[Goanet] Goa to London anyone? Seeking your help....

2011-06-07 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Can anyone help to carry across one book, from Goa to London, please? If you're travelling to this route and can carry the book, please let me know. Many thanks in advance. FN -- FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 (after 2pm) #784 Nr Lourdes Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India

[Goanet] Vacencies: 3D Systems Is Hiring In Goa

2011-06-07 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
3D Systems Is Hiring In Goa This advertisement will appear in three local dailies in Goa tomorrow. Please forward http://www.deelip.com/?p=6173

Re: [Goanet] Floriano was a denationalised Goan who gave his life for Bharati Bhasha

2011-06-07 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Eugene, I don't see any conflict in the positions below! From what I understand (given my limitations in distance and time, but interest on the subject) (i) Pio's politics were obviously and clearly far to the Left of those who came to power in Kenya post-Independence (ii) He couldn't have been

Re: [Goanet] Floriano was a denationalised Goan who gave his life for Bharati Bhasha

2011-06-07 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
There is some mix-up in the time-line here. Novem Goem was started following a padyatra (long, foot march) in an earlier era. There were donations from abroad too, if not mistaken. See Paul Fernandes' story here http://www.mail-archive.com/goanet@goanet.org/msg05083.html The daily started

Re: [Goanet] Floriano was a denationalised Goan who gave his life for Bharati Bhasha

2011-06-07 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
One detailed report on this issue (though hard to locate now) is: Language Agitation In Goa: Police Firing at Gogol, Margao, CCLDR Report, Citizens for Civil Liberties and Democratic Rights, Goa, March 1987. FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 (after 2pm) #784 Nr Lourdes Convent, Saligao 403511

Re: [Goanet] Migrants, voters, etc

2011-06-10 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Arwin, What do you make of expat Goan communities getting entry into the political world where they stay? Also, where do you get your figure of 40% from? Just xenophobic politicians? Could you clarify whether statistics are maintained in Goa (or the rest of India) about ethnicity? AFAIK, the only

[Goanet] What is driving the Indian middle class towards electoral politics?

2011-06-11 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
This probably has relevance to Goa too! A lot has been happening here. It's more than just a question of harnessing such forces for electoral purposes... --FN Neighborhood Associations have assumed an important role in public policy decision making as the principal voice of the middle class

Re: [Goanet] Cyprian Fernandes: Goans - What Crisis Of Identity?

2011-06-13 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
On 12 June 2011 15:21, Eddie Fernandes eddie.fernan...@gmail.com wrote: The Goans will probably go down in history as one of the peoples who fell in love with their colonisers: Vasco Da Gama and his successors. Don't the Europeans love the Romans too? It could be argued that there's a

[Goanet] I love my xit koddi ... and Konkani : Basilo Magno's birthday

2011-06-14 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Just heard via cyberspace and Rohan of ExoticGoa [http://www.exoticgoa.co.in] that it's the birthday of Basilio Magno [basil...@adinet.com.uy]. Rohan wrote: Basilio Magno is a journalist-songwriter and a very close friend of mine- celebrating his 90's today. Basilio Magno has composed the first

[Goanet] On Skype?

2011-06-15 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Anyone out there on Skype? Please share your username with me offlist. I'm also attempting to build a network of volunteers willing to practise spoken Konkani online, if possible via Skype. FN -- FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 f...@goa-india.org Saligao Goa IN http://fn.goa-india.org Skype:

Re: [Goanet] Wanted: translation....

2011-06-15 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Please could you elaborate what you mean, Lino? Is it possible that the text is in another dialect of Konkani, a topic which we have been discussing these days? FN Aga muja render mama Tsorh ga marhari Damnnem* fo-lleary sol binaka Dudllem** [Tugelem] samballi -- FN +91-832-2409490 or

Re: [Goanet] Indian English

2011-06-15 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
This page strikes me as quite realistic and non-condescending too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_English -- FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 f...@goa-india.org Saligao Goa IN http://fn.goa-india.org Skype: fredericknoronha

[Goanet] Skype classes on Konkani...

