[Goanet] POEM: Remembering You

Remembering You Saying goodbye is never easy, It’s the hardest thing to do. But what hurts even more Is not getting a chance to say it to you. If only for a moment we could hold you close, All the tears we shed would disappear. It’s hard to be strong, When you’re missing someone for so long.

[Goanet] UK Goan Festival: 23 July. Photos of Cornel, Gabe & Rene

UK Goan Festival: 23 July. Photos of Cornel, Gabe & Rene There appeared to be a record turnout at the UK Goan Festival on 23 July 2006. To view the 8 photographs of the event, go to http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/eddiefernandes/album?.dir=/4b65re2

[Goanet] AICHEA DISAK CHINTOP - Julhaiachi 24vi, 2006!

Avsaiponn itle sovkasaen viaj korta ki durbollkai rokddich tachi patt dorta. (Laziness travels so slowly that poverty soon overtakes it.) Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenge

Re: [Goanet] Clarification ......Tanzania re castes in diaspora

Sorry Elisabeth that I have to break the bad news to you and many other ex pats who thought that castes do not exist outside of Goa. They do - very much. Whether in Toronto, Vancouver, and all the big cities in the USA where our community has spread and of course in the UK. Maybe as a kid growing u

Re: [Goanet] Clarification ......Tanzania re castes in diaspora

Ha, lady! You've got a lot of catching up to do via the Goanet archives ;-) Forget your trips to the zoo and Mexico, this is going to take you a year of Sundays. To make life easier for you: Goanet + caste search on Google, 3300 hits! http://shrunklink.com?hvd Cecil Pinto says I have invented mu

Re: [Goanet] "Pro-science" and "logical" - really?

Hi Fred Santosh's views on science are mainstream. I have not read a single unusual (extreme) view from him. He is enthusiastic in his defense of those views, but that enthusiasm should not be mistaken for fundamentalism - like the religious kind (I know your comment was tongue-in-cheek). A s

Re: [Goanet] My challenge

Nice to hear from our readers! And, for the record, Goanet never believed in censorship. We will never block your views because we don't agree with them, or because they might be politically incorrect. Unfortunately, a small group on this list has been spreading the canard that censorship equals b

Re: [Goanet] "Pro-science" and "logical" - really?

--- "Frederick \"FN\" Noronha" wrote: > > Of course, not in the sense of pitting one religion > against another (as we are repeatedly used to in > India, under George Bush's new world order, and all > across Goanet) but in pitting all believers against > non-believers/dis-believers. > Mario ask

Re: [Goanet] The rock solid Christian moral code

--- Bosco D'Mello wrote about Mario: > > It is presumptious of him to assert that I have not > been following this thread. Its because I have > been following this thread, that I have attempted to > get a clear answer from the participants. Mario has > only responded with generalities that he us

Re: [Goanet] The beauty of a secular public forum (2)

--- Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The beauty of a secular public forum like Goanet is > that any ordinary person like me can express his > views without fear and intimidation. No amount of > petulant outbursts and abusive attacks, whining and > complaining, distortions and fabrica

Re: [Goanet] Please identify these plants/leaves (4in1)

If you are talking about the photo at upper-left; Scientific name = Colocasia esculenta Most common english name = Taro It is known by various names in various parts of the tropics. === JoeGoaUk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -- > Please identif

[Goanet] FILMS: Portuguese films from the 1930s to 1950s to be screened in Goa

CENTRO DE LÍNGUA PORTUGUESA/ INSTITUTO CAMÕES GOA-ÍNDIA Classical Portuguese Cinema CLP/Instituto Camões-Goa, will be showing five Classical Portuguese movies from Monday, July 24, 2006. These movies were produced between 1930 and 1950 showing different social and cultural aspects of the Portugues

[Goanet] Fake Morality (part II)

Part I - response to Elisabeth Part II - response to Bosco Response to Bosco regarding "unanswered questions" will be another post. Why does a society develop "cultural and social norms" at the given time? Irrespective of which society and religion developed these norms, they were developed

Re: [Goanet] Of "pagans" and "us".......

