen by many as a secluded, whites-only haven for hippies, who according to Arun Saldhana, could freely indulge in drugs, nude sun bathing and all night full moon parties. The early 1980s were possibly the high point in the beach's chequered history - hippies, punks, artists, Rastafarians, devotees of new-age gurus all hung out here, swapping drugs, music and sexual partners. The Anjuna subculture saw tourists bending rules and bribing local officials. Beach shack owner Francis Fernandes remembers the hippies taking over parts of the beaches and putting up 'Indians are not allowed' signs to keep away the locals. Anjuna beach The beach was discovered by hippies in the sixties Once some foreigners began a beach rave party on a Good Friday without any permission. We stormed the party and smashed it up, he says. A third of Goa's residents are Catholic Christians. British novelist Deborah Moggach even spoke about what she called the touristic caste system in Anjuna, alluding to the Indian caste system. The Brahmins (uppermost in India's caste hierarchy) are the old hippies... They whizz around on old Enfields - how superior people look on motorbikes! she wrote. They have long ropes of hair, washboard stomachs and low slung sarongs... At the lowest rank are package deal tourists. Rising abuse Four decades after the foreigners arrived, Anjuna's hippy reputation appears to be backfiring. Its only hospital, a 20-bed private operation, treats an increasing number of drug overdose cases. Seventeen of the 74 foreigners who have died in Goa in the past two years were in Anjuna, and 11 of them are suspected to be have died of drug abuse. Tourist at Anjuna beach The crowds have thinned since the murder of UK teenager Scarlett Keeling Drug abuse cases have risen here since I came here seven years ago, says Dr Pravin Tippat, who works at the hospital. Anjuna even has a detox and rehab clinic, run by a NGO, which reports high drug and alcohol abuse in the area. We get foreigners every month coming to help for drug abuse. People are taking all kinds of drugs, says Pamela D' Costa, who works there. Though the police talk about record drug seizures, successfully banning nude sun bathing and cleaning up the place, it has not really been successful. It is still easy to get drugs. At the almost completely foreigners-only beach where Scarlett was murdered, women sunbath topless on deckchairs with cows and stray dogs for company.
[Goanet] The land where hippy trail reaches a historic impasse
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topics/article.asp?cu_no=2item_no=207867version=1template_id=46parent_id=26 The land where hippy trail reaches a historic impasse Published: Tuesday, 18 March, 2008, 02:15 AM Doha Time By Ian Jack Fiona MacKeown, mother of the murdered British teenager Scarlett Keeling, was by no means the first parent of a large family to travel from a rambling home in rural western England, in the middle of a damp winter, and see what Goa had to offer by way of diversion. Evelyn Waugh had six children (a seventh died in infancy); Fiona MacKeown had nine (eight since February 15, when 15-year-old Scarlett was found dead on a Goan beach at Anjuna). Waugh travelled from Piers Court, a Georgian mansion in Gloucestershire, England. MacKeown came from a huddle of caravans near Bideford, Devon, England, a home summarised as a mountain of old tyres ... empty beer bottles ... and rubbish by London's Daily Mail. But the bigger difference is that Waugh left his children behind. He came to Goa in December 1952. The scenery (is) delicious ... the people soft and friendly, he wrote to his wife. The Portuguese colony made a great deal of him. A car and guides were provided. While he was shaving one morning in his hotel, a solicitous official appeared and said, All the peoples in Goa are asking how you slept. Waugh was no stranger to drink and like MacKeown he was a great traveller, though not a Romany. What he wanted out of Goa, however, was a religious rather than a sensual experience. As a Roman Catholic, he had come to witness the exposition of the sacred relics of St Francis Xavier, the Jesuit missionary whose body had been brought back from China to Goa in the 16th century, where it had lain (minus its right forearm, which other missionaries had hacked off and taken to Rome) preserved in its glass and silver casket ever since. Waugh joined the queue in the cathedral, kissed a foot (one brown stump of toe emerging from the white wrapping) and then went off to a five-course lunch in the palace of the patriarch. What did the name Goa mean then? In the West, almost nothing. India's independence five years before signalled that colonialism was coming to an end, but the countries of western Europe still had plenty of colonies. Goa was merely the oldest, a small enclave in India taken from its Muslim rulers by the Portuguese in 1510. The conquerors' religious zeal and skin-blind sexual desire meant many Goans were Catholic and of mixed race, but this hardly recommended them to either the rulers or the ruled in British India. All the qualities that were later distorted and exaggerated to make Goa the world's number one party destination met Anglo-Saxon disapproval. The explorer and translator Richard Burton, there in the 1840s, found it a worse than useless colony filled with drunk, lazy men, and abundant evidence that religious conversion and miscegenation led to the utter degeneracy of the breed. Degeneracy to one writer in one age is harmony to a different writer in another. Ten years after Waugh departed, his friend and fellow Catholic Graham Greene arrived to write a piece called Goa the Unique. Goa had been repugnant to Burton; to Waugh it seemed either sacred or quaint; but in the give-and-take of its villages and mixture of religions Greene glimpsed of a happier society than many countries, including India at large, had achieved. He stayed with a civil servant in a government bungalow. The civil servant's young wife, Maria Couto, remembers that at a party one night Greene was offered Benzedrine and took some. The Coutos had never seen recreational drugs before. Remembering this week, Maria Couto told me, the important thing to stress is that it wasn't offered by a Goan — it came from a German girl. The year was 1963. Two years earlier India had invaded or liberated Goa after a long confrontation with Portugal's dictator, Antonio de Oliveira Salazar. As Maria Couto explains in her recent history of Goa, A Daughter's Story, it was the years of Indian blockade that laid the foundations of a new Goan way of money-making that you might say, taking an impossibly long view, killed Scarlett Keeling. Salazar was a defiant imperialist who determined that Goa would survive any shortages. Imports went far beyond local needs: potatoes and oranges from Europe replaced Indian sources, but there was also gold, watches and liquor, with the surplus smuggled to India. Goa's iron ore deposits became an ever more crucial export; mining licences were granted indiscriminately. Agricultural labour became scarcer, the coconut crop
[Goanet] Creaky paradise (Sudeep Chakravarti, Hindustan Times)
