Re: [h-cost] size for a test swatch
Elizabeth Walpole wrote: So for those who regularly wash a test swatch how big do you cut yours? I try to get a couple of inches, and I measure it exactly. I'll trim it square with a rotary cutter on a gridded mat to be sure of the size. Then I can measure it again after it's washed and see what it does. With silk I'd expect shrinkage. Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] boning and steel
Canadians, (Torontonians in particular) have another option as well in MacDonald Faber http://macdonaldfaber.com/ a tailoring supply house. They also have some millinery supplies as well. Before I had moved to the States, I found their prices better than Farthingale's. Just my opinion. Cheers, Danielle At 09:08 AM 4/8/2007, you wrote: for the canadians out there, Farthingales.on.ca http://farthingales.ca is definetely your best choice. They are incredibly well stocked, sell by the piece or by the metre, and sell other stuff like busks, fabric and lacing too. K of indigolily.ca ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] pleated trim question.
I am a little unsertain how i should cut the panels for the trims on this dress i am making: http://www.my-drewscostumes.dk/sofie3.htm I want to make small box pleats, but i wondered if the trim should be cut in the height or could i just cut it out in the breath? Sorry if i misspelled the words. Jean Hunniset says that its not nescesary to cut that much fabric for trim. She says 11/2 or 2 times the lengt, but i think i should use at least 3 times the lenght. I have plenty of fabric for the dress, so i dont have to be carefull. I am using a little tiny gold trim in the edge, wich is wired, so its easy to make the pleats. What would your suggestions be? Thanks for any answers. Bjarne Leif og Bjarne Drews www.my-drewscostumes.dk http://home0.inet.tele.dk/drewscph/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Movie influences on fashion - shoes
There is nothing like a child in period costume. I get weak in my knees, every time i see it. And if i had children, they would have loads of costumes i had made for them. Bjarne - Original Message - From: Sue Clemenger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 3:39 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Movie influences on fashion - shoes Speaking of historical influences, when I was at brunch with friends this past Sunday, we saw the cutest little girl (7 or 8), wearing the most adorable child's version of an 18th century gown, complete with petticoat. The rest of the family was in ordinary good clothes, and she was in her best dress. (Nicely done, too, from what I can tell without being an expert in the time) --Sue - Original Message - From: WickedFrau [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Historical Costume' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 4:30 PM Subject: RE: [h-cost] Movie influences on fashion - shoes Irrespective of all that, I think it is cool to see the influence on modern dress. Complete accuracy aside, it is a fun discovery when you find something that may pass for a period shoe. Sg ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Movie influences on fashion - shoes
Can I volunteer? You can adopt me! :) (Unfortunately, I'm a bit beyond the child stage; oh, well.) Susan in Austin - Original Message - From: Bjarne og Leif Drews [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 3:43 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Movie influences on fashion - shoes There is nothing like a child in period costume. I get weak in my knees, every time i see it. And if i had children, they would have loads of costumes i had made for them. Bjarne - Original Message - From: Sue Clemenger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 3:39 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Movie influences on fashion - shoes Speaking of historical influences, when I was at brunch with friends this past Sunday, we saw the cutest little girl (7 or 8), wearing the most adorable child's version of an 18th century gown, complete with petticoat. The rest of the family was in ordinary good clothes, and she was in her best dress. (Nicely done, too, from what I can tell without being an expert in the time) --Sue - Original Message - From: WickedFrau [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Historical Costume' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 4:30 PM Subject: RE: [h-cost] Movie influences on fashion - shoes Irrespective of all that, I think it is cool to see the influence on modern dress. Complete accuracy aside, it is a fun discovery when you find something that may pass for a period shoe. Sg ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] pleated trim question.
At 09:30 10/04/2007, you wrote: I am a little unsertain how i should cut the panels for the trims on this dress i am making: http://www.my-drewscostumes.dk/sofie3.htm I want to make small box pleats, but i wondered if the trim should be cut in the height or could i just cut it out in the breath? Sorry if i misspelled the words. Jean Hunniset says that its not nescesary to cut that much fabric for trim. She says 11/2 or 2 times the lengt, but i think i should use at least 3 times the lenght. If you are making box pleats, Hunnisett says that you should use 3 times the length, I.5 to 2 times is for gathers. It really doesn't matter whether you cut across the fabric width or down the length, unless you have a shot fabric, in which case you need to decide which way according to how the colour changes. (Sometimes you want the contrast.) Many trimmings on original garments are made up from scraps of leftover material, so if it is not a shot fabric you can use it both ways. I have plenty of fabric for the dress, so i dont have to be carefull. I am using a little tiny gold trim in the edge, wich is wired, so its easy to make the pleats. Incidentally I used a wired trim for one dress I made, and hated the way it looked when finished, so took it all off, pulled out the wire and did it all again! (Must have been mad!) Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] pleated trim question.