2011-06-15 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
... anyone willing to volunteer? FN -- FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 f...@goa-india.org Saligao Goa IN http://fn.goa-india.org Skype: fredericknoronha

Re: [Goanet] FN Souza on Hussain

2011-06-15 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
On 15 June 2011 15:54, Eugene Correia eugene.corr...@gmail.com wrote: Thank the Lord, he didn't paint Mother Theresa nude instead of in the abstract form. If he had done would it have enraged the Christians, particularly Catholics? Mother Teresa nude? This is like letting one's imagination run

[Goanet] Openings at Synapse, Goa

2011-06-15 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
http://synapse.co/careers/ -- FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 f...@goa-india.org Saligao Goa IN http://fn.goa-india.org Skype: fredericknoronha

Re: [Goanet] Wanted: translation....

2011-06-15 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Even at the risk of being told to get my language straight, I couldn't but help wondering what this means: Amani gomani Maux' baba O manddo xiva re O manddo xiva xiva Any help in translation possible? FN -- FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 f...@goa-india.org Saligao Goa IN 

[Goanet] B.A. Journalism seats...

2011-06-16 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
St Xavier's College has some seats available for its B.A. Journalism programme. This is open for students of any stream (after Std XII) provided they have an interest in the subject and are willing to work on it. More details from Nitin Volvoikar nitinvolvoi...@gmail.com or Vaila Fernandes

[Goanet] JSW to source iron ore from Goa

2011-06-16 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
JSW to source iron ore from Goa Wednesday, 15 Jun 2011 BS reported that JSW Steel Ltd has approached six small mining companies in Goa to procure enough to feed its existing steel plant and the proposed pig iron project in the state. Mr Haresh Melwani CEO of H L Nathurmal Co a Goa based iron ore

[Goanet] Rain, wind on June 17 (Fri) afternoon in Goa

2011-06-17 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
... aware of any storm waring? a friend asked via chat. As usual, there didn't seem to have been any. But there was quite a bit of heavy winds and rain lashing parts of Goa this afternoon, around lunch-time. The Met Office is quite slow in doing its job here. As the wind howled outdoors,

[Goanet] DIASPORA: An early Goan editor... in Ceylon

2011-06-18 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Armand de Souza From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Armand de Souza (29 October, 1874 – 1921) was a Ceylonese newspaper editor and democratic activist. He was father of Senator Doric de Souza of the LSSP (the Lanka Sama Samaja Pakshaya, Sri Lanka’s Trotskyist party) and Torismund de Souza,

Re: [Goanet] Navatara Goan owner Carlos Tavora stands up against bandh despite threats and shows the way to all Goans

2011-06-18 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Though the question was not addressed to me, here's one explanation ('veg' could include eggs, onions, garlic, etc)... incidentally I consider myself impure vegetarian -- which is another debate altogether: The concept Pure Vegetarian is common here. It generally means no meat, fish or eggs,

[Goanet] Know Goa Programme....

2011-06-18 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
The Government of Goa, Department of NRI Affairs would hold the 4th Know Goa Programme (KGP) 2011 for the benefit of youth of Goan origin, who are not Indian nationals and have had no opportunity to discover their roots in Goa and in India. The 4th Know Goa Programme 2011 is scheduled to be

[Goanet] Mallya, Victoria R, Liz Taylor-Richard Burton and Goa

2011-06-18 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
According to this page, Vijay Mallya owns a vessel built for the Queen Victoria, later sold toLiz Taylor and Richard Burton. It was anchored in Goa some time ago... http://www.fidibus.info/ -- FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 f...@goa-india.org Saligao Goa IN http://fn.goa-india.org

Re: [Goanet] MEDIUM OF INSTRUCTION

2011-06-18 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Even if Goanet is a write-only medium for Aires, let me make this point: when it comes to convertable currencies, there is no difference. Expats, like Aires, who have lived in at least three continents would agree. Purple equals green equals orange or whatever colour! FN FN +91-832-2409490 or

Re: [Goanet] There cannot be another Goan Revolution

2011-06-18 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Just to say I disagree with the pessimistic voice of regionalism and ethnicity-based logic below. To take the surnames of people we do not like (or agree with) and string them together in an argument based on paranoia and fear of the unknown isn't very convincing. We should be criticising issues,

