Re: [google-appengine] Mail API Quotas

2017-08-16 Thread Gadi Levy
Thanks, I'll have a look at it. On 11 Aug 2017 7:46, "Attila-Mihaly Balazs" wrote: > You could look into setting up SPF and DKIM for your domain + sendgrid. I > found that it helps greatly. Some articles to get you started: > >

Re: [google-appengine] Mail API Quotas

2017-08-10 Thread Attila-Mihaly Balazs
You could look into setting up SPF and DKIM for your domain + sendgrid. I found that it helps greatly. Some articles to get you started: https://sendgrid.com/docs/Classroom/Deliver/Sender_Authentication/spf_records_explained.html https://sendgrid.com/docs/Glossary/dkim.html Regards, Attila --

Re: [google-appengine] Mail API Quotas

2017-08-05 Thread Gadi
One of my paid apps has recently hit the ridiculously low email quota of 100. So looking at the official docs - I followed the recommendation of moving to Sendgrid. Guess what ? Each and every email sent through Sendgrid ends up in the spam folder on ... Gmail. The explanation to this, as

Re: [google-appengine] Mail API Quotas

2017-03-31 Thread P K
(End of quarter, and revisiting all our favorite topics today :-) ) 1. I remind everybody that I have a use case that justifies why this needs to be a native GCP offering (please read and star this , glad it made it through the tracker

Re: [google-appengine] Mail API Quotas

2017-03-31 Thread 'Kim Lewandowski' via Google App Engine
Hi everyone, We know that almost every developer has a need to send email and that the GAE Mail API hasn't been given the love it deservers. I am trying to make it better for everyone on Google Cloud. Please feel free to email me directly with your requirements and a bit more about your use

Re: [google-appengine] Mail API Quotas

2017-03-31 Thread Kaan Soral
I don't know whether I missed it, but we never learned why "exactly" Mail was deprecated I wonder whether it was from a conflict of interest too, for example, it bothered me that my emails were marked as "Promotional", while they were actually "Social", in Gmail Anyway, that's why I also

Re: [google-appengine] Mail API Quotas

2017-03-31 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
How do you know that 80% of your emails sent with Google weren’t wasted? GAE never provided deliverability statistics of any sort. On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 7:35 AM, Kaan Soral wrote: > I'm with Luca here > > Using external services introduces new points of failures and

Re: [google-appengine] Mail API Quotas

2017-03-31 Thread Joshua Smith
Turning off the limit, and changing the pricing for usage that they are already tracking could not possibly be a “massive waste of engineering.” It should be trivial. Maybe 10 minutes was an exaggeration. 15 minutes? And I would spend a penny per email when I need to send 1,000. Thankfully,

Re: [google-appengine] Mail API Quotas

2017-03-31 Thread Kaan Soral
I'm with Luca here Using external services introduces new points of failures and introduces new, edge complications that only arise when you get into things For example, on 10/18/16 I replied to this issue, afterwards, after the mourning period, I ended up using AWS, the email routine I used

Re: [google-appengine] Mail API Quotas

2017-03-31 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
Nobody who sends email at volume will spend a penny per email. For 1MM messages per month that would be $10k. At Sendgrid that’s $500. It’s trivial to enqueue a task that sends an email to any of the hundred other commodity email services on the internet, most of which give you deliverability

Re: [google-appengine] Mail API Quotas

2017-03-31 Thread Joshua Smith
The existing mail API makes sense for things like “ereporter” that automatically sends the administrator a daily email summarizing unhandled exceptions. It also works fine for low-volume cases, like password authentication for apps that only get a dozen or so new users a day. It’s quite

Re: [google-appengine] Mail API Quotas

2017-03-31 Thread Bookingforce CTO
Hello there, being CTO of a company that is betting on Google Infrastructure when I found out about the limitation to 100 recipients, at first I thought "ah, I have to increase that quota", then, after asking (twice) to support team, I felt like "what's wrong with GAE ?" The only fact

Re: [google-appengine] Mail API Quotas

2016-10-26 Thread 'Nick (Cloud Platform Support)' via Google App Engine
The Public Issue Tracker thread brought our attention has gotten tracked now, thanks to PK. We'll update it with any progress. Now, as much as I'm sure we all appreciate Jeff's kind offer, I don't think it will be necessary to pay him $1000, since Cloud Platform Community Support are here to

Re: [google-appengine] Mail API Quotas

2016-10-18 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
Since this thread keeps coming up… I’ll make you all an offer: For $1k I’ll migrate your GAE app to Sendgrid, Mailgun, or whatever other email service you want. Assuming your code isn’t spaghetti, it will probably take me an hour. It should take you about the same or less. This is sooo much

Re: [google-appengine] Mail API Quotas

2016-10-18 Thread PK
+1 for Joshua’s comment. Nick, wrt "We always encourage users to make use of the Public Issue Tracker “ the issue is issue 10560 stuck in state “New” for 2.5 years like 100s maybe thousands other issues in the public tracker.

Re: [google-appengine] Mail API Quotas

2016-10-18 Thread Joshua Smith
Nick, I know you are stuck in the apologist position, and there’s nothing you can do about it, but come on… It is positively absurd that GAE doesn’t include any bulk email capability. If you guys are concerned about spammers abusing the service, just charge a penny per email sent or

Re: [google-appengine] Mail API Quotas

2016-10-18 Thread 'Nick (Cloud Platform Support)' via Google App Engine
Hey PK and Kaan, I hear your concerns. I hope that I can moderate worries by saying the following in regard to each of the points you brought up: *1. Avoid paying for attachment bits through front-end* While the GCS integration to Mail API attachments will be discussed in the next point,

Re: [google-appengine] Mail API Quotas

2016-10-17 Thread Kaan Soral
Good thing we are locked-in for life to App Engine. Using App Engine for maybe 6 years, It's part of me Seeing this announcement, and practically experiencing the roadblock, devastates me The beauty of App Engine comes from it's unity, when you take a vital part of that unity out and kill it,

Re: [google-appengine] Mail API Quotas

2016-03-15 Thread PK
The GAE Mail Service is not perfect but does not suck either. It has been working great for us with one major exception. Our customers use e-mail with attachments heavily. Moving e-mail attachment bits through the front end overwhelms our instances. Instead of cancelling the GAE mail service

Re: [google-appengine] Mail API Quotas

2016-03-15 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
I’m *very* happy to see this announcement. There’s no technical advantage to having mail builtin to GAE and it’s a waste of developer resources that would be better spent building the things that aren’t cheap commodity services. I want new features for the datastore, a more responsive console,

Re: [google-appengine] Mail API Quotas

2016-03-15 Thread PK
Sorry Friday this week is not a good day for me PK p...@gae123.com > On Mar 4, 2016, at 1:15 PM, Joshua Smith wrote: > > Today one of our sales guys asked if I could do anything about the fact that > emails he sends from Salesforce are being blocked by clients and

Re: [google-appengine] Mail API Quotas

2016-03-04 Thread Joshua Smith
Today one of our sales guys asked if I could do anything about the fact that emails he sends from Salesforce are being blocked by clients and prospects because they are coming from a “spam” IP. I look at the IP address, and sure enough: SendGrid. I’m *SO* happy my apps are grandfathered into