Dear Suzi, Again you have ben very helpfull. Many thanks for your answer. My taffeta isnt shot, so i guess it doesnt matter. I did play with the wired goldtrim and made small sampler trims and i liked the way mine is looking, so ill just use it. To tell the truth, the trim is just a christmas pressent ribbon, but it looks very nice, and i baught yards and yards of it. Its because it has the look of antique gold, and not the shiny man made fiber crap you find in trim stores. Oh gosh its going to be so boring to make all that pleated trim, it has trim all over Bjarne - Original Message - From: Suzi Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] pleated trim question. At 09:30 10/04/2007, you wrote: I am a little unsertain how i should cut the panels for the trims on this dress i am making: http://www.my-drewscostumes.dk/sofie3.htm I want to make small box pleats, but i wondered if the trim should be cut in the height or could i just cut it out in the breath? Sorry if i misspelled the words. Jean Hunniset says that its not nescesary to cut that much fabric for trim. She says 11/2 or 2 times the lengt, but i think i should use at least 3 times the lenght. If you are making box pleats, Hunnisett says that you should use 3 times the length, I.5 to 2 times is for gathers. It really doesn't matter whether you cut across the fabric width or down the length, unless you have a shot fabric, in which case you need to decide which way according to how the colour changes. (Sometimes you want the contrast.) Many trimmings on original garments are made up from scraps of leftover material, so if it is not a shot fabric you can use it both ways. I have plenty of fabric for the dress, so i dont have to be carefull. I am using a little tiny gold trim in the edge, wich is wired, so its easy to make the pleats. Incidentally I used a wired trim for one dress I made, and hated the way it looked when finished, so took it all off, pulled out the wire and did it all again! (Must have been mad!) Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] size for a test swatch
Dawn wrote: Elizabeth Walpole wrote: So for those who regularly wash a test swatch how big do you cut yours? I try to get a couple of inches, and I measure it exactly. I'll trim it square with a rotary cutter on a gridded mat to be sure of the size. Then I can measure it again after it's washed and see what it does. With silk I'd expect shrinkage. I'd also expect the fabric to lose a lot of its crispness and get rather softer and limper. I've seen this happen to a friend's brocade. One of the things I love about silk brocade is how much body it has, but if you want it drapey, washing will do that. For a Tudor gown, you might be better off with a crisper hand. Melanie Schuessler ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Movie influences on fashion - shoes
That's entirely possible--it had the look of a really good costume--nice design, and whoever sewed it did a nice job as well (and fabric choice--some sort of crisp cotton in a non-inappropriate color). I'm not really familiar with what's available, commercially, for children, though, so I couldn't say for sure. I've heard of the whole American Girl thing (dolls and books and all), but that's about it. --Sue - Original Message - From: Sharon Collier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Historical Costume' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 9:43 PM Subject: RE: [h-cost] Movie influences on fashion - shoes Was she perhaps wearing an American Girl dress, Felicity reproduction? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sue Clemenger Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 6:40 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Movie influences on fashion - shoes Speaking of historical influences, when I was at brunch with friends this past Sunday, we saw the cutest little girl (7 or 8), wearing the most adorable child's version of an 18th century gown, complete with petticoat. The rest of the family was in ordinary good clothes, and she was in her best dress. (Nicely done, too, from what I can tell without being an expert in the time) --Sue ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] size for a test swatch
Melanie Schuessler wrote: I'd also expect the fabric to lose a lot of its crispness and get rather softer and limper. I've seen this happen to a friend's brocade. One of the things I love about silk brocade is how much body it has, but if you want it drapey, washing will do that. For a Tudor gown, you might be better off with a crisper hand. You don't have to *wash* it to pre-shrink it, though. Just getting silk wet will cause it to shrink. When I did my wedding gown, I just laid the folded yardage in the tub -- after testing a swatch -- and it kept its crispness. Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] pleated trim question.
In a message dated 4/10/2007 7:28:45 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you are making box pleats, Hunnisett says that you should use 3 times the length, I.5 to 2 times is for gathers. ** Yes, as you already know, I'm sure, 3 times the length for full-return pleats. But some trims are not full-return and have a skimpy...but desirable lighter look. I'd do a little experiment with a length to see what you like. On Last of the Mohicans the cutter of Madeline Stowe's gown told me it's better not to sew the lengths cut for the pleating together but to disguise the separate sections in the pleating as you sew it to the gown...y'know, end one length with the edge folded under at a pleat and the edge of the next length slipped under thatthen start pleating again. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re: h-costume Digest, Vol 6, Issue 150
Suzanne said:... and if I ever go to another CostumeCon, I'll be sure to bring Conan the Librarian along, too! (Where else could I get away with that?) You could do it at any library conference in North America, believe me, we'd adore it! Mary Periodicals Department Stark County District Library 715 Market Ave. N. Canton, Ohio 44702-1018 (330)452-0665 x 5750 [EMAIL PROTECTED] We don't have issues... we have subscriptions. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] pleated trim question.
In a message dated 4/10/2007 8:28:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh gosh its going to be so boring to make all that pleated trim, it has trim all over ** Where ARE your assistants when you need them ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] pleated trim question.
