Käthe Barrows wrote:
The Nazis used pink triangles for homosexuals in camps. See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_triangle and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:German_concentration_camp_chart_of_prisoner_markings.jpg
Yes, but this is 20th century, as I said in my original post. The
Lynn Downward wrote:
Which came first, the pink outfit or the idea that men in the arts are often
homosexual?
Well, since pink wasn't a considered a girl's colour until into the
20th century, I would expect that pink for music predates any
associations of pink with gay people. The academic
The Nazis used pink triangles for homosexuals in camps. See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_triangle and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:German_concentration_camp_chart_of_prisoner_markings.jpg
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Susan Carroll-Clark
scarrollcl...@gmail.com wrote:
Lynn
On Apr 18, 2009, at 4:28 PM, Kate Pinner wrote:
Some British institutions use the Tudor round cap in velvet for
PhDs, so I
made mine in plain black wool with no tassel (since I'm a mere MFA).
Melanie Schuessler
Eastern Michigan University
I'm an MFA, too, but Yale figured that since it
Susan Farmer wrote:
Has anybody ever run across a pattern for contemporary Academic Hoods
(snip)
This link takes you to an advertisement for a new little book on the
academic dress of Oxford University:-
http://www.ox.ac.uk/media/news_stories/2009/090403.html
There is a description of the
Which came first, the pink outfit or the idea that men in the arts are often
homosexual?
Please don't send me any angry messages about me being a homophone. I ask
flippantly and I have almost as many gay friends as straight friends.
LynnD in the San Francisco Bay Area
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at
Quoting Linda Walton linda.wal...@dsl.pipex.com:
Susan Farmer wrote:
Has anybody ever run across a pattern for contemporary Academic Hoods (snip)
This link takes you to an advertisement for a new little book on the
academic dress of Oxford University:-
Lynn Downward wrote:
Please don't send me any angry messages about me being a homophone
Hmm. Lynn, Linn, Lynne, Lin ... sounds like a homophone to me.
(g,d,r)
--Robin
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Not contemporary, 1890s, but more recent than some of the examples in this
great discussion. ;)
At the Costumer's Manifesto site, the Cutter's Practical Guide:
http://www.costumes.org/HISTORY/100pages/1893to1898cuttersguide.htm
Look under one of the Parts 9 for a section which includes hoods
:57 AM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] possibly OT -- Academic Hoods
If some of the full-time members of the department of the school nearest to
me weren't vindictive snobs I could! Actually our new Writing Program
Director is encouraging those of us who teach in that program to go
In a message dated 4/17/2009 9:30:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
rmitch...@staff.washjeff.edu writes:
My husband's favorite tale is one of showing up at the stated bookstore to
sing up for the rental gown at xxxfee and the salesman took him aside and
said I don't want to disuade you from
Quoting annbw...@aol.com:
In a message dated 4/17/2009 9:30:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
rmitch...@staff.washjeff.edu writes:
My husband's favorite tale is one of showing up at the stated bookstore to
sing up for the rental gown at xxxfee and the salesman took him aside and
said I don't
In a message dated 4/15/2009 5:40:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
sha...@collierfam.com writes:
Don't use pleating tape, the pleats end up being only about 1/2
deep, so
there are a lot of them to sew. And the tape adds a lot of bulk.
Instead
make a facing with 1/4 gingham. That way you can
Some British institutions use the Tudor round cap in velvet for PhDs, so I
made mine in plain black wool with no tassel (since I'm a mere MFA).
Melanie Schuessler
Eastern Michigan University
I'm an MFA, too, but Yale figured that since it was a 3 Year terminal
degree, we have the right to
For Ph.D. hoods, at least in the U.S., the width of the velvet tells
the degree. The color of the velvet tells the discipline. The lining
of the hood tells the institution. Some institutions, such as
Rutgers, Columbia, Harvard, Yale, and the University of Rochester,
also have official robe
In a message dated 4/17/2009 7:20:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
ruthan...@mindspring.com writes:
I don't get
invited to participate in graduation, so things may have changed over
the last decade or so.
Maybe you wouldn't want to, but couldn't you go anyway? I was just a
part-time
On Apr 17, 2009, at 7:21 AM, Ruth Anne Baumgartner wrote:
Master's hoods have narrower bands the color of which, I believe,
tells only the type of Master's (M.A., M.S., etc.), and a lining in
the institution's colors.
The velvet bands on Master's hoods are color-coded by discipline.
The
Message-
From: Melanie Schuessler mela...@faucet.net
To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com
Sent: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 8:45 am
Subject: Re: [h-cost] possibly OT -- Academic Hoods
On Apr 17, 2009, at 7:21 AM, Ruth Anne Baumgartner wrote:?
?
Master's hoods have narrower bands the color of which, I
Every time I walk at commencement I see full-professor PhDs who have
no idea how to wear their hoods. As a professional costumer, my
strong urge is to go around fixing their costumes, but since I don't
know most of them, I restrain myself!
That's probably because
. factor...
--Ruth Anne
-Original Message-
From: annbw...@aol.com
Sent: Apr 17, 2009 8:28 AM
To: h-cost...@indra.com
Subject: Re: [h-cost] possibly OT -- Academic Hoods
In a message dated 4/17/2009 7:20:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
ruthan...@mindspring.com writes:
I don't get
-Original Message-
From: Land of Oz lando...@netins.net
Sent: Apr 17, 2009 10:28 AM
To: 'Historical Costume' h-cost...@indra.com
Subject: Re: [h-cost] possibly OT -- Academic Hoods
Every time I walk at commencement I see full-professor PhDs who have
no idea how to wear their hoods
, it should become second nature.
