Re: [h-cost] Equestrian costuming other period tack

2006-03-09 Thread Kate M Bunting
I searched the archive http://sca.uwaterloo.ca/Fashion/ for this year under hunting and found the thread. The picture is http://www.costumes.org/history/leloir/vol10/48_1692.jpg Kate Bunting Librarian and 17th century reenactor [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/03/2006 23:20 Thanks, Kate. Any one have

Re: [h-cost] Sorry for this, testing but also latest projects if you are bored.

2006-03-09 Thread michaela
Kia ora Bjarne, Sorry for the delay a nasty stomache bug made me very ill for the last 48 hours, I'm back to being able to email again! Latest projects are: http://costumes.glittersweet.com/phantom/wishing.htm http://costumes.glittersweet.com/dracula/2mina.htm

Re: [h-cost] what do renaissance seamen look like?

2006-03-09 Thread Danielle Nunn-Weinberg
Well, if you're interested in the middle of the 16th century, we have a bit of an idea of what was worn on the Mary Rose, which sank in 1545. There were a number of leather jerkins found, as well as some wool garment fragments, some wool flat caps, leather shoes... that sort of thing. The

[h-cost] dilemma ahhhhhhhhhhh.

2006-03-09 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
Hi, I just got an enquiry from a museum. Because this year it is renaissance year, a museum has purchased money to get 2 costumes done. I am asked to do them. I would make a dress after a portrait of Queen Sophie (the queen they remade the wedding dress for) - as a widow. A black dress, small

Re: [h-cost] Equestrian costuming other period tack

2006-03-09 Thread Susan Data-Samtak
Thanks, Kate. Since I am new to this group, I must have just missed the January discussion of Sidesaddle and clothing. Does anyone know if the person doing that research for a paper on women's equestrian clothing, as mentioned in the archive, has written the paper or is it still in

Re: [h-cost] dilemma ahhhhhhhhhhh.

2006-03-09 Thread Sue Clemenger
Oh go for it, Bjarne! You *know* you want to! grin What a wonderful opportunity! Besides, they don't sound as complicated as some of the wonderful stuff you've shown us over the years, and, heck, you wouldn't have to worry about shipping it overseas, or wierd fitting issues, or anything! --Sue in

Re: [h-cost] dilemma ahhhhhhhhhhh.

2006-03-09 Thread ruthanneb
Bravo, Bjarne. What a fitting recognition for your wonderful skills and accomplishments! You sound as if you're very tempted. These projects sound like something a bit new for you, a chance to stretch... You COULD tell yourself that garments for exhibition aren't QUITE costumes...and so you

Re: [h-cost] Equestrian costuming other period tack

2006-03-09 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
I have some portraits with riding costume like this print, 2 to be more precise. Bjarne - Original Message - From: Kate M Bunting [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Equestrian costuming other period tack I searched

Re: [h-cost] dilemma ahhhhhhhhhhh.

2006-03-09 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
It is very tempting. The style of this gown is late renaissance. With a farthingale a little bigger than the original in the spanish book. More like a crinoline style. White underskirt is slashed, and overdress has a small peplum skirt over the top. Ruff is edged with reticella lace and is not

[h-cost] mitts

2006-03-09 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
Hi, I am working on making mitts with floral embroidery. I use a pattern from Williamsburg. Made a muck up wich fits my hand very nicely, i have small hands, so i guess they would fit a woman two. My question is wich stitches do you use to make these? And is the lining made seperate and

Re: [h-cost] Equestrian costuming other period tack

2006-03-09 Thread Kate M Bunting
Well, the caption says it's a hunting costume, and the coat, neckcloth, hairstyle and hat are copies from those worn by men at that time. A few decades earlier Samuel Pepys commented on the new fashion for ladies' riding outfits with the upper garments for all the world like mine but with a

Re: [h-cost] dilemma ahhhhhhhhhhh.

2006-03-09 Thread AlbertCat
In a message dated 3/9/2006 10:15:32 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What a tremendous compliment!! It might be worth doing if they pay well enough. Then again, the type of work you do is priceless:) Exactly! Demand they pay for a competent assistant!

Re: [h-cost] dilemma ahhhhhhhhhhh.

2006-03-09 Thread E House
Three months? Oww. Is this the portrait of Queen Sophie you'd be doing? http://www.rosenborgslot.dk/images/pics/a07375wl.jpg (different cap color, but I couldn't find anything else in a quick search) Do you know what the whole dress would look like already? The wedding dress is over 30 years

Re: [h-cost] Equestrian costuming other period tack

2006-03-09 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
A hunting suit like this would have ben worn on special occations like hunting with the king and queen. Masculine fashion like this was only used for hunting. The tricorne, her Steinkirke cravate, the jacket with the big cuffs, the way the buttonholes are worked and all the buttons. At this

Re: [h-cost] dilemma ahhhhhhhhhhh.