Hi Nasci, Should dead pagans be shot too? Why not. Modern religious fundamentalist chauvinism should be creative in its crusade unlike the old crusades which just killed living people. Regards, George > > Nasci Caldeira wrote: I wonder what Radha Krishnan Nair, Vivek, > > Aristo and Santosh

Re: [Goanet] India reacts only to the loss of its territory, not it's people (2)

--- maurice dmello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Very interesting observation. Well, 9/11 was > initiated by Al Qaeda, most likely the tab was > picked up by one of the west's staunchest allies in > the Middle East, and so the west went to war...who > to get rid of? easy target, Iraq. > Mario

Re: [Goanet] India's response to attacks on civilians versus Israel's

--- lenny dsouza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear Elisabeth, > > I have always seen that war appear to stop > terrorism only for a short time but germinates more > wars. This attack may appear good now but imagine > the lifes of the civilian, put your self there in > their place. I have seen

[Goanet] Debate between Mario G and Elizabeth C re "free market" - great success (sic)

Mario G and Elizabeth Carvalho have had a dialogue on the issue of Minimum Wages, and how to better organise the Labour Market vs. Mario's view that the unfettered "Free Market" is the best way of ensuring that everyone gets work. (Wages would come down, obviously, but that is more efficient.) In

[Goanet] Love/arranged marriages

"Frederick \"FN\" Noronha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Many of us may have decided on our own marriage > partners, but I for > one would certainly not look down on 'proposal' > marriages. In one case, you fall in love first and > then get married, while you do it the other way > around in the oth

Re: [Goanet] Goanet as learning instrument (reply to Cornel)

--- cornel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Nasci > I would be happy to accept your contention that I > could not tell the > difference between 'continental' and Continental if > you can provide the > specific evidence. > I await your response. Please ensure your response > is exactly illustrative

[Goanet] Goa news for July 24, 2006

Goa News from Yahoo! News and Goanet.org Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories. *** Goa govt to crack down on foreigners buying land (The Economic Times) GOA: The Goa government will come down heavily on foreigners illegally purchasing property in Goa, in connivance wit

[Goanet] Fwd: Re: The split of the Indian sub-continent

<> The answer to the first question is "yes", but they worked closely only after Nehru had turned down the proposals to keep the subcontinent undivided. It's a popular belief in India that Nehru and Gandhi were against the partition and Jinnah insisted on it. Historical evidence now suggests that

Re: [Goanet] My challenge

NO to Censorship. YES to exercising restraint from making grossly bigoted, disrespectful and inflammatory statements. Cheers, Aristo. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org

[Goanet] Just eight people currently BPL in Saligao village

Just eight people currently BPL in Saligao village SaligaoNet SALIGAO, July 23, 2006: Believe it or not, there are just eight persons on the 'Below Poverty Line' list in Saligao village currently. So, has poverty vanished from the village? Is the situation being glossed up simply by making it tou

Re: [Goanet] TIATR AKADEMI: Public Meeting of tiatrists and MLAs

Nice to see Prince Jacob on Goanet. Obiously, cyberspace is becoming more relevant to Goa too. Every Goanetter would probably know Prince Jacob as a prominent tiatrist and the guy behind the Konkani film PADRI. (My daughter, 8, was in tears over the comedy sequences in the film.. and even I enjoyed

Re: [Goanet] Clarification on the St. Xavier's Society in Tanzania

On 23/07/06, Mervyn Lobo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I amazes me that just a generation ago, most Goans > would marry only someone chosen/okayed by their > parents. A generation ago (in the Goa of the late 'sixties), I didn't know what electricity was, we studied by candlelight, and my brother a

Re: [Goanet] Clarification ......Tanzania re castes in diaspora

I've always been very curious to know how one could tell the "caste" of a person. I'm reasonably fair, with light eyes. I speak English with a British accent, Konkanni with a Goan accent and quite a smattering of French (if my life was at stake). How would someone be able to "identity" me at a danc

Re: [Goanet] Rock solid Christian moral code

Mario A few responses to your post. Cornel - Original Message - From: "Mario Goveia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Rock solid Christian moral code > --- cornel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>

Re: [Goanet] The rock solid Christian moral code

Hi Bosco I found your comments interesting. I do not believe that the idea of "a rock solid Christian moral code" has been persuasive to Goanetters generally, and I am rather bored that perhaps just two guys are unsuccessfully flogging a dead horse on this theme. When Gandhi, on a visit to th

Re: [Goanet] Dr helekars challenge...

