ng(waning? whining?) philosophic, I had read about half of
Duncan Watts' Six Degrees recently then put it down to attend to other
things. I'm going to pick it back up now with project context in mind and
see what useful principles might be applicable. The basic "small world"
tenet of highly connected, local networks which are minimally (but
optimally) globally connected seems to have some "legs" here; more on this
later...
Peace
CMR
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ting is bad news bears.
>
> -Zack
>
>
Yeah, given the centralized searchable data repository component, I'm on
board...
CMR
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> A quick note - the decentralized system that is being proposed is NOT peer
> to peer. At the top, at the aggregator, it functions just the same as the
> centralized solution: One database, searchable and acessable by all - ie
> napster.
>
Think I got it; so the "aggregator" functions like the
> > "Granted, the feasibility of an in place, functional and reliable
> > distributed system may well prove the best argument for the
> > centralized option in the end."
>
> Hi CMR,
>
> I'm sorry -- i'm still having trouble figuring out this state
Statement edited for clarity:
"Granted, the feasibility of an in place, functional and reliable
distributed
system may well prove the best argument for the centralized option in the
end."
CMR
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maintained, improved, added...
Mind you I emphasize the above term "abstract" cause I have no idea
precisely how such a system might be designed and implemented; gnutella
based?
Granted, the feasibility of an in place, functional and reliable distributed
system may well prove the
e the DeanSpace theme? I downloaded
and installed but can't get it to take in my test enviro; bluesky and the
others load fine though(?); debug time (where's my boss...)
Thanks
CMR
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ith PS (I last used 5 but got a fresh copy of 7
from work) churn out a test theme or 2; then I'd be totally open to
requests; freebird?
CMR
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h both the needed
resources and skills have generously "kicked-down"; I'm not up on the exact
details of the arrangement so I'll let one of those who are fill in here...
Cheers
CMR
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rsonal
opinion that it's the the persistence of both approaches, in the context of
lateral authority, that will allow for complementary as opposed to
conflictive purposes and thus overall growth. And it could conceivably
increase the chances that the project survives in the event that fickle
fortune frowns upon it's central purpose.
Cheers
CMR
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or and support keeping as much of it as is
feasible independent, decentralized, laterally administered and, yes,
self-organized. I'll do so because I truly believe that's the best path for
the future of the project, myself, for Howard Dean's campaign, and
grassroots movements world-wi
price/features/reliability/support ratio is the dream
Thanks
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> I don't really like deanster myself, but at least we all know what we
> mean :). We'll put up a naming thread later -- but keep coming up
> w/ideas!
This might be a place to eventually revive the ill-fated DeanTeam?
Hey, have a look at this logo I busted out in ps; it'd be placed in a deep
blue header bar "cell', left aligned, so th deep blue'd extend across the
page head; maybe I'll bust out a theme for it as well...
CMR
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I'm for the transition to DeanSpace as well..
CMR
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be made idiot
proof, it should not have to be vegetable proof; the user does have some
responsibility for their own online experience, IMHO.
CMR
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mouth-as-shoe on for size again...
Peace
CMR
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e paragraph should be added to minimize confusion
as to what exactly's being voted on. Shades of the "butterfly ballot"?
Just a thought..
Oh, and Thanks Josh!
CMR
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http://www.deanforamerica.com/
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profundity here-->
> That some people are morons doesn't make being a moron the right thing to
do.
we're agreed on the above point; we just disagree on what's "right" and what
strategy's "moron"ic
Cheers^2
CMR
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realize that this was the
> implication of .com, right"
>
> Yes, attorneys will do stupid things like that in court.
These guys don't seem to have an issue with it:
http://www.johnkerry.com/
http://www.democrats.com/
http://www.ndol.com/
CMR
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reed; conventionally, even among hi traffic non-profits, com would be
grabbed as well so that if all sombody remembers is DeanSpace, they will get
there if they type in any one of the 3 main extensions...
CMR
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org and that's the url then shows in the
address field, then I think it's win/win.
IMHO
CMR
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thing with a .com domain. Just my two cents.
>
>
Sounds like a handle that would appeal more to dubya's crowd to me; as in
"y'all hippie tree-huggers from vermont ain't country!"
IMHO
CMR
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onl preferences/bias, but I've been building web UIs
for public and private outfits for 10 yrs now and these matters are taken
VERY seriously I assure you.
So as the final calls are made for the public site(s), try to get in
grandma's skin(yuk!) for a few and chew it over (my comments, n
'92 Daddy bush tried labeling VP candidate Gore as "Captain Ozone" and
got "Zapped"
CMR
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Availability & Interests
information or click Submit to send your information now" or the like...
Same for each subsequent form page in the "wizard"..
IMHO
CMR
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to serve one campaign or another. They want
>to be able to refer people to tools they've helped envision.
I was tabling, flyering,
and canvassing for causes long before I was a geek, thank
you
Cheers
CMR
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tanding around wondering what to do next. Will it be robust,
generalized and adaptive enough to redefine itself, grow and prosper? Or
will the constraints it "bought" by tying it's fortunes (and helm) to a
(the?) man render it too "specialized" to morph and thus extinct?
hink we ought to
be allowed to discuss the merits of the idea, if any, in order to reach
that consensus.
Thanks
CMR
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tangible "turf" where the organization's code and such
could be sustained and a central "site" could operate if need be.
But, even in this scenario, some hosting space could be always obtained at
that junture and we all could (and will I imagine) talk about what, if
anything,
tangible "turf" where the organization's code and such
could be sustained and a central "site" could operate if need be.
But, even in this scenario, some hosting space could be always obtained at
that junture and we all could (and will I imagine) talk about what, if
anything,
> CMR - we and the campaign would be liable if you did this. If you spend
> more than $2000 towards this including your contributions so far then they
> would loose a suit if someone filed one.
>
Is this a "soft money" issue?
If so, is it if "I" spent mor
> - Node hosting as we had planned looks to be out. We cannot raise our own
> money - if we became a PAC we couldnt coordinate at all with HQ, we would
> become useless. They cannot pay for the hosting unless the sites became
> official. However, it is expected that there will be ISP's willing
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