Ann Wass
-Original Message-
From: ruthan...@mindspring.com
To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com
Sent: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 12:03 pm
Subject: Re: [h-cost] possibly OT -- Academic Hoods
You also have to know, as Harriet Vane comments in Dorothy L. Sayers
But if one did it once or twice a year, it should become second nature.
I knew someone with a PhD in Math from MIT. He wanted me to sew him a robe,
but I had no idea what it should really officially look like so I turned
down the job. He ended up buying one. It was sleazy shiny polyester
Wow, how organised! In the UK, every institution makes up its own
colour scheme. First degree robes are generally black, but there is no
correlation between the hood colours for the same discipline from one
university to another, and PhD robes are all different. I think there
is some
Land of Oz wrote:
That's probably because very few people know, and when you get set up for
graduation, no
one tells you any of this stuff. I wish I had known some of this stuff when I
got my
Master's degree. All they tell you is to go to the bookstore and pick up a
robe. Then,
you might
My husband's favorite tale is one of showing up at the stated bookstore to sing
up for the rental gown at xxxfee and the salesman took him aside and said I
don't want to disuade you from getting a new one, but if you step over here,
you might change your mind. (The old bate and switch) The
Yes, the hat I described is the floppy one...and now seems to be the major
style of Phds at WJ, Pa.
After reading some of the other replies, it would appear that the color scheme
is not totally understood. Math and all of the other disciplines have a
traditional color so that if you are
Searching on Google Image under academic hood brought up many
interesting pages, including the differences in size and complexity
between Master's, Doctorate, etc. levels.
Also some amusing photos of people actually trying to wear them as hoods
(on a lark) and how foolish the hoods look.)
] possibly OT -- Academic Hoods
Yes, the hat I described is the floppy one...and now seems to be the major
style
of Phds at WJ, Pa.
After reading some of the other replies, it would appear that the color scheme
is not totally understood. Math and all of the other disciplines have
Susan Farmer wrote:
Quoting Ruth Anne Baumgartner ruthan...@mindspring.com:
I've read everyone's helpful replies to this, but what I'd say is: Go
ahead and make 13th-century garb and wear it.
There is a pattern in Alcega for a gown for a learned man -- but
what would a 12th century gown
Now, THAT sounds comfortable!
--Ruth Anne Baumgartner
On Apr 16, 2009, at 7:11 PM, Susan Carroll-Clark wrote:
Susan Farmer wrote:
Quoting Ruth Anne Baumgartner ruthan...@mindspring.com:
I've read everyone's helpful replies to this, but what I'd say
is: Go
ahead and make 13th-century garb
Quoting R Lloyd Mitchell rmitch...@staff.washjeff.edu:
Yes, the hat I described is the floppy one...and now seems to be the
major style of Phds at WJ, Pa.
After reading some of the other replies, it would appear that the
color scheme is not totally understood. Math and all of the other
Quoting Susan Carroll-Clark scarrollcl...@gmail.com:
Susan Farmer wrote:
Quoting Ruth Anne Baumgartner ruthan...@mindspring.com:
I've read everyone's helpful replies to this, but what I'd say is: Go
ahead and make 13th-century garb and wear it.
There is a pattern in Alcega for a gown for a
I want to make me a gown out of either linen or tropical weight wool -- wearing
a black plastic bag in south Georgia in the summer is not my idea of fun! And
I got curious as to hood patterns.?
I had planned to make my own garb, but then got out of academia, so never did.?
I was going to
pattern for an
Oxford don hat. You can get a wonderful gilt tassel from a present
company...which I will identify from my records.
Kathleen
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From: annbw...@aol.com
Sent 4/15/2009 4:49:44 PM
To: h-cost...@indra.com
Subject: Re: [h-cost] possibly OT -- Academic Hoods
I
and you're done!
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From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On
Behalf Of annbw...@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 1:50 PM
To: h-cost...@indra.com
Subject: Re: [h-cost] possibly OT -- Academic Hoods
I want to make me a gown out
I've read everyone's helpful replies to this, but what I'd say is: Go
ahead and make 13th-century garb and wear it. Where I used to teach I
had two colleagues who made their own regalia or had it made--one a
lovely brown robe that looked pretty medieval, and one a standard
robe with a
Quoting annbw...@aol.com:
I had planned to make my own garb, but then got out of academia, so
never did.? I was going to borrow a friend's hood fto make?the
pattern.? I think some of the minister/choir robe patterns on the
market are good for the robe.? They used to sell pleating
Quoting R Lloyd Mitchell rmitch...@staff.washjeff.edu:
I used my husband's hood to make one for my soninlaw. Is yours to
be for the MA or Phd. I would be happy to make up a pattern for
you. First, research the general style (any of Academic garb sites
and find out the proper colors
Quoting Ruth Anne Baumgartner ruthan...@mindspring.com:
I've read everyone's helpful replies to this, but what I'd say is: Go
ahead and make 13th-century garb and wear it.
There is a pattern in Alcega for a gown for a learned man -- but
what would a 12th century gown look like?
Susan
The only academic I saw with an octagonal hat (in olive velvet) as part of her
regalia gradated from a university in Poland--I want to say Warsaw University,
but her page on my college website does not mention the institute where she
earned her PhD.
It's been 25 years since I took a class
Quoting Ann Catelli elvestoor...@yahoo.com:
The only academic I saw with an octagonal hat (in olive velvet) as
part of her regalia gradated from a university in Poland--I want to
say Warsaw University, but her page on my college website does not
mention the institute where she earned
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