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- Creaky paradise March 16, 2008 Sudeep Chakravarti First Published: 22:14 IST(13/3/2008) Last Updated: 22:16 IST(13/3/2008) Two days ago, a friend and I were breakfasting at a chic café in Baga, a bizarre Goan confluence of the digital hippie, Indian yuppie and those whom I simply call Charter Jack and Charter Jane — Oi, mate! and chips with everything. A French couple, replete with tattoos, wearing worn clothes, BO, and a girl of about six came and sat by us, burnt some charas, rolled a joint, and began to fumigate the vicinity. My friend, a Goan preparing to adopt a girl, was outraged at the couple's nonchalance in doing something so openly in Goa that would land them in jail in their own country, besides possibly placing their daughter under State care. I can't believe these guys, she spat. They should be whipped. And this Scarlette, she continued, how could her mother leave a 15-year-old girl by herself in this day and age, in an area known to be unsafe, known for drugs and raves and what not and go away on her travels? Would she do that in England? No. But this is Goa, right? So now the girl is dead. Scarlette Eden Keeling, flower-child of a flower-parent, is dead, after allegedly being on an extended trip of substance abuse, after allegedly being raped by a manager of a shack at Anjuna beach. Less than an hour's drive north of where I live, in Panjim, Anjuna was once the eastern extremity of Woodstock. Today, it is a tawdry zoo-market of veggie and chemical kundalini, Che T-shirts, Tibetan exileware, brownies and banana lassi by a coast denuded by theft of sand and encroachment of humanity in shacks, shacks and more shacks: legal, illegal, extra-legal. Unfettered rave parties take place on hilltops and valleys within everyone's hearing — even the administration and the police. At the Café Looda each Wednesday in season, world travellers with beatific smiles brought on by produce from Shiva's kitchen garden take photos of each other on mobiles, as they gyrate to mediocre psychedelic lounge music and fairly robust rock. And now the world has come to Goa to inspect this tiny, pretty state's seedy, seething underbelly, all because of Scarlette. Where the heck was the world all these years? Why the quiet till Scarlette? Perhaps, because for too long the world and Goa have mutually dressed each other in contraceptives of 'hip' and 'cool'. Perhaps for too long we have bought into an idea of Goa complete in delusion and denial that India's premier 'party state' all too readily offers us, and all too readily has learnt to prostitute. People call it many things. I call it Malaise de Goa. Goa, once Gomantak and Govepuri, and in the time of the ancients, Aparanta -- the land at the horizon -- is a charmed place. To come back home to Goa from travels is to ascend into calm. Walkabout in Panjim, I can greet familiar touch points from the grocer and pharmacist to the ageing grandee and elderly beggar. For days, there is little reason to speak; to hear birdsong is enough. Friends and family criss-cross Goa to be with each other, share a drink, meal, humour, care. Here, I learnt again about colour. After two decades in the Big City, here I learnt again to breathe. But even as I look upon Goa with the eyes of a lover, I experience violent disenchantment with it. It is difficult to deny a place that resembles a fading courtesan, desperate for coins; even, a Banana Republic with caricature dictators. This is a creaky paradise, a pilgrimage for Marquez. Nearly two years ago a restaurateur acquaintance of mine, an Indian and a longtime Goa resident, was killed at his home. He was first beaten up, and then his neck nearly severed. The whispers were soon about: land deal gone sour, dangerous business. There were also overtones of marital deal gone sour, dangerous business. Both happen. They still haven't found -- 'apprehended'? -- his killer. Family and friends were advised by the powers not to push investigation; even a flamboyant businessman who calls Goa home passed the word. Let it rest, he advised. Look to the future. In the four years I have called Goa home, this has happened quite a lot. Diplomats' children have turned up dead. So have sundry, evidently healthy tourists from all points of the globe. They have turned up dead in hotel rooms, beaches, crevices and forests, for reasons ranging from depression and drugs to pure mystery. Several names have simply disappeared, either AWOL in the subterranean afterlife of Goa, or 'disappeared', to use a euphemism for those forcibly taken out of circulation. As with Goa's
[Goanet] FLOSS in schools... a syllabi for the Third Standard (eight/nine-year-old) student from India
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- Free software in schools. Download this from here http://www.divshare.com/download/4053521-61e From Farida Umrani [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am working with Prof. Sridhar Iyer at Dept of Computer Science, IIT Bombay on content development for school computer science based on Edubuntu . We will have the content for elementary class ready in 2008. I am sending you a draft of a textbook for class I (the file is bulky; hence split and send in two mails). [DOWNLOAD FROM URL ABOVE] At present, I am implementing this curriculum in one of the pilot schools. We have included Scratch as a programming language for students in Grade 3 4. Currently we are focusing on elementary classes and plan to scale it up in the next academic year. We are facing difficulties in getting the teachers familiar with open source. Most schools do not have a system administrator or even a regular Internet connection to get the regular updates and prefer an installable CD that gives them everything. But to a windows user, this does not appear intuitive and hence they are put off by it. I wanted to know about your experience with Goa schools? I have read that GCSP trained engineering students and teachers. Did these students help the local schools? We announced a training program for school teachers, but got poor response and therefore deferred it. Did you face similar problems? How did you deal with them? I myself have a Psychology background... and it has taken me several hours of work and reading up the forums to understand the installation and getting all the dependencies right. However, what is encouraging is that students have received the open source applications very well. I hope to learn from your experience at Goa. -- -- Frederick 'FN' Noronha | Ym/Gmailtalk: fredericknoronha http://fn.goa-india.org | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Independent Journalist | +91(832)2409490 Cell 9970157402 --
[Goanet] Change of my email address
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- Dear Friends, This is just to inform you that my email address will be changing from the 1st. April 2008, from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to my new email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kindly make the necessary change in your address book. Excuse me for any inconvenience caused. Warm regards, Reggie Gomes. /_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Reggie Gomes, Mark Mansion, F-1, Behind Bank of Goa, St. Augustine Vaddo, Santa Cruz, Goa - 403005, India. Ph. No.091-832-2448952. Mob:9423883177. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] /_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
[Goanet] India, sixth 'Wonder' of Americans
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- From Jerry Fernandes's message, I get a feeling that he is questioning the validity of the survey. Or perhaps he feels that Venantius Pinto is questioning the validity. If my feeling is wrong, please ignore the rest of the message. We should understand that the survey did not question the respondents only about India. They were asked to give their opinion about other countries like Great Britain, Russia, China, Japan, etc. And there were five other countries that scored better than India in the survey. I am told that such surveys are done quite scientifically. Despite that, surveys do make mistakes, some horrible ones also. However, I doubt that in this case the mistake would be such that instead of being the 6th best, the Americans view India as the 6th worst. Sachin Phadte _ Tried the new MSN Messenger? It’s cool! Download now. http://messenger.msn.com/Download/Default.aspx?mkt=en-in
Re: [Goanet] *Happy Birthday Mario!*
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- Happy birthday Mario. May every suicide bomber's dreams of 72 virgins in heaven be for you a reality on earth. Till that happens, power to your pen. Roland. On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Francis Rodrigues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks, It's that time of year again! 18 March: Happy Birthday Mario Goveia! Great to see you online again - I'm sure Santosh, George, Gabe, Gilbert, Bosco, Cornel, Mervyn, etc. are tickled pink! See ya Toronto at the Great Goan Convention in July. Oooops, I almost said Toledo - is there a party tonite?? Have a great year! FR.