[Goanet] Aussie links

2011-06-18 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Website of the High Commission of India in Australia: http://hcindia-au.org/ I have a 2009 link which gives the following contacts: email h...@hcindia-au.org High Commission of India, 3-5 Moonah Place, Yarralumla, Canberra ACT 2600 Tel +61-2-6273 1920 Fax 6273 3328 (some contacts might have since

Re: [Goanet] DIASPORA: An early Goan editor... in Ceylon

2011-06-18 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
On 18 June 2011 23:09, joe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Fred, Thanks a lot for the important information about Armand de Souza, who hails from Assagao, according to Wikipedia. Regards. Joel. Dear Joel, I had also posted this in March 2010. Armand de Souza is definitely an impressive early

Re: [Goanet] Indian English

2011-06-18 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
This has been debated at quite some length, probably before Dr Reis Falcão took an active part in the discussions. I find nothing wrong with the terms uncle and aunty. In Konkani (and other Indian languages), the word uncle does not mean dad's/mum's brother and aunt doesn't equal dad's/mum's

Re: [Goanet] Goenchea Rakchondaracho Awaz

2011-06-19 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
We might be going off at a tangent here. It is quite normal for an activist group not to be linked to any political party or ideology, while individuals involved in the group would obviously have their own affiliations. Besides, no campaign group can claim to be apolitical (even not taking a

Re: [Goanet] Indian English

2011-06-19 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
speakers! FN FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 (after 2pm) #784 Nr Lourdes Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India http://fn.goa-india.org http://goa1556.goa-india.org 2011/6/19 Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão drferdina...@hotmail.com: On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 22:04:06 -0700 Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक

Re: [Goanet] Indian English

2011-06-19 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
The first para sounds feudal to me! The second, pure bias? FN 2011/6/19 Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão drferdina...@hotmail.com COMMENT : When one addresses a person as “Sir” or “Madam”, it shows one’s education and class; and not the contrary “Mentally pobres”. It is well known, even in my

Re: [Goanet] Goenchea Rakchondaracho Awaz

2011-06-19 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
To my understanding, *apolitical* would mean the group itself doesn't take political sides. Not that its individual members don't have political views. If you extend the argument below to its logical extreme, members too should not have their own political views. The credibility of an NGO would

[Goanet] Konkani Muslims ... from the Wikipedia [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konkani_Muslims]

2011-06-19 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Konkani Muslims From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Konkani / Kokani Muslims is a Muslim sub-ethnic group of Maharashtrian Muslims living in the Konkan region of India. They speak the Konkani language. A good number of them live in Mumbai. There is a large Konkani Muslim diaspora community of

[Goanet] Henry Louis Vivian Derozio

2011-06-20 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Henry Louis Vivian Derozio is considered to be one of the first Indian poets to write in English. It is also said: His ideas had a profound influence on the social movement that came to be known as the Bengal Renaissance in early 19th century Bengal. It is thought that Derozio was generally

[Goanet] Of Uncles and Aunties... Re: Re : Indian English

2011-06-21 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Apparently, the Chinese and East Asians have a similar usage: (A polite term of address for) a middle-aged or elderly man who may or may not be a relative http://www.singlishdictionary.com/singlish_U.htm (A polite term of address for) a middle-aged or elderly woman who may or may not be a

Re: [Goanet] Feast of St. Anthony

2011-06-21 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Dear AM, You freaked me out by talking about prime numbers, St Anthony, the politics of sainthood, and our Goa villages... all in one breath! The other guy who did the same (even more intentionally) in the past week was Dilip D'Souza, the son of former Mumbai municipal commissioner J.B. D'Souza.

Re: [Goanet] Lost... a dog in Siolim, 17 years old, unable to see and can't hear well...

2011-06-23 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
COMMENT: Now I feel like shifting my cyber-dog-hunting services to Brixton! See this thread too [http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GreenGoa/message/1143] FN On 23 June 2011 14:27, Gabe Menezes gabe.mene...@gmail.com wrote: COMMENT: Two days ago in the local free Newspaper 'Metro' there was a

Re: [Goanet] Incompetent Education Department?

2011-06-25 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Dear Tony, Thanks for reminding us that the facts are important... however emotional an issue gets! FN FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 (after 2pm) #784 Nr Lourdes Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India http://fn.goa-india.org http://goa1556.goa-india.org On 25 June 2011 19:56, Tony de Sa

Re: [Goanet] So glum?