2006-03-09 Thread AlbertCat
In a message dated 3/9/2006 10:35:36 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The style of this gown is late renaissance. She wears a hood wich is curved in each side of the forehead, black edged with lace. A widow's peak. And the Prince's outfit

[h-cost] Ruff - was Bjarne's dilemma

2006-03-09 Thread Suzi Clarke
At 15:43 09/03/2006, you wrote: Three months? Oww. Is this the portrait of Queen Sophie you'd be doing? http://www.rosenborgslot.dk/images/pics/a07375wl.jpg (different cap color, but I couldn't find anything else in a quick search) Do you know what the whole dress would look like already?

Re: [h-cost] dilemma ahhhhhhhhhhh.

2006-03-09 Thread AlbertCat
In a message dated 3/9/2006 10:44:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.rosenborgslot.dk/images/pics/a07375wl.jpg What a bizzare ruff! A ruff inside a ruff! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com

Re: [h-cost] dilemma ahhhhhhhhhhh.

2006-03-09 Thread AlbertCat
In a message dated 3/9/2006 10:44:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: _http://www.rosenborgslot.dk/images/pics/a03034wl.jpg_ (http://www.rosenborgslot.dk/images/pics/a03034wl.jpg) I imagined the prince as a boylike an adolescent. Oh well.

Re: [h-cost] dilemma ahhhhhhhhhhh.

2006-03-09 Thread Becky
It's not as complicated as it looks. Make a ruff with 2 layers. Form a main ruff that has all layers. When that is properly spaced. bring the inside ruff down into points inside the loops of the outter fabric. It's like origami. I can visualize it but may not explain it well. - Original

Re: [h-cost] Ruff - was Bjarne's dilemma

2006-03-09 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
I have a photo i took at the museum some time ago, i could post it if you want, but it is a portrait wich hangs very high up, so the angle of the photo is not good, but it gives you an idea. The princes outfit is like a small adult with hat and feathers. Its red and slashed. Anyway just posted

[h-cost] what do renaissance seamen look like?

2006-03-09 Thread Julie
The temptation to make a rude pun is almost overwhelming...but I'll resist G They would wear what everyone else would wear. There was no particular uniform of a pirate. I looked into this when my huibby was giving me grief about dressing up. What we think of as pirates is out of

Re: [h-cost] mitts

2006-03-09 Thread Chiara Francesca Arianna d'Onofrio
Are you overlapping the seams or are you sewing the right sides together and then turning them over? I have a one sheet example of stitches used through the periods for gloves that I can share with you. It is from observational research as I am not able to go to the various overseas museums that

Re: [h-cost] dilemma ahhhhhhhhhhh.

2006-03-09 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
No worries Albertcat, its not the prince, but the queen you see in the portrait from Rosenborg. I dont have a picture of the prince to share right now, but i know the portrait, its a boy dressed in a red doublet with trunkhoses. All the costume is slashed and the hat wich i dont know how i

[h-cost] New pattern

2006-03-09 Thread Five Rivers Chapmanry
Thought some of you who re-enact Victorian and Dickens eras would be interested in the new pattern from Laughing Moon (I'm just waiting for my new stock to arrive). It's the Hoops and Bustles package, LM112. Looks like another fabulous addition to this premiere line of patterns. For

[h-cost] RE: what do renaissance seamen look like?

2006-03-09 Thread Marc Carlson
From: Danielle Nunn-Weinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, if you're interested in the middle of the 16th century, we have a bit of an idea of what was worn on the Mary Rose, which sank in 1545. There were a number of leather jerkins found, as well as some wool garment fragments, some wool flat caps,

Re: [h-cost] mitts

2006-03-09 Thread Chiara Francesca Arianna d'Onofrio
So long as you are not using a glover's needle backstitcing is fine. The glovers needle has that three sided cutting edge to it for leather and will cut the thread. For the thumb, you want to put that in first. You can do an overlap seam for that if you wish. That is, place the thumb piece inside

Re: [h-cost] mitts

2006-03-09 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
Dear Dhiara, Many thanks for your help. I want to make them in ivory silk taffeta. You can see the design i made here, with colours of embroiderysilks: http://www.my-drewscostumes.dk/purse.htm Scroll down to the buttom. I want to make the outer layer in silk taffeta, and a shite silk satin wich

Re: [h-cost] Equestrian costuming other period tack

2006-03-09 Thread Dawn
Bjarne og Leif Drews wrote: A hunting suit like this would have ben worn on special occations like hunting with the king and queen. Masculine fashion like this was only used for hunting. The tricorne, her Steinkirke cravate, the jacket with the big cuffs, the way the buttonholes are worked

Re: [h-cost] Equestrian costuming other period tack

2006-03-09 Thread Suzi Clarke
At 18:14 09/03/2006, you wrote: Bjarne og Leif Drews wrote: A hunting suit like this would have ben worn on special occations like hunting with the king and queen. Masculine fashion like this was only used for hunting. The tricorne, her Steinkirke cravate, the jacket with the big cuffs, the

Re: [h-cost] Equestrian costuming other period tack

2006-03-09 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
Dear Dawn, I dont think i have ever seen the portraits made after these prints. But it could be, that they are real fashion prints. There was a series in the 1680ies called Mercure Gallante, wich showed handcoloured fashion prints. I have photographed all they have at the museum of fine arts

RE: [h-cost] dilemma ahhhhhhhhhhh.