Dear Vivek, You make very reasonable points. One has to exercise individual restraint on all occasions. The trouble is though that a secular public forum has people with diverse tastes, perceptions and backgrounds. People also hold different types of prejudice and misunderstanding. Some might be

Re: [Goanet] "Pro-science" and "logical" - really?

Hi Frederick, Thanks for poking some fun at my cost. But seriously, I think your post shows how different individual perceptions can be. One can even make up one's own definition of fundamentalism. Mainstream moderate convictions can be portrayed as extremist ones by simply redefining them accordi

[Goanet] Goan Paneer Pea Curry

India. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/attachments/20060723/58975a63/attachment.html ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet

[Goanet] AICHEA DISAK CHINTOP - Julhaiachi 23vi, 2006!

Munxeaponnachi mot eke sontre porim; ti ugtti astannam ekdom bori cholta. (The human mind is like an umbrella; it functions best when open.) Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA _ Don't just search. Find. Check out the ne

Re: [Goanet] Apparently we have "spokespersons" re: religious intolerance

--- George Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Santosh Helekar is a good and decent human being, a > gentleman and scholar, and a friend. I have > met him a couple of times and admire his > thought-provoking comments. > > and > > I hope Santosh is not further victimized on > this forum. > Mario

[Goanet] World Goa Day Preparations

>From GOA NSW -Australia 0 World Goa Day Preparations have now begun in earnest. Book your stall and attendance early to avoid missing out. Visit http://www.our-goa-nsw.org/community.html for details of preparations.

[Goanet] Of "pagans" and "us"... Was: Re: Bombay bombings

http://www.religioustolerance.org/paganism.htm What is a "Pagan?" Everybody has their favorite definition of the word "Pagan." Most people are convinced that their meaning is the correct one. But no consensus exists, even within a single faith tradition or religion as to what a pagan is. Origin

Re: [Goanet] Apparently we have "spokespersons"/response to Gilbert

Dear Gilbert, That's more like it. Forget all this atheist batheist business. Let's you and me run away to Mexico in your SUV. We'll drink tequilas in the sun. Or would you prefer Cuba. How very Hemingway! Normally I like my men a little more "tajea" but I'm willing to compromise. What do you say?

[Goanet] Aitaracheo Kaskutleo: Ghorabo Ghoddunk Nhoi Moddunk

Ghorabo Ghoddunk Nhoi Moddunk   “Kazar mhollear ek moddpak zaina toslo povitr sakrament. Sorg rajeachea pustokar tumchea kazaracho sombondh boroun dovorleat ani te konnancheanuch pusunk zaina. Jem Devan ektthaim kelam tem mon’xan doxim korum nhoie”   Fr. Santimano Correia Afonso

Re: [Goanet] GOAEVENTS: Free Software meet, July 22, 2006 3-5 pm at Miramar

Fred and others who attended this meeting, You might be interested in Ubuntu's free CD offer: https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ Concerning virtualization, don't waste your time on Red Hat right now. They offer no support for Xen virtualization. You will have to wait for RHEL version 5, due out at the en

Re: [Goanet] TIATR AKADEMI: Public Meeting of tiatrists and MLAs

Mogall Prince Jacob, It is great news for Romi Konkani lovers that finally the Tiatrist have woken up. You may remember my last conversation with you when you were down in Kuwait to perfrom for a show, where in I had personally requested you to inform the tiatr lovers in Kuwait and Goa about the o

Re: [Goanet] Goanet as learning instrument - response to Elisabeth

--- Elisabeth Carvalho wrote: > > Dear Cornel, > I have much respect and sympathy for the Jews, for > their enormous contribution to society and their > perseverance through all they've had to endure in > history. However when they had an opportunity to > make right the wrongs of history, they've p

Re: [Goanet] Goanet as learning instrument re

Well said, Elisabeth! Exactly what I wanted to tell Mario. Cheers, RKN Elisabeth Carvalho wrote: Dear Mario, I enjoyed reading that post because it was issue based. The reasons I don't believe a united India would have been tenable, are (a) the communal violence that does flare up within India (

Re: [Goanet] "Pro-science" and "logical" - really?

To jump into this unholy fray -- sorry, I can't resist it -- this is just to remind all that I have argued in the recent past that Santosh's religion is Science (and he has a disproportionate-to-reality belief in it). In addition, he is quite "communal" over that. Of course, not in the sense of pi