2011-06-26 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Maybe it's my imagination, but I counted with one with a smile, one with a half-smile and a third with... say a quarter! FN On 26 June 2011 01:13, Gabe Menezes gabe.mene...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/6/25 Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا fredericknoron...@gmail.com Why

Re: [Goanet] Medium of Instruction

2011-06-26 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Antonio, That is not the point. It's unfair to abuse Parrikar or Bhembre's (or anyone else's) ancestors, just as it is incorrect for PB and Co to debate on the basis of Alemao's lack of formal education. The question is whose position is more realistic at this point of time, what do the parents

[Goanet] Humour writer George Menezes to speak at the Goa Book Club, June 29, 2011

2011-06-27 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
HUMOUR WRITER GEORGE MENEZES TO SPEAK AT GOA BOOK CLUB, JUNE 29 --- Columnist, writer and author George Menezes is to speak about his work and the writing craft at the Goa Book Club, on Wednesday, June 29, 2011 at 5 pm. The club meets at

Re: [Goanet] WILL ENGLISH MOI CREATE A PARADIGM SHIFT IN GOAN POLITICS?

2011-06-27 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Dear Rajendra, This is a clever argument! I read you saying: if you get your demands met, you will face a communal backlash! Heads we win, and tails you lose. Earlier too, around 1985-87, support was garnered for Konkani by suggesting that Marathi would swallow the minorities... Now we can see

[Goanet] IRS 2011 Q1: Fortnightlies grow in Goa; mixed results for dailies

2011-06-28 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
IRS 2011 Q1: Fortnightlies grow in Goa; mixed results for dailies June 28, 11 Nitin Pandey While Marathi and English dailies have been warmly accepted by the readers in Goa; fortnightly magazines are also getting more readers. Meanwhile, monthlies those are focused on Auto industry like Auto

Re: [Goanet] global goan convention in London

2011-06-28 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Is social networking such a bad thing after all? That is what we have been doing on Goanet for nearly 17 years, and that's how I got to know Eugene Correia! You could ask whether there are more cost-effective ways of reaching these goals. But I thought that more and better social networking was

[Goanet] Western classical music (in India)

2011-06-28 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Looks like Goa has been written out of the story (as happens often!) --FN http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_India#Western_classical_music Western classical music The spread and following of Western classical music in India is almost entirely non-existent. It is mainly patronized by the

[Goanet] COLONIAL COUSINS: Music of Macau

2011-06-28 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Music of Macau From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Macau General Topics * Traditional Chinese instruments * Musicology * Chinese orchestra * Chinese Musicians' Association Genres * C-pop: (Cantopop, Mandopop) * Rock * Hip hop

Re: [Goanet] Song for the day

2011-06-29 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Lovely one! Triggered me to search for the background to the song: Non ho l'età (I'm not old enough)[1] was the winning song in the Eurovision Song Contest 1964, held in Copenhagen. It was performed in Italian by Gigliola Cinquetti representing Italy. Like all previous Italian Eurovision

Re: [Goanet] global goan convention in London

2011-06-30 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Eugene, did you mean social networking or socialising? QUOTE Social networking is the grouping of individuals into specific groups, like small rural communities or a neighborhood subdivision, if you will. UNQUOTE http://www.whatissocialnetworking.com/ Actually, I hope to make it south, to

[Goanet] English, Konkani as MoI... preferences at Saligao

2011-07-01 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
When parents at the Lourdes Convent in Saligao primary were asked which medium of instruction they would prefer, only 4 out of 375 asked for Konkani. The remaining 371 favoured English as the MoI in the primary section. FN FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 (after 2pm) #784 Nr Lourdes Convent,

Re: [Goanet] PARENTS - HAVE SPOKEN - Floriano

2011-07-03 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
My guess is that the parents in Goa (particularly among the Catholic community, which is directly affected) would have not been raising such a ruckus if they had the choice to study in Romi Konkani. That is, if Devanagari had not been stealthily inserted into the language act through a

Re: [Goanet] A secular Governance?