Yes i think its the best to do two. Jean Hunniset says the same. Bjarne - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] pleated trim question. In a message dated 4/10/2007 7:28:45 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you are making box pleats, Hunnisett says that you should use 3 times the length, I.5 to 2 times is for gathers. ** Yes, as you already know, I'm sure, 3 times the length for full-return pleats. But some trims are not full-return and have a skimpy...but desirable lighter look. I'd do a little experiment with a length to see what you like. On Last of the Mohicans the cutter of Madeline Stowe's gown told me it's better not to sew the lengths cut for the pleating together but to disguise the separate sections in the pleating as you sew it to the gown...y'know, end one length with the edge folded under at a pleat and the edge of the next length slipped under thatthen start pleating again. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Elegant courtlife of Frederik V
I went to a lecture today with Katia Johansen the curator of the textile department at Rosenborg. Rosenborg has one of the worlds best collection of royal clothes from 17th to 20th century. The lecture was pure candy for me, i have never enjoyed anything better than this. Examples of the fashions in 18th century was shown on pictures and later we went to the museum to se the exhibition. Livrustkammaren in Stockholm had borrowed us the weddingdress of Sofia Magdalena, an exquisit french courtdress for the year 1766. Sofia Magdalena married the old danish enimy Swedens king Gustav III and nothing was saved in expense to show the swedes how rich we were. Her weddingdress wich was thoaght to have ben made in Paris was lately discovered, to be made in Copenhagen. They found the bill and the tailors notes. The highlight of the lecture was supposed to be the showing of a copy of her pannier worn beneath the dress, and the female ordiense was allowed to try it on. Never have i ben more dissapointed and embarrased, you should have seen that pannier! It was a total bummer! What was supposed to be the support at the waistlevel to the sides, was some large oval hoops hanging from the waist at the knee level. It was a bad mistake. How on earth Katia Johansen could let this happend, gives me no idea, the show was a total blast. In the bill there is mentioned 80 bouquets of silver flowers in different sizes, the price of the bouquets is doubble as much as the dress, but all these flowers is missing on the dress, and the mystery is that there is no traces of sewing in the dress fabric. So what was these flowers used for? Nobody have any ideas about it. I saw Christian VII's banyan, wich was a love affair to me, made in floral brokade, but the flowers was not in colloured threads, in stead the flowers was painted after the fabric had ben wowen. It has a japanese cut, very simple, but have european style with collar and belt and pockets. Belt is sewn to the back and buttons with 2 buttons center front. If i had somewhere to wear such a thing, i would make it! I also watched Frederik V's wedding suit embroidered all over with gold, made in velvet, and many other suits. The highlight of the gentlemens suits was Christian VII's weddingsuit (wich Mauritia Kirchner copyed), very interresting to se the original. I think all the gold embroidery was made on a thin fabric first, and the appliqued on the garment after, because i noticed this in the back seam of the sleaves, it was clearly seen, that the embroidery was not made on the fabric but appliqued on top of the back seam. There was a beautifull catalog to the exhibition wich i baught off cause, and i think i have to buy some more to my friends. What i learned from this exhibition watching such a large pannier is, that it is narrower diagonally than you realise, and i think also it was much more flexible, than you really would expect. They should have contakted me, then i could have shown them a much better pannier, it was such a shame. Bjarne Leif og Bjarne Drews www.my-drewscostumes.dk http://home0.inet.tele.dk/drewscph/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: Wal-Mart fabric
I live in NE Ohio, roughly 60 miles south and slightly east of Cleveland. kate - Original Message - From: Catherine Olanich Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 12:30 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: Wal-Mart fabric On Tuesday 10 April 2007 12:05 am, Ailith Mackintosh wrote: So I think the fabric departments in Walmarts in areas where Walmart is the *only* choice are probably quite good; it's in wealthier suburban/urban areas where they're likely to fail the fabric shopper. Not necessarily. :-) The only Wal-Mart in my immediate area that will still carry fabric after this summer is just around the corner from a Jo-Ann's ETC and is in one of the country's fastest growing townships. The area is suburban and is reasonably upscale. I've found lovely stuff at that Wal-Mart - linen, linen blends and other nifty stuff. Most of it was on the dollar tables, too. Interesting. I stand corrected. What part of the country do you live in, if I may ask? And that particular Wal-Mart is just over a half hour's drive from Jo-Ann's corporate headquarters and their accompanying mega-store. Which might help to explain why that particular Walmart carries such good fabric deals. :-) -- Cathy Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] You've got to have the proper amount of disrespect for what you do. -- George Mabry ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] pleated trim question.
To tell the truth, the trim is just a christmas pressent ribbon, but it looks very nice, and i baught yards and yards of it. Its because it has the look of antique gold, and not the shiny man made fiber crap you find in trim stores. Oh gosh its going to be so boring to make all that pleated trim, it has trim all over Bjarne This sounds like a job for power tools! Most of us have seen, used or owned the little 1/4cm pleater (or 1/8th inch) for a standard sewing machine. Those are ok for lightweight ribbons excellent for fine lightweight fabrics. For ribbon, the standard is just too tiny. There must be some sort of pleating machine or sewing machine attachment for pleating in 1cm - 3 cm fan box pleats in grosgrain, satin or velvet face ribbons. They do exist for industrial ribbon manufacturing. How 'bout at the home or small dressmaker's shop scale? Know of one? It would be just the thing. Dreaming of powertools in Silicon Valley, --cin Cynthia Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re: h-costume Digest, Vol 6, Issue 160
My daughter does as authentic as I can convince her to. :-) I even make her jewellry to make sure it all looks right. (except for the tiara in this photo set, she thought she should have a proper tiara befitting a princess. :-) ) Just because it's fun to think Bjarne might get all weak at the knees over the stuff I make just because it's on my little one *grin*, here's my little girl's Christmas concert dress this past winter, based roughly on Bia De Medici and some Disney Princess thrown in to make her giddy. :-) There are proper sleeves to tie onto the puffs, but they were just a little long at the time and were annoying her, so we took them off. http://picasaweb.google.com/49victor/2006ChristmasConcert She has a pretty convincing little Norse kit as well that she likes because she can grub out in it - its all wool and linen so it washes without trouble. Kathy Ermine, a lion rampant tail nowed gules charged on the shoulder with a rose Or barbed, seeded, slipped and leaved vert (Fieldless) On a rose Or barbed vert a lion's head erased gules. It’s never too late to be who you might have been. -George Eliot Tosach eólais imchomarc. - Questioning is the beginning of knowledge. http://www.sengoidelc.com/node/131 There is nothing like a child in period costume. I get weak in my knees, every time i see it. And if i had children, they would have loads of costumes i had made for them. Bjarne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Christian VII's banyan, Was: Elegant courtlife of Frederik V