[Goanet] About Goa History (Portuguese India)
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- The history that JoeGoaUK posted is quite amatuerish. I recognise that it was Joe who did not write it, but was sent to him by a Portuguese admirer of his flickr photos. The one that takes the cake is: There were huge gambling salons, licensed by the municipality, where determined players lodged for weeks together; and every form of vice, except drunkenness, was practised by both sexes, although European women were forced to lead a kind of zenana life of seclusion, and never ventured unveiled into the streets; they even attended church in their palanquins, so as to avoid observation. When every vice was practised, it is amusing that the participants made special effort to remain sober. And women who practised every form of vice (except, of course, drunkeness) were forced to lead a kind of zenana life of seclusion. Sachin Phadte _ Tried the new MSN Messenger? It’s cool! Download now. http://messenger.msn.com/Download/Default.aspx?mkt=en-in
[Goanet] Come together to combat communalism - CICH
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- Come together to combat Communalism - CICH Citizens' Initiatives for Communal Harmony organised a cultural programme and rally, 'Come Together to Combat Communalism' on the occasion of the second anniversary of the tragic communal violence at Sanvordem-Curchorem in March 2006. The theme of the programme was 'Communal riots never again' Welcoming the participants and the audience, Ramesh Gauns, Convenor, CICH, said that it is necessary for all citizens to come together to say a firm 'no' to communalism. All efforts must be made to counter the spread of communal poison by communal forces. Mr. Gauns lamented that 2 years on, most of the recommendations of the one-man magisterial enquiry appointed by the Government remained unimplemented. Mr. P.D. Lotlikar, ex-Station Director, Doordarshan, recited a poem 'Vepari'. The poem powerfully pointed out that some forces are doing a business out of communalism, and called on citizens of Goa to resist these traders in misery. Jan Ugahi from Margao performed a dance and song showing the dangers of communal strife. A student from Guddemol (which was severely affected by the 2006 riots) performed a dance and then sang a song along with two of her friends. Poet Yusuf Sheikh, who also is the ex-Station Director of All India Radio presented his poem reflection disturbance on account of communal tensions, followed by a street play 'Ekchar' performed by the Sakhya Hari troupe from Savoi-Verem. Dressed in eye-catching costumes, the group enthralled the audience with its imaginatively choreographed performance. The play depicted the harmonious and multicultural ethos of Goa and showed how communal violence can disrupt the lives of residents, leaving misery in its wake. Dancing to the powerful, mesmeric beat of traditional drums, the troupe put up a performance that was highly appreciated by the sizable audience. Rang Mell from Kala Academy School of Drama, Kala Academy, also presented a skit on communal harmony directed by Padmashree Josalkar. Dr. Francisco Colaco sang a song 'Noman tuka Goa paying respects to Goa and its rich, varied culture, and above all its traditional harmony. Mr. Naved Muzawar recited his poem 'Mujhe koi Insaan Nazar Nahin Aata'. It was in the form of a lament to the Almighty that all around one sees only people of one or the other religion, but nobody subscribing to humanism. Children from Margaret Bosco Bal Sadan, Paliem, rendered in song a call for safety of all. The last item was a song composed and sung by poet Dadu Mandrekar. The programme concluded with the singing of the national anthem. Ms. Dipti Arolkar from CICH compered the programme. Ramesh GaunsAlbertina Almeida Convenors Citizens' Initiatives for Communal Harmony -- (M) 9326137682 If you have knowledge, let others light their candles in it. — Margaret Fuller
Re: [Goanet] Unfortunate fallout from the Scarlette death.
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- - Original Message - From: Averthan D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Goan Observer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Gomantak Times [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Ibonio M. B. D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Goanet [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'R.S. Kamat' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Claude Alvares' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Adv. Bernard D'Souza' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Dr. Sushrut Martins' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Rahul Goswami' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Aravind Bhatikar' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Shashi Kamat (Vaikunt A )' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 1:33 PM Subject: [Goanet] Unfortunate fallout from the Scarlette death. Dear Editor, The reactions to the unfortunate death of the British teenage tourist Scarlet Keeling by the Ministers of the Goa Government are very disheartening and unfortunate.These Ministers are behaving like street fighters trying to defend their own actions (or inactions) by pointing the finger at Fiona Mackeown, the mother of the deceased child. It is high time that our Ministers grow up and stop behaving like immature children who indulge in mutual recriminations when a crime is committed. It is time for an impartial (judicial?) enquiry into the nexus between the drug traffickers, the local police and even our politicians in this horrible cancer which has enveloped the beautiful state of Goa. COMMENTS: This will happen only and only if Goa's educated and conscientious citizens including the 'elite' do all of these things, voluntarily and willingly, and at the end of the day are prepared to stand in the line to vote, come what may. 1. Demand written guarantees of 'Administrative Clean-Up' i.e. what/how etc. from the contesting political class, not as a one page manifesto but its entire manual on how they will operate to bring in good-governance. 2. Demand from political parties the following: a) No second term for its MLAs. b) Reduced by half the permitted strenght of the Cabinet. c) No office of profit for its MLAs. d) No dual post. e) 'Recall Provision' if people not happy with the MLA's performance. and last but not the least f) Refuse to vote for INDEPENDENTS. If the above is not forth-coming from the so-called vibrant citizens of Goa who wish to see the 'good of Goa', then they should stop giving 'tall lectures' which amount to nothing at all. Cheers floriano goasuraj
[Goanet] Comments on Most Sensitive Newspaper Headlines - March 15, 2008
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- GT: Wanna land? Bring RBI permission - Screws turn on foreigners - 400 cases referred to RBI ' Without RBI permission, no foreigner will be allowed to purchase land in Goa. - Dayanand Narvekar ' Comments: On the face of this Headlines, one would think that Dayanand Narvekar has, at last, got up from his sleep and is now vibing with the serious sentiments of the people of Goa who have been shouting their throats hoarse and agitating for long on this basic issue. But it is not so at all. Dayanand Narvekar, at most, has woken up with a tremendous appetite to make pots of money in a very short time, this time from the loaded foreigners. As the State's Law Minister, Dayanand Narvekar could have implemented the RBI norms for purchase of landed properties in Goa by foreigners from the very beginning. On the contrary, he, through the State's sub-registrars, whose appointments he controlled, made a whack by selling properties to foreigners without even acknowledging that there was such thing as the RBI clearance requirement. And Now he is tom - toming the RBI norms. Why?? It is very easy to see through this plan if one knows how Dayanand Narvekar operates. And the love for Goa and Goa's properties is furthest away from his plans. When he was the Town and Country Planning Minister in the previous government, he suddenly came up with a new policy which sent shivers down the spines of the builder-community in the City of Panjim, Margao etc. Just a one line policy which was given wide publicity, just like this one. ALL BUILDINGS WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS WILL HAVE STILT-PARKING ON THE GROUND FLOOR There was a veritable running race by builders to get to the residence of the MINISTER, wanting to be the 'first' to appease him with sackful of notes just to save their projects which had already been planned and probably sold out. Within a fortnight, Daya had made crores to be unleashed on the gullible citizens of the Aldona Constituency during the next coming elections. Dayanand Narvekar knows that his IT Parks and IT Habitats are doomed. Dayanand Narvekar knows that his Cricket Stadium at Tivim is slated to be doomed, in view of it coming up in Forest and Agricultural land. He now wants to be the champion of the cause of agricultural land in Goa. His new policy Agricultural land cannot be sold for non agricultural purposes There goes his Cricket stadium. But he has enough ingenuity to make tones of money. Hit the foreigners hard and bleed them to death. Mind you, no one will see the face of this new policy to save Goa's land from foreigners once he has made his kill. Is there a need for a Nostra Damus to make predictions?? floriano goasuraj -- GOA needs a 'REVOLUTION' if it is to see better days. Goasuraj is that revolution. Support it. Website: www.goasu-raj.org
