I searched the archive http://sca.uwaterloo.ca/Fashion/ for this year under
hunting and found the thread. The picture is
http://www.costumes.org/history/leloir/vol10/48_1692.jpg
Kate Bunting
Librarian and 17th century reenactor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/03/2006 23:20
Thanks, Kate.
Any one have
Kia ora Bjarne, Sorry for the delay a nasty stomache bug made me very ill
for the last 48 hours, I'm back to being able to email again!
Latest projects are:
http://costumes.glittersweet.com/phantom/wishing.htm
http://costumes.glittersweet.com/dracula/2mina.htm
Well, if you're interested in the middle of the 16th century, we have
a bit of an idea of what was worn on the Mary Rose, which sank in
1545. There were a number of leather jerkins found, as well as some
wool garment fragments, some wool flat caps, leather shoes... that
sort of thing. The
Hi,
I just got an enquiry from a museum. Because this year it is renaissance
year, a museum has purchased money to get 2 costumes done. I am asked to do
them. I would make a dress after a portrait of Queen Sophie (the queen they
remade the wedding dress for) - as a widow. A black dress, small
Thanks, Kate.
Since I am new to this group, I must have just missed the January
discussion of Sidesaddle and clothing.
Does anyone know if the person doing that research for a paper on
women's equestrian clothing, as mentioned in the archive, has written
the paper or is it still in
Oh go for it, Bjarne! You *know* you want to! grin What a wonderful
opportunity! Besides, they don't sound as complicated as some of the
wonderful stuff you've shown us over the years, and, heck, you wouldn't have
to worry about shipping it overseas, or wierd fitting issues, or anything!
--Sue in
Bravo, Bjarne. What a fitting recognition for your wonderful skills and
accomplishments!
You sound as if you're very tempted.
These projects sound like something a bit new for you, a chance to stretch...
You COULD tell yourself that garments for exhibition aren't QUITE
costumes...and so you
I have some portraits with riding costume like this print, 2 to be more
precise.
Bjarne
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I searched
It is very tempting.
The style of this gown is late renaissance. With a farthingale a little
bigger than the original in the spanish book. More like a crinoline style.
White underskirt is slashed, and overdress has a small peplum skirt over
the top. Ruff is edged with reticella lace and is not
Hi,
I am working on making mitts with floral embroidery. I use a pattern from
Williamsburg. Made a muck up wich fits my hand very nicely, i have small
hands, so i guess they would fit a woman two. My question is wich stitches
do you use to make these? And is the lining made seperate and
Well, the caption says it's a hunting costume, and the coat, neckcloth,
hairstyle and hat are copies from those worn by men at that time. A few decades
earlier Samuel Pepys commented on the new fashion for ladies' riding outfits
with the upper garments for all the world like mine but with a
In a message dated 3/9/2006 10:15:32 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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What a tremendous compliment!! It might be worth doing if they pay well
enough. Then again, the type of work you do is priceless:)
Exactly!
Demand they pay for a competent assistant!
Three months? Oww. Is this the portrait of Queen Sophie you'd be doing?
http://www.rosenborgslot.dk/images/pics/a07375wl.jpg (different cap color,
but I couldn't find anything else in a quick search)
Do you know what the whole dress would look like already? The wedding dress
is over 30 years
A hunting suit like this would have ben worn on special occations like
hunting with the king and queen. Masculine fashion like this was only used
for hunting. The tricorne, her Steinkirke cravate, the jacket with the big
cuffs, the way the buttonholes are worked and all the buttons. At this
In a message dated 3/9/2006 10:35:36 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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The style of this gown is late renaissance.
She wears a hood wich is curved in each side of the
forehead, black edged with lace.
A widow's peak.
And the Prince's outfit
At 15:43 09/03/2006, you wrote:
Three months? Oww. Is this the portrait of Queen Sophie you'd be doing?
http://www.rosenborgslot.dk/images/pics/a07375wl.jpg (different cap
color, but I couldn't find anything else in a quick search)
Do you know what the whole dress would look like already?
In a message dated 3/9/2006 10:44:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
http://www.rosenborgslot.dk/images/pics/a07375wl.jpg
What a bizzare ruff! A ruff inside a ruff!
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In a message dated 3/9/2006 10:44:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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_http://www.rosenborgslot.dk/images/pics/a03034wl.jpg_
(http://www.rosenborgslot.dk/images/pics/a03034wl.jpg)
I imagined the prince as a boylike an adolescent. Oh well.
It's not as complicated as it looks. Make a ruff with 2 layers. Form a main
ruff that has all layers. When that is properly spaced. bring the inside
ruff down into points inside the loops of the outter fabric. It's like
origami. I can visualize it but may not explain it well.
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I have a photo i took at the museum some time ago, i could post it if you
want, but it is a portrait wich hangs very high up, so the angle of the
photo is not good, but it gives you an idea.
The princes outfit is like a small adult with hat and feathers. Its red and
slashed.
Anyway just posted
The temptation to make a rude pun is almost overwhelming...but I'll resist
G
They would wear what everyone else would wear. There was no particular
uniform of a pirate. I looked into this when my huibby was giving me
grief about dressing up. What we think of as pirates is out of
Are you overlapping the seams or are you sewing the right sides
together and then turning them over?