What is this banyan thing Bjarne? I have only seen it in context of a particular type of cloak. - Original Message - From: Bjarne og Leif Drewsmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 11:32 AM Subject: [h-cost] Elegant courtlife of Frederik V snip I saw Christian VII's banyan, wich was a love affair to me, made in floral brokade, but the flowers was not in colloured threads, in stead the flowers was painted after the fabric had ben wowen. It has a japanese cut, very simple, but have european style with collar and belt and pockets. Belt is sewn to the back and buttons with 2 buttons center front. If i had somewhere to wear such a thing, i would make it! snip Bjarne Leif og Bjarne Drews www.my-drewscostumes.dkhttp://www.my-drewscostumes.dk/ http://home0.inet.tele.dk/drewscph/http://home0.inet.tele.dk/drewscph/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.commailto:h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Christian VII's banyan, Was: Elegant courtlife of Frederik V
Dear Saragrace, I am sure you have seen many portraits with gentlemen wearing a banyan. Its a kind of dressing gown or morning gown. In stead of wearing a full dressed outfit, a man being at home could have visitors and wear a banyan. You usually wore the banyan with your shirt, waistcoat and breeches, but Christian VII's banyan was closed entirely in the front, so he could have worn nothing underneath :-) Usually a cap follwed with the banyan, so the gentleman didnt have to wear a wig, but its missing in this outfit. Then i also looked at portraits, thoaght that this time i would exhamine very closely, a disgussion we have had on an 18th century list i am on, if men wore makeup! I still believe they used makeup, such pale skin and such rose colloured cheaks and lips, i am still convinsed after i studyed the portraits of the kings. Its the german lummieres members, they dont dare to wear makeup, and they therefore hold to the fact that men didnt wear makeup in 18th century, but they did PERIOD Bjarne - Original Message - From: Saragrace Knauf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 9:25 PM Subject: [h-cost] Christian VII's banyan,Was: Elegant courtlife of Frederik V What is this banyan thing Bjarne? I have only seen it in context of a particular type of cloak. - Original Message - From: Bjarne og Leif Drewsmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 11:32 AM Subject: [h-cost] Elegant courtlife of Frederik V snip I saw Christian VII's banyan, wich was a love affair to me, made in floral brokade, but the flowers was not in colloured threads, in stead the flowers was painted after the fabric had ben wowen. It has a japanese cut, very simple, but have european style with collar and belt and pockets. Belt is sewn to the back and buttons with 2 buttons center front. If i had somewhere to wear such a thing, i would make it! snip Bjarne Leif og Bjarne Drews www.my-drewscostumes.dkhttp://www.my-drewscostumes.dk/ http://home0.inet.tele.dk/drewscph/http://home0.inet.tele.dk/drewscph/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.commailto:h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: Wal-Mart fabric
On of our local fabric mavens just posted (sorry, north texas news) that there were 12 north texas wal-marts doing a huge sale this weekend on fabric. The speculation is that this may be nation wide and that it is the precursor to the shutting down of these areas. I.E. what is sold will not be replaced. Check to see if your local Wal-Mart is having this sale this weekend. Chiara - Original Message - From: Ailith Mackintosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: Wal-Mart fabric I live in NE Ohio, roughly 60 miles south and slightly east of Cleveland. kate - Original Message - From: Catherine Olanich Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 12:30 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: Wal-Mart fabric On Tuesday 10 April 2007 12:05 am, Ailith Mackintosh wrote: So I think the fabric departments in Walmarts in areas where Walmart is the *only* choice are probably quite good; it's in wealthier suburban/urban areas where they're likely to fail the fabric shopper. Not necessarily. :-) The only Wal-Mart in my immediate area that will still carry fabric after this summer is just around the corner from a Jo-Ann's ETC and is in one of the country's fastest growing townships. The area is suburban and is reasonably upscale. I've found lovely stuff at that Wal-Mart - linen, linen blends and other nifty stuff. Most of it was on the dollar tables, too. Interesting. I stand corrected. What part of the country do you live in, if I may ask? And that particular Wal-Mart is just over a half hour's drive from Jo-Ann's corporate headquarters and their accompanying mega-store. Which might help to explain why that particular Walmart carries such good fabric deals. :-) -- Cathy Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] You've got to have the proper amount of disrespect for what you do. -- George Mabry ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Christian VII's banyan, /Frederik V/now men in makeup
At 20:39 10/04/2007, you wrote: Dear Saragrace, I am sure you have seen many portraits with gentlemen wearing a banyan. Its a kind of dressing gown or morning gown. In stead of wearing a full dressed outfit, a man being at home could have visitors and wear a banyan. You usually wore the banyan with your shirt, waistcoat and breeches, but Christian VII's banyan was closed entirely in the front, so he could have worn nothing underneath :-) Usually a cap follwed with the banyan, so the gentleman didnt have to wear a wig, but its missing in this outfit. Then i also looked at portraits, thoaght that this time i would exhamine very closely, a disgussion we have had on an 18th century list i am on, if men wore makeup! I still believe they used makeup, such pale skin and such rose colloured cheaks and lips, i am still convinsed after i studyed the portraits of the kings. Its the german lummieres members, they dont dare to wear makeup, and they therefore hold to the fact that men didnt wear makeup in 18th century, but they did PERIOD Bjarne Bjarne Fashions in Makeup by Richard Corson, and The Art of Beauty by Sally Pointer, both state that men wore rouge, British dandies who affected the extremes of Continental fashion were known to take as much time and care over their toilette as their female counterparts. (Pointer using James Boswell - and others - as a source.) Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Christian VII's banyan, Was: Elegant courtlife of Frederik V
In a message dated 4/10/2007 3:40:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Its the german lummieres members, they dont dare to wear makeup, and they therefore hold to the fact that men didnt wear makeup in 18th century, but they did PERIOD Of course they did! I'm sure a farmer in the fields didn't, but a man at court would not have been looked at twice [unless he was very handsome ;-)] in makeup and perfumed powder. Remember the gambling scenes in Barry Lyndon filmed under real candle light? Beautiful!... with men and women made up and powdered...wigs and faces. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] pleated trim question.