[Goanet] Talking Photos: Please identify these pics
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- Talking Photos: Please identify these pics 1. 'SpitSanta Fest Moddgonvam' http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk2/2343895438/sizes/l/ 2. Fruits from the current season http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk2/2343065757/sizes/l/ 3. 'Baint Chokk' http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk2/2343066163/sizes/l/ 4. Bridge Where? http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukbridges/2343905494/sizes/l/ 5. Bridges where? http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukbridges/2291778993/sizes/l/ Note: the above titles may also be taken as clues Please write back even if you know just 3 Non-flickrs may check rediff pics from the link below - click on photos Thank you for your support [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa or http://is.rediff.com/profilevisitor.php?mem_id=48419 ___ Rise to the challenge for Sport Relief with Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/
[Goanet] Talking Photos: Toram
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- Talking Photos: Toram What Raw Mangoes remind you of? - Tora Xiro )Xitakode or Pejekode) - Toram Miskutt - Toram foll or fou (preseerved in salt water in a 'Buyanv' - Ambea Solam (made from Raw Mangoes) - Chirmutta toram (small tender Raw-mangoes pressed with heavy weight like grinding stone etc.. see pic) - Masala toram (Chirmutta toram filled with spicy red masala) - Toram bateri (Raw mango is cut into two and filled with salt, raw chillies or chilli powder and then hard pressed under the school bench-leg or Darache hanchint (place the stuffed mango inbetween the open class room door hinge and close the door to hard press the mango -bateri) - Toram Koddi (Curry) - Ukolo toram (matured raw mangoes are first bolied and then stored in a 'Buayanv' see pic -Toram chetni? (heart of Mango Chetni but don't know if it is done of Raw-Mangoes. you can add more.. Check these Raw mangoes fron the current season http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk2/2340211136/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk2/2343896774/ Check some toram miskutt, chirmutta toram etc at Vasco Market http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk4/320743255/sizes/o/ look at this funny shapped 'Toram' http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk2/84921081/ Toram fou - Buyanv http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk2/84939927/ Watch them growing here http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk8/354862458/sizes/o/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa or http://is.rediff.com/profilevisitor.php?mem_id=48419 ___ Rise to the challenge for Sport Relief with Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/
[Goanet] Daily Haiku #46
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- DAILY HAIKU #46: _ COMEDY _ the go'an is a cl'own, but the bania is funnia! _ http://2008goanconvention.com/blog/index.php http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.ph _ Your chance to win great prizes with Windows Live Mail and Rogers MobileMail. Click here to learn how. http://g.msn.ca/ca55/207
[Goanet] Why is Porrikar/BJP Silent?
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- Why is Porrikar/BJP Silent? The recent rape cum murder if the 15 year old girl at Anjuna has definately given Goa a bad reputation all across the globe, specially in UK. What surprises Goans and people all over the world is the absolute gibberish stated by the CM Digamber and his spineless Home minister,Ravi Naik, specially on the electronic media. While the attitude of the congress which is on a backfoot desperately trying to defend its lapses is visible, what with Digamber even trying to subvert the media glare by playing the Madkaikar card. What i do not understand is why the BJP and its prime spotlight seeker porrikar are silent over the issue? is it because top BJP mla;s are allegedly involved in the rave parties and close to drug lords in the north? I challenge all pro-porrikar agents on Goa net to explain why Porrikar, who recently was even hell bent to start an agitation against Jamir, is not taking the congress to task on this issue. I understand from certain friends in the national media and based in goa that the buzz is that Digamber and Porrikar have recently signed a silent out of the assembly MOU to support each other for a dime...birds of a feather of a same colour...once upon a time... Regards Cedric da costa Dubai Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [Goanet] Of Xenophobics and Patriots
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- Mervyn, Thanks. I just added gold to my modest portfolio, on your recommendation. Cheers, Santosh --- Mervyn Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Santosh, You could have stopped right here and this would have been an excellent post. The rest of your post is excellent almost beyond description. Thank you. Mervyn Lobo PS. I am leaving the rest of your words untouched so that anyone who missed it the first time gets another chance to read it.
[Goanet] Final slate of questions for Manohar Parrikar
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- Dear Rajan Parrikar and Dr.Anand Virgincar, I would like to revise my request below to have an emergency single question to Shri Manohar Parrikar, Leader of the Opposition, Goa Assembly. Q. When will you hold a Press Conference ALONG WITH Shri Dayanand Mandrekar, BJP MLA of Siolim Constituency [including Anjuna beach area] to sate the BJP's stand on 1. Death of Scarlett Keeling 2. Ravi Naik's threat to block renewal of visa/deport Fiona Mackeowne in May 2008 3. Involvement of migrant employee at a beach shack, Murli Sagar and 4. Drug trade in siolim Constituency? All other questions can await the Budget session. Mog asundi. Miguel Miguel Braganza [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote: Dear Rajan Parrikar, You obviously have the consent of Manohar Parrikar for the Questionaire. Perhaps, Digamber Kamat will agree likewise . if and when you contact him. Q.10 What is your opinion on Charter flight tourists vis a vis net income to Goa therefrom? It will be interesting to know what MP and DK have to say about Casinos, marinas, minor ports, mining in wildlife sanctuaries, noise pollution, rave parties, migrant vote banks, corruption, etc. I do not envy your position or role in this interview. Best of luck in the interviews. Mog asundi. Miguel Your original questions were: Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 04:26:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Rajan P. Parrikar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Final slate of questions for Manohar Parrikar The following is the final slate of questions that are being sent to Manohar Parrikar. We ran these by a few Goanetters and sought inputs from them. But only Dr. Anand Virgincar and I are responsible for any shortcomings, acts of commission or omission, in this finalized version. We may continue to fine-tune these questions, add or subtract, but the core content will be roughly as set out below. I will be interviewing Manohar Parrikar, and hopefully Digambar Kamar (if he agrees to it). No date has been set yet but we expect to have that figured out soon. Regards, r Theme 3: Tourism Question 10: Our tourism policy has been thoughtless and directionless. Goa is now seen as a hotbed of drugs, rave parties. It has become a trash can that has attracted the worst elements from India and abroad. Coastal