2011-07-03 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
On 3 July 2011 07:53, SOTER so...@bsnl.in wrote: Floriano wrote: Communalism was in the blood of Goan Hindus, for I have witnessed it in the raw. I could write a whole book on the subject. The only factor that kept it subdued was the unmitigating 'disciplined' rule of the Portuguese. That

[Goanet] Query: Renovating a house...

2011-07-03 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
A friend wants to renovate an old-style Goan house, and is looking for the old red tiles that used to be in the past (so as to retain the old look). Would anyone know where these are available? Many thanks, FN -- FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 f...@goa-india.org Saligao Goa IN 

Re: [Goanet] A secular Governance?

2011-07-03 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
[1] Since this is not a court of law but a public mailing list meant for discussions, I obviously do not have any intention to adduce evidence to my comments and opinions. Any reader is free to judge these and see whether the views expressed are reasonable or otherwise, unrealistic or tally (to

Re: [Goanet] A secular Governance?

2011-07-03 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
As the learned doctors should know, Phlebotomy is a different department :-) FN On 3 July 2011 21:21, Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com wrote: In all fairness, Jose should have also asked Floriano for evidence to support the following blood examination conducted by him: QUOTE Communalism

Re: [Goanet] Query: Renovating a house...

2011-07-05 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Gosh, that was rather inexcusable of me. I meant to mention the *old, red* FLOOR tiles. Not the roof tiles. If anyone has any pointers, pls help. FN FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 (after 2pm) #784 Nr Lourdes Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India http://fn.goa-india.org

Re: [Goanet] George Menezes and The Goa Book Club.

2011-07-05 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Guys, light a candle instead of cursing and randomly critiquing others! We had a very nice time with George Menezes doing his reading. But then, of course, we wouldn't be Goans if we didn't get responses of this kind! FN PS: Incidentally George Menezes was a Squadron Leader in the IAF, where he

Re: [Goanet] Goanet Digest, Vol 6, Issue 630

2011-07-05 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Dear Francis, I didn't understand the context of the message below. Sadly, Madame Christine Pereira (ex East Africa, I think), our French teacher, passed away quite a few years ago. You will find a 2006 photo of her here, at one of the reunions http://www.flickr.com/photos/fn-goa/202016172/ As

Re: [Goanet] Query: Renovating a house...

2011-07-05 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
This is what I like about you Goenkars. Not only will they dig up your roots, but they will also tell you which bus to catch. Service with a grin, what better form! Pandu, how's the choris-pao business over there? Here, the glass is working fine (thanks for it!) FN On 5 July 2011 00:17, Pandu

Re: [Goanet] MOI - parents have spoken

2011-07-05 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
On 6 July 2011 02:42, Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com wrote: Did both parents agree in this and other cases? Cheers, This is a non-issue. There is no issue over whether the decision is taken by one parent or both. Incidentally, as I see it, parents overwhelmingly wanting Marathi (or

Re: [Goanet] A secular Governance?

2011-07-06 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
This doesn't strike me as a particularly even-handed tackling of the situation. By choosing a suitable and convenient time-frame, just one side of the problem is being highlighted. If you search (even just online) for issues of communalism in Goa post-1961, the other side of the problem emerges

Re: [Goanet] MOI- parents have spoken

2011-07-06 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
This isn't an issue of Digubab! Please don't reduce everything to Digu, because however bad the man is, the story of Goa's politics is that of lobbies which predate him and will out-live him! This is a story of how English education was blocked for 20 years at the primary level. It also parallels

Re: [Goanet] Hindi video of the day

2011-07-06 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Great going! Now that we've covered English, Konkani and Hindi, we have slots for just 10 more of the languages which Goans are said to have expressed themselves in! FN FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 (after 2pm) #784 Nr Lourdes Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India http://fn.goa-india.org

Re: [Goanet] A secular Governance?