When I make box pleats, where the pleats touch at the sides, I do it three times the length I need. If you make a drawing, you will see that every pleat has 3 layers: _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ /_ _ _\ /_ _ _\ (hope this comes through correctly) Sharon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bjarne og Leif Drews Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 1:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] pleated trim question. I am a little unsertain how i should cut the panels for the trims on this dress i am making: http://www.my-drewscostumes.dk/sofie3.htm I want to make small box pleats, but i wondered if the trim should be cut in the height or could i just cut it out in the breath? Sorry if i misspelled the words. Jean Hunniset says that its not nescesary to cut that much fabric for trim. She says 11/2 or 2 times the lengt, but i think i should use at least 3 times the lenght. I have plenty of fabric for the dress, so i dont have to be carefull. I am using a little tiny gold trim in the edge, wich is wired, so its easy to make the pleats. What would your suggestions be? Thanks for any answers. Bjarne Leif og Bjarne Drews www.my-drewscostumes.dk http://home0.inet.tele.dk/drewscph/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Re: h-costume Digest, Vol 6, Issue 160
I love the sleeves. How did you do that? Sharon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kathy Page Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 11:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] Re: h-costume Digest, Vol 6, Issue 160 My daughter does as authentic as I can convince her to. :-) I even make her jewellry to make sure it all looks right. (except for the tiara in this photo set, she thought she should have a proper tiara befitting a princess. :-) ) Just because it's fun to think Bjarne might get all weak at the knees over the stuff I make just because it's on my little one *grin*, here's my little girl's Christmas concert dress this past winter, based roughly on Bia De Medici and some Disney Princess thrown in to make her giddy. :-) There are proper sleeves to tie onto the puffs, but they were just a little long at the time and were annoying her, so we took them off. http://picasaweb.google.com/49victor/2006ChristmasConcert She has a pretty convincing little Norse kit as well that she likes because she can grub out in it - its all wool and linen so it washes without trouble. Kathy Ermine, a lion rampant tail nowed gules charged on the shoulder with a rose Or barbed, seeded, slipped and leaved vert (Fieldless) On a rose Or barbed vert a lion's head erased gules. Its never too late to be who you might have been. -George Eliot Tosach eólais imchomarc. - Questioning is the beginning of knowledge. http://www.sengoidelc.com/node/131 There is nothing like a child in period costume. I get weak in my knees, every time i see it. And if i had children, they would have loads of costumes i had made for them. Bjarne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Christian VII's banyan, /Frederik V/now men in makeup
Thanks a lot Suzi, Its also because i bike a lot every day at my job, getting arround to my clients, and gets quite tanned in the face, wich doesnt match reenacting 18th century. But i wondered what they used in their faces for makeup, powder alone, would not hold very long. I use a theater stick, wich i take out in a sponge, and adds this to my skin, then i use a powder, on top rouge and sometimes a black mouche. Colonial Williamsburg has the worlds most wonderfull white powder wich is perfumed, i wished they made a deodorant with that perfume, its heavenly! I dont use lipstick. In september i am going to a 2 days event in Bayreuth. Having a danse soiré in the princess house friday evening, a picknick to the nearby castle garden, saturday and in the evening we hired the prince suites in the old baroque theater, hearing Purcels King Arthur. I just thoaght it would be nice, if all the gentlemen would dare to wear makeup that evening. When i get home from this, ill post you a lot of pictures to see. And i am preparing to update my costumes for this event. I just finished a jacket, wich ill wear to the yellow embroidered waistcoat, this i would use for the picknic. then the Tzar Allexander suit for the opera, i have finished the waistcoat with the silver spangels. The danse soiré ill wear my light blue satin suit with the silver bobbin lace. My trunk is going to be quite heavy.. Bjarne - Original Message - From: Suzi Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 9:58 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Christian VII's banyan, /Frederik V/now men in makeup At 20:39 10/04/2007, you wrote: Dear Saragrace, I am sure you have seen many portraits with gentlemen wearing a banyan. Its a kind of dressing gown or morning gown. In stead of wearing a full dressed outfit, a man being at home could have visitors and wear a banyan. You usually wore the banyan with your shirt, waistcoat and breeches, but Christian VII's banyan was closed entirely in the front, so he could have worn nothing underneath :-) Usually a cap follwed with the banyan, so the gentleman didnt have to wear a wig, but its missing in this outfit. Then i also looked at portraits, thoaght that this time i would exhamine very closely, a disgussion we have had on an 18th century list i am on, if men wore makeup! I still believe they used makeup, such pale skin and such rose colloured cheaks and lips, i am still convinsed after i studyed the portraits of the kings. Its the german lummieres members, they dont dare to wear makeup, and they therefore hold to the fact that men didnt wear makeup in 18th century, but they did PERIOD Bjarne Bjarne Fashions in Makeup by Richard Corson, and The Art of Beauty by Sally Pointer, both state that men wore rouge, British dandies who affected the extremes of Continental fashion were known to take as much time and care over their toilette as their female counterparts. (Pointer using James Boswell - and others - as a source.) Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: h-costume Digest, Vol 6, Issue 160
Thanks for posting Kathy. She is very sweat in her fine costume. I remembered one of my studyers, who went to the design school same time as me, she made a knitted jacket, in machine knit, where she also plaited the long sleaves like you did with the puffed sleaves. It looked so elegant. Took her hours to make, as i remember. Bjarne - Original Message - From: Kathy Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 8:58 PM Subject: [h-cost] Re: h-costume Digest, Vol 6, Issue 160 My daughter does as authentic as I can convince her to. :-) I even make her jewellry to make sure it all looks right. (except for the tiara in this photo set, she thought she should have a proper tiara befitting a princess. :-) ) Just because it's fun to think Bjarne might get all weak at the knees over the stuff I make just because it's on my little one *grin*, here's my little girl's Christmas concert dress this past winter, based roughly on Bia De Medici and some Disney Princess thrown in to make her giddy. :-) There are proper sleeves to tie onto the puffs, but they were just a little long at the time and were annoying her, so we took them off. http://picasaweb.google.com/49victor/2006ChristmasConcert She has a pretty convincing little Norse kit as well that she likes because she can grub out in it - its all wool and linen so it washes without trouble. Kathy Ermine, a lion rampant tail nowed gules charged on the shoulder with a rose Or barbed, seeded, slipped and leaved vert (Fieldless) On a rose Or barbed vert a lion's head erased gules. It’s never too late to be who you might have been. -George Eliot Tosach eólais imchomarc. - Questioning is the beginning of knowledge. http://www.sengoidelc.com/node/131 There is nothing like a child in period costume. I get weak in my knees, every time i see it. And if i had children, they would have loads of costumes i had made for them. Bjarne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Christian VII's banyan, /Frederik V/now men in makeup