Bardez, Morjim, Arambol are as good as independent territories. There was no effort to shape the tourism policy meaningfully during your tenure. Instead we heard you tout Goa as a 365-days destination. Are we going to live with this kind of tourism the rest of our lives? - Why did you not put an end to rave parties during your tenure? - The Russian presence in and around Morjim is alarming. There is evidence of criminal activity there - drugs, prostitution etc with active collusion with local authorities. Why haven?t you raised these issues in the Assembly and in the media? Question 11: We hear that huge Casinos will soon be within kissing distance of our coastline, that Marinas will soon dot the Goan shoreline. It is as if these people want to finish off Goa on all fronts. Where do you stand on the casinos and marinas proposals? Question 12: The tranquility in our villages is increasingly becoming a thing of the past with the high levels of noise pollution. Ordinary Goan families in coastal villages are assailed by loud music blasting from the discos, club and outdoor shacks late into the night. The peace of Panjim?s Mandovi river is shattered by the noisy cruise boats. A lot of these licenses to cruise boats were issued during your term. Are you going to do anything about it should you come back to power? - Our beaches have become encroachment zones with shacks and huts and the associated litter and garbage. No longer can we Goans go take a quiet walk on any of our beaches. What do you propose to do about this? Question 13: Tourism in a country like India - given its poorly regulated civic behavior, lack of civic responsibility, lack of controls, poor law enforcement ? is a recipe for misery, as Goans have discovered the hard way. For the majority of the Goan population that does not benefit financially from tourism, it has become a big nuisance. Do you have an alternative to tourism? What can you offer the educated Goan today, to keep him fruitfully engaged here in Goa? Theme 4: Migrants, Population Freeze Question 14: Among the most noticeable changes in the past couple of years has been the dramatic increase in migrants. We are being hit from both the ends: the rich outsiders seeking to buy Goan homes,
[Goanet] Talking Photos: Super Jumbo Landed at Heathrow today
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- Talking Photos: Super Jumbo Landed at Heathrow The Airbus A380 landed at LHR today 18/3/08 The Airbus A380, the world's biggest passenger jet, has landed at London's Heathrow Airport for the first time. Watch these pics.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauklondon/2343305937/sizes/l/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauklondon/2344135292/sizes/l/ It's Singapore Airlines. Super Jumbo earlier started in OCT last year by the same Singapore Ailines on Sydney/Australia route. [EMAIL PROTECTED] for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa or http://is.rediff.com/profilevisitor.php?mem_id=48419 ___ Rise to the challenge for Sport Relief with Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/
[Goanet] *Happy Birthday Mario!*
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:38:43 + From: Francis Rodrigues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Happy Birthday Mario Goveia! Mario responds: Thank Yw! I have reached the point where the candles now cost more than the cake! Regards, Mario.
[Goanet] Is Christianity a Religion
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:23:55 +0530 From: floriano goasuraj [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1. IMHO the catholic community as such is dead. It only shows its head at church services and related functions and festivities, weddings get-to-gathers and ofcourse 'funerals'. Mario responds: Floriano, Whether you intended to or not, what you have said in the second sentence above seems to contradict what you have said in the first sentence. Floriano wrote: 3. I believe Christianity to be a way of life and cannot be pinned down to the rituals of a religion. Mario responds: As Ana Maria rightly said, there is an ocean between Christ and Catholics. What those who call themselves Catholics - the original Christians - need to do in my never humble opinion, is to get back over that ocean and move as close as humanly possible towards Christ's teachings and attitude of inclusiveness - shifting the priority to substance over form and mind-numbing repetitive ritual. That would make it a way of life as you have opined. However, being a community, I believe there is nothing wrong with attending church services and related functions and festivities, weddings get-to-gathers and ofcourse 'funerals' to foster fellowship, reflect on what the community should stand for, and to get a better understanding of what it is all about - as long as these communal events do not distract from or overshadow the substance of Christ's teachings, summarized so eloquently in the Golden Rule and the Sermon on the Mount.
[Goanet] Come on Ravi....your reputation is our reputation
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- Jerry Fernandes writes: I am surprised at your accusation OF Congress led government. So what you are implying is that if BJP was ruling this would not have happened? During BJP reign, all the beaches of Goa were free of Drugs? There were no foreign gangs on the beaches? The mother of Scarlett has made a specific accusation against the present Home Minister and the head of the police. These are serious issues. Why bring in the BJP here? Assume that there was a BJP government in place, instead of a Congress government. And the accusation was against the Home Minister of that government. Would it be right, then, to say as follows: I am surprised at your accusation OF BJP led government. So what you are implying is that if Congress was ruling this would not have happened? During Congress reign, all the beaches of Goa were free of Drugs? There were no foreign gangs on the beaches? This would be trying to evade the issue. Sachin Phadte _ Post ads for free - to sell, rent or even buy.www.yello.in http://ss1.richmedia.in/recurl.asp?pid=186
Re: [Goanet] *Happy Birthday Mario!*
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 08:03:36 -0400 From: Roland Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Happy birthday Mario. May every suicide bomber's dreams of 72 virgins in heaven be for you a reality on earth. Mario responds: Thanks for the felicitations and verbal Viagra! Mario
[Goanet] Goa: Tourism fuels trafficking of humans
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- merinews.com Goa: Tourism fuels trafficking of humans Armstrong Vaz, 18 March 2008, Tuesday Children trafficked into the state are for either domestic work or other forms of labour (including begging) or commercial sexual exploitation and become victims of abuse and often turn to alcohol to escape and endure the problems they encounter. GOA, A former Portuguese colony on the western coast of India is one of the popular tourist destinations for foreigners during the tourist season. The small state ranks high as far as human development and per capital income in comparison to the rest of the country. The high level of per capital income is fuelled by its overseas Indians contributions, tourism industry and mining economy. But there is darker side to the human growth and a fall out of the tourism trade- Child labour, exploitation of migrant children and trafficking of human’s. Goa since the start of the 70s has attracted a large number of unskilled and semi-skilled workers from other states. The migration fuelled due to the non-availability of manual labor within the state. Further the developmental activity initiated in the State and the booming tourism business, continues to fuel demand for more labour from across the state borders. And that was not enough there is seasonal migration. With the onset of the every tourism season hordes of migrant labour force move into Goa from across the state borders from Karnataka and Maharashtra to do business on the beaches or work at the temporary seasonal shacks. One of the migrating tribal groups is the Lamani community, whose numbers have increased significantly ever since they first entered the state in the late 70’s. The children of the Lamanis’ are the high-risk group who are vulnerable to fall into the trap set by the different vice dens of the tourism trade. These children are sometimes not accompanied by their parents but come to Goa with relatives or with some close neighbors in search of employment in order to escape poverty and hunger. But there