2011-07-07 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
This is precisely my point! We are such a divided lot -- with a very different sense of history and politics -- that by 'framing' the debate in selective terms the focus goes on just one side of the problem. Is the case being made out that post-1961 Goa does not have problems of communalism, and

[Goanet] Goa minister's son acquitted... a query to Aires

2011-07-08 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Aires, do you have a comment on this case, since you had made a lot of statements over it and then suddenly lapsed into silence? FN Goa minister's son acquitted from rape charges Shweta Kamat | Panaji, July 8, 2011 | Updated 10:55 IST The Goa Children's Court has acquitted state

[Goanet] Fwd: Goa minister's son acquitted... a query to Aires

2011-07-08 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Date: 2011/7/8 Subject: Re: Goa minister's son acquitted... a query to Aires To: Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا fredericknoron...@gmail.com Regarding Goa minister's son acquitted from rape charges Fred wrote, Aires, do you have a comment on this case, since you had

Re: [Goanet] In support of Campal Football Stadium - Delegation led by Parrikar meets CM

2011-07-08 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Just hope and pray these guys give you a real sports stadium, preferably a player-friendly small one... not a concrete elephant or shopping complex in the name of a sports stadium! FN FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 (after 2pm) #784 Nr Lourdes Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India

Re: [Goanet] Konkani goes global on Wiki

2011-07-09 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
If this works out, it would be really, really nice. And the impact would be greater than a thousand heads broken in the name of promoting Konkani through its forceable implementation as MoI, script, Marathi-Konkani disputes, etc, etc. Guru Baliga gurubal...@gmail.com mentioned that they are

Re: [Goanet] In support of Campal Football Stadium - Delegation

2011-07-09 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Peter, please see the story of the Duler ground after it was fenced up with concrete! What we need is a playground, not shops and commercial establishments in a prime zone... masquerading as a stadium. FN FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 (after 2pm) #784 Nr Lourdes Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa

Re: [Goanet] On the sham 'security guards'

2011-07-09 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Crime Branch people are involved in crimes... -- Manohar Parrikar. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KauKFldiWcNR=1 Wasn't this the ex-chief minister who expanded the police force vastly (and controversially) during his tenure? Or, are we to assume that all the men taken in then were super clean?

Re: [Goanet] A morning with F N Souza's daughters

2011-07-10 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
http://sounds.bl.uk/View.aspx?item=021M-C0410X0023XX-0400V0.xml Lot of Liselotte Souza voice-based archival recordings here! Am trying to get to the FN Souza parts... FN FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 (after 2pm) #784 Nr Lourdes Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India http://fn.goa-india.org

Re: [Goanet] Conflict of interest?- New Jersey GOA elections

2011-07-13 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Instead of debating principles till the cows come home, it is about time for Goans to stand up, be counted, and actually deliver results. Sometimes I suspect we have an extra gene meant to trip up one another. What you guys say is fine, theoretically. But too much discussion could give us the

[Goanet] Konkani verse...

2011-07-13 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Please could someone render this second standard Konkani poem into English? Thanks, FN Noman Saan aami saan deva Kortat tuka noman deva Vechnuk aani dekh bori Shikap aani reet khori Shikpak dee baal jait deva Avoi bapui gurujan amche Tuje sasayen khoshen ravche shanti di sukh, piray deva

[Goanet] GOA: Nearly 6 cms of rain in the past 24 hours... 92% humidity

2011-07-14 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
-- Forwarded message -- From: DIRECTOR INFORMATION PUBLICITY dip...@gmail.com WEATHER REPORTS Panaji, July 14, 2011 Max. Temperature                                26.9 Deg. C Min. Temperature                                22.3 Deg. C Relative Humidity                            

[Goanet] Full moon... heavy rains

2011-07-15 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Oh wow, it's really raining cats and dogs here tonight. Do you too think it could be the full-moon influencing the weather? (Incidentally, all the traditional calendars prominently display the phases of the moon here.) Hope the weather guys are up to their job tonight, and we don't get caught

[Goanet] IN GOA: Sugar - OLPC (One Laptop Per child) event

2011-07-15 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
monsoongrey.com Email: monsoong...@gmail.com Phone: +9423316395 4C/Fi-2 Models Millennium Vistas Caranzalem, Goa, India 403002 15 July 2011 -- Please do make the time to be there at this event on Tuesday 19th July. Invite attached. This would definitely interest the Free Software group, and

Re: [Goanet] Konkani verse...