I use a water based makeup, which I find is less heavy on the skin, plus it washes off with water. Have you ever used this? Sharon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bjarne og Leif Drews Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 2:26 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Christian VII's banyan, /Frederik V/now men in makeup Thanks a lot Suzi, Its also because i bike a lot every day at my job, getting arround to my clients, and gets quite tanned in the face, wich doesnt match reenacting 18th century. But i wondered what they used in their faces for makeup, powder alone, would not hold very long. I use a theater stick, wich i take out in a sponge, and adds this to my skin, then i use a powder, on top rouge and sometimes a black mouche. Colonial Williamsburg has the worlds most wonderfull white powder wich is perfumed, i wished they made a deodorant with that perfume, its heavenly! I dont use lipstick. In september i am going to a 2 days event in Bayreuth. Having a danse soiré in the princess house friday evening, a picknick to the nearby castle garden, saturday and in the evening we hired the prince suites in the old baroque theater, hearing Purcels King Arthur. I just thoaght it would be nice, if all the gentlemen would dare to wear makeup that evening. When i get home from this, ill post you a lot of pictures to see. And i am preparing to update my costumes for this event. I just finished a jacket, wich ill wear to the yellow embroidered waistcoat, this i would use for the picknic. then the Tzar Allexander suit for the opera, i have finished the waistcoat with the silver spangels. The danse soiré ill wear my light blue satin suit with the silver bobbin lace. My trunk is going to be quite heavy.. Bjarne - Original Message - From: Suzi Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 9:58 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Christian VII's banyan, /Frederik V/now men in makeup At 20:39 10/04/2007, you wrote: Dear Saragrace, I am sure you have seen many portraits with gentlemen wearing a banyan. Its a kind of dressing gown or morning gown. In stead of wearing a full dressed outfit, a man being at home could have visitors and wear a banyan. You usually wore the banyan with your shirt, waistcoat and breeches, but Christian VII's banyan was closed entirely in the front, so he could have worn nothing underneath :-) Usually a cap follwed with the banyan, so the gentleman didnt have to wear a wig, but its missing in this outfit. Then i also looked at portraits, thoaght that this time i would exhamine very closely, a disgussion we have had on an 18th century list i am on, if men wore makeup! I still believe they used makeup, such pale skin and such rose colloured cheaks and lips, i am still convinsed after i studyed the portraits of the kings. Its the german lummieres members, they dont dare to wear makeup, and they therefore hold to the fact that men didnt wear makeup in 18th century, but they did PERIOD Bjarne Bjarne Fashions in Makeup by Richard Corson, and The Art of Beauty by Sally Pointer, both state that men wore rouge, British dandies who affected the extremes of Continental fashion were known to take as much time and care over their toilette as their female counterparts. (Pointer using James Boswell - and others - as a source.) Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Elegant courtlife of Frederik V
In a message dated 4/10/2007 2:32:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There was a beautifull catalog to the exhibition wich i baught off cause, and i think i have to buy some more to my friends. Can we get one? Not from you...but the museum or something... ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Christian VII's banyan, /Frederik V/now men in makeup
I and my actors use that too. Stein's theatrical makeup used to (probably still does, but I bought mine some time ago--I don't get to act much and so it has lasted a long time!) make a very nice water- base pancake foundation, and a lot of the foundation makeup now being sold in cosmetics shops for ordinary use not unlike that. The Stein's was a solid that you wet with water and then applied with a sponge; this later commercial makeup is more like a cream that goes on with a sponge and dries like a cool powder. It stays cool on the face, which is a BIG advantage over the greasepaint (the theater stick). It also holds other applied makeup such as rouge, eye shadow, eye liner, etc., very well. And yes, comes off with water instead of cold cream. You can get it in a lot of shades including very pale. --Ruth Anne Baumgartner scholar gypsy and amateur costumer On Apr 10, 2007, at 5:37 PM, Sharon Collier wrote: I use a water based makeup, which I find is less heavy on the skin, plus it washes off with water. Have you ever used this? Sharon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:h-costume- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bjarne og Leif Drews Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 2:26 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Christian VII's banyan, /Frederik V/now men in makeup Thanks a lot Suzi, Its also because i bike a lot every day at my job, getting arround to my clients, and gets quite tanned in the face, wich doesnt match reenacting 18th century. But i wondered what they used in their faces for makeup, powder alone, would not hold very long. I use a theater stick, wich i take out in a sponge, and adds this to my skin, then i use a powder, on top rouge and sometimes a black mouche. Colonial Williamsburg has the worlds most wonderfull white powder wich is perfumed, i wished they made a deodorant with that perfume, its heavenly! I dont use lipstick. In september i am going to a 2 days event in Bayreuth. Having a danse soiré in the princess house friday evening, a picknick to the nearby castle garden, saturday and in the evening we hired the prince suites in the old baroque theater, hearing Purcels King Arthur. I just thoaght it would be nice, if all the gentlemen would dare to wear makeup that evening. When i get home from this, ill post you a lot of pictures to see. And i am preparing to update my costumes for this event. I just finished a jacket, wich ill wear to the yellow embroidered waistcoat, this i would use