are agents or an organized racket, which exploits the children for commercial gains. Agents, who bring children and women into the state to make them work as domestic labourer. These underprivileged children are one of the identified groups who are vulnerable children in the context of child labour, child abuse and the commercial sexual exploitation. Who are trafficked into Goa for labour or sexual exploitation? Children trafficked into the state are for either domestic work or other forms of labour (including begging) or commercial sexual exploitation and become victims of abuse. Children likely to fall for the bait for a better life and exploitation by unscrupulous agents are from children abandoned by their families, children of prisoners, children whose parents are either alcoholics or substance abusers. The vulnerable group extends to children from broken homes, children who belong to single parent families or are born to unwed mothers, children living in areas affected by communal riots. And there are some child laborers who run away from home and have come here in search of work. Where they work The children are mainly employed in an unorganized sector, selling plastic bags, fish, vegetables or fruit in the markets, rag-picking, off-loading fish and vegetables from trucks that come to the main markets. Some find way to work as domestic workers, at construction sites, in garages, in shops as sales persons or helpers, in small hotels and restaurants, and shoeshine boys. On the beachside they can be seen selling peanuts, beer or handicrafts to tourists or as masseurs on the beach. In the construction activity they work as sand-sifters along the coast where sand is loaded for the construction business. They can also be found working on fishing trawlers. And they also entertain you as gymnasts performing different tricks to entertain passer and tourists in different cities and on the beaches to earn their lively hood. Some take to begging on the beaches either forced by their agents or their families to sustain themselves and their families. For majority of them school is a distant mirage, while some drop out of school as they think it is not a feasible option, others find it very difficult to cope with the formal system of education. The children are also vulnerable for exploitation by the pedophiles. Goa, which is one the hot destination for pedophile and where the first case of pedophile broke out in and the state thereafter, has brought in tough legislation to curb the menace. Foreigners manage to earn the trust and
[Goanet] Is Christianity a Religion
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- Dear Friends, Floriano wrote:This is the first time I have gone thro' this tread and I like what is beingsaid. Hence my two-bit inputs. 1. IMHO the catholic community as such is dead. It only shows its head atchurch services and related functions and festivities, weddingsget-to-gathers and ofcourse 'funerals'. My HO : Yes, the catholic Community is going in that direction, except for a few, who are not in the same mould, but then 'one sparrow does not make a summer'. 2. IMHO , the meaning of the words and action of Jesus 'DO THIS IN MEMORYOF ME' have been truly and sadly misinterpreted over the years and the samehave been used as an exercise to build muscles in the arms, raising andlowering ... I have alwayswondered as to what was in Jesus' mind when he said those words and/or whatwas he telling his workers/deciples. i.e. What was he asking them toremember him by? Do what in his memory? My HO : He knew how easily the human mind forgets. He was merely trying to tell us 'Not to lose the relationship of friendship between God and Man'. He did come from heaven to save us. One of the ways we try not to forget is to dwelve in the 'Word' everyday, read the Bible at every opportunity. For every food for the mind, soul etc is in the Bible. 3. I believe Christianity to be a way of life and cannot be pinned down tothe rituals of a religion. My Opinion: I would agree with you, True Christianity would be to imitate and follow Christ and his two outstanding qualities were a) servant leadership and b)humility. To me he was the greatest leader that ever walked the world with the largest number of followers. If only our leaders had these two qualities. PS: I hope I am wrong. Please tell me if I am. Tks. My humble opinion of life is that whatever we do or say, we know at that moment it is the right thing, later on perhaps it could be wrong or right, that's another matter, after all 'Time' is a great Teacher. With every good wish, Leo. Dubai. PS: I will respond if the writing is attacked and not the writer. Message: 7Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:23:55 +0530From: floriano goasuraj [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Goanet] Is Christianity a ReligionTo: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!goanet@lists.goanet.orgCc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1256 Ana Maria's comments 'There is an ocean between Christ and Catholics, Yesthere is a big ocean. Leo and Hortencia. Dubai..In my opinion, if you do your best to be more like Christ, as hard as thatmay be, you cannot go wrong, and you will be well regarded, in this worldand the next. Isn't that what the word Christian should mean? _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [Goanet] India, sixth 'Wonder' of Americans
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- Mario Goveia wrote: It sounds like you are unfamiliar with conditions in both India and America. Mario, I live in America. I am very familiar with the conditions here ;-) You are now the second person on Goanet who claims no one knows anything about culture/conditions unless or until it is approved by themselves :-) I am so sure I know the intricacies and the conditions of America that I willing to be scrutinized by you (and Dr* Rajan Parrikar if necessary) to prove the same. Mervyn3.0 The best way to destroy the capitalist system is to debauch the currency. - Vladimir Lenin - Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail. Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail.yahoo.ca
[Goanet] LIMERICK FOR THE DAY 42 - HOLY WEEK
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- I watch the cars whiz past, shiny and sleek, I see the women in their furs, elegant and chic. I envy them their seeming opulence Even though it's not at my expense - But then I remember that this is Holy Week. - Shanti Dhoot
[Goanet] Goa news for March 19, 2008
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Goa against visa extension for Mackeown - Hindu [Mar 17, 2008] PANAJI: The Goa government has decided to write to Union Home Ministry and the External Affairs Ministry not to extend the visa of British national Fiona ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/6-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindu.com/2008/03/18/stories/2008031854711300.htmcid=1143785534ei=e1DgR-KDCaGGrAOX4_HCDw *** Goa nightlife shackled - Hindustan Times [2 hours ago] Midnight curfew on all bars and beach shacks has been imposed by Goa police, under fire for the rape and murder of British teenager Scarlette Keeling. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/3-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindustantimes.com/Redir.aspx?ID=fac71ca6-b876-45d5-bf58-10860563a5decid=1143818588ei=e1DgR-KDCaGGrAOX4_HCDw *** Goan chief minister briefs Indian PM on Scarlett murder - AFP [9 hours ago] NEW DELHI (AFP) #148; Goa's chief minister briefed Indian Premier Manmohan Singh on Tuesday about the murder of a British teenager as he insisted the resort ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/2-0fd=Rurl=http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gvnozQyc5mqnKAoxwTVkIgNL7kZAcid=1143658950ei=e1DgR-KDCaGGrAOX4_HCDw *** Goa cops beef up beach security - Times of India [6 hours ago] PANAJI: Under attack forbad policing along the coastline against the backdrop of British teenaged girl Scarlett Keeling's death, Goa Police have swooped ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/1-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Goa_cops_beef_up_beach_security/articleshow/2879089.cmscid=1143002498ei=e1DgR-KDCaGGrAOX4_HCDw *** No partying post midnight in Goa - NDTV.com [8 hours ago] The Goa police are cracking down hard after British teenager Scarlett Keeling was found murdered on Anjuna beach. In a severe crackdown, the government has ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/0-0fd=Rurl=http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080044372ch=3/18/2008%208:13:00%20PMcid=1138055169ei=e1DgR-KDCaGGrAOX4_HCDw *** Goa\'s Annual Plan fixed at over Rs. 1700 crores - Hindu [6 hours ago] New Delhi (PTI): The Planning Commission on Tuesday fixed Goa's Annual Plan 2008-09 at Rs 1737.65 crore, including a central assistance of Rs 35 crore for ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/5-0fd=Rurl=http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/002200803182270.htmcid=1143464009ei=e1DgR-KDCaGGrAOX4_HCDw *** Pasricha discusses traffic management in Goa - Navhind Times [2 hours ago] MARGs Mr Gurunath Kelekar said that Dr Pasricha was of the opinion that as Goa is a state where people are educated only #152;fine tuning was necessary and if ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/8-0fd=Rurl=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=031958cid=1143245869ei=e1DgR-KDCaGGrAOX4_HCDw *** Industries in Goa dont fit in zoning atlas - Navhind Times [2 hours ago] It may just be too late for the Goa State Pollution Control Board to locate existing industrial units of similar kind at particular venues, ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/7-0fd=Rurl=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=031969cid=1143812482ei=e1DgR-KDCaGGrAOX4_HCDw *** Israeli woman found dead in Goa - Times of India [4 hours ago] PANAJI: In yet another instance of a mysterious death, a 58-year-old Israeli woman was found dead in a hut at Palolem, South Goa, on Monday. ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/4-0fd=Rurl=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Israeli_woman_found_dead_in_Goa/articleshow/2879339.cmscid=1143789275ei=e1DgR-KDCaGGrAOX4_HCDw *** Food festival at Goa Marriot - Navhind Times [3 hours ago] ... known for its array of food sensations offers a course of gourmet delicacies from the Gold Coast over a 10-day food festival at Goa Marriot Resort from ... http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=Tct=us/9-0fd=Rurl=http://www.navhindtimes.com/articles.php?Story_ID=031924cid=0ei=e1DgR-KDCaGGrAOX4_HCDw Compiled by Goanet News Service http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php
[Goanet] Scarlett Keeling Case
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- Action has to be taken agaisnt Dr Silvano Dias Sapeco, Professor and Head of Forensic Medicine at the Goa Medical College for grave lapses and negligence while conducting the post-mortem of British teenager Scarlett Eden Keeling. Dr Sapeco should not be allowed to get away with such irresponsible and unprofessional lapses. Dr. Sapeco needs to explain as to how his five hour first post-mortem on the body of Scarlett Keeling did not reveal vital details and conclusions found in the second autopsy. In 2003 Dr Sapeco had messed up a postmortem of Mr. Floriano Diniz a Molcornem man in Quepem Taluka, by converting a glaring murder into a suicide and though suspended for a few days he got away without any inquiry and disciplinary action in the matter. Time has come to now conduct a thorough postmortem into Dr. Sapecos misdeeds so that faith of the Aam Aadmi in the medical profession is restored. Goa police needs to ask Scarletts mother Fiona Mackeown some tough questions on her appalling negligence and gross dereliction of duty in leaving her 15 year old minor girl Scarlett in Goa while she set off to tour Karnataka. Goas crumbling infrastructure and filthy beaches is no motivation for decent tourists to visit Goa and as a result of which the State is being visited by a class of tourists who are more of a nuisance value than a boon to Goas economy. There should be a total crackdown on the rampant drugs and other anti-social activities on the coastal belt in particular. In collusion with some politicians the Russian and Israeli mafia have taken roots in Goa which are only getting stronger by the day. Aires Rodrigues Ribandar ___ Rise to the challenge for Sport Relief with Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/
[Goanet] In defence of politicians .... By: Jose Maria Miranda - Comments
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- In defence of politicians. By Jose Maria Miranda Herald March 13, 2008 Strange as it may seem that I could ever write in defence of politicians, one needs to admit, as I have recently pointed out, in these very columns, that we ourselves are largely responsible for the type of politicians and elected representatives that we have. Politics is today perhaps the most profitable profession in this country. It requires neither education nor merit, only some willingness to sell your conscience. And the better you are at the later, the more qualified you are for the job. And that is perhaps the reason why capable, upright and honest people rarely join politics. Like all of us, politicians too have their own weaknesses, which are often fuelled by us by placing unreasonable and unfair demands on them. Our easy going attitude, our reluctance in asserting ourselves, our servile and selfish behaviour have led us to the doors of the politicians, wasting hours and days, sometimes for the smallest jobs that could have been easily done by ourselves, without the need of any intermediaries. At the time of elections and even much before, we expect sumptuous meals from the, occasional or regular doles, payment for our vote and most of all donations for our clubs, youth groups and other associations. We assume that the politician knows where to recover this money from or that he would recover it anyway whet her their demands or expectations are met or not. Here the vicious circle starts. No doubt, there are selfless social workers and activists who spend much to their money on issues of public interest. But most politicians do not belong to this category of people. Frankly, I see no reason why a candidate should spend lavishly on his voters. On the contrary, in my humble view, it is the voters who should spend in getting a good candidate elected if we have the trust in the capabilities, sincerity, honesty and especially character, to work for us and for the State. There are many other issues where the politicians get battered mainly due to our demands, which are sometimes accompanied by lucrative financial offers. These are with regard to illegalities, conversion of land, parking spaces, increase in FSI, etc. One politician once publicly remarked that his voters expect him to support and even get illegalities sanctioned for them. We care a damn how these illegalities will affect the common man, the State's ecology and infrastructure or even put people's lives at risk, so long as our personal interests are served. 'Tum boro monis pun tum amchim kamam korcho nam' is the common refrain generally heard by good people who dare venture into politics. It is obvious that for most of us, 'amchim kamam' have priority over the interests of the State, of the Goans in general, the lives of the people and the character and integrity of the candidate. Our selfish attitudes lead us to vote for the most unwanted and detestable people, just because they have developed their constituency. We are totally unconcerned about the damage these very politicians have caused to Goa and Goans by their decisions and attitudes and the extent of corruption and illegal wealth they have amassed by selling Goa to outsiders. No doubt , we have in this State a few undesirable individuals as our representatives, a bunch of greedy and self-seeking individuals least concerned about Goa and Goans. But before we can blame the politicians for all the ills and evils in this State, we need to apportion part of the blame to ourselves especially for falling at their feet to get the wrong things done. Let us realize that we are largely responsible for the corruption and other sins of omission and commission we accuse the politicians of . Unless we change our mindset, stop being selfish and show regard and concern for others and for our State and for our future generations, it will not be fair to always complain about our elected representatives and their behaviour. Comments: Mr. Jose Maria Miranda is a person who, through his writings, has consistently shown his concern for Goa and Goans. He has attended every worthwhile meeting that has taken place on socio-political agenda, even at odd places. And a commitment like this from a concerned citizen is to be very highly appreciated. Thank you Mr. Miranda for this sensitive write-up. We talked to him at length about this article and asked him just two relevant questions: - Q1: Why did he omit mentioning the Church and/or the Parish Priests
[Goanet] Re. Scarlett Keeling Case: Begin the CLEAN-UP in Goa!