2011-07-16 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Thanks for that, Prof Borges! But, don't you think it's more than a bit illogical to attempt teaching something so complex, that too to a six-year-old, and whose parents (in most cases) don't have a clue as to what's going on? I'm talking as a parent here, who's been through it! And certainly

Re: [Goanet] Goa Day cancellation in Swindon

2011-07-17 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Eugene, instead of pouring fuel into raging fires, I'm suggesting that we need to get results. Let those who want to squabble, do so till kingdom comes. The test is, who can offer the results? (A little debate is fine, but not ceaseless verbal slugfests, aiming at proving others wrong and showing

Re: [Goanet] Goa Day cancellation in Swindon

2011-07-18 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
On 17 July 2011 18:51, Cyprian Fernandes skip...@live.com.au wrote: Who is going to sort out Swindon situation? Dear Cyprian, I'm not sure we should worry about this. They are adults, they have their share of commonsense, and know what is good for them. If we look at the histories of Goan

[Goanet] Your contacts

2011-07-18 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Dear all: Finally, I'm undertaking a long-overdue updating of my phone book. If you'd like to stay in touch pls send me your landline, mobile and other contacts so that I could add your details here. Mine are as below (feel free to share). Many thanks, FN PS: Also consider including your

Re: [Goanet] Goans... among Asian writers in East Africa

2011-07-18 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Dear Anthony, You forgot to mention two designations that I hold very dear to my work and achievements -- creative cut-and-paste artiste and ethical spammer :-) Okay, thank you for your kind (and quite undeserved) comment. My goals are far more modest... and include trying to build the 'broken

[Goanet] Background and context of the Historical Archive of Goa. Cyril A Hromnik, Syracuse Univ.

2011-07-18 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
If you can access this paper, kindly send me a copy offline. http://www.jstor.org/pss/3171501 Background and context of the Historical Archive of Goa. Cyril A Hromnik, Syracuse Univ. QUOTE Although barely known to the community of modern historians, the Historical Archives of Goa are probably

Re: [Goanet] Goa Day cancellation in Swindon

2011-07-18 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Arrey patrao! You were offering to play peace-maker a few hours ago, and now seem to be stirring the pot! However justified all sides in the dispute might feel, this seems like a typical Goan 'kestanv' to me! And all the rest of us are typical Goenkars just enjoying the fun :-) FN PS: What we

Re: [Goanet] Goa Day cancellation in Swindon

2011-07-18 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
You guys are embarassing me now! Obviously Cyprian hasn't know enough of me. I'm nice from far, but far from nice :-) You're more than welcome to meet up when here, of course. Anytime after 2 pm works best. FN On 18 July 2011 12:41, Cyprian Fernandes skip...@live.com.au wrote: Thank you Fred, I

Re: [Goanet] Konkani Verse

2011-07-18 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Guys, you are missing my point! While you go about standardising, do you have to make a guinea pig of my seven-year-old who is supposed to understand and study all these little used words! Think of my plight -- I have to teach him too (and learn myself) just because some mineowners/freedom

Re: [Goanet] Goa Day cancellation in Swindon.

2011-07-18 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
The Rt. Honourable Eugene Correia indeed has a point! Unfortunately, I lost my brief :-) The client has found a better advocate :-) Hence please don't expect me to play Devil's Advocate on this topic. And, more seriously, let me resort to asking questions (as JC does... but may I confess that I'm

[Goanet] CONDOLENCES: Sushila D'Souza, wife of Placido D'Souza

2011-07-18 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Just learnt that  Sushila D'Souza, wife of former Indian ambassador (and Goanetter) Placido D'Souza of Anjuna/Poona, passed away yesterday, July 17, in a New York hospital, after a brief illness. An announcement said the funeral will be tomorrow. The family will receive friends at Frank E.

Re: [Goanet] Full moon... heavy rains

2011-07-19 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
On 19 July 2011 08:53, Mervyn Lobo mervynal...@yahoo.ca wrote: Then again, the biggest challenge is probably staying away from the moonshine at all times.. Mervyn, I see you have a lot of faith in modern science! The lunar effect is frequently called a pseudoscientific theory[citation

Re: [Goanet] Thank You (Life is too short)

2011-07-19 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Arrey baba JoeGoaUk! We are not letting go of you so soon. Keep up the good work. Don't worry about thanking others. Looking forward to many more photos (videos and text too) from your lenses and keyboard. FN FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 (after 2pm) http://fn.goa-india.org

Re: [Goanet] CONDOLENCES: Sushila D'Souza, wife of Placido D'Souza

2011-07-19 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
-2409490 or +91-9822122436 (after 2pm) #784 Nr Lourdes Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India http://fn.goa-india.org http://goa1556.goa-india.org 2011/7/19 Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا fredericknoro...@gmail.com: Just learnt that  Sushila D'Souza, wife of former Indian

[Goanet] Konkan Railway...