for the picknic. then the Tzar Allexander suit for the opera, i have finished the waistcoat with the silver spangels. The danse soiré ill wear my light blue satin suit with the silver bobbin lace. My trunk is going to be quite heavy.. Bjarne - Original Message - From: Suzi Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 9:58 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Christian VII's banyan, /Frederik V/now men in makeup At 20:39 10/04/2007, you wrote: Dear Saragrace, I am sure you have seen many portraits with gentlemen wearing a banyan. Its a kind of dressing gown or morning gown. In stead of wearing a full dressed outfit, a man being at home could have visitors and wear a banyan. You usually wore the banyan with your shirt, waistcoat and breeches, but Christian VII's banyan was closed entirely in the front, so he could have worn nothing underneath :-) Usually a cap follwed with the banyan, so the gentleman didnt have to wear a wig, but its missing in this outfit. Then i also looked at portraits, thoaght that this time i would exhamine very closely, a disgussion we have had on an 18th century list i am on, if men wore makeup! I still believe they used makeup, such pale skin and such rose colloured cheaks and lips, i am still convinsed after i studyed the portraits of the kings. Its the german lummieres members, they dont dare to wear makeup, and they therefore hold to the fact that men didnt wear makeup in 18th century, but they did PERIOD Bjarne Bjarne Fashions in Makeup by Richard Corson, and The Art of Beauty by Sally Pointer, both state that men wore rouge, British dandies who affected the extremes of Continental fashion were known to take as much time and care over their toilette as their female counterparts. (Pointer using James Boswell - and others - as a source.) Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___
RE: [h-cost] Movie influences on fashion - shoes
American Girl had clothes for real girls, just like the doll clothes. I don't know if they still do, though. My daughter is 21 now. She wants better costumes. AND she even took a sewing class, so I help now, instead of having to do the whole thing! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sue Clemenger Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 7:03 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Movie influences on fashion - shoes That's entirely possible--it had the look of a really good costume--nice design, and whoever sewed it did a nice job as well (and fabric choice--some sort of crisp cotton in a non-inappropriate color). I'm not really familiar with what's available, commercially, for children, though, so I couldn't say for sure. I've heard of the whole American Girl thing (dolls and books and all), but that's about it. --Sue - Original Message - From: Sharon Collier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Historical Costume' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 9:43 PM Subject: RE: [h-cost] Movie influences on fashion - shoes Was she perhaps wearing an American Girl dress, Felicity reproduction? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sue Clemenger Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 6:40 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Movie influences on fashion - shoes Speaking of historical influences, when I was at brunch with friends this past Sunday, we saw the cutest little girl (7 or 8), wearing the most adorable child's version of an 18th century gown, complete with petticoat. The rest of the family was in ordinary good clothes, and she was in her best dress. (Nicely done, too, from what I can tell without being an expert in the time) --Sue ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Christian VII's banyan, /Frederik V/now men in makeup
On Apr 10, 2007, at 2:37 PM, Sharon Collier wrote: I use a water based makeup, which I find is less heavy on the skin, plus it washes off with water. Have you ever used this? Sharon I love the Grimas water-based face paint from the Netherlands (I mail-order it from a shop in the UK). It's very versatile, and very sturdy. Best of all, jump in the shower and a bit of soap or shampoo takes it off completely. andy ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Christian VII's banyan, /Frederik V/now men in makeup
At 23:19 10/04/2007, you wrote: On Apr 10, 2007, at 2:37 PM, Sharon Collier wrote: I use a water based makeup, which I find is less heavy on the skin, plus it washes off with water. Have you ever used this? Sharon I love the Grimas water-based face paint from the Netherlands (I mail-order it from a shop in the UK). It's very versatile, and very sturdy. Best of all, jump in the shower and a bit of soap or shampoo takes it off completely. andy Andy Is that Fox's Makeup shop? I used Leichner for Kryolan for TV shoots, but nowadays most makeup girls use modern makeup for everyday clothes, and Dermablend for some more complicated blending. It's a while since I bought anything so need to update my box. Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Christian VII's banyan, /Frederik V/now men in makeup
On Apr 10, 2007, at 4:32 PM, Suzi Clarke wrote: At 23:19 10/04/2007, you wrote: On Apr 10, 2007, at 2:37 PM, Sharon Collier wrote: I use a water based makeup, which I find is less heavy on the skin, plus it washes off with water. Have you ever used this? Sharon I love the Grimas water-based face paint from the Netherlands (I mail-order it from a shop in the UK). It's very versatile, and very sturdy. Best of all, jump in the shower and a bit of soap or shampoo takes it off completely. andy Andy Is that Fox's Makeup shop? 1st Night in Milton Keynes. They've got an online shop at http:// www.showmakeup.co.uk/. They were recommended to me by the Grimas wholesaler. They've got the whole line (water and grease). Only thing Grimas makes that's crap is their stage blood; the rest is great. andy ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: Wal-Mart fabric
On Tuesday 10 April 2007 2:32 pm, Ailith Mackintosh wrote: I live in NE Ohio, roughly 60 miles south and slightly east of Cleveland. Interesting. Thanks! -- Cathy Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] You've got to have the proper amount of disrespect for what you do. -- George Mabry ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost]CostumeCon, now OT librarian in-jokes
I've obviously been attending the *wrong* conferences! [Although the poster committee for Technical Services did place a Warrior Librarians poster in the hall outside my door] Mary, I love your tag line. Suzanne LeSar Acquisitions Coordinator Parks Library, Iowa State University On Apr 10, 2007, at 1:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Suzanne said:... and if I ever go to another CostumeCon, I'll be sure to bring Conan the Librarian along, too! (Where else could I get away with that?) You could do it at any library conference in North America, believe me, we'd adore it! Mary Periodicals Department Stark County District Library 715 Market Ave. N. Canton, Ohio 44702-1018 (330)452-0665 x 5750 [EMAIL PROTECTED] We don't have issues... we have subscriptions. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] pleated trim question.