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- Dears, Adv. Aires Rodrigues has raised some relevant points regarding Tourism and its impact on Goa. The drug mafias have not only corrupted our youth and the Police force, but seem to have reached the most respected profession in Goa...Doctors of medicine. The typical Charter Tourist often an unemployed plumber, window cleaner or a sanitary worker living on a Government dole pays for his BB package in a foreign land and survives mostly on the free breakfast for the 4-week period. If he or his family eat anything, it is the Goycho Pao ...with even the Peanut butter coming from UK or other country of origin. So our buses and our beaches are crowded with indecently clad men and women whose contribution to the Indian economy is the US$200 [about Rs.8,000] Visa fee. They hardly buy 30 bottles of cheap beer in the shacks and so their contribution by way of taxes is limited [no luxury tax in shacks]. They live in rent-back accommodation or even in cheap illegal guest houses. What they spend on drugs is tax free, too. That goes to the parallel economy that Dr.Nandkumar Kamat wrote in the NT this Monday [copies on most net groups yesterday]. Goa state does not get a share of the Visa money, only the white trash that Wendell spoke about, arrives on our shores. We have discussed this issue earlier on this list. An Englishman had then threatened me that he would tell his friends back home NOT TO GO TO GOA. Either he has not carried out his threat ...or no one is listening to him in UK. The charters keep coming to Goa! It is now time for ACTION to stop this rot. The Bailancho Saad and , now, the Bailancho Ekvott and UTT Goenkara have begun to make the right noises and hopefully, we will see action in the street by the time the Goa Assembly's Budget session begins. There is no need to ECONOMISE ON THE TRUTH. The Truth sets us FREE !! Mog asundi. Miguel Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 21:17:10 -0700 (PDT) From: airesrod [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Scarlett Keeling Case Action has to be taken agaisnt Dr Silvano Dias Sapeco, In 2003 Dr Sapeco had messed up a postmortem of Mr. Floriano Diniz, by converting a glaring murder into a suicide. Time has come to now conduct a thorough postmortem into Dr. Sapeco's misdeeds so that faith of the Aam Aadmi in the medical profession is restored. Goa's crumbling infrastructure ... is being visited by a class of tourists who are more of a nuisance value than a boon to Goa's economy. There should be a total crackdown on the rampant drugs and other anti-social activities on the coastal belt Aires Rodrigues Ribandar -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
[Goanet] The Scarlett Keeling Saga
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- I'd like to congratulate Pamela D'Mello on her excellent piece on Cultural Imperialism How true. I think her brilliant piece needs far wider circulation, possibly in the British and Indian media. Pamela, you've done us Goans proud, and I salute you. Mervyn Maciel(holidaying in Western Australia)
Re: [Goanet] Talking Photos: Please identify these pics
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 19:21:01 + From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet] Talking Photos: Please identify these pics --- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- Talking Photos: Please identify these pics 1. 'SpitSanta Fest Moddgonvam' http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk2/2343895438/sizes/l/ Sola'ié of Vaguin 2. Fruits from the current season http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk2/2343065757/sizes/l/ Ripe cajú 3. 'Baint Chokk' http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk2/2343066163/sizes/l/ Anvallé 4. Bridge Where? http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukbridges/2343905494/sizes/l/ Zuari: Agaçaím 5. Bridges where? http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukbridges/2291778993/sizes/l/ The venerable Mandovi colapsibles Note: the above titles may also be taken as clues Please write back even if you know just 3 _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
[Goanet] India, sixth 'Wonder' of Americans
--- 2008 International Goan Convention Toronto, Canada Early Bird Discount Registration closes March 31, 2008 http://2008goanconvention.com/registration.html --- Thu Mar 13 21:47:12 PDT 2008 Sat Mar 15 17:57:41 PDT 2008, and Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:38:29 -0400 From: Venantius Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are many sides to this popularity consensus, which is a consensus to begin with. But should Indians even care, and who are those that do concern themselves with such pronouncements in the media. Mario responds: Venantius, not to be picky, but one scientific poll is just a statistical snapshot of opinion, not necessarily a consensus. Properly designed and conducted and repeated consistently, it can track a statistical trend, may identify a consensus, and form a valid tool that can be used in decisionmaking. Should Indians care of what Americans think about it? Of course they should, because India has developed such a close working relationship with the US and its enormous economy where much of the demand for India's services and brain-power comes from. Indians should be delighted at their growing popularity in the US because it shows a reciprocation - similar polls have shown that the US is more popular in India than in many other countries. Venantius wrote: There are good sides to India, but the USA is comfortable with an India which is assiduously following its lead on many issues, unlike other countries less than a fifth of our size. We do not berate the US (and certainly not publicly) on anything. Mario responds: The communists who are part of the ruling coalition in India are constantly berating the US publicly. The Indian government has no plausible reason to do so. I'm sure they communicate on all matters of interest. India is following the US lead primarily in freeing up its economy from the millstone of extreme socialism to the benefit of both countries. India offers the US a huge potential market for its own mature economy and the slower growth in its traditional mature foreign markets. A closer working relation ship is a win-win situation for both. The reason that Indians have been so successful within the highly competitive US economy is because of the natural affinity of most Indians for a free economy, where producing results and personal achievements speak louder than anything else. You must have noticed by now that Indians are very competitive and successful in the US and consequently there is growing respect for India and Indians. As a reflection of this, when I meet a Caucasian American for the first time today, within five minutes he or she are trying to impress ME with the other Indians they know - who are invariably a respected doctor or engineer, a top student or brilliant professor, an IT professional, a small or large businessman or woman, more recently a Catholic priest or a nun, etc., etc., etc. Quite a change from 37 years ago when the conversation tended towards the weather and snake charmers and elephants and tigers. India and the US have a lot in common as far as being two beacons of freedom and diversity and tolerance for the most part, with growing economic ties based on common interests and needs and a shared opposition to Islamist fascism which has targeted India since its inception. India has survived 50 wasted years of mindless Fabian socialism and pecksniffian political philosophies during its formative years, which resulted in a massive brain drain that benefited the US tremendously. Now, with the heavy yoke of socialism partially lifted, India is demonstrating the economic growth that it was always capable of, and the US has taken due note, believe me. Reflecting the growing affinity, President Bush offered India a nuclear arrangement that would considerably enhance India's capabilities in nuclear generated electric power. Guess who is standing in the way - the same communists who were substantially responsible for India's economic malaise before Manmohan Singh began the process of liberalization - India's euphemism for shedding extreme socialism. Venantius wrote: If an F-16 strayed over India, it would certainly not be sent back in crates as the Chinese did. But despite such acts of belligerence and a fascinating insult to itself,they still love the Chinese. Why -- undoubtedly for what China is willing to do to satiate the bellies of capitalism, their own and that of the USA. Mario observes: China and the US used to be mortal enemies during the Cold War. The US and China fought each other in both Korea and VietNam. Besides, the US has guaranteed the freedom and autonomy of democratic Taiwan, which China claims for itself and would try and annex by force if it were not for