I have a one sheet example of stitches used through the periods for
gloves that I can share with you. It is from observational research
as I am not able to go to the various overseas museums that
No worries Albertcat, its not the prince, but the queen you see in the
portrait from Rosenborg. I dont have a picture of the prince to share right
now, but i know the portrait, its a boy dressed in a red doublet with
trunkhoses. All the costume is slashed and the hat wich i dont know how i
Thought some of you who re-enact Victorian and Dickens eras
would be interested in the new pattern from Laughing Moon (I'm just waiting
for my new stock to arrive). It's the Hoops and Bustles package, LM112.
Looks like another fabulous addition to this premiere line of patterns. For
From: Danielle Nunn-Weinberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well, if you're interested in the middle of the 16th century, we have
a bit of an idea of what was worn on the Mary Rose, which sank in
1545. There were a number of leather jerkins found, as well as some
wool garment fragments, some wool flat caps,
So long as you are not using a glover's needle backstitcing is fine.
The glovers needle has that three sided cutting edge to it for
leather and will cut the thread.
For the thumb, you want to put that in first. You can do an overlap
seam for that if you wish. That is, place the thumb piece inside
Dear Dhiara,
Many thanks for your help.
I want to make them in ivory silk taffeta. You can see the design i made
here, with colours of embroiderysilks:
http://www.my-drewscostumes.dk/purse.htm
Scroll down to the buttom.
I want to make the outer layer in silk taffeta, and a shite silk satin wich
Bjarne og Leif Drews wrote:
A hunting suit like this would have ben worn on special occations like
hunting with the king and queen. Masculine fashion like this was only
used for hunting. The tricorne, her Steinkirke cravate, the jacket with
the big cuffs, the way the buttonholes are worked
At 18:14 09/03/2006, you wrote:
Bjarne og Leif Drews wrote:
A hunting suit like this would have ben worn on special occations
like hunting with the king and queen. Masculine fashion like this
was only used for hunting. The tricorne, her Steinkirke cravate,
the jacket with the big cuffs, the
Dear Dawn,
I dont think i have ever seen the portraits made after these prints. But it
could be, that they are real fashion prints. There was a series in the
1680ies called Mercure Gallante, wich showed handcoloured fashion prints. I
have photographed all they have at the museum of fine arts
Are you looking for patterns?
Sharon
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Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 8:21 AM
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Subject: Re: [h-cost] dilemma ahhh.
No worries Albertcat, its not the prince,
A hunting suit like this would have ben worn on special occations like
hunting with the king and queen. Masculine fashion like this was only used
for hunting.
I was wondering what your thoughts on this costume were:
http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B4YWXG.01._SCLZZZ_.jpg
It's the
Somehow I find the hoops and bustles a bit weird looking.
I am not sure what it is.
Five Rivers Chapmanry wrote:
Thought some of you who re-enact Victorian and Dickens eras
would be interested in the new pattern from Laughing Moon (I'm just waiting
for my new stock to arrive). It's
There's only really one question to answer - do you really want to do the
outfits?
If you do then go for it, because you'll only regret it afterwards if you
don't.
And the worst thing would be to end up thinking 'what if I had...'.
Well that's what I always tell myself when I take orders for
Beautiful as always Bjarne!
The lining is attached at the finger tips for gloves. The same would
apply here. Attach at the top of the mitt and at the top of the
thumb. Then attach it at the cuff. Leave the side seams unattached.
Make sure you allow the fabric for the mitt and the lining to hang
At 18:14 09/03/2006, you wrote:
Bjarne og Leif Drews wrote:
A hunting suit like this would have ben worn on special occations
like hunting with the king and queen. Masculine fashion like this
was only used for hunting. The tricorne, her Steinkirke cravate,
the jacket with the big cuffs, the
These hoops and bustles are wonderful, Lorena! I have the first one and the
last as antiques and you have made them up just as they should be. The last
one differs only from mine in that the train part button of mine buttons
onto the hem of the main hoop shape. Bravo
Kathleen
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In a message dated 3/9/2006 7:47:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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Somehow I find the hoops and bustles a bit weird looking.
I am not sure what it is.
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Me too.
The only thing I can put my finger on is, the oblong hoop needs a pad at
These also might be easier because the fit doesn't have to be as fussy as
when it's for a live person. Dress forms don't complain.
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Looking at the ruff, it may be that the painter just made up the ruff
pattern, so it kind of looked like the real ruff. Remember, it's a
painting, not a photo, and there is probably a bit of creative license.
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OK, that makes sense, but what a lot of work! Lovely, though. Gives me an
idea for my costume...
Sharon
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It looks like 3 layers with one thick layer between two sheer layers
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http://www.rosenborgslot.dk/images/pics/a07375wl.jpg
What a bizzare ruff! A ruff inside a ruff!
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Looking at this ruff I actually see three layers. One big outer layer, then
two ruched together so that one fills the top arches of the large ruff and
the other fills the bottom. Of course, all the layers may actually be the
same size and you get the rather heart shape of the inner layers as
In one of my costume books wich is in danish, dont know the english title,
it is written by an italian lady called Mila Contini, there is a portrait
very like the same style, of Marie Adelaide de Savoye, duchesse of
Burgundy.
Its painted in the last part of 17th century, red with gold laces.
To achieve the look you need 3 layers. Otherwise it will only have the heart
frills in the top loops or the bottom.
You will need to have excess of the frill material to achieve the desired
effect.
De
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It's not as complicated as it looks. Make a ruff with 2 layers.
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