For ribbon, the standard is just too tiny. There must be some sort of pleating machine or sewing machine attachment for pleating in 1cm - 3 cm fan box pleats in grosgrain, satin or velvet face ribbons. They do exist for industrial ribbon manufacturing. How 'bout at the home or small dressmaker's shop scale? Know of one? It would be just the thing. Dreaming of powertools in Silicon Valley, Why, yes! I have one! Let me find a picture. Here! What it looks like and how to use it! http://vintagesewing.info/1920s/26-fcm/fcm-07.html It's seriously cool. Emma http://anvil.unl.edu/emma http://HelixHandworks.etsy.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] pleated trim question.
On Apr 10, 2007, at 6:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For ribbon, the standard is just too tiny. There must be some sort of pleating machine or sewing machine attachment for pleating in 1cm - 3 cm fan box pleats in grosgrain, satin or velvet face ribbons. They do exist for industrial ribbon manufacturing. How 'bout at the home or small dressmaker's shop scale? Know of one? It would be just the thing. Dreaming of powertools in Silicon Valley, Why, yes! I have one! Let me find a picture. Here! What it looks like and how to use it! http://vintagesewing.info/1920s/26-fcm/fcm-07.html I've got a ruffler foot just like that. http://www.bovil.com/index.php? option=com_gallery2Itemid=47g2_itemId=2624 It can do maybe 1cm ruffles. Nothing big. For serious ruffles, you want a Johnson Ruffler. http://www.johnsonrufflingmachines.com/ Neither, though, really creates pleats, and neither is great on heavy- ish material. Every ruffler foot I've seen would choke on grosgrain ribbon, and a Johnson Ruffler would probably need a reinforced ruffler arm. andy ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Eyelets or Buttons-
Anyone know for sure if these are eyelets or buttons? Is there a cord running through the center holes or is there a cord wrapped around the button? http://www.wga.hu/art/r/raphael/2firenze/1/31doni2.jpghttp://www.wga.hu/art/r/raphael/2firenze/1/31doni2.jpg ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] pleated trim question.
Neither, though, really creates pleats, and neither is great on heavy- ish material. Every ruffler foot I've seen would choke on grosgrain ribbon, and a Johnson Ruffler would probably need a reinforced ruffler arm. I used mine to pleat a medium-weight damask for a bed ruffle. Just straight knife pleats, but nice and even, 1/2 deep. I don't think mine would have a problem with grosgrain. But it's an elderly Singer attachment, designed for elderly Singer machines that can sew through darn near anything. Emma http://anvil.unl.edu/emma http://HelixHandworks.etsy.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Christian VII's banyan, /Frederik V/ now men in makeup
For stage lighting I tell my danseurs (www.danselibre.org) to hit the theatrical makeup dept. Most of our performances dont require that intense coloring - we're in normally lit ballrooms public spaces or even a gym at Stanford, so I send them to the mall to find workout makeup. Clinique has good stuff, relatively comedeogenic (no zits!) and stays in place for a 4 hour dance rehearsal, performance or an evening of dancing. I suspect most of the women dont even bother with theatrical anymore. We just use theatrical application rules with workout fashion makeup. (I think the guys do theatrical... so they dont have to visit the Maybeline Revlon counters. grin) We're sticking to the 19th early 20th century fashions. I've never tried to do 18th c makeup styles with fashion makeup. Curious to hear how the experiments go, --cin Cynthia Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] I and my actors use that too. Stein's theatrical makeup used to (probably still does, but I bought mine some time ago--I don't get to act much and so it has lasted a long time!) make a very nice water- base pancake foundation, and a lot of the foundation makeup now being sold in cosmetics shops for ordinary use not unlike that. The Stein's was a solid that you wet with water and then applied with a sponge; this later commercial makeup is more like a cream that goes on with a sponge and dries like a cool powder. It stays cool on the face, which is a BIG advantage over the greasepaint (the theater stick). It also holds other applied makeup such as rouge, eye shadow, eye liner, etc., very well. And yes, comes off with water instead of cold cream. You can get it in a lot of shades including very pale. --Ruth Anne Baumgartner scholar gypsy and amateur costumer ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Eyelets or Buttons-
In a message dated 4/10/2007 9:45:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyone know for sure if these are eyelets or buttons? Is there a cord running through the center holes or is there a cord wrapped around the button? * Looks like fancy eyelets with the cord running thru the center. And the gown looks like watered silk. What a lovely painting. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost]CostumeCon, now OT librarian in-jokes
I must be at the wrong conferences too. Although, last year I did get to talk about what the well dressed librarian would have worn in 1906 as a part of a centennial celebration for the American Association of Law Libraries. My friends were quite amused that I managed to talk about costumes at a law library conference. Beth Chamberlain Head of Technical Services Gould Law Library, Touro Law Center Central Islip, NY -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Suzanne Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 8:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost]CostumeCon, now OT librarian in-jokes I've obviously been attending the *wrong* conferences! [Although the poster committee for Technical Services did place a Warrior Librarians poster in the hall outside my door] Mary, I love your tag line. Suzanne LeSar Acquisitions Coordinator Parks Library, Iowa State University On Apr 10, 2007, at 1:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Suzanne said:... and if I ever go to another CostumeCon, I'll be sure to bring Conan the Librarian along, too! (Where else could I get away with that?) You could do it at any library conference in North America, believe me, we'd adore it! Mary Periodicals Department Stark County District Library 715 Market Ave. N. Canton, Ohio 44702-1018 (330)452-0665 x 5750 [EMAIL PROTECTED] We don't have issues... we have subscriptions. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Eyelets or Buttons-
Perhap this will help http://realmofvenus.renaissanceitaly.net/yourgarb/2005/Anea2005.htm You can enlarge this picture a bit http://realmofvenus.renaissanceitaly.net/yourgarb/2005/raphael1506.jpg or you can enlarge this one real well http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e6/Raffael_036.jpg De -Original Message- Anyone know for sure if these are eyelets or buttons? Is there a cord running through the center holes or is there a cord wrapped around the button? http://www.wga.hu/art/r/raphael/2firenze/1/31doni2.jpg ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