2006-03-09 Thread Sharon at Collierfam.com
Are you looking for patterns? Sharon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bjarne og Leif Drews Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 8:21 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] dilemma ahhh. No worries Albertcat, its not the prince,

Re: [h-cost] Equestrian costuming other period tack

2006-03-09 Thread michaela
A hunting suit like this would have ben worn on special occations like hunting with the king and queen. Masculine fashion like this was only used for hunting. I was wondering what your thoughts on this costume were: http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B4YWXG.01._SCLZZZ_.jpg It's the

Re: [h-cost] New pattern

2006-03-09 Thread Deredere Galbraith
Somehow I find the hoops and bustles a bit weird looking. I am not sure what it is. Five Rivers Chapmanry wrote: Thought some of you who re-enact Victorian and Dickens eras would be interested in the new pattern from Laughing Moon (I'm just waiting for my new stock to arrive). It's

Re: [h-cost] dilemma ahhhhhhhhhhh.

2006-03-09 Thread Debloughcostumes
There's only really one question to answer - do you really want to do the outfits? If you do then go for it, because you'll only regret it afterwards if you don't. And the worst thing would be to end up thinking 'what if I had...'. Well that's what I always tell myself when I take orders for

Re: [h-cost] mitts

2006-03-09 Thread Franchesca
Beautiful as always Bjarne! The lining is attached at the finger tips for gloves. The same would apply here. Attach at the top of the mitt and at the top of the thumb. Then attach it at the cuff. Leave the side seams unattached. Make sure you allow the fabric for the mitt and the lining to hang

Re: [h-cost] Equestrian costuming other period tack

2006-03-09 Thread Suzi Clarke
At 18:14 09/03/2006, you wrote: Bjarne og Leif Drews wrote: A hunting suit like this would have ben worn on special occations like hunting with the king and queen. Masculine fashion like this was only used for hunting. The tricorne, her Steinkirke cravate, the jacket with the big cuffs, the

Re: [h-cost] New pattern

2006-03-09 Thread Lloyd Mitchell
These hoops and bustles are wonderful, Lorena! I have the first one and the last as antiques and you have made them up just as they should be. The last one differs only from mine in that the train part button of mine buttons onto the hem of the main hoop shape. Bravo Kathleen - Original

Re: [h-cost] New pattern

2006-03-09 Thread AlbertCat
In a message dated 3/9/2006 7:47:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Somehow I find the hoops and bustles a bit weird looking. I am not sure what it is. * Me too. The only thing I can put my finger on is, the oblong hoop needs a pad at

RE: [h-cost] dilemma ahhhhhhhhhhh.

2006-03-09 Thread Sharon at Collierfam.com
These also might be easier because the fit doesn't have to be as fussy as when it's for a live person. Dress forms don't complain. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 7:06 AM To: Historical

RE: [h-cost] Ruff - was Bjarne's dilemma

2006-03-09 Thread Sharon at Collierfam.com
Looking at the ruff, it may be that the painter just made up the ruff pattern, so it kind of looked like the real ruff. Remember, it's a painting, not a photo, and there is probably a bit of creative license. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

RE: [h-cost] dilemma ahhhhhhhhhhh.

2006-03-09 Thread Sharon at Collierfam.com
OK, that makes sense, but what a lot of work! Lovely, though. Gives me an idea for my costume... Sharon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Becky Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 7:58 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] dilemma

[h-cost] RE bizarre ruff was : dilemma ahhhhhhhhhhh.

2006-03-09 Thread otsisto
It looks like 3 layers with one thick layer between two sheer layers -Original Message- http://www.rosenborgslot.dk/images/pics/a07375wl.jpg What a bizzare ruff! A ruff inside a ruff! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com

RE: [h-cost] Ruff - was Bjarne's dilemma

2006-03-09 Thread Wanda Pease
Looking at this ruff I actually see three layers. One big outer layer, then two ruched together so that one fills the top arches of the large ruff and the other fills the bottom. Of course, all the layers may actually be the same size and you get the rather heart shape of the inner layers as

Re: [h-cost] Equestrian costuming other period tack

2006-03-09 Thread michaela
In one of my costume books wich is in danish, dont know the english title, it is written by an italian lady called Mila Contini, there is a portrait very like the same style, of Marie Adelaide de Savoye, duchesse of Burgundy. Its painted in the last part of 17th century, red with gold laces.

[h-cost] Ruff RE: dilemma ahhhhhhhhhhh.

2006-03-09 Thread otsisto
To achieve the look you need 3 layers. Otherwise it will only have the heart frills in the top loops or the bottom. You will need to have excess of the frill material to achieve the desired effect. De -Original Message- It's not as complicated as it looks. Make a ruff with 2 layers.