2011-07-19 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
All India Radio is reporting that the Konkan Railway route is likely to be restored only the day-after-tomorrow. Heavy rain, landslides etc in the area. FN -- FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 f...@goa-india.org Saligao Goa IN http://fn.goa-india.org Skype: fredericknoronha

Re: [Goanet] Konkani Word A Day: Nag, nagddeponn, nagddo...

2011-07-19 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
So many suggestions... someone should take this copyright-expired dictionary of 1930 and rework it, no? It would help to bring it uptodate with the times (including the spellings) and create a resource we can all then share (in cyberspace and elsewhere). FN FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436

Re: [Goanet] RE WHILE GOA IS IN CHAOS, GOVERNMENT TO PARTY IN LONDON

2011-07-20 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
On 20 July 2011 11:42, Eugene Correia eugene.corr...@gmail.com wrote: Is any Goa-based newspaper sending its reporter to cover the convention? If not,  I suggest that the organizers sponsor our own Fred to do the job ;-) Hi Eugene, I noticed the smiley at the end of your comment, but to your

[Goanet] Query: The ghaar...

2011-07-20 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Could someone kindly share with me the scientific name of the 'ghaar', whose skin is used to create Goa's traditional drum, the ghumot? What would be the English name? Is a 'ghaar' the same as a 'saap' and what would be the right Konkani spellings? Many thanks in advance! FN -- FN +91-832-2409490

[Goanet] Goanet in Thai?

2011-07-20 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Guess what's this: http://dir.thaijobpost.com/tag-%5BGoanet%5D.html -- FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 f...@goa-india.org Saligao Goa IN http://fn.goa-india.org Skype: fredericknoronha

[Goanet] Dry day today, mostly...

2011-07-20 Thread Frederick FN Noronha * फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
We had a mostly dry day today. And yesterday too. Just a handful of few, short showers... With the full moon moving on, that was perhaps expected! Now, it seems as if the monsoons is getting restricted to torrential weather around the full and new moon phases! Or so it seems A Goanetter wrote

Re: [Goanet] Ghar or Sap: (Gliding, flying lizard -lacerda ocelata)

2011-07-21 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
Thanks for this! I too came across it earlier. Unfortunately I can't seem to find lacerda ocelata online. Wikipedia describes the common gliding lizzard thus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Gliding_Lizard Is it the one? FN FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 (after 2pm) #784 Nr Lourdes

Re: [Goanet] Skin - book review

2011-07-21 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
On 19 July 2011 15:41, dale luis menezes dale_mene...@rediffmail.com wrote: The artwork of the cover of the Goa1556 edition done by Ravi Kerkar and Crisologo Furtado is a visual treat. Margaret’s hope that future endeavours too would use local talent is also shared by me. I'm not so much into

Re: [Goanet] Re : Dry day today, mostly...

2011-07-21 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
As far as weather forecasts in Goa go, the principle is -- pay attention to what the IMD (Indian Met Department) Altinho observatory has to say, and then expect exactly the opposite! FN PS: For something more reliable, ask a farmer. FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 (after 2pm) #784 Nr

Re: [Goanet] Goan migration...... attempting to come to some figures

2011-07-21 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
If anyone wants a free PDF copy of the Goa Migration Study 2008, please email me offlist with GMS in the subject and I'll send it across. FN FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 (after 2pm) #784 Nr Lourdes Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India http://fn.goa-india.org http://goa1556.goa-india.org

Re: [Goanet] Re : CCP Councilor opposes new Temple Dress Code and Bar on foreigners

2011-07-22 Thread Frederick FN Noronha फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या *فريدريك نورونيا
It is fine to lay down a dress code for visitors to any place of religious worship. To ban foreigners -- on the assumption that they will probably misbehave -- is quite racist! FN FN +91-832-2409490 or +91-9822122436 (after 2pm) #784 Nr Lourdes Convent, Saligao 403511 Goa India

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